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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Althugz
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:::PSL:::
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FinitoElDinamita
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Mars_ax
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:::PSL:::
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FinitoElDinamita
This fight isn't going the distance, one way or another.. Cotto might quit on his knees again..
Cotto fought a guy with cement blocks on his knuckles when gave up. Floyd has brittle hands. Common sense dictates that you are more likely wrong with your theory there homie.
I don't see Floyd knocking out Cotto, contrary to popular belief, Mayweather is not a big puncher.
Contrary to popular belief? Nobody ever said floyd is a big puncher but one doesnt need to be a big puncher to score KOs..
Floyd's power comes from speed, timing, precision and punch placement which is more than enough to create knockouts.
punching power comes in many forms..
Lmfao! Like you've ever punched someone in your life. :p
Floyd's power comes from when his opponent choose to stop fighting and not look at him . Also known as "bitch ass sucker punch".
PSL, when Uncle Arum decides to sacrifice his little boy to Floyd I will sig bet you that Floyd will knock out Manny Pacquiao.
You will win the bet if there is any other result other than a Floyd Mayweather K.O, deal? Remember this post
:o Wow. Ballsy.
Bookmarked!!!
SURE!!!
Let's do 1 year!!!
Confirmed?
Yup, 1 year is absolutely fine for you to wear my signature.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
If any ones gonna have the last word it's ME......
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
Going back to the topic of the thread, I 'd say Mayweather by unanimous decision.
...... and Cotto is not a quitter. I also hope he wins.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Going back to the topic of the thread, I 'd say Mayweather by unanimous decision.
...... and Cotto is not a quitter. I also hope he wins.
Call me crazy, but I believe Miguel has a good shot at winning this May 5th, I may actually have to buy the PPV in HD.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
I like Mayweather to dominate. I can see Cotto getting cut up and stopped as a result of the cuts in the later rounds, or in such a hole on the cards that he throws in the towel. Cotto could also go into survival mode in the middle rounds, and end up finishing the fight with Mayweather winning almost all the rounds.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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I like Mayweather to dominate. I can see Cotto getting cut up and stopped as a result of the cuts in the later rounds, or in such a hole on the cards that he throws in the towel. Cotto could also go into survival mode in the middle rounds, and end up finishing the fight with Mayweather winning almost all the rounds.
That's more or less how I see it going as well.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
I did not read past the first page and I believe I know why my favorite of the two, Cotto will not win. It's simple, he's tired and he has been in some really grueling fights and Floyd smells blood and that's all there is to it. If Miguel gets a chip on his shoulder and is really pissed off I don't see Floyd losing. Floyd can still take a beating if we get an ill tempered relentless Cotto banging Floyd's body and violating his F***ing will. Floyd should be backed into a corner and Miguel should be prepared to punch in bunches like a sprinter during a four hundred meter race. I am allowed to dream. Floyd is really good but he needs to feel the wrath of an equally skilled slugger that is not shot or lacks the desire to bombard this ill tempered, arrogant man named Floyd Mayweather.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
Just yanking your chain, thug. I'm not gonna quit. I'm having too much fun coming in here and laughing at..... er..... I mean..... reading your latest post. Please keep up the good work. So now Margarito's wraps are "make believe", huh? Interesting. You know.... it's hard to be pissed at you. You're so laughably ignorant and "see-through" biased... it's pathetic. But instead of making me mad.... it just makes me chuckle a little bit.
Here's some free advice: Ease up once in awhile, dude. Take a deep breath..... that's it...... a deep breath..... and hold it for all eternity...... no, just kidding there. Take a deep breath, and ADMIT to your shortcomings. Really... it won't hurt. You'll be surprised to how liberating it might be. Here... I'll help you. Just say the following words out loud:
"I, Violent Demise... he of the laughable avatar which I made up 'cause I think it makes me look badass and dangerous... hereby admit that I am kinda biased toward Mexican fighters and against Puerto Rican fighters for no good reason. But I got my cool image I gotta take care of. That's why I sometimes write in short, staccato sentences. Makes me sound like a street punk. I gotta keep up my image 'cause I got a few homies here that hang on my every word. Gotta keep that edge. I know I'm wrong a lot of the time. And abrasive..... and annoying.... and exasperating..... and abusive.... and nonsensical..... but hey... it's part of my personna."
There... don't you feel a little better?
;)
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
Just yanking your chain, thug. I'm not gonna quit. I'm having too much fun coming in here and laughing at..... er..... I mean..... reading your latest post. Please keep up the good work.
