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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
This is getting funny...
- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting
- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th
- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest... ;D
Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
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Barrera was never going to quit, was he now? It's not for him to decide anyway when he has a cut as long and deep as that. He did not have a mirror, he most likely didnt know or believe it was as bad as it was.
The officials all have question marks surrounding them and should be investigated.
In the case of the Abraham fight. Yes, it was a terrible injury but a different type of injury entirely. The broken jaw doesnt stop you seeing punches coming. It probably hurts a lot though. And the Katsidis fight was WELL underway before the damage became REALLY bad. If the fight is reaching the climax and it's competitive then the fighter should be allowed to see it through.
But this was a butt in the second minute of the fight that would have affected Barrera badly for the entire fight. A different situation and one that should be considered on its own terms. These other fights are just you taking the argument on a tangent.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
This is getting funny...
- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting
- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th
- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest... ;D
Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
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Why did the referee/doctor let the fight continue? so Khan can win. you'd have to be blind to not see that that cut was bad they let him finish, wait about half a round and pulled the plug in order for Khan to get the win.
I really don't know but I'm guessing they're giving Barrera a chance but the cut worsened and they eventually pull the plug... I really don't know...
Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Manuel "Chubby" Medina
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
This is getting funny...
- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting
- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th
- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest... ;D
Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
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Why did the referee/doctor let the fight continue? so Khan can win. you'd have to be blind to not see that that cut was bad they let him finish, wait about half a round and pulled the plug in order for Khan to get the win.
I really don't know but I'm guessing they're giving Barrera a chance but the cut worsened and they eventually pull the plug... I really don't know...
Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
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I guess it was up to them but Barrera keep goin thinkin he was goin to be allowed to keep fightin all 12 rounds not half a round more:-\
Like Miles said "The officials all have question marks surrounding them and should be investigated."
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
I agree, it should have been a no contest had Barrera decided to quit. However, Barrera did not quit because he wanted to take the risk. Probably thinking that he could TKO khan. Khan did not give him the chance to do that so I give credits to Khan.
Had Barrera incidentally TKoed Khan with a lucky shot, the story would have been different. People would praise him for it and he will be back in the game again. Unfortunately for him, the tide did not go with him. Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it. Credit should be given to Khan.
Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it? What kind of talk is that? We have no idea what was said by the doctor in round 4.
For all we know the doctor might have said Barrera would lose by tko if he couldn't continue, we don't know the full situation. At the end of the day that fight was not managed professionally and what should have been a fun fight got tarnished, I'm ashamed by how the fight was managed.
That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue"?????? Are you serious???? Someone as intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt????
Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost. He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan, Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.:cool:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
I agree, it should have been a no contest had Barrera decided to quit. However, Barrera did not quit because he wanted to take the risk. Probably thinking that he could TKO khan. Khan did not give him the chance to do that so I give credits to Khan.
Had Barrera incidentally TKoed Khan with a lucky shot, the story would have been different. People would praise him for it and he will be back in the game again. Unfortunately for him, the tide did not go with him. Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it. Credit should be given to Khan.
Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it? What kind of talk is that? We have no idea what was said by the doctor in round 4.
For all we know the doctor might have said Barrera would lose by tko if he couldn't continue, we don't know the full situation. At the end of the day that fight was not managed professionally and what should have been a fun fight got tarnished, I'm ashamed by how the fight was managed.
That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue"?????? Are you serious???? Someone as
intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt????
Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost.
He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan,
Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.:cool:
He was fightin for Honor thinkin they were goin to let him go the whole fight but they pulled the plug on him ha;f a round later when they could have done it in the 4th.
Are we gonna start hattin on Barrera now?
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
This is getting funny...
- Barrera himself decided to continue fighting
- The referee/doctor decided to let the fight continue up to the 5th
- But some people (probably MAB fans) screaming for the fight to be stopped after round 1 in order to have a no contest... ;D
Why did the officials in Abraham-Miranda fight let Abraham continue despite a broken jaw?? Why did the officials in Katsidis-Amonsot fight let Katsidis continue despite multiple cuts (i think 5) in his face?? Is it because Abraham/Katsidis were still competitive and winning their respective fights?
There's really no solid basis on when to stop the fight...
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To be fair there is a difference between the Abraham Miranda fight and this one in that I believe Abraham's jaw was ruled caused by a punch. That meant if the fight got stopped Miranda automatically wins.
