Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

[XaduBoxer]

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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[kingfrnk]

damn how this get over 50 posts

everybody should know that pac doesnt harder than ODLH especially at 147. hell dont worry abut pacs power. pac fans should worry about his speed. cause he didnt look that fast at 135 so adding 12 more pounds will slow him down even more.

[killersheep]

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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No my trainers name is Jason of course he is nowhere near 50 years old and doesn't have Parkinson's disease like Roach does either.

[Chino]

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...

It's called "hyping a fight" bro. It's his very own fighter, how in the world would someone say something negative about his very own fighter? It just doesn't make sense. So Freddie Roach can go ahead and say his hands end up all numb after working with Pac, sure, let's sell the fight!
Wouldn’t all Mike Tyson trainers say the same? Here we have a heavyweight with dynamite in his punches and I don't remember hearing trainers cry like Freddie Roach because Tyson was hitting those mitts with all his might or are you going to tell me Pac hits harder than Tyson?

[XaduBoxer]

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...

It's called "hyping a fight" bro. It's his very own fighter, how in the world would someone say something negative about his very own fighter? It just doesn't make sense. So Freddie Roach can go ahead and say his hands end up all numb after working with Pac, sure, let's sell the fight!
Wouldn’t all Mike Tyson trainers say the same? Here we have a heavyweight with dynamite in his punches and I don't remember hearing trainers cry like Freddie Roach because Tyson was hitting those mitts with all his might or are you going to tell me Pac hits harder than Tyson?

Normally you won't say anything negative about your own boxer. The trainer well keep all those negatives in the closet. That's the normal thing. So it's very surprising Roach was saying all these negatives about Hoya (his own boxer at one time)...

This could be hyping but PAC doesn't live on hypes, he do his business inside the ring and it's proven by his fight results...

BTW, I don't think Roach is that delusional to claim that PAC hits harder than Tyson... unless if that's what he felt from the punches of the two boxers...
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[Dizaster]

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...

It's called "hyping a fight" bro. It's his very own fighter, how in the world would someone say something negative about his very own fighter? It just doesn't make sense. So Freddie Roach can go ahead and say his hands end up all numb after working with Pac, sure, let's sell the fight!
Wouldn’t all Mike Tyson trainers say the same? Here we have a heavyweight with dynamite in his punches and I don't remember hearing trainers cry like Freddie Roach because Tyson was hitting those mitts with all his might or are you going to tell me Pac hits harder than Tyson?

In fact some might recall, Freddie has actually held the mitts for Tyson on a training camp... He said that he had some serious power, BUT, he never reported having the mitts knocked completely off his hands... So i'm with Saddoboxer. That not only proves Pac's "knocking-mitts-off-the-hands-power" is more than Oscars, but possibly more than Tyson's as well..

Arguements over..

[XaduBoxer]

I knocked the mitts off my trainers hands as well, so that must mean I hit harder than ODLH as well. Plus, not to be a dick here, but with Roach's condition won't everything feel like it's hitting him harder now, and have a harder time holding on to the mitts?

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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No my trainers name is Jason of course he is nowhere near 50 years old and doesn't have Parkinson's disease like Roach does either.

Did your trainer Jason was also able to hold the mitts for Hoya?
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[killersheep]

Is your trainer's name Freddie Roach?

If there's one person who can gauge PAC's and Hoya's power with authority then it must be Freddie Roach...
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No my trainers name is Jason of course he is nowhere near 50 years old and doesn't have Parkinson's disease like Roach does either.

Did your trainer Jason was also able to hold the mitts for Hoya?
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Dude have you ever hit mitts before? It's actually very common for them to come off. Do you even realize how ridiculous your statements are?
Do you think is Roach is going to say "ODLH is much stronger than PAC, I expect the guy who is currently responsible for my salary to get knocked the fuck out."?

[XaduBoxer]

No my trainers name is Jason of course he is nowhere near 50 years old and doesn't have Parkinson's disease like Roach does either.

Did your trainer Jason was also able to hold the mitts for Hoya?
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Dude have you ever hit mitts before? It's actually very common for them to come off. Do you even realize how ridiculous your statements are?
Do you think is Roach is going to say "ODLH is much stronger than PAC, I expect the guy who is currently responsible for my salary to get knocked the fuck out."?

Are you aware that Roach said, he will not ask for any trainer's fee if PAC loses to Hoya?

Zero, nada, zip, nil ... trainer's fee to Roach if PAC will lose this fight...
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[killersheep]

Did your trainer Jason was also able to hold the mitts for Hoya?
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Dude have you ever hit mitts before? It's actually very common for them to come off. Do you even realize how ridiculous your statements are?
Do you think is Roach is going to say "ODLH is much stronger than PAC, I expect the guy who is currently responsible for my salary to get knocked the fuck out."?

Are you aware that Roach said, he will not ask for any trainer's fee if PAC loses to Hoya?

Zero, nada, zip, nil ... trainer's fee to Roach if PAC will lose this fight...
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Way to sidestep the topic Bout time for you to get one of your alt accounts in here eh?

[brucelee]

congrats Sadddoboxer for doing well with your arguments. whew, I'm giving you the title for being the number 1 fan of Manny Pacquaio.

Lefty is seriously ill and can't make sane arguments that's why he resorts to neg reps.

Killersheep, positive reps for keeping your cool.

[XaduBoxer]

Dude have you ever hit mitts before? It's actually very common for them to come off. Do you even realize how ridiculous your statements are?
Do you think is Roach is going to say "ODLH is much stronger than PAC, I expect the guy who is currently responsible for my salary to get knocked the fuck out."?

Are you aware that Roach said, he will not ask for any trainer's fee if PAC loses to Hoya?

Zero, nada, zip, nil ... trainer's fee to Roach if PAC will lose this fight...
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Way to sidestep the topic Bout time for you to get one of your alt accounts in here eh?

Want to get out of the heat? Go ahead the door is wide open...

I'm just responding to your previous statement about trainer's salary...

Of course, flying mitts is just an illustration... Numbed, aching and injured hands and body of the trainer are the true manifestations of the boxer's power as assessed by the trainer...
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[XaduBoxer]

Oscar send note to Manny!
Oscar De La Hoya sent a personal message to Manny Pacquiao this week. While autographing boxing gloves for the 'Dream Match' promotion, Pacman rooted deep into a large cardboard box and spotted a red glove signed in black sharpie by Oscar.

MANNY

I AM GOING TO KNOCK YOU OUT!

OSCAR

Oscar added a little smiley face.

Pacquiao looked at it, laughed and shrugged it off. "He is a great fighter, the Golden Boy," said Pacquiao. "I have been watching him since he won the gold medal at the Olympic Games. He has beaten very famous fighters. That's why defeating him will be very special and important for everyone in the Philippines."