So now Margarito's wraps are "make believe", huh? Interesting. You know.... it's hard to be pissed at you. You're so laughably ignorant and "see-through" biased... it's pathetic. But instead of making me mad.... it just makes me chuckle a little bit.
Here's some free advice: Ease up once in awhile, dude. Take a deep breath..... that's it...... a deep breath..... and hold it for all eternity...... no, just kidding there. Take a deep breath, and ADMIT to your shortcomings. Really... it won't hurt. You'll be surprised to how liberating it might be. Here... I'll help you. Just say the following words out loud:
"I, Violent Demise... he of the laughable avatar which I made up 'cause I think it makes me look badass and dangerous... hereby admit that I am kinda biased toward Mexican fighters and against Puerto Rican fighters for no good reason. But I got my cool image I gotta take care of. That's why I sometimes write in short, staccato sentences. Makes me sound like a street punk. I gotta keep up my image 'cause I got a few homies here that hang on my every word. Gotta keep that edge. I know I'm wrong a lot of the time. And abrasive..... and annoying.... and exasperating..... and abusive.... and nonsensical..... but hey... it's part of my personna."
There... don't you feel a
little better?
;)
All it took was one pull of the string. Last word, huh? Like I told FD he ain't going no where. He'll just go offline and practice posting. He'll try and come up with something that he thinks sounds cool in a sad, pathetic, desperate attempt to change the topic. And sure enough, here you are. With some weak, lame post that took you about 3 or 4 hours to come up with. Now lets see. Was it cool? I'm sure in your head it is. Anything to do with the thread topic included in your cool post? Of course not. Why? Cuz you have nothing. It's always someone or something else fault. Like Cotto you're a bad loser. Only difference is Cotto is only loser when he loses a fight. While you're just a loser overall. Either way excuses come out from both of you. I find it hilarious how you try and merge Margarito-Mosley and Margarito-Cotto 1 together like they were one fight. Just to blame Cotto's first quit job loss on wraps. Groupie lust at it's finest. You can call it opinion if you want. That's fine. Everybody knows you're not the brightest muthafukka around. But it's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Nevada commission which is light years ahead in experience than the clueless California commission checked and clear Margarito's wraps. Like i told you countless times. Facts don't lie. And I only deal in facts
Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in July 2008 win over Cotto
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
Just yanking your chain, thug. I'm not gonna quit. I'm having too much fun coming in here and laughing at..... er..... I mean..... reading your latest post. Please keep up the good work.
So now Margarito's wraps are "make believe", huh? Interesting. You know.... it's hard to be pissed at you. You're so laughably ignorant and "see-through" biased... it's pathetic. But instead of making me mad.... it just makes me chuckle a little bit.
Here's some free advice: Ease up once in awhile, dude. Take a deep breath..... that's it...... a deep breath..... and hold it for all eternity...... no, just kidding there. Take a deep breath, and ADMIT to your shortcomings. Really... it won't hurt. You'll be surprised to how liberating it might be. Here... I'll help you. Just say the following words out loud:
"I, Violent Demise... he of the laughable avatar which I made up 'cause I think it makes me look badass and dangerous... hereby admit that I am kinda biased toward Mexican fighters and against Puerto Rican fighters for no good reason. But I got my cool image I gotta take care of. That's why I sometimes write in short, staccato sentences. Makes me sound like a street punk. I gotta keep up my image 'cause I got a few homies here that hang on my every word. Gotta keep that edge. I know I'm wrong a lot of the time. And abrasive..... and annoying.... and exasperating..... and abusive.... and nonsensical..... but hey... it's part of my personna."
There... don't you feel a
little better?
;)
All it took was one pull of the string. Last word, huh? Like I told FD he ain't going no where. He'll just go offline and practice posting. He'll try and come up with something that he thinks sounds cool in a sad, pathetic, desperate attempt to change the topic. And sure enough, here you are. With some weak, lame post that took you about 3 or 4 hours to come up with. Now lets see. Was it cool? I'm sure in your head it is. Anything to do with the thread topic included in your cool post? Of course not. Why? Cuz you have nothing. It's always someone or something else fault. Like Cotto you're a bad loser. Only difference is Cotto is only loser when he loses a fight. While you're just a loser overall. Either way excuses come out from both of you. I find it hilarious how you try and merge Margarito-Mosley and Margarito-Cotto 1 together like they were one fight. Just to blame Cotto's first quit job loss on wraps. Groupie lust at it's finest. You can call it opinion if you want. That's fine. Everybody knows you're not the brightest muthafukka around. But it's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Nevada commission which is light years ahead in experience than the clueless California commission checked and clear Margarito's wraps. Like i told you countless times. Facts don't lie. And I only deal in facts
Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in July 2008 win over Cotto
Sorry to get in on this but the link kinda proves more how stupid the commission is. sure they do check the wraps alot but when it comes down to it, it wasn't any one from the commission that saw there was something wrong with the raps. it was Mosleys trainer who had figured it all out. I'm not puerto rican so don't think I am. but I honestly feel margarito was cought cheating and after seeing the diffrence in his punching power after the Cotto fight and everything after it should make you understand just on that alone. The guy hasn't beat any one only one person who also was a nobody and still a close fight I heard. I just don't see how any one would back him up. Anyways that's how I see it.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Abelardus
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
Just yanking your chain, thug. I'm not gonna quit. I'm having too much fun coming in here and laughing at..... er..... I mean..... reading your latest post. Please keep up the good work.
So now Margarito's wraps are "make believe", huh? Interesting. You know.... it's hard to be pissed at you. You're so laughably ignorant and "see-through" biased... it's pathetic. But instead of making me mad.... it just makes me chuckle a little bit.
Here's some free advice: Ease up once in awhile, dude. Take a deep breath..... that's it...... a deep breath..... and hold it for all eternity...... no, just kidding there. Take a deep breath, and ADMIT to your shortcomings. Really... it won't hurt. You'll be surprised to how liberating it might be. Here... I'll help you. Just say the following words out loud:
"I, Violent Demise... he of the laughable avatar which I made up 'cause I think it makes me look badass and dangerous... hereby admit that I am kinda biased toward Mexican fighters and against Puerto Rican fighters for no good reason. But I got my cool image I gotta take care of. That's why I sometimes write in short, staccato sentences. Makes me sound like a street punk. I gotta keep up my image 'cause I got a few homies here that hang on my every word. Gotta keep that edge. I know I'm wrong a lot of the time. And abrasive..... and annoying.... and exasperating..... and abusive.... and nonsensical..... but hey... it's part of my personna."
There... don't you feel a
little better?
;)
All it took was one pull of the string. Last word, huh? Like I told FD he ain't going no where. He'll just go offline and practice posting. He'll try and come up with something that he thinks sounds cool in a sad, pathetic, desperate attempt to change the topic. And sure enough, here you are. With some weak, lame post that took you about 3 or 4 hours to come up with. Now lets see. Was it cool? I'm sure in your head it is. Anything to do with the thread topic included in your cool post? Of course not. Why? Cuz you have nothing. It's always someone or something else fault. Like Cotto you're a bad loser. Only difference is Cotto is only loser when he loses a fight. While you're just a loser overall. Either way excuses come out from both of you. I find it hilarious how you try and merge Margarito-Mosley and Margarito-Cotto 1 together like they were one fight. Just to blame Cotto's first quit job loss on wraps. Groupie lust at it's finest. You can call it opinion if you want. That's fine. Everybody knows you're not the brightest muthafukka around. But it's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Nevada commission which is light years ahead in experience than the clueless California commission checked and clear Margarito's wraps. Like i told you countless times. Facts don't lie. And I only deal in facts
Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in July 2008 win over Cotto
Sorry to get in on this but the link kinda proves more how stupid the commission is. sure they do check the wraps alot but when it comes down to it, it wasn't any one from the commission that saw there was something wrong with the raps. it was Mosleys trainer who had figured it all out. I'm not puerto rican so don't think I am. but I honestly feel margarito was cought cheating and after seeing the diffrence in his punching power after the Cotto fight and everything after it should make you understand just on that alone. The guy hasn't beat any one only one person who also was a nobody and still a close fight I heard. I just don't see how any one would back him up. Anyways that's how I see it.
You do realize the Nevada commission went as far as feeling the wraps and found nothing wrong, right? You can't compare the Nevada commission to the California commission. It's like comparing a pro boxer to an amateur boxer.
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
Just yanking your chain, thug. I'm not gonna quit. I'm having too much fun coming in here and laughing at..... er..... I mean..... reading your latest post. Please keep up the good work.
So now Margarito's wraps are "make believe", huh? Interesting. You know.... it's hard to be pissed at you. You're so laughably ignorant and "see-through" biased... it's pathetic. But instead of making me mad.... it just makes me chuckle a little bit.
Here's some free advice: Ease up once in awhile, dude. Take a deep breath..... that's it...... a deep breath..... and hold it for all eternity...... no, just kidding there. Take a deep breath, and ADMIT to your shortcomings. Really... it won't hurt. You'll be surprised to how liberating it might be. Here... I'll help you. Just say the following words out loud:
"I, Violent Demise... he of the laughable avatar which I made up 'cause I think it makes me look badass and dangerous... hereby admit that I am kinda biased toward Mexican fighters and against Puerto Rican fighters for no good reason. But I got my cool image I gotta take care of. That's why I sometimes write in short, staccato sentences. Makes me sound like a street punk. I gotta keep up my image 'cause I got a few homies here that hang on my every word. Gotta keep that edge. I know I'm wrong a lot of the time. And abrasive..... and annoying.... and exasperating..... and abusive.... and nonsensical..... but hey... it's part of my personna."
There... don't you feel a
little better?
;)
All it took was one pull of the string. Last word, huh? Like I told FD he ain't going no where. He'll just go offline and practice posting. He'll try and come up with something that he thinks sounds cool in a sad, pathetic, desperate attempt to change the topic. And sure enough, here you are. With some weak, lame post that took you about 3 or 4 hours to come up with. Now lets see. Was it cool? I'm sure in your head it is. Anything to do with the thread topic included in your cool post? Of course not. Why? Cuz you have nothing. It's always someone or something else fault. Like Cotto you're a bad loser. Only difference is Cotto is only loser when he loses a fight. While you're just a loser overall. Either way excuses come out from both of you. I find it hilarious how you try and merge Margarito-Mosley and Margarito-Cotto 1 together like they were one fight. Just to blame Cotto's first quit job loss on wraps. Groupie lust at it's finest. You can call it opinion if you want. That's fine. Everybody knows you're not the brightest muthafukka around. But it's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Nevada commission which is light years ahead in experience than the clueless California commission checked and clear Margarito's wraps. Like i told you countless times. Facts don't lie. And I only deal in facts
Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in July 2008 win over Cotto
Sorry to get in on this but the link kinda proves more how stupid the commission is. sure they do check the wraps alot but when it comes down to it, it wasn't any one from the commission that saw there was something wrong with the raps. it was Mosleys trainer who had figured it all out. I'm not puerto rican so don't think I am. but I honestly feel margarito was cought cheating and after seeing the diffrence in his punching power after the Cotto fight and everything after it should make you understand just on that alone. The guy hasn't beat any one only one person who also was a nobody and still a close fight I heard. I just don't see how any one would back him up. Anyways that's how I see it.
You do realize the Nevada commission went as far as feeling the wraps and found nothing wrong, right? You can't compare the Nevada commission to the California commission. It's like comparing a pro boxer to an amateur boxer.
Yea but what they found with Mosley was a substance that hardened when wet. Which Means its possible it hardened during the Cotto fight. Like I said before look at the diffrence of margaritos punches befor the mosley fight and the punches during and after..... BIG DIFFRENCE in power my friend.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
Margarito got caught trying to cheat before the Mosley fight. How can anyone positively clear Margarito of any wrongdoing in the Cotto fight, which had already happened? Why would Margarito only start cheating against Mosley after "never having done so before"? These are all valid questions. The immediate and extensive damage to Cotto's face is a pretty good clue that is wasn't just due to volume of punches. Sure Cotto has been cut before... but this was far beyond any of those times. And like has already been said... Margarito's power "post-Mosley" has proven to be way off. Who knows how many other fights he won using those plaster casts? And when Margarito had Cotto in front of him again... and PROMISED to knock him out so everyone could see it wasn't the plaster casts.... he didn't. He hit Cotto enough that had it been just his power the 1st time around... he would've knocked him out in the 2nd fight also.
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Margarito got caught trying to cheat before the Mosley fight. How can anyone positively clear Margarito of any wrongdoing in the Cotto fight, which had already happened? Why would Margarito only start cheating against Mosley after "never having done so before"? These are all valid questions. The immediate and extensive damage to Cotto's face is a pretty good clue that is wasn't just due to volume of punches. Sure Cotto has been cut before... but this was far beyond any of those times. And like has already been said... Margarito's power "post-Mosley" has proven to be way off. Who knows how many other fights he won using those plaster casts? And when Margarito had Cotto in front of him again... and PROMISED to knock him out so everyone could see it wasn't the plaster casts.... he didn't. He hit Cotto enough that had it been just his power the 1st time around... he would've knocked him out in the 2nd fight also.
so you want to say that in 47 fights Margarito has used plaster more then once ? You say it as if putting plaster in your wraps and getting away with it more then once is an easy thing to do. I doubt he would get away with it. Even if the commission doesn't see it the other fighters trainer would don't you think ?
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When an athlete is caught cheating, they should not be given the benefit of the doubt that it was the first time that they have cheated. They should get the benefit of the doubt that they have achieved those previous victories because of cheating.
This should apply to boxing since cheating shows a high disregard for the well-being of a fellow boxer and can bring substantial injury, even death, to the opponent.
I am not even mentioning any boxer's name in here so as not to make this post look bias.
Btw, why did this thread shift to Margarito? ........... oppps!!!
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When an athlete is caught cheating, they should not be given the benefit of the doubt that it was the first time that they have cheated. They should get the benefit of the doubt that they have achieved those previous victories because of cheating.
This should apply to boxing since cheating shows a high disregard for the well-being of a fellow boxer and can bring substantial injury, even death, to the opponent.
I am not even mentioning any boxer's name in here so as not to make this post look bias.
Btw, why did this thread shift to Margarito? ........... oppps!!!
It shifted cause someone said Cotto would quit like before and Tito's feelings got hurt so he decided to bring up how Margarito could have used loaded gloves when he defeated Cotto
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There's some truth to it. But it's irrelevant. And you make yourself look like a fool by even bringing it up. More than you usually do. Think about it. The man went into the biggest fight of his career without a legit trainer. Who's fucking fault was that? Nobody but his fucking own. There is no excuse for him not having one. And there is no way it can be used as an excuse. Cotto was not some green rookie who had just turned pro. He was a vet with multiple championship fights to his name. He had a back up plan. He didn't execute it cuz the PR in him kicked in and he decided to quit instead.
Once an asshole always an asshole. Reasoning is wasted on you. You spout your shit and constantly piss off the good people in this forum. AND... you've got your intimidated groupies with no thoughts of their own, who must worship the bullshit avatar you insist on having next to your name.
Get back to me when you have something intelligent to say, asswipe.
Yes the cold hard truth usually does hurt. Which is why instead of taking it like a man you go to the insults. Whatever. It don't bother me none. But I ain't the one to blame for your anger. You got 2 people for that. Your idol Cotto, for being a quitter. And your own dumb ass, You set yourself up by saying stupid, moronic shit like this
"Don't you understand that Cotto did not have a sound game plan against Pacquaio? You DO understand that he was in there with basically a non-entity of a trainer"
Like that even fucking matters. It doesn't. If the man wants to go into the biggest fight of his career with some clown posing as a trainer than fine. Let him. That's his own stupidity. The fact that you're pathetic enough to actually try and use it as an excuse shows you're the definition of a groupie.
Whatever dude. You consider Cotto a "quitter" 'cause you're a hater. You got no real arguments. You "back up" your pronouncements with questionable "logic", which is really a word I should not use with you. It's really not logic at all. Anyone who professes to know what's in a particular fighter's mind either has a degree in psychology, or is a delusional hater. You are the latter. You have your little followers... but those don't count... 'cause they got no thoughts of their own. But hell... you're allowed your opinion, no matter how illogical and based on hate and bias it may be. We've beat this one to death... and I got no desire to continue trading insults with you. Fact... you might even say I'm "quitting." Go ahead.... have the last word, you little thug you.
;)
Soon as I saw your location, you quitting was always gonna be the final outcome. It's in your nature. You nothing but a coward ass, yellow groupie. The lengths you go to make excuses for your sweetheart Cotto losing proves what I'm saying about you is true. It's either some make believe wraps or Cotto's clown trainer that are to blame for his losses. Cotto getting his ass kicked had nothing to do with it, right?
Just yanking your chain, thug. I'm not gonna quit. I'm having too much fun coming in here and laughing at..... er..... I mean..... reading your latest post. Please keep up the good work.
So now Margarito's wraps are "make believe", huh? Interesting. You know.... it's hard to be pissed at you. You're so laughably ignorant and "see-through" biased... it's pathetic. But instead of making me mad.... it just makes me chuckle a little bit.
Here's some free advice: Ease up once in awhile, dude. Take a deep breath..... that's it...... a deep breath..... and hold it for all eternity...... no, just kidding there. Take a deep breath, and ADMIT to your shortcomings. Really... it won't hurt. You'll be surprised to how liberating it might be. Here... I'll help you. Just say the following words out loud:
"I, Violent Demise... he of the laughable avatar which I made up 'cause I think it makes me look badass and dangerous... hereby admit that I am kinda biased toward Mexican fighters and against Puerto Rican fighters for no good reason. But I got my cool image I gotta take care of. That's why I sometimes write in short, staccato sentences. Makes me sound like a street punk. I gotta keep up my image 'cause I got a few homies here that hang on my every word. Gotta keep that edge. I know I'm wrong a lot of the time. And abrasive..... and annoying.... and exasperating..... and abusive.... and nonsensical..... but hey... it's part of my personna."
There... don't you feel a
little better?
;)
All it took was one pull of the string. Last word, huh? Like I told FD he ain't going no where. He'll just go offline and practice posting. He'll try and come up with something that he thinks sounds cool in a sad, pathetic, desperate attempt to change the topic. And sure enough, here you are. With some weak, lame post that took you about 3 or 4 hours to come up with. Now lets see. Was it cool? I'm sure in your head it is. Anything to do with the thread topic included in your cool post? Of course not. Why? Cuz you have nothing. It's always someone or something else fault. Like Cotto you're a bad loser. Only difference is Cotto is only loser when he loses a fight. While you're just a loser overall. Either way excuses come out from both of you. I find it hilarious how you try and merge Margarito-Mosley and Margarito-Cotto 1 together like they were one fight. Just to blame Cotto's first quit job loss on wraps. Groupie lust at it's finest. You can call it opinion if you want. That's fine. Everybody knows you're not the brightest muthafukka around. But it's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Nevada commission which is light years ahead in experience than the clueless California commission checked and clear Margarito's wraps. Like i told you countless times. Facts don't lie. And I only deal in facts
Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in July 2008 win over Cotto
Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger. :argue:
Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one. :willydance:
I'll volunteer to be the judge. ;D :camera:
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Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger. :argue:
Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one. :willydance:
I'll volunteer be the judge. ;D :camera:
He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear
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Yea but what they found with Mosley was a substance that hardened when wet. Which Means its possible it hardened during the Cotto fight. Like I said before look at the diffrence of margaritos punches befor the mosley fight and the punches during and after..... BIG DIFFRENCE in power my friend.
You must be new to the sport. So I'm gonna cut you some slack. You just looking at the final results and forming your opinion off that. You need to watch the actual fights to get the whole story. Margarito has had 3 fights since the Mosley fight and after serving his year suspension. His first fight was against a club fighter named Roberto Garcia. After being out of the ring for 16 months Margarito was looking to get some rounds in. Margarito dropped him in the 1st and won every single round. And despite Garcia never being stopped before in his career it's pretty obvious Margarito could of stopped him if really wanted to and opened up. The 2nd fight was the Pac fight. When you move like a glacier, speed is a killer. Pacquiao speed almost killed him. Bad style's match up. But even than Pacquiao himself admitted Margarito hurt him a couple times. 3rd fight is the Cotto remastch. Cotto ran more than he fought. That's a poor example to use as evidence. Another thing you forgetting is wear and tear. Margatito smashed Cotto in there first fight. But it wasn't easy. He took his share of punishment that night. He took nothing but punishment against Mosley. And the Williams, Clottey and Cintron fights weren't easy. Margarito not stopping people like before is due to him being an aged, declined fighrer. Not wraps.
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Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger. :argue:
Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one. :willydance:
I'll volunteer be the judge. ;D :camera:
He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear
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Yea but what they found with Mosley was a substance that hardened when wet. Which Means its possible it hardened during the Cotto fight. Like I said before look at the diffrence of margaritos punches befor the mosley fight and the punches during and after..... BIG DIFFRENCE in power my friend.
You must be new to the sport. So I'm gonna cut you some slack. You just looking at the final results and forming your opinion off that. You need to watch the actual fights to get the whole story. Margarito has had 3 fights since the Mosley fight and after serving his year suspension. His first fight was against a club fighter named Roberto Garcia. After being out of the ring for 16 months Margarito was looking to get some rounds in. Margarito dropped him in the 1st and won every single round. And despite Garcia never being stopped before in his career it's pretty obvious Margarito could of stopped him if really wanted to and opened up. The 2nd fight was the Pac fight. When you move like a glacier, speed is a killer. Pacquiao speed almost killed him. Bad style's match up. But even than Pacquiao himself admitted Margarito hurt him a couple times. 3rd fight is the Cotto remastch. Cotto ran more than he fought. That's a poor example to use as evidence. Another thing you forgetting is wear and tear. Margatito smashed Cotto in there first fight. But it wasn't easy. He took his share of punishment that night. He took nothing but punishment against Mosley. And the Williams, Clottey and Cintron fights weren't easy. Margarito not stopping people like before is due to him being an aged, declined fighrer. Not wraps.
You remember him as a knight in shining armor and I'll remember him as a cheat.
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Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger. :argue:
Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one. :willydance:
I'll volunteer to be the judge. ;D :camera:
Aww... I'm just having a little fun. I stopped taking VD seriously a few dozen posts ago.
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It's entertaining to watch VD an Tito bust each other's balls all the time but both dudes are cool in my eyes so I dont get this Latino on Latino violence..
Just wondering VD... U bang?? And u havent forgot about our Morales-Garcia bet right??? $75 dollas...
