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Mayweather is right to make every fighter he faces take the test
Khan was just singing floyds praises there on ringside saying he now knows why floyd insists on it,
It is common in boxing
Am gutted this fight isn't happening
Think we can all agree Khans fights are always a good watch. Even though I love it when he gets beat.
Typical English prick
Complete prick
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Glinchdogg
Mayweather is right to make every fighter he faces take the test
Khan was just singing floyds praises there on ringside saying he now knows why floyd insists on it,
It is common in boxing
Am gutted this fight isn't happening
Think we can all agree Khans fights are always a good watch. Even though I love it when he gets beat.
Typical English prick
Complete prick
Whats a typical English prick?
:toff:
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Khan is over stating his case about how heavy Peterson was for the first fight and that the fight should be a no contest and that he should have his titles back. He is trying to turn back time and make people forget that he lost the fight.
I think it is going to work.
It's a banned substance, he knew it, everyone knew it, they just thought they would get away with it. Khan is doing what you would expect Khan to do, scream like a bratty girl and demand he got his status back.
Whether or not it should be banned is a different question. The fact is he knocked back loads of different supplements and pills and shakes when training. It's all chemically boosting stuff, topping up your mojo doesn't suddenly make you invincible.
I always picture Floyd hanging out with 50 Cent and the gang getting stoned. Not sure how he gets away with not getting caught smoking spliffs!
I do not think Floyd smokes any substances.
Nope me neither. I'm joking.
It's probably heroin.
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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
Haha I hope this shows how utterly ridiculous the Nevada state commisions drug testing is. I can not believe more people didn't give Team Pac more hell when they were trying to avoid it with excuses like "nobody is bigger than the sport, we'll do what the commision says". Pathetic.
As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range?
It's made even more ridiculous that he would probably be allowed to supplement with things like Tribulus and ZMA to increase testosterone just because they are over the counter supplements.
The Nevada State Athletic commission is a Government organization. It's by far the best commission in boxing imo but it's not really possible for them to capably test for synthetic testosterone which is why they have absolutely embraced outside organizations handling drug testing. It's not exactly cheap and I don't know about Nevada, but California tests onsite. That means they are using their own equipment and administrators, paid for by the state to handle fighter testing. I would imagine Nevada is the same. A government organization probably isn't going to spend millions of dollars to test for HGH (which can be done now) and synthetic testosterone. It's the same lab they are processing post office workers' samples! They test for the big 5 street drugs and than a small assortment of steroids. That's about it. No reason to bash on the NSAC, they do a great job but even they would concede (I would imagine) that this is best handled by a third party.
Shame, shame, shame on Peterson. Stupid. I was really, really looking forward to the rematch too and I am a big fan of both Petersons.
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I'm not bashing the NSAC - truth is though, that in a sport like boxing, their tests fall pathetically short.
My main gripe is how people used the NSAC to safeguard Pac when the excuses were flying thick and fast about why Floyds demands were ridiculous "rules are rules - Floyd isn't bigger than the sport blah blah".
Just pure redundant arguements proven by this Khan vs Peterson fiasco.
It costs more money for random, comprehensive drug tests but in the long-term every commisions interest should be to safeguard the fighters that bring in such a healthy income to their state, especially Nevada. They'd lose more money long term by NOT safeguarding their fighters if something goes wrong.
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Althugz
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
Haha I hope this shows how utterly ridiculous the Nevada state commisions drug testing is. I can not believe more people didn't give Team Pac more hell when they were trying to avoid it with excuses like "nobody is bigger than the sport, we'll do what the commision says". Pathetic.
As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range?
It's made even more ridiculous that he would probably be allowed to supplement with things like Tribulus and ZMA to increase testosterone just because they are over the counter supplements.
Here's the rub, you ARE permitted to supplement with testosterone, you just need to disclose it to the commission so it can be independently verified that you are low.
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Althugz
I'm not bashing the NSAC - truth is though, that in a sport like boxing, their tests fall pathetically short.
