Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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11-13-2008, 06:28 PM
GAME

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

ESPN says De La Hoya is already weighing 145

It looks like it . I expect him to be majorly weight drained. Jones showed that moving down 2 weights can effect you bad . Lets see how it effects Oscar
11-13-2008, 07:03 PM
Chino

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...

Have you heard of acting? If Roach wanted, he could scream "Ooooooooooouch!" everytime Pac hit his mitts or pretend he just can't take it anymore and then look at the cameras and go "See? He hits harder than Oscar!".
11-13-2008, 08:44 PM
killersheep

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?
11-13-2008, 08:49 PM
killersheep

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

This is an absurd comparison, it is not just velocity, but also because the energy of the blast is focused in a very small area. Not only is PACs punch lighter, but the area of impact will be roughly the same once they get the gloves on. Without having the Ivan Drago punch counter machine measuring pounds per inch of force you have no basis for this argument other than "Roach said so."

Dammit I did it again I can't believe I fell for responding to another one of these damn SADDOBOXER-WANTS-PACS-JOCKSTRAP advertisement threads.
11-13-2008, 08:59 PM
C-Lo

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest2

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Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

This is an absurd comparison, it is not just velocity, but also because the energy of the blast is focused in a very small area. Not only is PACs punch lighter, but the area of impact will be roughly the same once they get the gloves on. Without having the Ivan Drago punch counter machine measuring pounds per inch of force you have no basis for this argument other than "Roach said so."

Dammit I did it again I can't believe I fell for responding to another one of these damn SADDOBOXER-WANTS-PACS-JOCKSTRAP advertisement threads.

I think people reply to these threads to try to have the funniest comment on how to talk about how ridiculous the statement is.

BY THE WAY! THIS JUST IN! Roach claims Pacquiao's chin will be able to take more damage because Manny decided to grow his goatee out!!!
11-13-2008, 09:11 PM
XaduBoxer

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by Chino

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On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...

Have you heard of acting? If Roach wanted, he could scream "Ooooooooooouch!" everytime Pac hit his mitts or pretend he just can't take it anymore and then look at the cameras and go "See? He hits harder than Oscar!".

PAC knocking out Roach's mitts did not happened on this training camp only... As I've pointed out, it happened many times in the past like when PAC trained for JMM and David Diaz... So you mean Roach and PAC were just acting all these times to generate the hype? I don't think so... Hype isn't in PAC's vocabulary as proven in his fight results...
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11-13-2008, 09:13 PM
leftylee

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by Chino

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On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...

Have you heard of acting? If Roach wanted, he could scream "Ooooooooooouch!" everytime Pac hit his mitts or pretend he just can't take it anymore and then look at the cameras and go "See? He hits harder than Oscar!".

PAC knocking out Roach's mitts did not happened on this training camp only... As I've pointed out, it happened many times in the past like when PAC trained for JMM and David Diaz... So you mean Roach and PAC were just acting all these times to generate the hype? I don't think so... Hype isn't in PAC's vocabulary as proven in his fight results...
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Pac groupies really do come out with comical shit :lolhaha:
11-13-2008, 09:15 PM
XaduBoxer

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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11-13-2008, 09:18 PM
XaduBoxer

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by Chino

Have you heard of acting? If Roach wanted, he could scream "Ooooooooooouch!" everytime Pac hit his mitts or pretend he just can't take it anymore and then look at the cameras and go "See? He hits harder than Oscar!".

PAC knocking out Roach's mitts did not happened on this training camp only... As I've pointed out, it happened many times in the past like when PAC trained for JMM and David Diaz... So you mean Roach and PAC were just acting all these times to generate the hype? I don't think so... Hype isn't in PAC's vocabulary as proven in his fight results...
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Pac groupies really do come out with comical shit :lolhaha:

Is that all you can say? You better reinforced your opinion that Roach is lying rather than posting nonsense comments...
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11-13-2008, 09:20 PM
kingfrnk

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

damn how this get over 50 posts:confused:

everybody should know that pac doesnt harder than ODLH especially at 147. hell dont worry abut pacs power. pac fans should worry about his speed. cause he didnt look that fast at 135 so adding 12 more pounds will slow him down even more.
11-13-2008, 09:22 PM
XaduBoxer

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

ESPN says De La Hoya is already weighing 145

Could be true... Hoya looked drained (and black eyed) already...

http://philboxing.com/news/pix/odlh.081112.19.330w.jpg
11-13-2008, 10:48 PM
killersheep

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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No my trainers name is Jason of course he is nowhere near 50 years old and doesn't have Parkinson's disease like Roach does either.
11-13-2008, 11:55 PM
Chino

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...

It's called "hyping a fight" bro. It's his very own fighter, how in the world would someone say something negative about his very own fighter? It just doesn't make sense. So Freddie Roach can go ahead and say his hands end up all numb after working with Pac, sure, let's sell the fight!
Wouldn’t all Mike Tyson trainers say the same? Here we have a heavyweight with dynamite in his punches and I don't remember hearing trainers cry like Freddie Roach because Tyson was hitting those mitts with all his might or are you going to tell me Pac hits harder than Tyson?
11-14-2008, 01:00 AM
XaduBoxer

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by Chino

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If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...

It's called "hyping a fight" bro. It's his very own fighter, how in the world would someone say something negative about his very own fighter? It just doesn't make sense. So Freddie Roach can go ahead and say his hands end up all numb after working with Pac, sure, let's sell the fight!
Wouldn’t all Mike Tyson trainers say the same? Here we have a heavyweight with dynamite in his punches and I don't remember hearing trainers cry like Freddie Roach because Tyson was hitting those mitts with all his might or are you going to tell me Pac hits harder than Tyson?

Normally you won't say anything negative about your own boxer. The trainer well keep all those negatives in the closet. That's the normal thing. So it's very surprising Roach was saying all these negatives about Hoya (his own boxer at one time)...

This could be hyping but PAC doesn't live on hypes, he do his business inside the ring and it's proven by his fight results...

BTW, I don't think Roach is that delusional to claim that PAC hits harder than Tyson... unless if that's what he felt from the punches of the two boxers...
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11-14-2008, 01:05 AM
XaduBoxer

Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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No my trainers name is Jason of course he is nowhere near 50 years old and doesn't have Parkinson's disease like Roach does either.

Did your trainer Jason was also able to hold the mitts for Hoya?
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