Garcia is gonna fuck Morales up... This is the end for him...
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Cotto knock's down Mayweather in the 4th, Mayweather goes on from there not losing a round after.
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It's entertaining to watch VD an Tito bust each other's balls all the time but both dudes are cool in my eyes so I dont get this Latino on Latino violence..
Just wondering VD... U bang?? And u havent forgot about our Morales-Garcia bet right??? $75 dollas...
Garcia is gonna fuck Morales up... This is the end for him...
Long time ago. And I don't forget. Just remember you got Garcia.
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Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
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Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
Wow that would be a serious diffrence considering Floyd's gloves are usually puffy and fat. Where did you hear this?
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Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
Kind of an odd thing. I don't really understand Mayweather's position that he wants 8 oz? He had the postion of wanting 10oz and fight at 154lbs against Pacquiao. With a his hostory of hand problems one would think he'd like the extra padding.
Anyone know if the commission just weighs the gloves, supplies the gloves or checks to see if there is a correct amount of layers and type of padding over the fist? I would think it's easy for the manufacture to add weight just about anywhere if someone wanted a custom glove. I would also think that the different manufactures each have thier own padding methods around the fist and different methods of balancing a gloves weight depending on the hand size. I've seen written descriptions about gloves in the rules write up but never anything that details specific material and padding layer requirements for the different size gloves. Only general statements.
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Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
Wow that would be a serious diffrence considering Floyd's gloves are usually puffy and fat. Where did you hear this?
It was on boxingscene. Apparently Floyd feels a little resentful for having to wear what he called "heavyweight gloves" vs De la Hoya and I guess he thinks he could have done better with smaller gloves.
All I can tell you is Cotto is a BRUTAL puncher with smaller gloves, look at his opponents at 140-147, they constantly had damage from those big left hooks.
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Not making any excuses for Miguel but his skin pretty much tears up here pretty fast, but I do believe he is nowhere near getting dazed or stunned here, he can take PBF's shots. I do hope its a firefight that's Cotto's only chance:)
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I've also heard the 8oz glove rumour and if it's true then I think Floyd is gunning for a KO win here.
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I've also heard the 8oz glove rumour and if it's true then I think Floyd is gunning for a KO win here.
That and maybe Cotto breaks a hand on Floyd's hip or shoulder. Cotto WILL have difficulty with the speed of Mayweather, but he's game, he's rugged, and I think it will be an easier style for Cotto to handle when you compare it to the Pacquiao style as there won't be as many awkward angles, but that said there's going to be less space to hit Floyd clean because he's a very slick fighter.
This is a tough fight for Cotto, but he CAN pull off the win, he's still a good boxer, still very dangerous, and he's younger than Floyd, he's seen Floyd before vs his friend Bruseles...this is going to be a card I buy because of this fight, but also Canelo-Mosley which could also end in an upset.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
Cotto chances are slim. I don't think he has the tools for the job. Maybe his best chance is to try and get all over mayweather, but still, thats the flawed strategy that most of mayweathers previous opponents tried.
The best tool he's got is is jab, which is ramrod and well timed. His left hook is good but mayweather's philly shell puts a dampener these punches. in fact left hooks are liability against mayweather as he counters so well off of them.
So how does cotto have a good chance, other than a punchers chance?
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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I've also heard the 8oz glove rumour and if it's true then I think Floyd is gunning for a KO win here.
That and maybe Cotto breaks a hand on Floyd's hip or shoulder. Cotto WILL have difficulty with the speed of Mayweather, but he's game, he's rugged, and I think it will be an easier style for Cotto to handle when you compare it to the Pacquiao style as there won't be as many awkward angles, but that said there's going to be less space to hit Floyd clean because he's a very slick fighter.
This is a tough fight for Cotto, but he CAN pull off the win, he's still a good boxer, still very dangerous, and he's younger than Floyd, he's seen Floyd before vs his friend Bruseles...this is going to be a card I buy because of this fight, but also Canelo-Mosley which could also end in an upset.
Definitely agree with that. Looking forward to it.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
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Cotto chances are slim. I don't think he has the tools for the job. Maybe his best chance is to try and get all over mayweather, but still, thats the flawed strategy that most of mayweathers previous opponents tried.
The best tool he's got is is jab, which is ramrod and well timed. His left hook is good but mayweather's philly shell puts a dampener these punches. in fact left hooks are liability against mayweather as he counters so well off of them.
So how does cotto have a good chance, other than a punchers chance?
1. Use the jab - De la Hoya had great success with his jab, Cotto used it well vs Mosley. The timing of the jab nullifies speed.
2. Land the hook often - work the body, work the arms, the shoulder, hips, everything. Miguel has a powerful punch, one powerful enough to break jaws, one powerful enough to stop a fighter with a shot to the shoulder. Working to the body takes the legs away, working on the guard takes the defense and speed away....after that Floyd may be downright normal if all goes to plan.
3. Make Floyd forget the right hand - Cotto can switch up and has big power in both hands...if he switches southpaw and can blast a right hook in and make contact then great, if he can lull Floyd into range and time a solid right cross from an orthodox stance even better...but Floyd must be more wary of the left hook than the right hand in order for Cotto to catch him offguard.
No doubt it's an uphill battle for Cotto, but he's a warrior, he has heart
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
I told you - Floyd is looking for the K.O. in this one. Floyd's biggest chip on his shoulder is outdoing Manny Pacquiao.
He shut out Marquez to prove a point to Pacquiao and he will want a Gatti type performance against Cotto to say "Anything you can do, I can do better!" - He has already made sure the fight is up at 154 instead of catchweight.
My prediction remains. Floyd by K.O but he will be surprised by Cotto's skills/timing/speed early on. The K.O will be quite late once he has adapted. (but sooner than the 12th otherwise it's not as good as Pacquiao's)
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Apparently Floyd wants 8oz gloves not 10oz gloves....that may make Floyd have quicker hands, but a little less defense and IMO it makes Cotto's punches harder
Wow that would be a serious diffrence considering Floyd's gloves are usually puffy and fat. Where did you hear this?
It was on boxingscene. Apparently Floyd feels a little resentful for having to wear what he called "heavyweight gloves" vs De la Hoya and I guess he thinks he could have done better with smaller gloves.
All I can tell you is Cotto is a BRUTAL puncher with smaller gloves, look at his opponents at 140-147, they constantly had damage from those big left hooks.
Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather
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Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather
OK....so you just think from 1 to 12 this is a total shutout? I think Cotto matches up fairly well, he'll at least give it a solid go for 5 rounds before he starts slowing down however the fight is going....I would be shocked if Floyd got to him any earlier. Floyd could be making a big mistake by not having a catchweight, believing Cotto's best is past him, and not trusting that Cotto is a solid BOXER as well as power puncher. Cotto has been hit with a lot before and always fought on...Floyd will have to wear him down make him chase, and coounter him. Cotto has been stopped 2 times once vs a cheater with loaded wraps and second at a catchweight and sans trainer. Cotto still has Pedro Diaz, a well respected trainer who really helped him do a number on Margarito...you never can tell when a fighter can get a second wind in his career.
Just because Cotto doesn't attack the body as aggressively as before doesn't mean he lacks power. Power and timing are key for Cotto...he will be outsped and be fighting a guy with better stamina, but he can change all that with a few punches. If Cotto hurts Floyd like Mosley and Zab did there WILL be a knockdown and perhaps a knockout.
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Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather
OK....so you just think from 1 to 12 this is a total shutout? I think Cotto matches up fairly well, he'll at least give it a solid go for 5 rounds before he starts slowing down however the fight is going....I would be shocked if Floyd got to him any earlier. Floyd could be making a big mistake by not having a catchweight, believing Cotto's best is past him, and not trusting that Cotto is a solid BOXER as well as power puncher. Cotto has been hit with a lot before and always fought on...Floyd will have to wear him down make him chase, and coounter him. Cotto has been stopped 2 times once vs a cheater with loaded wraps and second at a catchweight and sans trainer. Cotto still has Pedro Diaz, a well respected trainer who really helped him do a number on Margarito...you never can tell when a fighter can get a second wind in his career.
Just because Cotto doesn't attack the body as aggressively as before doesn't mean he lacks power. Power and timing are key for Cotto...he will be outsped and be fighting a guy with better stamina, but he can change all that with a few punches. If Cotto hurts Floyd like Mosley and Zab did there WILL be a knockdown and perhaps a knockout.
I think the body attack is a moot point anyway. Floyd has been in with good body punchers before and it didn't matter a single bit. Hatton got worked inside and out. I think people think because Castillo had success against a Floyd with a torn rotator cuff, that it must be the blueprint to beat him. Truth is Floyd is never phased by body punchers and anybody who tries gets countered up top anyway and soon decide that a body attack is a bad idea.
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Re: Mayweather Vs Cotto Predictions
Floyd picks shots off with his arms and shoulders....I'm telling you Cotto has stopped a guy with a punch to the shoulder. Miguel Cotto has the power to make an impact on how Floyd decides to fight...it's just a matter of getting the punches to the target on time