Abraham didn't WANT to carry on, if you've seen that fight his corner have to keep reassuring him that he's winning the fight and just stay away and make it to the final bell. The referee helped of course taking points away from Miranda for things like punching and looking menacing.
But as for the referee stopping the fight earlier it's really not his fault at all imo, it was down to Barrera and his team, maybe the doctor, although to be fair he was right there and the most qualified person in the ring to determine if Barrera could keep going or not.
I don't know if you remember a couple years ago when Laurance Cole advised J M Marquez to quit due to the cut he had sustained via a headbutt telling him he was well ahead on the score cards.
People went nuts, Larry Merchant said he should never be allowed to referee again. The referee CANNOT advise a fighter as to what he should do and if the ref and tried to encourage Barrera to quit he would face severe penalties.
At the end of the day the referee consults with the doctor and asks the fighter if he's ok to continue. If the doctor and the fighter think it can go on then the ref will let it go on.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
I agree, it should have been a no contest had Barrera decided to quit. However, Barrera did not quit because he wanted to take the risk. Probably thinking that he could TKO khan. Khan did not give him the chance to do that so I give credits to Khan.
Had Barrera incidentally TKoed Khan with a lucky shot, the story would have been different. People would praise him for it and he will be back in the game again. Unfortunately for him, the tide did not go with him. Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it. Credit should be given to Khan.
Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it? What kind of talk is that? We have no idea what was said by the doctor in round 4.
For all we know the doctor might have said Barrera would lose by tko if he couldn't continue, we don't know the full situation. At the end of the day that fight was not managed professionally and what should have been a fun fight got tarnished, I'm ashamed by how the fight was managed.
That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue"?????? Are you serious???? Someone as
intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt????
Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost. He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan, Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.:cool:
Nothing about this is funny. I don't understand why the fight wasn't stopped. It's not about Barrera looking more great for me, Bruce. It's about being given a fair shake of the dice. I do concede that Barrera's corner should have got him out of there. You must have read the article Diane posted, that was gruesome reading. But Barrera's corner team are not trained doctors, that doctor that checked Barerra was supposedly a professional though. Barrera's cut was pushing 3 inches long at a precarious point on his skull. Even those biased British commentators were saying how the blood would just not stop and how it was like a motoring accident. Why could the doctor not see that or the referee for that matter? Why did it take until the 5th to stop it when that is the convenient point at which Khan takes his win?
It reeks of shadiness and ineptitude. Barrera is a fighter at the end of the day and would have carried on regardless of the damage. Nobody could ever deny his courage, but his courage is not what I am debating here.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
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Originally Posted by
miles
Barrera took the risk and must suffer for it? What kind of talk is that? We have no idea what was said by the doctor in round 4. For all we know the doctor might have said Barrera would lose by tko if he couldn't continue, we don't know the full situation. At the end of the day that fight was not managed professionally and what should have been a fun fight got tarnished, I'm ashamed by how the fight was managed.
That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue"?????? Are you serious???? Someone as
intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt????
Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost. He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan, Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.:cool:
Nothing about this is funny. I don't understand why the fight wasn't stopped. It's not about Barrera looking more great for me, Bruce. It's about being given a fair shake of the dice. I do concede that Barrera's corner should have got him out of there. You must have read the article Diane posted, that was gruesome reading. But Barrera's corner team are not trained doctors, that doctor that checked Barerra was supposedly a professional though. Barrera's cut was pushing 3 inches long at a precarious point on his skull. Even those biased British commentators were saying how the blood would just not stop and how it was like a motoring accident. Why could the doctor not see that or the referee for that matter? Why did it take until the 5th to stop it when that is the convenient point at which Khan takes his win?
It reeks of shadiness and ineptitude. Barrera is a fighter at the end of the day and would have carried on regardless of the damage.
Nobody could ever deny his courage, but his courage is not what I am debating here.
You cannot exclude courage in this discussion Miles. You just can't. It's the building block of my contention.
Courage is the reason why Barrera decided to continue. It's the reason why he's still fighting despite his age. No Miles. I beg to disagree.:cool:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
I think this pic says it all. What competent doctor would allow a fighter to continue to fight with a 3 inch gash, and this much blood, that would obviously impede the fighters ability to see punches coming at him.
