Lamont Peterson positive for Taking drugs? Khan fight off????

[Rantcatrat]

Here is an article I just found that is helpful to understanding Peterson's culpability. In sum, the commissioner said that Peterson broke multiple rules. First and foremost, synthetic testosterone is a banned substance. However, if its use is disclosed to the commission in a timely manner, and the commission implements an indepdent review by its own medical professionals, it will in certain cases permit its use if it finds due cause. In such a case, he would be granted a therapeutic-use exemption. [One would assume that in such an instance, if it were permitted, the other side would be made aware of its use.] Therefore, Peterson violated the rules because (1) he used a banned substance, (2) failed to disclose the use of the banned substance to the Commission, and (3) failed a VADA test.

Thus, irrespective of the merit behind his use of the substance, it is a banned substance, which has to be obvious. In this day and age, anytime you are supplementing your body with more testosterone, questions will arise. What really does Peterson in here is that he failed to inform the Commission of his use of the banned substance. Why would you think Peterson would choose not to inform the commmission? The cynic might say that one reason is that his claim of low testosterone was false and he didn't believe he would be granted a therapeutic use exemption, or that he didn't want to draw any scrutiny to himself that would come with a independent review board examining his records because of what would then might be uncovered.

I have read elsewhere, but not confirmed by a reliable source, that he first took the substance three weeks before Khan-Peterson I. He travelled from D.C. to Vegas to get the testosterone treatment from a small, somewhat notoriously shady, clinic. He didn't report his use of testosterone to the D.C. commission either. Clearly, if that was the case, he was aware that he was supplementing with synthetic testosterone.

On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he was taking.

NSAC's Kizer Discusses Peterson Scandal, License Issue - Boxing News

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On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he

Haha I hope this shows how utterly ridiculous the Nevada state commisions drug testing is. I can not believe more people didn't give Team Pac more hell when they were trying to avoid it with excuses like "nobody is bigger than the sport, we'll do what the commision says". Pathetic.

As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range?

It's made even more ridiculous that he would probably be allowed to supplement with things like Tribulus and ZMA to increase testosterone just because they are over the counter supplements.

[Master]

Khan is over stating his case about how heavy Peterson was for the first fight and that the fight should be a no contest and that he should have his titles back. He is trying to turn back time and make people forget that he lost the fight.

[0james0]

Khan is over stating his case about how heavy Peterson was for the first fight and that the fight should be a no contest and that he should have his titles back. He is trying to turn back time and make people forget that he lost the fight.

I think it is going to work.



It's a banned substance, he knew it, everyone knew it, they just thought they would get away with it. Khan is doing what you would expect Khan to do, scream like a bratty girl and demand he got his status back.

Whether or not it should be banned is a different question. The fact is he knocked back loads of different supplements and pills and shakes when training. It's all chemically boosting stuff, topping up your mojo doesn't suddenly make you invincible.

I always picture Floyd hanging out with 50 Cent and the gang getting stoned. Not sure how he gets away with not getting caught smoking spliffs!

[Master]

Khan is over stating his case about how heavy Peterson was for the first fight and that the fight should be a no contest and that he should have his titles back. He is trying to turn back time and make people forget that he lost the fight.

I think it is going to work.



It's a banned substance, he knew it, everyone knew it, they just thought they would get away with it. Khan is doing what you would expect Khan to do, scream like a bratty girl and demand he got his status back.

Whether or not it should be banned is a different question. The fact is he knocked back loads of different supplements and pills and shakes when training. It's all chemically boosting stuff, topping up your mojo doesn't suddenly make you invincible.

I always picture Floyd hanging out with 50 Cent and the gang getting stoned. Not sure how he gets away with not getting caught smoking spliffs!

I do not think Floyd smokes any substances.

[0james0]

Khan is over stating his case about how heavy Peterson was for the first fight and that the fight should be a no contest and that he should have his titles back. He is trying to turn back time and make people forget that he lost the fight.

I think it is going to work.



It's a banned substance, he knew it, everyone knew it, they just thought they would get away with it. Khan is doing what you would expect Khan to do, scream like a bratty girl and demand he got his status back.

Whether or not it should be banned is a different question. The fact is he knocked back loads of different supplements and pills and shakes when training. It's all chemically boosting stuff, topping up your mojo doesn't suddenly make you invincible.

I always picture Floyd hanging out with 50 Cent and the gang getting stoned. Not sure how he gets away with not getting caught smoking spliffs!

I do not think Floyd smokes any substances.

Nope me neither. I'm joking.

It's probably heroin.

[amat]

On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he

Haha I hope this shows how utterly ridiculous the Nevada state commisions drug testing is. I can not believe more people didn't give Team Pac more hell when they were trying to avoid it with excuses like "nobody is bigger than the sport, we'll do what the commision says". Pathetic.

As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range?

It's made even more ridiculous that he would probably be allowed to supplement with things like Tribulus and ZMA to increase testosterone just because they are over the counter supplements.

