Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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awdleyfuturehalloffamer
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tysonbruno
I wouldn't blame Lennox for coming back for £25m and i think he could beat Vitali i think he would stop him.
Lewis got lucky the first fight. Vitali was kicking his ass before the eye got cut in the 3rd round. Lewis won on a technicality, he was losing the fight. If Vitali didn't get cut i'm damn sure he would have blown out lewis in 12.
I won't disagree that if Vitali was not cut he would of had a better chance but he did get his face so badly cut he could not continue. Lewis won fair and square. Vitali got respect from me in that fight for wanting to carry on I must add.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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DaxxKahn
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Kirkland Laing
Anyone know how many PPV buys Lewis-Frankenstein 1 did?
Wasn't PPV mate....Plain old HBO
So I think we can safely say that this story is rubbish. :)
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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Kirkland Laing
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DaxxKahn
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Kirkland Laing
Anyone know how many PPV buys Lewis-Frankenstein 1 did?
Wasn't PPV mate....Plain old HBO
So I think we can safely say that this story is rubbish. :)
No the story of an offer is more then likely true but then again lets look at the source....Don King knows about Hype and how to create it.....
Just the offer alone is enough to attract viewers to watch Vitaly's next fight....The a few comments after the fight assuming Vitaly wins such as "This is why Lennox Lewis is refusing our offer"....Eventually he will create enough hype to make people believe Vitaly is the greatest HW since Holmes while having fought guys like, Sultan Ibragimov or Ruslan Chagaev...
All marketing
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
Lets think of it like this...
Lewis doesnt have anything more to prove
IF, Lewis did come back which I dont think he will, he will not be anywhwere near as good as he use to be with inactivity and him not training anymore like he use to. We are kidding ourseleves if we ever believe that Lewis will be anything more than the standard issue heavyweight thats around now.
Lewis doesnt need anymore money, hes got enough and its not even worth the risk of his life in the ring IMO.
Vitali from what I have heard wasnt anything like his former self, the fight will be so hyped that when it does happen it will be nothing what anybody actually expected. Its just simple knowledge that both men are not like they were in their 'younger' days.
In saying that both men werent at their youngest so I just dont see the point in this fight really.
I will be a lot more interested in Vitali-Haye to be honest.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
I think Vitali gets to much credit for his fight with Lennox yes he was 2 points up at the finish but he was cut real bad he needed 100 stitches the fight was stopped fair and square. He was starting to get caught with big punches especially uppercuts at one point he is holding Lennox virtually alway round ring. See Lennox should get some good credit for this he was training to fight Kirk Johnson who is about 6ft 2 inch then at a weeks notice Kirk pulls out with a chest injury and Lennox decides to fight Vitali a very dangerous 6ft 8inch number 1 contender to the WBC title. Vitali was fully fit as he was going to fight on the undercard at the end of the fight Vitali was 2 points up but his face was a mess he had been starting to get hurt and holding more regular as i think Vitali's legacy is built around the fact he was 2 points up vs Lennox Lewis but no matter how you look at it he was stopped by Lennox in only 6 rounds because his face was a mess 100 stitches and plastic surgery says it all.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
Hey buddy so Lennox was training to fight Kirk Johnson, Vitali had trained to fight CEDRIC BOSWELL!
Lennox got lucky that's all there was to it....an awkward punch caught Vitali wrong and ripped his eye up.
The point of the matter is that it was an awesome fucking fight big old Lennox and Vitali standing toe to toe and beating the crap out of each other...it was exactly what the division needed.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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Lyle
Hey buddy so Lennox was training to fight Kirk Johnson, Vitali had trained to fight CEDRIC BOSWELL!
Lennox got lucky that's all there was to it....an awkward punch caught Vitali wrong and ripped his eye up.
The point of the matter is that it was an awesome fucking fight big old Lennox and Vitali standing toe to toe and beating the crap out of each other...it was exactly what the division needed.
don't see how u can say he was lucky. If it was only one cut, fair enough. but he was cut and busted in more than one place. that is from good clean slashing hits, then targeting the same spot to open it up.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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Preme
I don't see Lennox coming back after all this time to fight Vitali. What's the point? if he comes back i think he will do it when he is older than forman was when he won his last title.
I think money is the last think Lewis needs, so why come back and fight a guy u busted up in his prime and at the end of your career?
Actually Foreman was 45 when he won the title the last time and Lennox was born in like 1965, making him only 43 now.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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LuciferTheGreat
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Preme
I don't see Lennox coming back after all this time to fight Vitali. What's the point? if he comes back i think he will do it when he is older than forman was when he won his last title.
I think money is the last think Lewis needs, so why come back and fight a guy u busted up in his prime and at the end of your career?
Actually Foreman was 45 when he won the title the last time and Lennox was born in like 1965, making him only 43 now.
Ok so we know you can count... but what's your point?
like i said, IF he comes back it will be WHEN he is older than foreman was when he won it... not now... thought that was obvious.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
Lewis has always been of far too sound a mind to make a comeback. He seems astute and knows his legacy is intact. No point in making a silly old man comeback.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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Preme
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Lyle
Hey buddy so Lennox was training to fight Kirk Johnson, Vitali had trained to fight CEDRIC BOSWELL!
Lennox got lucky that's all there was to it....an awkward punch caught Vitali wrong and ripped his eye up.
The point of the matter is that it was an awesome fucking fight big old Lennox and Vitali standing toe to toe and beating the crap out of each other...it was exactly what the division needed.
don't see how u can say he was lucky. If it was only one cut, fair enough. but he was cut and busted in more than one place. that is from good clean slashing hits, then targeting the same spot to open it up.
Theres nothing lucky about it . If anything Vitali was lucky the ref never let him continue. Was Tyson "lucky" to catch Spinks . Was Mayweather "lucky " against Gatti ? No the better fighters won .
Vitali wasnt good enough that night to beat a washed up overweight Old Lewis and thats a fact . He wasnt even good enough to last 6 rounds.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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GAME
Theres nothing lucky about it . If anything Vitali was lucky the ref never let him continue. Was Tyson "lucky" to catch Spinks . Was Mayweather "lucky " against Gatti ? No the better fighters won .
Vitali wasnt good enough that night to beat a washed up overweight Old Lewis and thats a fact . He wasnt even good enough to last 6 rounds.
Let me ask you #1 When was the last time Lennox cut someone like that #2 When was the last time Vitali got cut...not cut like he got cut vs Lewis but just cut period
The cut was opened by Lennox glancing a punch as Vitali leaned back in defense. Any other time this happens either Lennox lands clean, misses, or glances in another way which doesn't cause a cut that bad.
Don't think Lennox wasn't trying his damnedest to get Vitali out of there as fast as fucking possible too. He was as tired if not MORE tired than Vitali at the end of the fight.
These things happen I just wish people would stop acting like one guy whipped another guy's ass.....it was an even fight at that point. Sure Lennox had momentum swinging his way but from the way he looked at the end there was no telling how long that was going to last.
I will just say THERE HASN'T BEEN A REMATCH FOR A REASON and everyone knows why
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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Lyle
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GAME
Theres nothing lucky about it . If anything Vitali was lucky the ref never let him continue. Was Tyson "lucky" to catch Spinks . Was Mayweather "lucky " against Gatti ? No the better fighters won .
Vitali wasnt good enough that night to beat a washed up overweight Old Lewis and thats a fact . He wasnt even good enough to last 6 rounds.
Let me ask you #1 When was the last time Lennox cut someone like that #2 When was the last time Vitali got cut...not cut like he got cut vs Lewis but just cut period
The cut was opened by Lennox glancing a punch as Vitali leaned back in defense. Any other time this happens either Lennox lands clean, misses, or glances in another way which doesn't cause a cut that bad.
Don't think Lennox wasn't trying his damnedest to get Vitali out of there as fast as fucking possible too. He was as tired if not MORE tired than Vitali at the end of the fight.
These things happen I just wish people would stop acting like one guy whipped another guy's ass.....it was an even fight at that point. Sure Lennox had momentum swinging his way but from the way he looked at the end there was no telling how long that was going to last.
I will just say
THERE HASN'T BEEN A REMATCH FOR A REASON and everyone knows why
It wasnt just his face that was cut , his mouth was cut , basically he was cut to shreds by Lewis ' punches. Not headbutts.
I disagree Lewis was more tired at the end . He had a massive 6th round. Vitali had given it his best shot and was begining to get tagged by big shots . He finished the . . barely .
Yes there hasnt been a rematch and we do know why .
Tyson and Spinks didnt rematch for the same reason . . . . There was simply no point . Unless Lewis was paid whatever he demanded then why would he want to do something he has already done . . . stop Vitali .
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
GAME that is fucking ridiculous to compare a 90 second blow out to a highly competitive fight which was stopped by cuts....it wasn't stopped because Vitali wasn't defending himself, it wasn't stopped because Vitali was knocked down, it wasn't stopped for any other reason than the Doctor said "stop the fight".....that's it that's all there is to it and to think of it in any other way not only shows what an incompotent fan of boxing you are but it belittles what actually happened in the fight.
There was no rematch because Lewis wanted to retire without losing his titles....the fans, the press, and everyone else except Lennox and a small minority of his fans (who knew what was up) wanted a rematch. Everyone wanted a rematch because NOBODY wanted the fight to end because of a cut.
Re: Don King set to offer Lewis £25 MILLION to face Vitali
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Lyle
GAME that is fucking ridiculous to compare a 90 second blow out to a highly competitive fight which was stopped by cuts....it wasn't stopped because Vitali wasn't defending himself, it wasn't stopped because Vitali was knocked down, it wasn't stopped for any other reason than the Doctor said "stop the fight".....that's it that's all there is to it and to think of it in any other way not only shows what an incompotent fan of boxing you are but it belittles what actually happened in the fight.
There was no rematch because Lewis wanted to retire without losing his titles....the fans, the press, and everyone else except Lennox and a small minority of his fans (who knew what was up) wanted a rematch. Everyone wanted a rematch because NOBODY wanted the fight to end because of a cut.
Ha ha. Neg rep and insults? I think Ive touched a nerve ;D
Lewis wanted to retire without losing his titles ? To a bloke that couldnt even last 6 rounds with him on his worst day ? Get your head out your arse Lyle and look at the facts . Vitalis best shots bounced off Lewis . How was he gonna win the fight ? He couldnt last 12 . He couldnt drop Lewis . He had no chance of winning . His body let him down too. He quit vs Byrd cuz of his shoulder. He kept pulling out vs Rahman cuz of his back or leg etc . His skin couldnt hold up vs Lewis.
Just accept the fact , your boy got beat fair and square ! ;)