Plain and simple I think.
http://i40.tinypic.com/bgz8eh.jpg
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
brucelee
That's just funny Miles. "The doctor might have said Barrera would lose by TKO if he couldn't continue"?????? Are you serious???? Someone as intelligent and as experienced as Barrera (with his trainer and his coach around him) not knowing the consequence if he stop fighting in the first round because of an accidental headbutt????
Fact of the matter is.... Barrera was hoping for a TKO. He gambled and lost. He was fighting for honor. He lost. No big deal because he did his best. he tried to fight against the odds and continue. What's the problem with that? As a boxing fan, Barrera looked greater to me than before for not quitting immediately.:cool:
Nothing about this is funny. I don't understand why the fight wasn't stopped. It's not about Barrera looking more great for me, Bruce. It's about being given a fair shake of the dice. I do concede that Barrera's corner should have got him out of there. You must have read the article Diane posted, that was gruesome reading. But Barrera's corner team are not trained doctors, that doctor that checked Barerra was supposedly a professional though. Barrera's cut was pushing 3 inches long at a precarious point on his skull. Even those biased British commentators were saying how the blood would just not stop and how it was like a motoring accident. Why could the doctor not see that or the referee for that matter? Why did it take until the 5th to stop it when that is the convenient point at which Khan takes his win?
It reeks of shadiness and ineptitude. Barrera is a fighter at the end of the day and would have carried on regardless of the damage.
Nobody could ever deny his courage, but his courage is not what I am debating here.
You cannot exclude courage in this discussion Miles. You just can't. It's the building block of my contention.
Courage is the reason why Barrera decided to continue. It's the reason why he's still fighting despite his age. No Miles. I beg to disagree.:cool:
Are you trying to wind me up? :rolleyes:
I honestly don't believe you have taken in anything I have said over the duration of this thread. You seem to have missed my points entirely.
Look at that photo Diane has posted just now. We are not medical experts and we can see quite clearly this was no nick above the eyelid or a swelling on the brow. This was a fully fledged laceration of the head with blood streaming into the eye uncontrollably.
Can you tell me with any seriousness that this bout should not have been stopped sooner than it was? Forget the talk of courage, and answer that question as a boxing fan who has seen many cuts before and seen fights stopped for far less?
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Diane
I think this pic says it all. What competent doctor would allow a fighter to continue to fight with a 3 inch gash, and this much blood, that would obviously impede the fighters ability to see punches coming at him.
Plain and simple I think.
http://i40.tinypic.com/bgz8eh.jpg
The doctor really sucked... Plain and simple like Diane said.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
The blood is obviously going in to his eye
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This is a decent piece that sums up this travesty well...
SportingNews.com - The Sporting Blog
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
To be fair Khan would have won this regardless.......and yes the Doctor and the ref should have taken the decision out of MAB's hands and declared this a No-Contest
Job Biscuit (Shame it wasn't a clear cut win for Khan but there we go)!!!
eh eh!!!
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Otley
To be fair Khan would have won this regardless.......and yes the Doctor and the ref should have taken the decision out of MAB's hands and declared this a No-Contest
Job Biscuit (Shame it wasn't a clear cut win for Khan but there we go)!!!
eh eh!!!
You can't really judge that on two minutes of clean boxing though, Barrera seemed right in it to me up until the headclash. Afterwards he was on the back foot more as a direct consequence of the cut, Khan really isn't all he is being cracked up to be.
The UK media seems absurd judging by the things I have been reading! :rolleyes:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
Having watched it on tv now I didn't realise how bad the cut was. MAB is one of the small minority of fighters who would have kept going under those circumstances.
MAB was never going to win on points in such a fight and it was a stoppage he would have been looking for.
He DID hurt Khan twice regardless.
On a level playing field without the cut this fight would have been a cracker and would have been a case of Khan way ahead on points with MAB hunting him down.
I thought a rematch was pointless a couple of days ago but now maybe it's best thing to do.
Had MAB pulled out we would have got a rematch. You have to respect him for not doing that - not that we don't already ;)
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Otley
To be fair Khan would have won this regardless.......and yes the Doctor and the ref should have taken the decision out of MAB's hands and declared this a No-Contest
Job Biscuit (Shame it wasn't a clear cut win for Khan but there we go)!!!
eh eh!!!
You can't really judge that on two minutes of clean boxing though, Barrera seemed right in it to me up until the headclash. Afterwards he was on the back foot more as a direct consequence of the cut, Khan really isn't all he is being cracked up to be.
The UK media seems absurd judging by the things I have been reading! :rolleyes:
I'm disguted by what I've been reading. If it the shoe was on the other foot they would have been calling for the heads of the ref and a doctor.
You know what I also like....how he was doing this for Britain....now he's going to help Manny beat (his friend) Hatton. Nice one.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Howlin Mad Missy
You know what I also like....how he was doing this for Britain....now he's going to help Manny beat (his friend) Hatton. Nice one.
Who was he going to be doing it for, the Phillapeans?
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
on instinct I didn't like Khan and he keeps doing more to prove me right:cool:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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miles
on the money article.
the press won't slam anything to do with warren in case he doesn't let them play & they would have to pay for ticket to watch boxing.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Memphis
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Howlin Mad Missy
You know what I also like....how he was doing this for Britain....now he's going to help Manny beat (his friend) Hatton. Nice one.
Who was he going to be doing it for, the Phillapeans?
Amir willing to help Manny on personal level... I don't think it's for the Filipinos... ;)
You can read more here --> http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-pacquiao.html
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
miles
on the money article.
the press won't slam anything to do with warren in case he doesn't let them play & they would have to pay for ticket to watch boxing.
That's true.. but many sports writers seem genuinely happy the guy representing Britain won. I too find the lack of refrences to the cut ruining the fight jarring.
That "Sporting Blog" article is OK but it's easy with hindsight to say what SHOULD have happened. Stopping the fight so early may have caused a RIOT. Barrera might have knocked him spark-out after being allowed to carry on. Barrera might have said he was OK to continue then we would have threads saying they fixed it to SAVE Khan from a KO ;D
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I think that article was spot on, give them a round to stop the flow, then stop the fight in the second when it was abundantly clear that it was severely impairing his vision. I'm also disgusted with the press (and Khan) for declaring it such a victory, and have lost all respect I had for Jim Watts commentating - he's usually one that goes overboard in describing how even minor cuts can impair a man's performance but sucked up to the box office bullshit. How could such a legend be treated so shabbily?
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Otley
To be fair Khan would have won this regardless.......and yes the Doctor and the ref should have taken the decision out of MAB's hands and declared this a No-Contest
Job Biscuit (Shame it wasn't a clear cut win for Khan but there we go)!!!
eh eh!!!
I totally agree, the fight should have been stopped because the blood poured from the clash till the end, if it was ok in the second, third and fourth despide the waterfall of blood, why calling it off in the fifth? It should have been stopped before. Thus said, Khan won clearly every rounds, wasn't even close, the kid showed his skills and we can't take that from him. NOw we can speculate "what if I" but it becomes than pure fantasy and we have no way to clearly foresee the future using all the "what if". Fact is: the fight should have been stopped before and it was a bit unfair to barrera, fact is: Khan totally dominated a guy over 5 rounds, a guy everybody including Khan's friends saw as being the british's boy undertaker. Did Barrera got an unfair lost in the circumstances? I think so. Did Khan showed what everybody wanted to see from him? Yes.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
Can anyone honestly say, on the night, they would have been happy for a no-contest to be called after 2 rounds?
Either way it would have been a terrible unsatisfactory ending.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Fenster
Can anyone honestly say, on the night, they would have been happy for a no-contest to be called after 2 rounds?
Either way it would have been a terrible unsatisfactory ending.
no BUT it would have been the correct decision to take. What is this mob rule?
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Fenster
Can anyone honestly say, on the night, they would have been happy for a no-contest to be called after 2 rounds?
Either way it would have been a terrible unsatisfactory ending.
It would have been the correct call though. It's beyond me how it could have got past the doctors check in the 4th. It should have been stopped by the end of the 2nd. It was an awful display of officiating all round. I have my suspicions of course as to why the 5th was suddenly the "right" time to end it. :-\
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mob rule? :-\
I don't buy that 5th round conspiracy stuff.
So the ref and doctor purposely let the fight continue to give Khan a win? What would have happend had Barrera sparked him before the 5th round ending? You'd all be saying the ref and doctor consprired against Khan by letting Barrera continue, right? ;D
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Fenster
mob rule? :-\
I don't buy that 5th round conspiracy stuff.
So the ref and doctor purposely let the fight continue to give Khan a win? What would have happend had Barrera sparked him before the 5th round ending? You'd all be saying the ref and doctor consprired against Khan by letting Barrera continue, right? ;D
If he'd have stopped him I would have said Barrera was lucky because the fight could have been stopped at any time. I would have also said Khan is chinny - which he still is:cool:
not saying it was an intentional 'lets fix this for khan' but by leaving it till then we did come out with a 'winner' rather than an 'unsatisfactory' (your words) NC.
How much worse was the cut from the first time the doctor looked at it till they waved it off? I do think the question needs to be asked why they let it continue.
When I saw the cut start bleeding out I thought shit this is going to be stopped any second now, my next thought was shit, £300 and they haven't finished a round. I'm sure there were people with more on the line than their ticket money :cool: I would have been disappointed BUT I say again it would have been the right decision.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Can anyone honestly say, on the night, they would have been happy for a no-contest to be called after 2 rounds?
Either way it would have been a terrible unsatisfactory ending.
I paid to be there and I paid for the ppv and Id have prefered to have seen the right decision . An NC after 1 round
Its not about making people happy at Barreras exspense. Its about doing the right thing
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
mob rule? :-\
I don't buy that 5th round conspiracy stuff.
So the ref and doctor purposely let the fight continue to give Khan a win? What would have happend had Barrera sparked him before the 5th round ending? You'd all be saying the ref and doctor consprired against Khan by letting Barrera continue, right? ;D
If he'd have stopped him I would have said Barrera was lucky because the fight could have been stopped at any time. I would have also said Khan is chinny - which he still is:cool:
not saying it was an intentional 'lets fix this for khan' but by leaving it till then we did come out with a 'winner' rather than an 'unsatisfactory' (your words) NC.
How much worse was the cut from the first time the doctor looked at it till they waved it off? I do think the question needs to be asked why they let it continue.
When I saw the cut start bleeding out I thought shit this is going to be stopped any second now, my next thought was shit, £300 and they haven't finished a round. I'm sure there were people with more on the line than their ticket money :cool: I would have been disappointed BUT I say again it would have been the right decision.
I said Khan's "win" was unsatisfactory too. ;)
Personally I would have benefited from a NC. I would have GREATLY benefitted had Barrera landed the KO punch though - so prefered the gamble.
Maybe Dave Parris gave Barrera a chance to get into the fight but then realised the handicap was too great?
Or maybe you're right - he purposely risked Khan getting sparked so we could have a winner?
Dunno.
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
I prefer the option I read on PM that said Dave Parris was shitting himself ;D
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I wonder who that was from ;)
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
mob rule? :-\
I don't buy that 5th round conspiracy stuff.
So the ref and doctor purposely let the fight continue to give Khan a win? What would have happend had Barrera sparked him before the 5th round ending? You'd all be saying the ref and doctor consprired against Khan by letting Barrera continue, right? ;D
You can clearly see Warren signal to the ref about 10 seconds before the doctor looked at the cut again.
Warren signals for him to look at the cut.....ref waits a few more seconds ....
Rest is History.
Look at Warren 3 mins 14 secs in;) (centre ringside)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKB4JEF9e0M
Amir was all over him anyway.;D
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
Anyone think theres anything in that :confused:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Fenster
I wonder who that was from ;)
Dave Parris:cool:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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smashup
Anyone think theres anything in that :confused:
really wouldn't surprise me.
Did you see warrens cheshire cat grin when he went to Barreras corner? :mad: Nevermined trying to look sincere about an unlucky cut. Barrera should have punched him:cool:
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
That's a bit inconclusive. He could have been wiping sweat from his bonce. He was telling Khan to jab not long before that.
Although Barrera had just shook Khan with a righthand, so understandable they shit themselves.
Cheating dirty cunts. Knew i should have backed Khan ;D
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
That's a bit inconclusive. He could have been wiping sweat from his bonce. He was telling Khan to jab not long before that.
Although Barrera had just shook Khan with a righthand, so understandable they shit themselves.
Cheating cunts. ;D
that's the spirit!;D
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Re: Should the Khan/Barrera fight have been called a no contest?
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
That's a bit inconclusive. He could have been wiping sweat from his bonce. He was telling Khan to jab not long before that.
Although Barrera had just shook Khan with a righthand, so understandable they shit themselves.
Cheating cunts. ;D
that's the spirit!;D
Could've been Barreras blood he was wiping;D
