Mayweather: "If Manny wants it, I'll pay Juan to step aside"

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Kel

How can you defend Floyd? The fight was signed, Marquez who has worked fucking hard to get where he is at is expected to just fuck off with a payout because Floyd ain't the draw he thinks he is?

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That is his choice, if he wants to step aside for a mil than so be it.. JMM holds the cards on this one, thats why I shake my head at you guys for giving Floyd shit. He is contractually obligated to fight Marquez and offering him quite a pay day to step aside or To F#CK Off (using your words)

You can say all the shit you want.. Floyd is a draw and the numbers prove it.

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You Roger or what? uuurrrgghh!

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Fuker, you never answered me on if that demo you were playing yesterday was any good;D

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by knodaledge

All i see is that Mayweather just layed down the gauntlet and if I dont hear something from Pacquiao, i'll have to assume he don't want to fight Floyd & i'll lose respect for him.

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So if Pac does not jump like a puppet and agree to fight Floyd at his command he loses your respect?

The boxing world does not revolve around Floyd Mayweather, it never really has........and that's his fault!

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I thought he was being ironic

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This guy wins the car!

I was saying how everyone called out Mayweather and haters made it out as if he didn't fight them, he was ducking.

But I do expect something from Pacquiao's camp. That is the fight we all want to see & if Pacquiao's people don't want it (money issues aside), it does speak volumes.

I still haven't heard of JMM's feedback on this. Imo he should speak up. It seems like he doesn't wanna offend Floyd or something.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

and see what he draws besinds flies for another boring as shit performance

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Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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I've found pretty much all of his fights to be exciting, or interesting to watch. Except a few of his fights above Jr Welterweight. At Super Feathweight he was a pleasure to watch, because he could be a boxer/puncher, because he had pretty heavy hands at that weightclass.

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Hahaha, you're big fans, of course you would think that, you two having a debate on whether or not Floyd is boring would be awesome

Ice: What did you think of the Sharmba Mitchell fight?
JT: I thought it was great!
Ice: So did I!

;D

Whether a guy is boring or not is obviously pretty subjective. Unless you're talking about the Baldomir fight :cwm13: Overall I think he's been a fairly good watch.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

and see what he draws besinds flies for another boring as shit performance

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Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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I've found pretty much all of his fights to be exciting, or interesting to watch. Except a few of his fights above Jr Welterweight. At Super Feathweight he was a pleasure to watch, because he could be a boxer/puncher, because he had pretty heavy hands at that weightclass.

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The fights with Baldomir and even De La Hoya wee snoozers, for me anyways. Hatton fight was hilarious in its own way. The Gatti{RIP}fight was very entertaining if you like slaughterhouses;D The Judah debacle was great. But yeah those Angel Manfredy days were good fun and he was dynamic. I just think he's a butt hole but you'd have to be an intern at the Institute for the Blind to ignore his talent.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

and see what he draws besinds flies for another boring as shit performance

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Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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Baldomir
Judah
DLH

to name a few......

I will be the first to say though up until he left 135 I was a fan all of a sudden after 135 he turned into a boring fighter

Do not get me confused on his talent, I respect what he is capable of but I am strictly talking on a PPV basis

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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I've found pretty much all of his fights to be exciting, or interesting to watch. Except a few of his fights above Jr Welterweight. At Super Feathweight he was a pleasure to watch, because he could be a boxer/puncher, because he had pretty heavy hands at that weightclass.

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Hahaha, you're big fans, of course you would think that, you two having a debate on whether or not Floyd is boring would be awesome

Ice: What did you think of the Sharmba Mitchell fight?
JT: I thought it was great!
Ice: So did I!

;D

Whether a guy is boring or not is obviously pretty subjective. Unless you're talking about the Baldomir fight :cwm13: Overall I think he's been a fairly good watch.

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I just took the Mitchell fight for what it was, a barometer for the Welter division...

Plus i'm not taking any shit from a guy named OumaFan... Need I say more :cwm13: ;D

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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I've found pretty much all of his fights to be exciting, or interesting to watch. Except a few of his fights above Jr Welterweight. At Super Feathweight he was a pleasure to watch, because he could be a boxer/puncher, because he had pretty heavy hands at that weightclass.

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Hahaha, you're big fans, of course you would think that, you two having a debate on whether or not Floyd is boring would be awesome

Ice: What did you think of the Sharmba Mitchell fight?
JT: I thought it was great!
Ice: So did I!

