Re: Is Manny Pacquiao Bad For Boxing?
I wouldn't say he's not known outside the boxing world. I doubt every Phillipino watches boxing religiously but damned if they don't all know who Pacman is. Those millions of people around that part of the world see the success Pac has had, and being poor in many of those regions boxing will take hold even moreso; that in itself is great for future boxing. Lots of ittle Pacs will be in the making.
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generalbulldog
So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?
Discuss.
Honestly, these are two of the stupidest questions I've read. Are you serious or are these questions some kind of backlash against the Pac fanatics?
How would boxing be better off without Manny? He is one of the marquee names in the sport, entertaining as hell, and his name is involved in the some the most desirable matchups in the foreseeable future.
So yeah, boxing would be better without Manny. it would have been better without ODLH. it would have been better without any fighter who attracts attention and excitement to the sport.
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Very much agreed on all points....
The guy is worth every dollar to see him in action, he goes all out in the ring, he is willing to fight anyone...
As for the catchweights I am not a big fan of them and wish they would not happen but as long as no title is involved and the fights are worth the price of a ticket then why not I guess...
People have to realize that Manny is a 135lb fighter that everyone is coming to him for the bouts he is not seeking them out....Why step into the lions den and allow bigger disadvantages?
cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...
Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?
Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?
even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?
The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
im waiting for the response on mr daxx questions... or else as someone just mention put on the gloves and go knock pacs ass out..
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GAME
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Very much agreed on all points....
The guy is worth every dollar to see him in action, he goes all out in the ring, he is willing to fight anyone...
As for the catchweights I am not a big fan of them and wish they would not happen but as long as no title is involved and the fights are worth the price of a ticket then why not I guess...
People have to realize that Manny is a 135lb fighter that everyone is coming to him for the bouts he is not seeking them out....Why step into the lions den and allow bigger disadvantages?
cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...
Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?
Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?
even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?
The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.
Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.
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generalbulldog
So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?
Discuss.
Honestly, these are two of the stupidest questions I've read. Are you serious or are these questions some kind of backlash against the Pac fanatics?
How would boxing be better off without Manny? He is one of the marquee names in the sport, entertaining as hell, and his name is involved in the some the most desirable matchups in the foreseeable future.
So yeah, boxing would be better without Manny. it would have been better without ODLH. it would have been better without any fighter who attracts attention and excitement to the sport.
exactly
he may as well just asked the question would boxing be better off without good boxers
This is both retarded and insane....i say we ban bulldog for the sole purpose of being a twat
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DaxxKahn
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GAME
cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...
Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?
Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?
even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?
The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.
Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.
Mate I just get the feeling that if Manny came to the ring walking on water you would make a case that the water Jesus walked on was deeper so it doesnt count....
You just will not give the man his due in any way so the debate is pointless
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Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio has greatly divided the boxing community into different factions. Those for him and against him. Many of those fans in his camp think he's the greatest thing since slice bread. And then there are those fans that just don't like him for whatever reason.
This is a serious question because of many boxing fans have called Manny Pacquiao a pussy and coward for wanting to fight Cotto at a catchweight, which would be his first. To be fair I never considered the Oscar fight a catchweight because you can't expect someone to jump 3 weight classes from 135 to fight you when you called him out and it was at the 147 ww limit. So there are endless discussions about the Pacman for or against him in every boxing forum.
So is Manny Pacquiao bad for boxing? Would boxing be better if Manny Pacquiao never picked up the sport?
Discuss.
Bless your heart.....your so ignorant! I mean really, every post you write sounds like its from an eight year old. Do you realize that if Pacquiao and Mayweather end up fighting, that it will likely sell the most PPV's in history? Do you realize how many fans Pacquiao puts in the stands? Like its bad that some like him and some dont? Thats what its all about man! He's the most entertaining boxer there is in the ring, there's always gonna be knockdowns when Paquiao's in the ring and thats exactly what boxing needs to become more popular. Do yourself a favor and go build a mud castle outside and stop embarrassing yourself on this forum!:-\
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This is a fun thread to follow lol. Granted I think GB has some dislike for Pac and i wonder if he's trying to incite a riot, but I've seen worse threads. I'm just thankful Xanexboxer isn't here clucking around like a mother hen.
It's got to be better than rehashing the old Wlad/Haye Hate Each Other; Are the Heavyweights in Trouble?; Woe Is Me Hatton Got Pummeled What Now?; and the always entertaining but redundant Mayweather is a Cock threads:lolhaha:
If GB had made a "Margarito is Great for Boxing" thread then I'd of hammered him for being a stooge.
I'm just taking the piss out of some of the posters for fun, kind of like Bilbo taking the piss out of posters by starting a thread called, "Is Shane Mosely the greatest."
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DaxxKahn
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GAME
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DaxxKahn
Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...
Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?
Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?
even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?
The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.
Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.