My main gripe is how people used the NSAC to safeguard Pac when the excuses were flying thick and fast about why Floyds demands were ridiculous "rules are rules - Floyd isn't bigger than the sport blah blah".
Just pure redundant arguements proven by this Khan vs Peterson fiasco.
It costs more money for random, comprehensive drug tests but in the long-term every commisions interest should be to safeguard the fighters that bring in such a healthy income to their state, especially Nevada. They'd lose more money long term by NOT safeguarding their fighters if something goes wrong.
I'm a little surprised Flyod hasn't made a bigger deal about Peterson's failed test. One would think he would be all over it. It seems like the perfect opportunity for Floyd to point out the flaws of the current drug testing. Now that I think about it, has Floyd ever stated that the Nevada testing is inadequate? Or has he tiptoed around criticizing the Nevada Commission? Do you think Floyd's reaction would have been different if Khan had failed the test? ;)
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People that cheat in sport's find more sophisticated way's to cheat it's a war keeping one step ahead,
of not being caught. If they can getaway with it they will we are talking about a professional sport's
man here, he's taking the piss I'm sorry I was stupid so if you act fuck in gormless you get away with murder. Do any of you lot remember Jackanory you do it starts next week guest stories by L Peterson.;D
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Armyash I apologise for that
Not all english are like that
A just don't like how big headed he is or the English mentality regarding sports
Constantly bigging themselves up and always fail
The media don't help the case either
Am Scottish so you know the banter
David price looks good and will be a world champ some day
Haye is another example he should keep his mouth shut and fight
Only yesterday was he talking Bout jumping on boxers heads unreal
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Armyash I apologise for that
Not all english are like that
A just don't like how big headed he is or the English mentality regarding sports
Constantly bigging themselves up and always fail
The media don't help the case either
Am Scottish so you know the banter
David price looks good and will be a world champ some day
Haye is another example he should keep his mouth shut and fight
Only yesterday was he talking Bout jumping on boxers heads unreal
Your just upset because you only have Burns.
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1 more than we've had in years mate
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@Rantcatrat Floyd hasn't said anything because ironically his uncle Roger said before Petersons misdemeanor was made public, that the reason Khan lost the first fight was because he wasn't using banned substances. He accused Khan of being afraid of being caught and consequently being exposed by Peterson when he didn't have the advantage of using what he called "that shit". I thought maybe Roger was a bit classier than his brother Floyd senior, now I am not so sure
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Rantcatrat Floyd hasn't said anything because ironically his uncle Roger said before Petersons misdemeanor was made public, that the reason Khan lost the first fight was because he wasn't using banned substances. He accused Khan of being afraid of being caught and consequently being exposed by Peterson when he didn't have the advantage of using what he called "that shit". I thought maybe Roger was a bit classier than his brother Floyd senior, now I am not so sure
@Greenbeanz - I vaguely remembered someone in Floyd's camp saying something disparaging about Khan implying that he used ped's, which is why it is ironic that it was Peterson that was the one using the banned substance.
Still, I would assume Floyd would use this as an opportunity to make his point about testing boxers. It's odd that he isn't.
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I'm not bashing the NSAC - truth is though, that in a sport like boxing, their tests fall pathetically short.
My main gripe is how people used the NSAC to safeguard Pac when the excuses were flying thick and fast about why Floyds demands were ridiculous "rules are rules - Floyd isn't bigger than the sport blah blah".
Just pure redundant arguements proven by this Khan vs Peterson fiasco.
It costs more money for random, comprehensive drug tests but in the long-term every commisions interest should be to safeguard the fighters that bring in such a healthy income to their state, especially Nevada. They'd lose more money long term by NOT safeguarding their fighters if something goes wrong.
Or has he tiptoed around criticizing the Nevada Commission? Do you think Floyd's reaction would have been different if Khan had failed the test? ;)
I doubt it's high on his priority list right now as he prepares to be locked up..and he's just come out of a fairly gruelling fight. I think boxing is the furthest thing from his mind at this point whether it was Khan who failed it or Peterson. Let's just say that I think he'd have more "motivation" to give an opinion if Khan had been caught ;)
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I notice that Khan has only said that he's disappointed and was ready to win back his belts etc. Not a word of criticism towards Peterson for using Peds:scratchchin: Why wouldn't he at least mention if not condemn Peterson, if he hadn't used them himself? It's not as though he is reserved about anything else, I just find it odd.
