If Geale was smart he'd demand that be deducted from next round :-X
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If Geale was smart he'd demand that be deducted from next round :-X
I feel bad for Geale, you cannot deny Golovkins Drago talents though.
Seems like one fighter has a shot gun. While the other one has a pellet gun
wow
Traded right hands. oops. Guy has solid timing too,
Too early. He only had to get through a few seconds. Sure, Golovkin was winning and hurting him, but at the top you give a chance. I don't like these kinds of stoppages.
He quit. Didn't know Geale was Puerto Rican
Geale shook his head at the ref man, that wasn't even a stoppage, he didn't want to continue. Crazy KO to, Golovkin got hit with a big shot at the same time he threw.
And there it is. Geale is a quality middleweight and Golovkin beat him without ever getting out of first gear.
Ggg is officially a beast
Well Cotto/Floyd/Quillin and the rest are going to be queuing up to fight him now!
Exactly why this "cleaning out middleweight" idea should be junked. MW is a morgue, GGG should move up to fight better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swice
Ugh and he says he wants 160. Time wasted.
Golovkin knows the Mexican style is what is people want to see.
If I was Cotto family the last thing I'd do is sign to fight that
I lost count after the 9th thank you
Pussy ass Froch
Geale didn't want anymore of Golovkin. I think he understood what everyone else was seeing. He couldn't hurt Golovkin, he was getting hurt by Golovkin, and he was giving his all and getting beat by a guy who hadn't even broken a sweat. There wasn't going to be a lucky punch tonight, he couldn't dodge GGG's power for one round let alone 12, and even if he could he was still getting outboxed and losing rounds. It looked hopeless from round one and just kept getting worse. Once he got knocked down for the second time, he had that look on his face like "I have absolutely no idea what to do to turn this around." Still didn't expect him to quit though.
He did give him a chance Miles, he gave him a chance to say no thanks mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
What people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Geale landed probably his best punch of the fight and a split second later he was on his arse so hurt that he actually quit.
Every time Golovkin fights you get to see something unusual.
http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2...gg3.gif?w=1000
Oh, well. I was expecting a bit more from the main event, but it wasn't the worst fight ever. Golovkin needs to fight some names, he stops everyone, but there aren't many names on his resume. Cotto would be good, but still it's picking on a smaller man. Golovkin maybe needs to prove himself against the SMW's. He is 32 and there are no names on his record.
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Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
350k is a truly spectacular number. De La Hoya only sold 200k his first ppv.
Cotto's licking his chops after seeing that bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
GG's defense has more holes than a Texas oil field.
Its like GGG ate Geale's right hook and used the energy to maximize his own right's output.
Cyborg.
It's just my thing, I am never into these count outs when the fighter is up. If he was down and then only up at 8 and falling all over the place, but Geale wasn't at the completely drunk stage to me. Shaken sure, hurt sure, but a few seconds to go and a minute to take a break and then maybe call it quits if his team thinks he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisHe did give him a chance Miles, he gave him a chance to say no thanks mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
So,Mayweather /Baldomir did spectactular numbers??Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing350k is a truly spectacular number. De La Hoya only sold 200k his first ppv.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Hmmm
That's the first time I heard that..
350,000 are shit numbers for a fighter with a built in fanbase.
Still waiting on those Lara fight numbers...
Cotto is the only big name left at middleweight with a decent resume and I don't see him making it twelve rounds either. Maybe before the wars and I stress maybe, but not now. Quillin is there as well, but he hasn't even been in the ring with someone the level of Geale, let alone GGG. Just the fact that Quillin is ranked so high with his level of opposition says more about the mw division than any words can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonExactly why this "cleaning out middleweight" idea should be junked. MW is a morgue, GGG should move up to fight better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swice
Ugh and he says he wants 160. Time wasted.
This is a guy who had never been stopped in a world level career. Ergo a tough fucking guy. He had eight seconds to recover and still felt like he couldn't continue. To me that says more about the power he got clobbered with than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIt's just my thing, I am never into these count outs when the fighter is up. If he was down and then only up at 8 and falling all over the place, but Geale wasn't at the completely drunk stage to me. Shaken sure, hurt sure, but a few seconds to go and a minute to take a break and then maybe call it quits if his team thinks he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThis is a guy who had never been stopped in a world level career. Ergo a tough fucking guy. He had eight seconds to recover and still felt like he couldn't continue. To me that says more about the power he got clobbered with than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
He did give him a chance Miles, he gave him a chance to say no thanks mate.
Amazing punch! Головкин - Гил - Нокаут
Name one other non heavyweight guy who broke more than 200k the first time he headlined a PPV. You can't. And Alvarez did 350k.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneSo,Mayweather /Baldomir did spectactular numbers??Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing350k is a truly spectacular number. De La Hoya only sold 200k his first ppv.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Hmmm
That's the first time I heard that..
350,000 are shit numbers for a fighter with a built in fanbase.
Still waiting on those Lara fight numbers...
Dude, what are you on about? Geale shook his head no, the ref didn't stop the fight Geale stopped the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIt's just my thing, I am never into these count outs when the fighter is up. If he was down and then only up at 8 and falling all over the place, but Geale wasn't at the completely drunk stage to me. Shaken sure, hurt sure, but a few seconds to go and a minute to take a break and then maybe call it quits if his team thinks he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisHe did give him a chance Miles, he gave him a chance to say no thanks mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I'm in no way agreeing with Cyclone. But you can't compare PPV numbers from then to now. PPV availability has jumped astronomically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
350k is a truly spectacular number. De La Hoya only sold 200k his first ppv.