Mate I just get the feeling that if Manny came to the ring walking on water you would make a case that the water Jesus walked on was deeper so it doesnt count....
You just will not give the man his due in any way so the debate is pointless
Pacfans are comparing Manny to Jesus now? I knew it wouldnt be long ;D
When Manny fights a guy in his prime he may get props . He hasnt done it yet but theres a first time for everything
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generalbulldog
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LEGION
This is a fun thread to follow lol. Granted I think GB has some dislike for Pac and i wonder if he's trying to incite a riot, but I've seen worse threads. I'm just thankful Xanexboxer isn't here clucking around like a mother hen.
It's got to be better than rehashing the old Wlad/Haye Hate Each Other; Are the Heavyweights in Trouble?; Woe Is Me Hatton Got Pummeled What Now?; and the always entertaining but redundant Mayweather is a Cock threads:lolhaha:
If GB had made a "Margarito is Great for Boxing" thread then I'd of hammered him for being a stooge.
I'm just taking the piss out of some of the posters for fun, kind of like Bilbo taking the piss out of posters by starting a thread called, "Is Shane Mosely the greatest."
if this thread was created in jest then i indeed apologise.
Should of made it more clearer you were on a windup though........these pac fans take there love of him to extreme lengths and i suspect youve already 1-2 that have managed to locate your residence and will be round your house in the morning ;D;D;D
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GAME
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DaxxKahn
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GAME
cuz thats what all the greats in history have done
Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...
Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?
Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?
even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?
The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.
Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.
Agreed.
Super Featherweight
Troy Dorsey
Jeff Mayweather
Jimmi Bredhal
Giorgio Campanella
Lightweight
Jorge Paez
John John Molina
Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Jesse James Leija
Jr Welterweight
Julio Cesar Chavez
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Welterweight
Pernell Whitaker
David Kamau
Hector Camacho
Wilfredo Rivera
Julio Cesar Chavez 2
Ike Quartey
Oba Carr
Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Arturo Gatti
Manny Pacquiao
Steve Forbes
Light Middleweight
Javier Castillejo
Fernando Vargas
Yori Boy Campas
Shane Mosley 2
Ricardo Mayorga
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Middleweight
Felix Sturm
Bernard Hopkins
What a resume.
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GAME. I'm not a primarily pacfan. But I don't think Sasakul, Ledwaba, Barrera, Marquez, Diaz, Hatton were weight drained when Pac took their belts away from them. I know you're a die-hard MAB fan. But your boy got owned by pac twice. Your vindictive shitt gotta stop. Give pac some credit and start living your life.
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GAME
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DaxxKahn
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GAME
Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.
Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.
Mate I just get the feeling that if Manny came to the ring walking on water you would make a case that the water Jesus walked on was deeper so it doesnt count....
You just will not give the man his due in any way so the debate is pointless
Pacfans are comparing Manny to Jesus now? I knew it wouldnt be long ;D
When Manny fights a guy in his prime he may get props . He hasnt done it yet but theres a first time for everything
:rolleyes:
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ICB
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GAME
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DaxxKahn
Who? Who are these greats? Armstrong?, Jones? please inform us...
Who else has gone from 106lbs to fight at 142lbs?
Who else has titles in 5 weight classes at the moment and as many lineial titles? Who has claimed as many ring titles?
even if they have done one of the above who else has done all of the above?
The man has done his job and well he has nothing to prove by fighting under everyone elses terms
Oscar moved up from superfeather to middleweight and won world titles in each divison. Pac hasnt, not to mention Oscar wasnt always fighting guys on their way out.
Any guy who has moved up in weight has moved into their opponents division and thats why they get props. How can anyone get props if they are beating up on a weight drained corpse. If Manny wants to do it at all he should do it properly.
Agreed.
Super Featherweight
Troy Dorsey
Jeff Mayweather
Jimmi Bredhal
Giorgio Campanella
Lightweight
Jorge Paez
John John Molina
Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Jesse James Leija
Jr Welterweight
Julio Cesar Chavez
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Welterweight
Pernell Whitaker
David Kamau
Hector Camacho
Wilfredo Rivera
Julio Cesar Chavez 2
Ike Quartey
Oba Carr
Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Arturo Gatti
Manny Pacquiao
Steve Forbes
Light Middleweight
Javier Castillejo
Fernando Vargas
Yori Boy Campas
Shane Mosley 2
Ricardo Mayorga
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Middleweight
Felix Sturm
Bernard Hopkins
What a resume.
DLH has perhaps the best resume in boxing over the last 40-50 years just because a fighter does not have his resume does not detract from his skillset if that was the case
PBF, B-Hop, RJJ, Lennox Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Cotto, Mosley, Wright, Hatton, Williams, etc have all accomplished nothing in their careers
Re: Is Manny Pacquiao Bad For Boxing?
No, he's not bad for boxing. But he is getting seriously annoying now that he's looking to cash out as quickly and easily as possible.
I just hope nobody agrees to his stupid demands.