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I notice that Khan has only said that he's disappointed and was ready to win back his belts etc. Not a word of criticism towards Peterson for using Peds:scratchchin: Why wouldn't he at least mention if not condemn Peterson, if he hadn't used them himself? It's not as though he is reserved about anything else, I just find it odd.
You are reading too much into it. He has called Peterson a cheat, that says it all.
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Khan has been very vocal in his support for Floyd and his testing.
It would not suprise if when Pac and then probably Freddie retire, Khan at some point in his career ends up under Mayweather promotions.
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I notice that Khan has only said that he's disappointed and was ready to win back his belts etc. Not a word of criticism towards Peterson for using Peds:scratchchin: Why wouldn't he at least mention if not condemn Peterson, if he hadn't used them himself? It's not as though he is reserved about anything else, I just find it odd.
I've heard him be critical of Peterson. He's been vocal about more stringent testing. He also submitted to the VADA testing without any question. It's the wrong angle, to suspect Khan, when Peterson has been found doing something against the rules. 'Bad for boxing' | Sky Sports | Shows | Ringside
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I can never see Khan as a user of any illegal substances, most people just see that he spent so much time with Pac they get trained by the same trainer well floyd thinks pac's a user so khan must be too.
IMO i would say Khan is as clean as they come, he has been through olympic style testing before and has never showed any problems with taking tests and on top of that he's never failed a test evr..
on top of this he is a muslim, he doesnt drink, he starves minself for ramadam once a year and i remember he even admitted he was a virgin a few years back. Do you think he would just decide to Juice up and forget about all his beliefs, i dont
he has his negatives for sure he talks to much crap and thinks he is a better fighter than he is but a drug user never ever IMO
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0james0
Khan has been very vocal in his support for Floyd and his testing.
It would not suprise if when Pac and then probably Freddie retire, Khan at some point in his career ends up under Mayweather promotions.
He is definitely a Floyd fan at heart
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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
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As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range.
Sorry Alt but I totally disagree with your view that a boxer with a naturally lower level of testosterone should be allowed to supplement it.
That's like saying Malinaggi should be allowed to do PEDS to make him hit as hard as everyone else. If Peterson has a naturally lower level of testosterone than everyone else then tough shit. Khan has a naturally weaker chin than most and that's tough shit too. Peterson knowingly took a BANNED substance and that's pretty clear cut to me, whether he was justified or not...
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Conrad
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Althugz
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Rantcatrat
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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
<br /><br />
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As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range.
Sorry Alt but I totally disagree with your view that a boxer with a naturally lower level of testosterone should be allowed to supplement it.
That's like saying Malinaggi should be allowed to do PEDS to make him hit as hard as everyone else. If Peterson has a naturally lower level of testosterone than everyone else then tough shit. Khan has a naturally weaker chin than most and that's tough shit too. Peterson knowingly took a BANNED substance and that's pretty clear cut to me, whether he was justified or not...
I agree with you.
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Rantcatrat
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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
<br /><br />
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As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range.
Sorry Alt but I totally disagree with your view that a boxer with a naturally lower level of testosterone should be allowed to supplement it.
That's like saying Malinaggi should be allowed to do PEDS to make him hit as hard as everyone else. If Peterson has a naturally lower level of testosterone than everyone else then tough shit. Khan has a naturally weaker chin than most and that's tough shit too. Peterson knowingly took a BANNED substance and that's pretty clear cut to me, whether he was justified or not...
You can have an opinion about it but the FACT is that legally he IS allowed to supplement his lower testosterone levels - The only thing he did wrong was not follow the correct procedure and tell whoever needed to be told that he had to take the stuff to stay within NATURAL range. In this case, sure he should be punished.
P.S. Your analagy of Malignagi being allowed PEDs to hit harder is bullshit :) we're talking about hormone levels for which there can be a number of reasons they are low. Punch power isn't due to hormones..could be a small factor but also technique, muscle fiber type..
However, if somebody is unnaturally low in testosterone, how fair is it to say "Tough shit dude.." - Not very..and would probably be considered discriminatory if he had a condition that kept his testosterone levels lower than is commonly NATURAL. Hence, why the rules are in place that you can legally supplement as long as you keep levels natural and make the proper people aware. So your opinion is simply that..Opinion. There are already official rules in place that disagree with you.
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James Tony is another person with really low testosterone levels. I remember seeing that on discovery channel of all places.
My question to those more knowledgeable than I, if you do have a medical condition that required testosterone shots to keep your hormone level at a normal, would you still be disqualified or a doctors order suffice to clear you to box?
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Conrad
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Althugz
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
<br /><br />
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As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range.
Sorry Alt but I totally disagree with your view that a boxer with a naturally lower level of testosterone should be allowed to supplement it.
That's like saying Malinaggi should be allowed to do PEDS to make him hit as hard as everyone else. If Peterson has a naturally lower level of testosterone than everyone else then tough shit. Khan has a naturally weaker chin than most and that's tough shit too. Peterson knowingly took a BANNED substance and that's pretty clear cut to me, whether he was justified or not...
You can have an opinion about it but the FACT is that legally he IS allowed to supplement his lower testosterone levels - The only thing he did wrong was not follow the correct procedure and tell whoever needed to be told that he had to take the stuff to stay within NATURAL range. In this case, sure he should be punished.
P.S. Your analagy of Malignagi being allowed PEDs to hit harder is bullshit :) we're talking about hormone levels for which there can be a number of reasons they are low. Punch power isn't due to hormones..could be a small factor but also technique, muscle fiber type..
However, if somebody is unnaturally low in testosterone, how fair is it to say "Tough shit dude.." - Not very..and would probably be considered discriminatory if he had a condition that kept his testosterone levels lower than is commonly NATURAL. Hence, why the rules are in place that you can legally supplement as long as you keep levels natural and make the proper people aware. So your opinion is simply that..Opinion. There are already official rules in place that disagree with you.
First, Peterson did something wrong here. There's no two ways about it. He took supplements without telling anyone. More than that, he tooks supplements without telling his opponent and competed with his opponent. This is boxing. Anytime you do something like that, your opponent has a right to know, he's putting his life on the line every time he steps in the ring. It's unethical to not be transparent about it. It's also common decency. Moreover, it's against against the rules. Bottom line, regardless of the justification, failing to disclose, should be, and is, punishable. @Althugz , it appears you are attemping to sweep this under the rug.
Second, to your argument with @Conrad , isn't that a slippery slope? Once we allow athletes to supplement their natural levels of testosterone, why shouldn't we allow athletes to augment anything where they have a deficiency? If a person is unnaturally low in fast twitch/slow twitch muscle fibers, and science had a invented a procedure to change muscle fiber content, should a person be permitted to do it and compete with other people? Increase the size of lungs to increase stamina? Furthermore, what does "unnaturally low" mean? To whom? It opens up a whole new ethical discussion. I understand if a disease has left you with a hormonal imbalance etc., and you take supplements to get back to your pre-disease condition. It's different if you are "unnaturally low" because that is what you were born with.
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Althugz
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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Originally Posted by
Althugz
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he
<br /><br />
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As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range.
Sorry Alt but I totally disagree with your view that a boxer with a naturally lower level of testosterone should be allowed to supplement it.
That's like saying Malinaggi should be allowed to do PEDS to make him hit as hard as everyone else. If Peterson has a naturally lower level of testosterone than everyone else then tough shit. Khan has a naturally weaker chin than most and that's tough shit too. Peterson knowingly took a BANNED substance and that's pretty clear cut to me, whether he was justified or not...
You can have an opinion about it but the FACT is that legally he IS allowed to supplement his lower testosterone levels - The only thing he did wrong was not follow the correct procedure and tell whoever needed to be told that he had to take the stuff to stay within NATURAL range. In this case, sure he should be punished.
P.S. Your analagy of Malignagi being allowed PEDs to hit harder is bullshit :) we're talking about hormone levels for which there can be a number of reasons they are low. Punch power isn't due to hormones..could be a small factor but also technique, muscle fiber type..
However, if somebody is unnaturally low in testosterone, how fair is it to say "Tough shit dude.." - Not very..and would probably be considered discriminatory if he had a condition that kept his testosterone levels lower than is commonly NATURAL. Hence, why the rules are in place that you can legally supplement as long as you keep levels natural and make the proper people aware. So your opinion is simply that..Opinion. There are already official rules in place that disagree with you.
I could feel sorry for Peterson but I have just heard that they have two tests in one and when the first one came back positive he said he didnt take testosterone. When the second one came back he admited to taking it. This has guilty written all over it in my opinion.
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Ok so maybe my Malinaggi analogy isn't scientifically correct, but the principal remains the same. If what you're saying is true and Peterson is legally allowed to balance out his testosterone then why didn't he declare it?
Alt, judging by your avatar, I suspect me and you read from the same page in regards to PEDs etc. I by no means understand it in detail but my brother owns a gym and competes in body building all the time. I have no problem with steroids in certain sports and accept that it's pretty much standard in athletics and more than likely in boxing too. I'm of the opinion most athletes do it and know how to mask it but every now and again one slips through the net and gets caught.
Peterson got rumbled, unlucky for him.
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Ok so maybe my Malinaggi analogy isn't scientifically correct, but the principal remains the same. If what you're saying is true and Peterson is legally allowed to balance out his testosterone then why didn't he declare it?
Alt, judging by your avatar, I suspect me and you read from the same page in regards to PEDs etc. I by no means understand it in detail but my brother owns a gym and competes in body building all the time. I have no problem with steroids in certain sports and accept that it's pretty much standard in athletics and more than likely in boxing too. I'm of the opinion most athletes do it and know how to mask it but every now and again one slips through the net and gets caught.
Peterson got rumbled, unlucky for him.
I agree with you there about him being guilty there if he didn't declare it - Leighton, same goes for you. I'm not arguing his guilt. Just explaining the rules.
Yeah, the bodybuilding is a given that you need to take PED's to stand a chance. Even, the natural bodybuilding I doubt the tests are stringent.
That's why I chose fitness modelling over bodybuilding (well, one of many reasons) - I don't want to have to take PED's to compete (although I'm even not naive enough to think people 100% dont in fitness modellng competitions too). I can compete with the physiques in fitness modelling and prefer that look for myself. As well as their shows..heck of a lot more fun than Bodybuilding.
I learnt about PED's way before my interest in competing though. Every sport I've ever been in, PED's have been involved and talked about. From wrestling to boxing. People don't realise how rife the use of it is. I know of some pretty big names for 100% that used which you'd be surprised about. (but you shouldn't be surprised about ANYONE using)
My 2 pence on the matter.
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Hypogonadism
That is an article that goes into great detail explaining why some males have low testosterone levels. It also answers the question posed earlier as to what is 'unusually low' levels of testosterone.
I hope its helpful to anyone who's interested
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One part in that story caught my eyes:
"Most people are 1:1. But in sports, you can be 4:1, meaning nearly four times the normal limit. In New York and Nevada, you are allowed to be 6:1. As I have stated in the past, CIR resting caught Peterson with synthetic testosterone in his system but a legal limit T/E ratio of 3.77:1."
He was using it but it was at the legal limit of it. This is getting strange, is he a cheating prick, a nice guy who's branded cheater on a technicallity or WBA will make a strange rulling (we had strange ones before) and he gets to keep his belt due to medical conditions?
