Mayweather: "If Manny wants it, I'll pay Juan to step aside"

[OumaFan]

knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

[LEGION]

knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

Good. And yeah I know and said yesterday I hope JMM says hell no to the take a walk $$$ just to spite him. It's insulting to me. But what if he takes the money to walk? What then?

[OumaFan]

I'd be pretty shocked. I know its a free million dollars but JMM is a fighter who thinks he has a chance to win (I'm sure) and he gets 4 million for fighting. This could be his last huge payday, 3 mill more is a big difference. And I don't really know who he can big money with outside of these two, maybe by brutalizing Ricky.

If it does well that changes things

[OumaFan]

and who even knows if Floyd even thinks its a good idea today

Floyd's not a brilliant orator, he gets bothered and says stupid stuff. It seems from reading the thing it was fairly offhand.

Until I hear more about it I don't see a reason to take it seriously.

[JazMerkin]

and who even knows if Floyd even thinks its a good idea today

Floyd's not a brilliant orator, he gets bothered and says stupid stuff. It seems from reading the thing it was fairly offhand.

Until I hear more about it I don't see a reason to take it seriously.

Didn't I say the same thing yesterday Ouma?

On a different note, I heard the UFC are putting up a show against this fight.

[LEGION]

I'd be pretty shocked. I know its a free million dollars but JMM is a fighter who thinks he has a chance to win (I'm sure) and he gets 4 million for fighting. This could be his last huge payday, 3 mill more is a big difference. And I don't really know who he can big money with outside of these two, maybe by brutalizing Ricky.

If it does well that changes things

Yeah he is a fighter; and he's got to be at least somewhat peeved about this snubbing{if it's true} And hell yeah 4 mil is alot better even should he lose than 1 mil; and then years from now people saying "he was scared and took the lunch $$ and ran". Can't see it. Hope I don't see it.

And how funny a farewell fight for Hatton in UK only to get steamrolled by a geezer this time.

[knodaledge]

knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

He does have a say, but not enough of a say to stop a Pac/Mayweather fight. Mayweather could just decide he's not going to fight JMM. He'll breach contract & I'm sure he'll have to pay a monetary penalty & maybe even take a ban in nevada, but the fight could be sanctioned anywhere. No body in their right mind would refuse to allow a Pac/Mayweather match.

There's ways around contracts & if it brings about the BEST FIGHT POSSIBLE, I'm all for it.

Again, I dont think Pacquiao MUST take the fight. If the stipulations aren't worthy, fine. But his people should at least be pushing for it now. Issue a statement at least.

[OumaFan]

knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

He does have a say, but not enough of a say to stop a Pac/Mayweather fight. Mayweather could just decide he's not going to fight JMM. He'll breach contract & I'm sure he'll have to pay a monetary penalty & maybe even take a ban in nevada, but the fight could be sanctioned anywhere. No body in their right mind would refuse to allow a Pac/Mayweather match.

There's ways around contracts & if it brings about the BEST FIGHT POSSIBLE, I'm all for it.

Again, I dont think Pacquiao MUST take the fight. If the stipulations aren't worthy, fine. But his people should at least be pushing for it now. Issue a statement at least.

I seriously doubt Pacquaio's people are going to issue a statement (its not a magic wand anyway) urging Floyd to breach his contract with JMM.

Everyone knows this fight is going to be on the table soon assuming Floyd wins and assuming Pac wins if he even fights before that, I assume he will. There's too much money on the table for Pacquaio's people to not go after it and vice versa.

Anyway if Floyd had wanted to fight Manny in his first fight back he would have waited till the day after the Hatton fight to decide who he was going to fight. I doubt there are serious discussions to get out of the JMM fight unless the fight is doing extremely poorly economically. I don't really know how poorly its doing.

[JazMerkin]

knodaledge you do realize JMM has a say in this right?

Some people are taking this offhand comment from Floyd too seriously, its not happening. The Floyd/Pac debate starts for real after the JMM fight, if he wins obviously.

He does have a say, but not enough of a say to stop a Pac/Mayweather fight. Mayweather could just decide he's not going to fight JMM. He'll breach contract & I'm sure he'll have to pay a monetary penalty & maybe even take a ban in nevada, but the fight could be sanctioned anywhere. No body in their right mind would refuse to allow a Pac/Mayweather match.

There's ways around contracts & if it brings about the BEST FIGHT POSSIBLE, I'm all for it.

Again, I dont think Pacquiao MUST take the fight. If the stipulations aren't worthy, fine. But his people should at least be pushing for it now. Issue a statement at least.

I seriously doubt Pacquaio's people are going to issue a statement (its not a magic wand anyway) urging Floyd to breach his contract with JMM.

Everyone knows this fight is going to be on the table soon assuming Floyd wins and assuming Pac wins if he even fights before that, I assume he will.

If Floyd had wanted to fight Manny in his first fight back he would have waited till the day after the Hatton fight to decide who he was going to fight. I doubt there are serious discussions to get out of the JMM fight unless the fight is doing extremely poorly economically. I don't really know how poorly its doing.

