If that woman was the gene pool, she would be in the shallow end of it.
If American voters put her in anywhere, they deserve everything they will get.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
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If that woman was the gene pool, she would be in the shallow end of it.
If American voters put her in anywhere, they deserve everything they will get.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
I'm sure like Bill Clinton, Barrack would be a cool guy to hang out with (providing we lay off the Politics)....he likes UNC Basketball as do I so there's some common ground already ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
One person I do actually hate is Al Gore, but that's a different subject for a different day.
And Kirkland, Obama said it himself, he said it in his very own words maybe even without a teleprompter :o ....he said "Energy prices will skyrocket" and what is progressive about that? The poor people are the ones having a hard time paying the electricity bills and the gas bills, what's going to happen when some poor old lady in up state New York can't pay her outrageous gas bill??? She's going to freeze to death and why??? To "Save the planet". And Kirkland EVENTUALLY Obama WILL get the blame for how he has handled things.
X, obviously you have no idea about Joe Biden either
So what about Biden? I know who he is but I haven't offered an opinion on him, I was talking about Palin, and I kind of figured I wouldn't be able to do it without getting dragged into some left vs right tit for tat thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleObviously you have no idea who Joe Biden is and he IS the Vice President....he's also a fucking moron, but he was riding Obama's coat tails so that makes it ok because Obama is perfect in every way and it's that kind of mentality that makes me wait for the day he and his administration gets SLAMMED with controversy and corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMI was talking about what she might be intending to do, not what she did do, but ok I'll bite. I'd say that someone who runs for vice president should have some ability to lead the country, wouldn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
And your remarks about hypocrisy aren't worth much. Anyone who calls Palin an idiot but supports Obama is a hypocrite? By your logic, I'm sure I can create an argument that says we're all hypocrites.
Guess what, I never said all dems were above reproach, but i knew damn well that as soon as I dared criticize brainiac Palin, you'd turn it into left vs. right. Guess what, I'd be just as horrified if she ended up running for president as a democrat, although I'm sure you'd be quite pleased. Get my drift?
I'm not a Palin fan, I don't like her all that much although I do admit she's important to the Republican Party, all I said to begin with was and I quote "The reason the Republicans love her so much is because she's hated and feared by the left" is that not a bipartisan post good sir??? Sarah Palin is a rallying cry for Republicans, she may not be the greatest BUT she's effective (moreso than anyone else it seems) in mobilizing the core of the party and given the current political landscape that is very important.
Missy, what are conservatives scared of? If it's taxes we're not scared so much as pissed off considering how such money is spent.
But your point is taken. If you like, we can talk about why the American people had no big objection to Biden, as VP, when the same cannot be said about Palin. Actually no, I don't really want to enter that debate, i just wanted to point out the obvious.
As for...
"The reason the Republicans love her so much is because she's hated and feared by the left"
It it sounds like you are saying Republicans love her because the Dems think she is a moron, and that's hardly a ringing endorsement for either Palin or the Republicans.
CGM, I just think it's ridiculous for people who support Obama (who is inexperienced) and Biden (who is a fucking moron) to call out Sarah Palin as much as they have.
As for that quote, that is MY personal take on Sarah Palin...I'm not a fan of hers politically, that may come as a shock to you, but I think she's fine as a political figurehead and someone who can rally the troops (so to speak) but I don't see her as a leader for the nation, I did however see John McCain as a leader the nation could get behind and someone with experience who could get the job done and not play favorites with either party....but alas this probably won't get appreciated for what it is and I'll eventually have to explain to Kirkland and any other Liberals out there that John McCain is a guy who can work with either party and he is a solid well respected politician...well up until Obama's media got ahold of him and tied him to W.
Here's an introduction to Joe Biden everyone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHEvuVE2MPQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-eeWow_WU
fair enough. Obama isn't perfect, years of experience is not his strength. but he does have other compensating factors that Palin does not have. Of course he is a Democrat, and that's a handicap that no amount of smarts and experience can overcome. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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non-WASP's i.e everyone not them.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleObviously you have no idea who Joe Biden is and he IS the Vice President....he's also a fucking moron, but he was riding Obama's coat tails so that makes it ok because Obama is perfect in every way and it's that kind of mentality that makes me wait for the day he and his administration gets SLAMMED with controversy and corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMI was talking about what she might be intending to do, not what she did do, but ok I'll bite. I'd say that someone who runs for vice president should have some ability to lead the country, wouldn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
And your remarks about hypocrisy aren't worth much. Anyone who calls Palin an idiot but supports Obama is a hypocrite? By your logic, I'm sure I can create an argument that says we're all hypocrites.