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Exactly, it doesn't really make any sense. Thanks for posting that article Rant, that's by fair the best account of what actually happened so far. Peterson did in fact press for the stricter testing, and would almost certainly have been able to fight without being detected had he not:-\. That is what is so bizzare to me, was he suspicious that Khan was using something even more obvious? Is he retarded? If he in fact did have unnaturally low levels of testosterone and only took the one tablet administered by a doctor he may be able to save some face here, but to not disclose the conidition and then believe that it wouldn't be detected in the more advanced tests is really strange. I'd like to believe he was poorly informed by his doctors or something. There is just no reason someone knowingly using a banned substance would push for the tests like that.
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However as much as I like Lamont Peterson I can't deny the single fact that it is his sole responsibility to inform his opponent, the commission and the sanctioning body that he was taking the testosterone pill for a medical purpose, if thats why he was being administered by his doctor for it.
If he were to have done that he could have gotten a Therapeutic Use Exemptions but he did not and woe is him and he'll be forever branded a cheater because of it.
Stupid man stupid mistake god damn it I wanted to see the rematch.
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i think Khan should get his belt back
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i think Khan should get his belt back
No, Khan should not get his belts back. The guy tested within very normal levels ffs. He was actually smack down in the middle range. Yet everybody is jumping on him and calling him a cheater. I actually feel for the guy - he made the stupid mistake of not reporting it and now he gets most of the uneducated public who haven't the first clue about the situation branding him a cheater.
I'll say again, it's fishy as hell that HE was the one pushing for the VADA testing and then getting caught.
I wonder what Khan's testosterone levels were?
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Yes Khan should get his belts back.
Most of that uneducated public includes every person involved in boxing. Is there anyone that has supported Peterson?
His excuses are par for the course for all drug cheats. He didn't know it was illegal and chose to not reveal he was taking it. Even if you believe him/his team are the thickest people on earth, and this is purely an innocent oversight by these people dealing with millions of dollars at stake, there's not a hope in hell they will get away with this. He'll get banned for taking an illegal substance that he admitted he took before the first Khan fight, which means he's getting stripped of the titles, which means Khan (who passed the exact same random test Peterson failed) might as well be given them back other than two vacant titles be put on the line.
We know Peterson took a banned substance before the first fight and would have had a banned substance in him before the rematch had he not been caught by a random test.
Guy hasn't got a leg to stand on.
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Belts should be vacant. Con lost the fight. How the fuck you gonna reward him for losing? Makes no fucking sense.
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Belts should be vacant. Con lost the fight. How the fuck you gonna reward him for losing? Makes no fucking sense.
You'd rather see two new "champions" at 140 instead of having the man that originally held the titles, who was beat by a cheat, re-establish some hierarchy in the division?
That attitude is exactly why boxing is so pathetic. Multi "world" champions per division. Hilarious.
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Most of that uneducated public includes every person involved in boxing. Is there anyone that has supported Peterson?
Anyone calling him a "cheater" is walking a very fine line - So what you are saying in your infinite wisdom (yes, extreme sarcasm) is that ANYONE who has passed the Nevada State Athletic Commisions drug tests with a test range that is above a 1:3.77 ratio is a cheater? Or a potential cheater? Remember that Peterson is the first person caught by these stricter tests - tests that HE demanded and he is still within the normal test ranges.
I guarantee you if you were to pull up every drug test in the last 10 years from the Nevada State Athletic Commision most fighters would show up higher than Peterson did that day.
Synthetic or not..as long as people fall within range and disclose what they're doing, I don't see the problem.
Plus if Peterson has medical backing then he does indeed have a leg to stand on..So, wrong again as usual Fenny boy...Unless they want to question the doctors credibility which you can never prove that they're lying...Fact, right?
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Re: Lamont Peterson positive for Taking drugs? Khan fight off????
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Violent Demise
Belts should be vacant. Con lost the fight. How the fuck you gonna reward him for losing? Makes no fucking sense.
You'd rather see two new "champions" at 140 instead of having the man that originally held the titles, who was beat by a cheat, re-establish some hierarchy in the division?
That attitude is exactly why boxing is so pathetic. Multi "world" champions per division. Hilarious.
So you rather see the belts go from one cheator to another? What's the point? Con should not be rewarded for losing the fight or for being able to hide his PED usage better than Peterson