I really doubt its doing poorly enough that they would buy JMM out of his contract. It would have to have sold on a similar level to the Dawson-Tarver II fight to justify that, & as the cheaper level of tickets have all sold out (I've checked today as I was considering going over) I really doubt it's doing as badly as some people make out.

[OumaFan]

He does have a say, but not enough of a say to stop a Pac/Mayweather fight. Mayweather could just decide he's not going to fight JMM. He'll breach contract & I'm sure he'll have to pay a monetary penalty & maybe even take a ban in nevada, but the fight could be sanctioned anywhere. No body in their right mind would refuse to allow a Pac/Mayweather match.

There's ways around contracts & if it brings about the BEST FIGHT POSSIBLE, I'm all for it.

Again, I dont think Pacquiao MUST take the fight. If the stipulations aren't worthy, fine. But his people should at least be pushing for it now. Issue a statement at least.

I seriously doubt Pacquaio's people are going to issue a statement (its not a magic wand anyway) urging Floyd to breach his contract with JMM.

Everyone knows this fight is going to be on the table soon assuming Floyd wins and assuming Pac wins if he even fights before that, I assume he will.

If Floyd had wanted to fight Manny in his first fight back he would have waited till the day after the Hatton fight to decide who he was going to fight. I doubt there are serious discussions to get out of the JMM fight unless the fight is doing extremely poorly economically. I don't really know how poorly its doing.

I really doubt its doing poorly enough that they would buy JMM out of his contract. It would have to have sold on a similar level to the Dawson-Tarver II fight to justify that, & as the cheaper level of tickets have all sold out (I've checked today as I was considering going over) I really doubt it's doing as badly as some people make out.

You would think its gotta do 500, 000 buys. I would think. I mean he did 300 plus vs Baldoajamu I think.

It will be interesting to see how much Pacquaio vs Cotto does in comparison. I'm sure if it does clearly more Mayweather will say Cotto was a bigger draw and I guess he'd be right. Come to think of it I don't know how I'd rank JMM on the "draw" scale. I guess not as high as he should be.

[LEGION]

I seriously doubt Pacquaio's people are going to issue a statement (its not a magic wand anyway) urging Floyd to breach his contract with JMM.

Everyone knows this fight is going to be on the table soon assuming Floyd wins and assuming Pac wins if he even fights before that, I assume he will.

If Floyd had wanted to fight Manny in his first fight back he would have waited till the day after the Hatton fight to decide who he was going to fight. I doubt there are serious discussions to get out of the JMM fight unless the fight is doing extremely poorly economically. I don't really know how poorly its doing.

I really doubt its doing poorly enough that they would buy JMM out of his contract. It would have to have sold on a similar level to the Dawson-Tarver II fight to justify that, & as the cheaper level of tickets have all sold out (I've checked today as I was considering going over) I really doubt it's doing as badly as some people make out.

You would think its gotta do 500, 000 buys. I would think. I mean he did 300 plus vs Baldoajamu I think.

It will be interesting to see how much Pacquaio vs Cotto does in comparison. I'm sure if it does clearly more Mayweather will say Cotto was a bigger draw and I guess he'd be right. Come to think of it I don't know how I'd rank JMM on the "draw" scale. I guess not as high as he should be.

How would Cotto be a bigger draw than Pac right now? I am missing something{which isn't unusual}

[OumaFan]

I mean Cotto's a bigger draw than JMM

[JazMerkin]

I seriously doubt Pacquaio's people are going to issue a statement (its not a magic wand anyway) urging Floyd to breach his contract with JMM.

Everyone knows this fight is going to be on the table soon assuming Floyd wins and assuming Pac wins if he even fights before that, I assume he will.

If Floyd had wanted to fight Manny in his first fight back he would have waited till the day after the Hatton fight to decide who he was going to fight. I doubt there are serious discussions to get out of the JMM fight unless the fight is doing extremely poorly economically. I don't really know how poorly its doing.

I really doubt its doing poorly enough that they would buy JMM out of his contract. It would have to have sold on a similar level to the Dawson-Tarver II fight to justify that, & as the cheaper level of tickets have all sold out (I've checked today as I was considering going over) I really doubt it's doing as badly as some people make out.

You would think its gotta do 500, 000 buys. I would think. I mean he did 300 plus vs Baldoajamu I think.

It will be interesting to see how much Pacquaio vs Cotto does in comparison. I'm sure if it does clearly more Mayweather will say Cotto was a bigger draw and I guess he'd be right. Come to think of it I don't know how I'd rank JMM on the "draw" scale. I guess not as high as he should be.

Yeah, you'd expect so, I think 750,000 will be possible once HBO gets its marketing campaign underway. I mean Marquez should be a decent draw but he's not what he deserves to be. I think it will do good numbers, I wouldn't be surprised if Pacquiao vs Cotto does better because right now Cotto is probably the biggest active draw outside of Mayweather & Pacquiao. I think the problem is that right now both Mayweather & Pacquiao think that they are the new ODLH, when in reality neither is. However, they remain the only 2 guys who could draw huge numbers, & together they could do very big business, not quite Oscar-Floyd numbers but not far off.

I don't see Cotto or Mosley as the guys that will draw your average TV fan in for either guy.