The Nevada State Athletic commission is a Government organization. It's by far the best commission in boxing imo but it's not really possible for them to capably test for synthetic testosterone which is why they have absolutely embraced outside organizations handling drug testing. It's not exactly cheap and I don't know about Nevada, but California tests onsite. That means they are using their own equipment and administrators, paid for by the state to handle fighter testing. I would imagine Nevada is the same. A government organization probably isn't going to spend millions of dollars to test for HGH (which can be done now) and synthetic testosterone. It's the same lab they are processing post office workers' samples! They test for the big 5 street drugs and than a small assortment of steroids. That's about it. No reason to bash on the NSAC, they do a great job but even they would concede (I would imagine) that this is best handled by a third party.

Shame, shame, shame on Peterson. Stupid. I was really, really looking forward to the rematch too and I am a big fan of both Petersons.

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I'm not bashing the NSAC - truth is though, that in a sport like boxing, their tests fall pathetically short.

My main gripe is how people used the NSAC to safeguard Pac when the excuses were flying thick and fast about why Floyds demands were ridiculous "rules are rules - Floyd isn't bigger than the sport blah blah".

Just pure redundant arguements proven by this Khan vs Peterson fiasco.

It costs more money for random, comprehensive drug tests but in the long-term every commisions interest should be to safeguard the fighters that bring in such a healthy income to their state, especially Nevada. They'd lose more money long term by NOT safeguarding their fighters if something goes wrong.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm not bashing the NSAC - truth is though, that in a sport like boxing, their tests fall pathetically short.

My main gripe is how people used the NSAC to safeguard Pac when the excuses were flying thick and fast about why Floyds demands were ridiculous "rules are rules - Floyd isn't bigger than the sport blah blah".

Just pure redundant arguements proven by this Khan vs Peterson fiasco.

It costs more money for random, comprehensive drug tests but in the long-term every commisions interest should be to safeguard the fighters that bring in such a healthy income to their state, especially Nevada. They'd lose more money long term by NOT safeguarding their fighters if something goes wrong.

I'm a little surprised Flyod hasn't made a bigger deal about Peterson's failed test. One would think he would be all over it. It seems like the perfect opportunity for Floyd to point out the flaws of the current drug testing. Now that I think about it, has Floyd ever stated that the Nevada testing is inadequate? Or has he tiptoed around criticizing the Nevada Commission? Do you think Floyd's reaction would have been different if Khan had failed the test?

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I'm not bashing the NSAC - truth is though, that in a sport like boxing, their tests fall pathetically short.

My main gripe is how people used the NSAC to safeguard Pac when the excuses were flying thick and fast about why Floyds demands were ridiculous "rules are rules - Floyd isn't bigger than the sport blah blah".

Just pure redundant arguements proven by this Khan vs Peterson fiasco.

It costs more money for random, comprehensive drug tests but in the long-term every commisions interest should be to safeguard the fighters that bring in such a healthy income to their state, especially Nevada. They'd lose more money long term by NOT safeguarding their fighters if something goes wrong.

Or has he tiptoed around criticizing the Nevada Commission? Do you think Floyd's reaction would have been different if Khan had failed the test?

I doubt it's high on his priority list right now as he prepares to be locked up..and he's just come out of a fairly gruelling fight. I think boxing is the furthest thing from his mind at this point whether it was Khan who failed it or Peterson. Let's just say that I think he'd have more "motivation" to give an opinion if Khan had been caught

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I notice that Khan has only said that he's disappointed and was ready to win back his belts etc. Not a word of criticism towards Peterson for using Peds Why wouldn't he at least mention if not condemn Peterson, if he hadn't used them himself? It's not as though he is reserved about anything else, I just find it odd.

[Master]

I notice that Khan has only said that he's disappointed and was ready to win back his belts etc. Not a word of criticism towards Peterson for using Peds Why wouldn't he at least mention if not condemn Peterson, if he hadn't used them himself? It's not as though he is reserved about anything else, I just find it odd.

You are reading too much into it. He has called Peterson a cheat, that says it all.

[Rantcatrat]

I notice that Khan has only said that he's disappointed and was ready to win back his belts etc. Not a word of criticism towards Peterson for using Peds Why wouldn't he at least mention if not condemn Peterson, if he hadn't used them himself? It's not as though he is reserved about anything else, I just find it odd.

I've heard him be critical of Peterson. He's been vocal about more stringent testing. He also submitted to the VADA testing without any question. It's the wrong angle, to suspect Khan, when Peterson has been found doing something against the rules. 'Bad for boxing' | Sky Sports | Shows | Ringside

[Rantcatrat]

On a side note, Peterson actaully passed the Nevada drug test because his testosterone ratio was 3.77-1. He failed the VADA test because it also tests for synthetic testosterone, which is what he

Haha I hope this shows how utterly ridiculous the Nevada state commisions drug testing is. I can not believe more people didn't give Team Pac more hell when they were trying to avoid it with excuses like "nobody is bigger than the sport, we'll do what the commision says". Pathetic.

As an aside I think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to supplement with synthetic testosterone to even up your natural test levels if you are low. So if Khan was up at 6 and Peterson was at 1..how fair is it that he is not allowed to even that up to within range?

It's made even more ridiculous that he would probably be allowed to supplement with things like Tribulus and ZMA to increase testosterone just because they are over the counter supplements.

Here's the rub, you ARE permitted to supplement with testosterone, you just need to disclose it to the commission so it can be independently verified that you are low.