;D

Whether a guy is boring or not is obviously pretty subjective. Unless you're talking about the Baldomir fight :cwm13:

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Well to be honest Ouma i don't know how anyone, could find these fights boring.

Jose Luis Castillo 1
Emmanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Genaro Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
DeMarcus Corley
Arturo Gatti
Zab Judah

ETC.

I tend to like skillful fighters over exciting brawling type fighters, of course i like to see a good toe to toe war like anybody else. But i just love the way a good boxer breaks down an opponent, like James Toney for example.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

and see what he draws besinds flies for another boring as shit performance

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Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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Baldomir
Judah
DLH

to name a few......

I will be the first to say though up until he left 135 I was a fan all of a sudden after 135 he turned into a boring fighter

Do not get me confused on his talent, I respect what he is capable of but I am strictly talking on a PPV basis

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You found the Zab Judah fight boring ? i found it exciting because Floyd Mayweather Jr looked in trouble early on, which made it exciting because you wasn't sure how it was going to go, then he comeback and started to destroy Zab Judah with some beautiful boxing.

Then the whole riot thing made it even more exciting. I didn't think the ODLH fight was too bad either, i remember alot of people on this site saying it was a better fight, than they expected it to be.

I agree ICE, those were for the most part fun fights. Some might have been a bit too one sided to be considered really exciting (I always though the N'dou fight was a bit overrated as a good fight, that was an ass kicking, N'dou was just tough)

Zab Judah? I don't know, I haven't seen it in forever but I thought it was more an ok fight.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

and see what he draws besinds flies for another boring as shit performance

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Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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Baldomir
Judah
DLH

to name a few......

I will be the first to say though up until he left 135 I was a fan all of a sudden after 135 he turned into a boring fighter

Do not get me confused on his talent, I respect what he is capable of but I am strictly talking on a PPV basis

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What the hell was wrong with the Judah fight:confused:

He landed everything on Baldomir, and didnt want to sell out and lose a trillion dollars to fight DLH

DLH, you mean the fresh lively 154lb version that pac DIDNT FIGHT?

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Originally Posted by LEGION

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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I've found pretty much all of his fights to be exciting, or interesting to watch. Except a few of his fights above Jr Welterweight. At Super Feathweight he was a pleasure to watch, because he could be a boxer/puncher, because he had pretty heavy hands at that weightclass.

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The fights with Baldomir and even De La Hoya wee snoozers, for me anyways. Hatton fight was hilarious in its own way. The Gatti{RIP}fight was very entertaining if you like slaughterhouses;D The Judah debacle was great. But yeah those Angel Manfredy days were good fun and he was dynamic. I just think he's a butt hole but you'd have to be an intern at the Institute for the Blind to ignore his talent.

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That's exactly where i stand with Floyd! At the lower weights he was very exciting to watch; amazing skill mixed with knockout power. He did have some boring fights but to label him a "boring fighter" is personal preference, not a fact.

My negative feelings towards the guy is based on his mouth. Calling himself the "cash cow," saying he's the best fighter to ever fight, certain excuses he throws out there about why he doesn't fight certain people, etc. I respect the fighter, but I don't respect the person.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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Baldomir
Judah
DLH

to name a few......

I will be the first to say though up until he left 135 I was a fan all of a sudden after 135 he turned into a boring fighter

Do not get me confused on his talent, I respect what he is capable of but I am strictly talking on a PPV basis

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What the hell was wrong with the Judah fight:confused:

He landed everything on Baldomir, and didnt want to sell out and lose a trillion dollars to fight DLH

DLH, you mean the fresh lively 154lb version that pac DIDNT FIGHT?

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I'll admit to Floyd fighting a more dangerous version of Oscar. But did you really expect Manny who fought at 130 at March of 2008 to be able to fight Oscar at 154 by December of the same year?

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

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Originally Posted by ICB

I've found pretty much all of his fights to be exciting, or interesting to watch. Except a few of his fights above Jr Welterweight. At Super Feathweight he was a pleasure to watch, because he could be a boxer/puncher, because he had pretty heavy hands at that weightclass.

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Hahaha, you're big fans, of course you would think that, you two having a debate on whether or not Floyd is boring would be awesome

Ice: What did you think of the Sharmba Mitchell fight?
JT: I thought it was great!
Ice: So did I!

;D

Whether a guy is boring or not is obviously pretty subjective. Unless you're talking about the Baldomir fight :cwm13:

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Well to be honest Ouma i don't know how anyone, could find these fights boring.

Jose Luis Castillo 1
Emmanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Genaro Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
DeMarcus Corley
Arturo Gatti
Zab Judah

ETC.

I tend to like skillful fighters over exciting brawling type fighters, of course i like to see a good toe to toe war like anybody else. But i just love the way a good boxer breaks down an opponent, like James Toney for example.

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all are good fights but how about the numbers on ppv? is it great?
just asking..

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Surely you wouldnt mind listing these so called boring as shat performances
among his 39 fights.

Thanks;)

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Baldomir
Judah
DLH

to name a few......

I will be the first to say though up until he left 135 I was a fan all of a sudden after 135 he turned into a boring fighter

Do not get me confused on his talent, I respect what he is capable of but I am strictly talking on a PPV basis

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What the hell was wrong with the Judah fight:confused:

He landed everything on Baldomir, and didnt want to sell out and lose a trillion dollars to fight DLH

DLH, you mean the fresh lively 154lb version that pac DIDNT FIGHT?

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In the Baldomir fight everyone who didn't leave in the 9th, 10th, or 11th rounds were booing. Rarely if ever is such a negative reaction seen in a championship fight, but floyd managed to get one. And baldomir has one of the lower ko % you can get. Floyd still didnt take a single risk. That's why people were walking out early, that's why people boo'd him, that's why he isn't the PPV draw he seems to think he is.

Fact remains his opponents are the main draw in every mega fight he has been in, not him.

I think Floyd is just afraid he'd about to be hid int he head real good... and woke up knowing his fight won't sell...

I respect FMJ, and I like his boxing.. I think he is one of the best fighter of all time.. but he doesn't put the body work on.. He should have fough my guy Mosley 2 years ago... this year... or maybe Cotto, it is just a waste of greatness when your head is in the cloud.. not knowing when to bow down..

He will instead bow out as the biggest jerk in boxing...

manny is the best..

Floyd needs to cut to the chase and just re retire.I think its eating him alive that Manny....or anyone.....has just past him by and is the new shot caller riding the headlines.Its an insult but not a suprise at all...it was all geared towards a Mayweather/Pac fight in the first place.Floyd has to realize that he is not driving the car.Floyd does not put azzes in the seats!!

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Originally Posted by ASIAN SENSATION

Hey Floyd! Miguel, Shane, Tony, and Paul wants it too. When are they gonna get their chance to fight you? They've been waiting like forever. Lol

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Sorry which one of them has earned this as much as Manny has?

The second argument Mayweather makes is if there is a fight to determine which man is better in the ring, he will receive the majority of the money from it.

That notion doesn’t sit well with the boxing promoter that represents Pacquiao, Bob Arum. Mayweather has already made it clear he wouldn’t consider a 50/50 split with Pacquiao because of his track record of generating enormous pay-per-view buys.

Schaefer agrees with him.

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

“So, it’s difficult for Floyd, who has worked so hard to get to where he is today, to say, ‘Okay, it should be 50/50,’ because in fact, it shouldn’t be 50/50. Each guy has a certain market value and they should get compensated accordingly.”


Schaefer makes a great point.

Who really gives a shit who takes the lions share of the purse. Real fight fans just want to see a good fight. It's only the fanboys of the fighters that argues who should take what.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Who really gives a shit who takes the lions share of the purse. Real fight fans just want to see a good fight. It's only the fanboys of the fighters that argues who should take what.

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I agree. But this is also a business. This is their careers and they want to be paid accordingly.

I just don't see why Pacquiao's people wouldn't take the fight. Mayweather said he wants it, he has the proof of drawing more against the 2 most recent common opponents, it's the fight the fans want to see.

There should be no reason negotiations shouldn't be taking place as we speak. I really hope they are.

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Originally Posted by knodaledge

The second argument Mayweather makes is if

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

Schaefer makes a great point.

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Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

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The second argument Mayweather makes is if

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

Schaefer makes a great point.

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Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

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But Oscar/Hatton had the same HUGE followings when they fought Pacquiao. Why did they only do half the sales then?

We can only take from these numbers that, to the public, fights between Oscar/Mayweather & Hatton/Mayweather were more intriguing than Oscar/Pac & Hatton/Pac matches.

Also, were the reports of the fight not selling true? I remember hearing rumors but no evidence was presented. I read a report from a Golden Boy rep that said the rumors were false. Are they still rumor or were they proven fact?

Floyd not selling tickets is a big evidence that he's no longer a draw, period.

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The second argument Mayweather makes is if

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

Schaefer makes a great point.

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Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

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But Oscar/Hatton had the same HUGE followings when they fought Pacquiao. Why did they only do half the sales then?

We can only take from these numbers that, to the public, fights between Oscar/Mayweather & Hatton/Mayweather were more intriguing than Oscar/Pac & Hatton/Pac matches.

Also, were the reports of the fight not selling true? I remember hearing rumors but no evidence was presented. I read a report from a Golden Boy rep that said the rumors were false. Are they still rumor or were they proven fact?

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Like I've said real fight fans just wanna see a good fight, most don't care who gets the lions share but the diehard fanboys of either fighters.

I don't give a shit if Pacman gets 40% of the purse or Floyd gets 60% of it and vice versa, I just want to see a good fight.

Are you working for Floyd?

There are reasons why Floyd's fights with De La Hoya and Hatton made more than Pacquiao's:

A) De La Hoya fighting for thye P4P Title at his preferred weight
B) The hype surrounding an UNBEATEN Ricky Hatton
C) Much better economic times
D) Both Pacquiao fights were seen as mismatches and on one was sure how a former flyweight champ could perform against a top welterweight

The thing Floyd and his biased followers don't realize is that NONE of these have ANY correlation to who is the biggest draw in boxing today which is obviously Manny Pacquiao.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Who really gives a shit who takes the lions share of the purse. Real fight fans just want to see a good fight. It's only the fanboys of the fighters that argues who should take what.

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It's not the fans reaction to the purse split that fighters care about, its the money.

Floyd cares and he doesn't care if the fans care or not.

He feels he will be bringing in the majority of the PPV money and so he should receive a greater share.

It's not something that fanboys or haters can even argue over, its just the negotiations between the fighters. I want the fight to happen immensely and I don't care if one agrees to a 99-1 split but the fighters themselves care and therin lies the problem.

I don't know if its obvious if one guy is bigger than the other, their the two biggest draws but just saying Floyd did more buys is ignoring some obvious factors influencing that which Truth mentioned.

Except for both Pacquaio fights being mismatches. Yes with ODLH but not Hatton. Unless you mean the Hatton fight was thought of as a mismatch in Manny's favor? I don't think it was thought of as a mismatch either way, a lot of people were going with Hatton.

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Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

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But Oscar/Hatton had the same HUGE followings when they fought Pacquiao. Why did they only do half the sales then?

We can only take from these numbers that, to the public, fights between Oscar/Mayweather & Hatton/Mayweather were more intriguing than Oscar/Pac & Hatton/Pac matches.

Also, were the reports of the fight not selling true? I remember hearing rumors but no evidence was presented. I read a report from a Golden Boy rep that said the rumors were false. Are they still rumor or were they proven fact?

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Like I've said real fight fans just wanna see a good fight, most don't care who gets the lions share but the diehard fanboys of either fighters.

I don't give a shit if Pacman gets 40% of the purse or Floyd gets 60% of it and vice versa, I just want to see a good fight.

Are you working for Floyd?

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Actually i'm not. I'm just a fan of boxing and would like to see this match happen because it is the best fight possible and would determine which fighter will claim the "boxer of the decade" throne.

All i see is one guy calling out the other, and the other saying nothing about it. One guy willing to pay out of pocket to make his #2 ranked opponent get out of the way so he can get at the #1 guy, and the other guy saying nothing.

The money thing shouldn't be the deciding factor for Pacquiao & his camp. The proof has been presented and the bottom line, the profit, favors Mayweather.

I'm a fan of both fighters and would support both of them but there should be no reason why this isn't being negotiated. Mayweather said he wants it, does Pacquiao? If this fight doesn't happen, who should we blame? The guy saying he's willing to pay out of pocket to get it or the guy who hasn't even issued a statement about it yet?

What happened to Floyd wanting a "tune-up" fight to ease back in the game? If Floyd wanted Pac that bad maybe he should have waited until after Pac beat Hatton to come out of retirement, instead of announcing his fight with JMM right before the Hatton/Pac fight. I'm sure had that been the case the Mayweather/Pac fight could have been made by now.

^But why can't it be done now? Pacquiao isnt signed to fight anybody, in fact he's looking for an opponent. Mayweather is willing to pay out of pocket to free himself to fight Pacquiao.

I just want to see the effort from Pacquiao & his people to get this fight signed. This is the fight the people want, he's wifdely regarded as a people's champ. Give the people what they want. Or atleast make an effort to.

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Originally Posted by LEGION

What happened to Floyd wanting a "tune-up" fight to ease back in the game? If Floyd wanted Pac that bad maybe he should have waited until after Pac beat Hatton to come out of retirement, instead of announcing his fight with JMM right before the Hatton/Pac fight. I'm sure had that been the case the Mayweather/Pac fight could have been made by now.

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I was thinking the same thing also. It was the day before Hatton-Pacman that Floyd announced he's fighting JMM. What he couldn't wait a few days after the fight to start negotiating with Pac? But instead waits after he signed a fight deal with JMM and now comes out with this.

Floyd fanboys have to look at that instead of coming into this thread and blaming Pacman for not making the fight happen when he's in negotiation with Cotto and Floyd is getting ready to fight JMM.

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Originally Posted by knodaledge

^But why can't it be done now? Pacquiao isnt signed to fight anybody, in fact he's looking for an opponent. Mayweather is willing to pay out of pocket to free himself to fight Pacquiao.

I just want to see the effort from Pacquiao & his people to get this fight signed. This is the fight the people want, he's wifdely regarded as a people's champ. Give the people what they want. Or atleast make an effort to.

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I'm with you man; I'd love to see the fight. It could be done now; but the Cotto negotiations are still going on so who knows? I'm just saying some of this could have been alleviated if Floyd and his "tune up" fight would have been put on the back burner. Just cause' Floyd says "jump" now doesn't mean Pac should. Maybe that's it; Pac's camp being stubborn. How would I know?;D

;D knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

;D knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

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Good. And yeah I know and said yesterday I hope JMM says hell no to the take a walk $$$ just to spite him. It's insulting to me. But what if he takes the money to walk? What then?;D

I'd be pretty shocked. I know its a free million dollars but JMM is a fighter who thinks he has a chance to win (I'm sure) and he gets 4 million for fighting. This could be his last huge payday, 3 mill more is a big difference. And I don't really know who he can big money with outside of these two, maybe by brutalizing Ricky.

If it does well that changes things ;D

and who even knows if Floyd even thinks its a good idea today ;D

Floyd's not a brilliant orator, he gets bothered and says stupid stuff. It seems from reading the thing it was fairly offhand.

Until I hear more about it I don't see a reason to take it seriously.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I'd be pretty shocked. I know its a free million dollars but JMM is a fighter who thinks he has a chance to win (I'm sure) and he gets 4 million for fighting. This could be his last huge payday, 3 mill more is a big difference. And I don't really know who he can big money with outside of these two, maybe by brutalizing Ricky.

If it does well that changes things ;D

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Yeah he is a fighter; and he's got to be at least somewhat peeved about this snubbing{if it's true} And hell yeah 4 mil is alot better even should he lose than 1 mil; and then years from now people saying "he was scared and took the lunch $$ and ran". Can't see it. Hope I don't see it.

And how funny a farewell fight for Hatton in UK only to get steamrolled by a geezer this time.;D

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

;D knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

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He does have a say, but not enough of a say to stop a Pac/Mayweather fight. Mayweather could just decide he's not going to fight JMM. He'll breach contract & I'm sure he'll have to pay a monetary penalty & maybe even take a ban in nevada, but the fight could be sanctioned anywhere. No body in their right mind would refuse to allow a Pac/Mayweather match.

There's ways around contracts & if it brings about the BEST FIGHT POSSIBLE, I'm all for it.

Again, I dont think Pacquiao MUST take the fight. If the stipulations aren't worthy, fine. But his people should at least be pushing for it now. Issue a statement at least.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

and who even knows if Floyd even thinks its a good idea today ;D

Floyd's not a brilliant orator, he gets bothered and says stupid stuff. It seems from reading the thing it was fairly offhand.

Until I hear more about it I don't see a reason to take it seriously.

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Didn't I say the same thing yesterday Ouma? ;)

On a different note, I heard the UFC are putting up a show against this fight.

one thing i dont want to happen is if pbf demands the lions share on pac. its pretty obvious now that pac should be getting the upper hand money wise. if pbf wants it he should agree to pacs terms not his. if he still insists to get the lion share then thats an indication that pbf doesnt want to fight pac.