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Beautiful post right there!!! Way to call out those limey bastards for having double standards!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
Boxingscene.com top story "Haye outpoints Valuev in TEDIOUS FASHION"
That's all you need to know about the fight right there
You were asking for excitement, right? Who wins out of Wlad and Haye is irrelevant to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleFenster, David Haye is going to get lit up by Wladimir. Look at how Haye fought Valuev....now let us imagine Wlad in Valuev's shoes. Wlad is more skilled, more athletic, has more power, and let's not forget one of the best jabs in the history of the division and it's the great equalizer for speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Haye is in deep shit if he decides to fight Wlad. I highly recommend David hurting his back again
The fact is, with Wlad having a china-chin, being only 3 inches taller, 20lb heavier and the fact he's been KO'd by journeymen, means Haye has a better chance of sparking him, right?
So you will see a more exciting performance from Haye against a chinny guy like Wlad. It's just common sense.
...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else???
Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?
Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.
Stop acting dumb, Lyle.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see buddy....I hate to tell you but Haye is going to get all kinds of messed up vs Wladimir.
So you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterDid Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?
Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.
Stop acting dumb, Lyle.
I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.
Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times???
He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.
I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.
I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.
I think Haye KO's Wlad and I know what you think. We had a bet set for the fight first time round, when Haye broke his back :). Is it still on then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Yes of course the sig bet is still on.....what would you like yours to say?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuI think Haye KO's Wlad and I know what you think. We had a bet set for the fight first time round, when Haye broke his back :). Is it still on then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I'll tell you what if Haye beats Wlad, I will keep that sig for the rest of my days here on Saddoboxing, it will remain there forever. Not only if Haye KO's Wlad, but if Haye wins a UD, MD, SD, if Haye DRAWS with Wladimir, if Haye wins on a TD because of an accidental headbutt, if Wlad gets injured in the fight and it's a No Contest....I will have the sig you made for me on my profile FOREVER, that's how certain I am Wlad will KO Haye
Jean Marc Mormeck was only stopped by O'Neil Bell, who is a pretty big banger. And also Giacobbe Fragomeni is pretty durable, and David Haye stopped him in good fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboSo you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterDid Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?
Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.
Stop acting dumb, Lyle.
I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.
Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times???
He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.
I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.
I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.
To be honest im not that big on the David Haye, he does have many flaws. But that does make him exciting, i think he has a chance against Wladimir Klitschko, just because of Wladimir Klitschko's weak chin, but then again David Haye's chin isn't exactly solid either.
And i don't think he has any real chance against Vitali Klitschko, unless Vitali Klitschko is injured during the fight, which isn't totally out of the question.
I can't really fault David Haye for yesterday, he done what was needed. And no one would really look good against Nikolai Valuev, and he did break his power hand which didn't help matters either, its good to see a fresh exciting Heavyweight champion and one especially from Britain. But i don't see David Haye's reign lasting long.
I'd agree but I don't really see the double standard... nobody has said it was a stellar performance or that doing juuuust enough to beat Valuev has proven that Haye is the second coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleBeautiful post right there!!! Way to call out those limey bastards for having double standards!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
Boxingscene.com top story "Haye outpoints Valuev in TEDIOUS FASHION"
That's all you need to know about the fight right there
(you're welcome to quote people saying that but we both know you can't)
People have just said that he won the fight... I don't know if all of us limey bastards (I didn't expect racist comments from you... I'm genuinely shocked :o :rolleyes:) are going crazy over haye's apparently emphatic domination of a fight is in your head or if you're just inventing it because you enjoy ranting.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
:rolleyes:
I'll have to think about it Lyle. It will be a good one though mark my words ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleYes of course the sig bet is still on.....what would you like yours to say?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuI think Haye KO's Wlad and I know what you think. We had a bet set for the fight first time round, when Haye broke his back :). Is it still on then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I'll tell you what if Haye beats Wlad, I will keep that sig for the rest of my days here on Saddoboxing, it will remain there forever. Not only if Haye KO's Wlad, but if Haye wins a UD, MD, SD, if Haye DRAWS with Wladimir, if Haye wins on a TD because of an accidental headbutt, if Wlad gets injured in the fight and it's a No Contest....I will have the sig you made for me on my profile FOREVER, that's how certain I am Wlad will KO Haye
I'm allowed to call you limey bastards as my being American doesn't change my race, and limey isn't a racist term....you Brits and your PC bullcrap :vd:
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Originally Posted by BilboSo you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterDid Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?
Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.
Stop acting dumb, Lyle.
I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.
Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times???
He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.
I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.
I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.
Mormeck has been ko'd a bunch of times??? No once before, Haye also stopped the current WBC champion at 200lbs who has never been down before the Haye fight.
Haye would destroy Arreola imo, make him look silly.
Lyle... I think Ademek/ Haye would be a great fight too. I don't quite know how to call that one. I'm quite impressed with Ademek.
But in regards Hayes power...? I'm sorry Lyle, i'm calling you out on this one...
Q: How many boxers have managed to make Valuev do a silly dance?
A: ;)