:vd: Marquez has been cashing 7 figure checks for the last 7 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Those are shit numbers for mexico's biggest star...considering they have the style people want to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingName one other non heavyweight guy who broke more than 200k the first time he headlined a PPV. You can't. And Alvarez did 350k.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneSo,Mayweather /Baldomir did spectactular numbers??Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing350k is a truly spectacular number. De La Hoya only sold 200k his first ppv.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Hmmm
That's the first time I heard that..
350,000 are shit numbers for a fighter with a built in fanbase.
Still waiting on those Lara fight numbers...
I see those Floyd/Baldomir numbers in a new light.
That was his first PPV and he did better than Oscar's first PPV...without a mexican opponent.
The Lara fight must have bombed because those numbers are kinda' slow getting out.
It's maybe doubled in household numbers since DLHstarted PPVing. But the context of the discussion is just pure numbers. 350k as a debut, especially on Showtime which has 60% of the households that HBO has is a serious number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonI'm in no way agreeing with Cyclone. But you can't compare PPV numbers from then to now. PPV availability has jumped astronomically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
350k is a truly spectacular number. De La Hoya only sold 200k his first ppv.
At the ass end of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: Marquez has been cashing 7 figure checks for the last 7 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Hell....
Broner cashing 7 figure checks and he's not mexican...or 40 years old..So is Andre Ward.
Mexicans aren't the only fighters people want to see by longshot.
If Cotto was GGGs size it would be interesting. I'd pick GGG anyway. But Cotto started at 140, he's too small. Quillen is being hidden for a reason. The good fights are at 168. The most money is probably a Cotto fight, Canelo fight or Chavez Jr. I can understand him taking those fights, it's business. But short of getting a payday fight it's time to fight his quality of fighter. He's proven he wrecks guys that are beneath him, it's time to see who all is beneath him. Is Froch beneath him? Ward?Quote:
Originally Posted by SwiceCotto is the only big name left at middleweight with a decent resume and I don't see him making it twelve rounds either. Maybe before the wars and I stress maybe, but not now. Quillin is there as well, but he hasn't even been in the ring with someone the level of Geale, let alone GGG. Just the fact that Quillin is ranked so high with his level of opposition says more about the mw division than any words can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonExactly why this "cleaning out middleweight" idea should be junked. MW is a morgue, GGG should move up to fight better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swice
Ugh and he says he wants 160. Time wasted.
I think he stops Froch. A GGG/Ward fight is probably the fight I most want to see.
He's 32 and he's thinking about available paydays for what's left of his career. Cotto would be a huge PPV event. So would Alvarez. Both of those fights are infinitely easier and bigger paydays than Ward or Froch. Although definitely Ward and Froch are mouthwatering fights for us to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIf Cotto was GGGs size it would be interesting. I'd pick GGG anyway. But Cotto started at 140, he's too small. Quillen is being hidden for a reason. The good fights are at 168. The most money is probably a Cotto fight, Canelo fight or Chavez Jr. I can understand him taking those fights, it's business. But short of getting a payday fight it's time to fight his quality of fighter. He's proven he wrecks guys that are beneath him, it's time to see who all is beneath him. Is Froch beneath him? Ward?Quote:
Originally Posted by SwiceCotto is the only big name left at middleweight with a decent resume and I don't see him making it twelve rounds either. Maybe before the wars and I stress maybe, but not now. Quillin is there as well, but he hasn't even been in the ring with someone the level of Geale, let alone GGG. Just the fact that Quillin is ranked so high with his level of opposition says more about the mw division than any words can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonExactly why this "cleaning out middleweight" idea should be junked. MW is a morgue, GGG should move up to fight better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swice
Ugh and he says he wants 160. Time wasted.
I think he stops Froch. A GGG/Ward fight is probably the fight I most want to see.
I'd like to see Floyd fight Golovkin more than anything else. Rather than Floyd fighting endless second rate Haymon clients I'd love to see those two fight each other.
Have Broner headline a PPV and see what numbers he does. Better yet have Ward headline one. Bernard Hopkins is doing big things for a 50 year old. But they won't dare put him on PPV unless he's the B side player. Mayweather himself knows his numbers shit ain't without Mexicans. It's the reason why he always fight on Cinco de Mayo. And it's the reason why Devon Alexander, Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman are never seriously considered as opponents. Mayweather knows he fights another black fighter and his PPV don't crack 300,000. Mosley is as white washed as they come. So he was the exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneAt the ass end of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: Marquez has been cashing 7 figure checks for the last 7 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWhat people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
If ya'll got the style people want tosee, it would be reflected in the marketplace.
A mexican isn't the biggest draw in boxing.
I don't see JMM cashing any huge checks.
The biggest name in mexican boxing today ....Canelo...sold only $350,000 ppv buys against another Mexican.
Those are Mayweather /Baldomir numbers.
Still waiting on the numbers from the Lara fight.
Hell....
Broner cashing 7 figure checks and he's not mexican...or 40 years old..So is Andre Ward.
Mexicans aren't the only fighters people want to see by longshot.
He didn't want to continue? Then fair enough, that's his call to make and I respect that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonDude, what are you on about? Geale shook his head no, the ref didn't stop the fight Geale stopped the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIt's just my thing, I am never into these count outs when the fighter is up. If he was down and then only up at 8 and falling all over the place, but Geale wasn't at the completely drunk stage to me. Shaken sure, hurt sure, but a few seconds to go and a minute to take a break and then maybe call it quits if his team thinks he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisHe did give him a chance Miles, he gave him a chance to say no thanks mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf