Re: Mayweather Seeks Delay of Pacquiao Deposition
its really very simple:
pacquiao wants to fight under the commission's rules.
floyd wants to make his own rules for manny and himself to follow.
there is no reason for manny to have to follow those rules.
where's the controversy?
in an attempt to bully manny into agreeing to fight under his made up rules, floyd slandered manny.
manny, having been slandered, decides to sue floyd.
again where's the controversy?
its all very simple...floyd wanted to dictate the terms of the fight which were outside of the sanction bodies rules... then he decided to break the law and slander him in an attempt to shame him into fighting under his made up rules... now manny wants him to justify his slander or face the consequences. (these consequences are law. not made up rules. but law.)
there is no controversy here.
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I agree with Miles, Pac has taken it too far. I don't know why he didn't just take the test and the fight would have been over and done with by now and Mayweather would still be unbeaten.
If someone accuses somebody of something it's up to the accuser to prove it and not up to the accused.
If Mayweathers accusations go unchecked, then it will go on and on. It just happens that they did it to someone who has the financial resources to go on with a lawsuit. I hope this teaches all of those people involve a lesson.
Anyway, Manny already agreed to the drug test but wasn't given the opportunity to prove he's clean because the accuser did not want to fight.
Not in the UK.
But they are not fighting in the UK.
If this had happened in England it would be down to Manny to prove hes not taking steroids and hasnt.
It's in US soil, so the burden of proof is up to the accuser.
I heard a late night radio programme while fishing once, where it was on about American pharmacutical companies refusing to advertise in British health magazines because of the claims they make and the lawsuits that could follow.
But it didnt happen in America. Nothing will come of this lawsuit. Floyd asked Manny to take a test, Manny refused and Floyd said
he wouldnt fight him until he does. Manny should be suing Arum for allowing him to look like a twat;D
Manny agreed to the test but Floyd still wouldn't fight him. What does that say?
See above
Re: Mayweather Seeks Delay of Pacquiao Deposition
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ruthless rocco
its really very simple:
pacquiao wants to fight under the commission's rules.
floyd wants to make his own rules for manny and himself to follow.
there is no reason for manny to have to follow those rules.
where's the controversy?
in an attempt to bully manny into agreeing to fight under his made up rules, floyd slandered manny.
manny, having been slandered, decides to sue floyd.
again where's the controversy?
its all very simple...floyd wanted to dictate the terms of the fight which were outside of the sanction bodies rules... then he decided to break the law and slander him in an attempt to shame him into fighting under his made up rules... now manny wants him to justify his slander or face the consequences. (these consequences are law. not made up rules. but law.)
there is no controversy here.
I agree. That's as simple as it gets.
Re: Mayweather Seeks Delay of Pacquiao Deposition
I hope Manny wins the case and forces Floyd to fight him because he is broke.
Floyd will agree to the fight on the condition he drops this case.
Re: Mayweather Seeks Delay of Pacquiao Deposition
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ruthless rocco
its really very simple:
pacquiao wants to fight under the commission's rules.
floyd wants to make his own rules for manny and himself to follow.
there is no reason for manny to have to follow those rules.there is no controversy here.
Then Floyd gets the bigger piece of the pie, no 50/50. There is no $1,000,000 fine, no catchweight. Bigger ring size, etc. If someone came up with demands it was Pac, Roach, and Arum. Floyd asked for one single thing: olympic style random blood tests, which Floyd is willing to take as well. What's so unfair about that?
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ruthless rocco
its really very simple:
pacquiao wants to fight under the commission's rules.
floyd wants to make his own rules for manny and himself to follow.
there is no reason for manny to have to follow those rules.there is no controversy here.
Then Floyd gets the bigger piece of the pie, no 50/50. There is no $1,000,000 fine, no catchweight. Bigger ring size, etc. If someone came up with demands it was Pac, Roach, and Arum. Floyd asked for one single thing: olympic style random blood tests, which Floyd is willing to take as well. What's so unfair about that?
just because Floyd's demands were not considered doesnt mean Pac's demands are all invalid. Just to show you, each of pac's pre fight demands have valid basis.
1. 50/50 split -- this is just fair since both fighters are on the top of their game and both of them can draw big crowds. We can back this up by facts coming from PPV and gate receipts of their last 2-4 fights. So the demand for the 50-50 split is valid.
2. 1M USD fine for each pound over 147. This demand was put in place because everybody knows what Floyd did when he fought a naturally smaller JMM. The contracted weight was 144, Floyd weigh 147 on weigh in. He just proves everybody that he can screw the weight Limit, he doesnt give a damn for the small fines, but 1M, it make him think twice. the fight is at 147, it was never at a catchweight of some sort.
3. Bigger ring size was not really an issue back then. It was questioned by roach and he sees Floyd plans to dance and run along so a bigger ring will give him extra space to run from pac. Thats all. Its not a showstopper so I guess it would be a problem for pac to agree for a bigger ring.
4. Floyd asked or demanded (lets use the same word for pac and floyd so to be fair) for only one thing and yes that one thing is the random, Olympic style blood test for Him and Pac... It was unprecedented. It was made out from "suspicion". The basis was Roger's theory of a-side meth (the legendary meth that makes your skin bullet proof).
NSAC already made a review on their protocol and they still find the currently implemented rules to be sufficient and valid for all their sponsored sporting event which includes boxing.
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3. Bigger ring size was not really an issue back then. It was questioned by roach and he sees Floyd plans to dance and run along so a bigger ring will give him extra space to run from pac. Thats all. Its not a showstopper so I guess it would be a problem for pac to agree for a bigger ring.
Does anybody know the ring size in the Mayweather-Marquez fight? Is it the same bigger ring size that Mayweather preferred in his fight with Pacquiao?
And shouldn't a smaller ring size be better since this is boxing and not a dance competition?
Btw, excellent post Dench !!!
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Dench
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Chino
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ruthless rocco
its really very simple:
pacquiao wants to fight under the commission's rules.
floyd wants to make his own rules for manny and himself to follow.
there is no reason for manny to have to follow those rules.there is no controversy here.
Then Floyd gets the bigger piece of the pie, no 50/50. There is no $1,000,000 fine, no catchweight. Bigger ring size, etc. If someone came up with demands it was Pac, Roach, and Arum. Floyd asked for one single thing: olympic style random blood tests, which Floyd is willing to take as well. What's so unfair about that?
just because Floyd's demands were not considered doesnt mean Pac's demands are all invalid. Just to show you, each of pac's pre fight demands have valid basis.
1. 50/50 split -- this is just fair since both fighters are on the top of their game and both of them can draw big crowds. We can back this up by facts coming from PPV and gate receipts of their last 2-4 fights. So the demand for the 50-50 split is valid.
2. 1M USD fine for each pound over 147. This demand was put in place because everybody knows what Floyd did when he fought a naturally smaller JMM. The contracted weight was 144, Floyd weigh 147 on weigh in. He just proves everybody that he can screw the weight Limit, he doesnt give a damn for the small fines, but 1M, it make him think twice. the fight is at 147, it was never at a catchweight of some sort.
3. Bigger ring size was not really an issue back then. It was questioned by roach and he sees Floyd plans to dance and run along so a bigger ring will give him extra space to run from pac. Thats all. Its not a showstopper so I guess it would be a problem for pac to agree for a bigger ring.
4. Floyd asked or demanded (lets use the same word for pac and floyd so to be fair) for only one thing and yes that one thing is the random, Olympic style blood test for Him and Pac... It was unprecedented. It was made out from "suspicion". The basis was Roger's theory of a-side meth (the legendary meth that makes your skin bullet proof).
NSAC already made a review on their protocol and they still find the currently implemented rules to be sufficient and valid for all their sponsored sporting event which includes boxing.
Well said. :)
Re: Mayweather Seeks Delay of Pacquiao Deposition
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So much triffling drama...so little fight...:tease: Honestly, who cares
I Can't wait for the next FNF card...
I second that, PBF-Pac PEDs/testing threads are beyond fucking boring..
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I agree with Miles, Pac has taken it too far. I don't know why he didn't just take the test and the fight would have been over and done with by now and Mayweather would still be unbeaten.
If someone accuses somebody of something it's up to the accuser to prove it and not up to the accused.
If Mayweathers accusations go unchecked, then it will go on and on. It just happens that they did it to someone who has the financial resources to go on with a lawsuit. I hope this teaches all of those people involve a lesson.
Anyway, Manny already agreed to the drug test but wasn't given the opportunity to prove he's clean because the accuser did not want to fight.
Not in the UK.
If this had happened in England it would be down to Manny to prove hes not taking steroids and hasnt.
I heard a late night radio programme while fishing once, where it was on about American pharmacutical companies refusing to advertise in British health magazines because of the claims they make and the lawsuits that could follow.
But it didnt happen in America. Nothing will come of this lawsuit. Floyd asked Manny to take a test, Manny refused and Floyd said he wouldnt fight him until he does. Manny should be suing Arum for allowing him to look like a twat;D
What are spewing here completely different situations? Most likely the medical stuff your are referring to is those stupid get rich fat pills from the infomercial products. Those products get shut down in the US but it takes time because of due process.
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Floyd must be pissed! Got to one big blow to his ego.... My guess is we might even see a change in legal personnel. This would make it twice that his counsel failed.
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Floyd must be pissed! Got to one big blow to his ego.... My guess is we might even see a change in legal personnel. This would make it twice that his counsel failed.
Mayweather is compelled to show up on court and testify. If he chooses not to, Pac atorney will file a motion to the judge for a default judgement, since the principal defendant sows no interest in defending himself. It will only take 2 weeks for such judgement to be made.
If pac wins this case, Floyd will have to pay pac a lot of money. No wonder he already envisioned this, and asked golden boy for 40Million vs ortiz. Really great move.
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Dumbass didn't show up.
The prick just thinks he can do whatever he wants I guess. :shakehead:
Mayweather Defies Court Order, No-Shows Deposition - Boxing News
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Floyd must be pissed! Got to one big blow to his ego.... My guess is we might even see a change in legal personnel. This would make it twice that his counsel failed.
Mayweather is compelled to show up on court and testify. If he chooses not to, Pac atorney will file a motion to the judge for a default judgement, since the principal defendant sows no interest in defending himself. It will only take 2 weeks for such judgement to be made.
If pac wins this case, Floyd will have to pay pac a lot of money. No wonder he already envisioned this, and asked golden boy for 40Million vs ortiz. Really great move.
It's a deposition not the trial, so that won't happen. It's up to the Judge what he's going to do at this point. Most likely he'll find Mayweather in contempt, unless he missed the court date for some unforeseeable reason like he was busy beating.... I mean in the hospital, an accident or the like. The Judge will likely set a new deposition date and go on from there. If he don't show up with a valid reason, the Judge may might issue an warrant for his arrest. Although if the Judge is really pissed, he might just have him arrested straight away but I doubt that would happen.