Guess what, I never said all dems were above reproach, but i knew damn well that as soon as I dared criticize brainiac Palin, you'd turn it into left vs. right. Guess what, I'd be just as horrified if she ended up running for president as a democrat, although I'm sure you'd be quite pleased. Get my drift?
I'm not a Palin fan, I don't like her all that much although I do admit she's important to the Republican Party, all I said to begin with was and I quote "The reason the Republicans love her so much is because she's hated and feared by the left" is that not a bipartisan post good sir??? Sarah Palin is a rallying cry for Republicans, she may not be the greatest BUT she's effective (moreso than anyone else it seems) in mobilizing the core of the party and given the current political landscape that is very important.
Missy, what are conservatives scared of? If it's taxes we're not scared so much as pissed off considering how such money is spent.
working mothers - destroy familiy values
single moms - ditto
blacks - because of pro-active laws, because they're only one or two generations from a. a lynching, b. the plantation & these negros want revenge or out white women....
etc
Missy...it would take forever for me to fix what you have "learned".
I don't care about racial/ethnic/etc minorities...and there have been a number of minorities who are Conservative and they have caught hell from the Left.
You don't have to be a registered Democrat OR Republican to be a racist/bigot or whatever.
And I don't see what's wrong in trying to promote family values.
No, fair enough, I dont even know who he is actually? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You're boned either way really...don't matter if its republicans or dems both sides say what their supporters want to hear and then go on to do whatever the fuck it is they're actually gonna do...
Sure, every one cares about family. We all have families. The problem with politicians who define themselves as being "for family values" is that usually what they are really "for" is their particular brand of morality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Would it bother you if they simply left the Family part off? I wouldn't vote for someone if I didn't believe we shared many of the same values. I can't imagine most people would either.
No, she is stupid because she is lacking in intelligence and makes the most horrendous public goofs. God knows how she is when the cameras are off. It doesn't bear thinking about. This has little to do with my political views.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChildsso she is stupid because she doesnt share your political views?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI was just feeling a bit trite. I revised my opinion to hoping that she mutates into a horse instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
I just hate stupid people in positions of power and influence. It makes a mockery of the political process. Now, Obama is an intelligent and articulate figure who carries his position quite well. It would be laughable to see Palin run for President. Not that I am that enraptured with Obama, but he has been the best of a bad bunch in a desert of US political figures.
Family is issue that transcends left or right in politics. So I am very skeptical of politicians who are big on promoting family values, cause it usually is tied closely to their religious, moral, and political beliefs. And very often those who define themselves politically in a significant way according to their family or moral values are also those who would tell others what their values should be. Draw your own conclusions about what side of the political spectrum you find people who are unduly concerned about the morality or values of others.
In answer to your question, the paragraph above describes something that I don't like, however I am not fooled by their use of the term family. They can driop their use of the word, but it wouldn't really change much. And no, I don't choose my leader according to his/her particular morality or religion or belief of what a family should be, and whether it matches mine, and I particularly oppose people who would impose their beliefs in these areas on others.
Just to make sure I am following you...Morality is not an issue you take into consideration when voting for a candidate? Really? To me the simple act of voting is in essence an effort to impose beliefs on a group. We vote for politicians that we believe share a similar ideology, in hopes they will enact laws/policy favorable to us and our belief system. From your post I believe you are speaking specifically of issues like creationism, prayer in school, gay marriage, abortion etc closely tied to the religious right. I don't really differentiate between religious or political ideology. To me there is little difference between a bible thumping southern baptist or a tree hugging secular progressive. Only opposite ends of a irrational, ignorant and uncompromising coin.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGM
Not your best work Miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesNo, she is stupid because she is lacking in intelligence and makes the most horrendous public goofs. God knows how she is when the cameras are off. It doesn't bear thinking about. This has little to do with my political views.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChildsso she is stupid because she doesnt share your political views?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles