Haye did what he had to do to win the fight.FACT!

[El Kabong]

That maybe so.

But 3 inches, 20lb, china-chin, questionable heart and the fact he's been ko'd by journeymen gives Haye a far greater chance of the KO.

It's impossible to not agree, right?

Fenster, David Haye is going to get lit up by Wladimir. Look at how Haye fought Valuev....now let us imagine Wlad in Valuev's shoes. Wlad is more skilled, more athletic, has more power, and let's not forget one of the best jabs in the history of the division and it's the great equalizer for speed.

Haye is in deep shit if he decides to fight Wlad. I highly recommend David hurting his back again

[Kev]

That maybe so.

But 3 inches, 20lb, china-chin, questionable heart and the fact he's been ko'd by journeymen gives Haye a far greater chance of the KO.

It's impossible to not agree, right?

Fenster, David Haye is going to get lit up by Wladimir. Look at how Haye fought Valuev....now let us imagine Wlad in Valuev's shoes. Wlad is more skilled, more athletic, has more power, and let's not forget one of the best jabs in the history of the division and it's the great equalizer for speed.

Haye is in deep shit if he decides to fight Wlad. I highly recommend David hurting his back again

I can picture exactly how a fight with Wlad would go.

Haye would come out all majestic and confident. The first round would be a feeling out, Haye would come forward, land a couple shots, and get some confidence.

At the end of the round he'd probably stand and stare at Wlad and then stride back to his corner with his shoulders and lats flaring almost as wide as his nostrils.

Then in the second round Wlad would find his rythm and start instigating the jab. Haye wouldn't be able to get inside, and would start eating shots. His offensive output would drop.

Third round Haye would already be feeling uncomfortable, he'd know his gameplan had failed and he'd cease throwing anything and just look to survive. Wlad is patient and wouldn't try to knock David out yet but would just continue with the jab, breaking Hayes spirit.

Haye would go back to his corner and make a mental note that this is the round he broke his hand in......

Fourth round. Haye lunges forward wildy with a punch that misses and ends up on the floor. He slips over a couple more times in this round as he starts to look ragged. visably wilting now he could be taken out but Wlad doesnt want to let him off so quickly and just keeps up the jab.

Fifth round. Haye is going through the motions now, trying to survive. He complains about clinches and a headbutt. Thoroughly beaten down he trudges back to his corner trailing by 4 rounds on Lederman's scorecard.

Sixth round. Haye's 'broken' hand is clearly bothering him now, and to make matters worse he damages his shoulder which effectively ruins his chances of knocking Wlad out, which WOULD have happened, had he not had the misfortune of a double injury.

Seventh round. Adam Booth tells him to give it all in this round and lay it on the line. A fired David Haye races out to the middle of the ring, but spends the next three minutes in retreat as Wlad jabs the shit out him.

After the bell rings Booth and his team are already there with the white towel, Haye is injured and cannot continue.

A completely unmarked and sweat free Wladimir wins the fight.

[Fenster]

That maybe so.

But 3 inches, 20lb, china-chin, questionable heart and the fact he's been ko'd by journeymen gives Haye a far greater chance of the KO.

It's impossible to not agree, right?

Fenster, David Haye is going to get lit up by Wladimir. Look at how Haye fought Valuev....now let us imagine Wlad in Valuev's shoes. Wlad is more skilled, more athletic, has more power, and let's not forget one of the best jabs in the history of the division and it's the great equalizer for speed.

Haye is in deep shit if he decides to fight Wlad. I highly recommend David hurting his back again

You were asking for excitement, right? Who wins out of Wlad and Haye is irrelevant to me.

The fact is, with Wlad having a china-chin, being only 3 inches taller, 20lb heavier and the fact he's been KO'd by journeymen, means Haye has a better chance of sparking him, right?

So you will see a more exciting performance from Haye against a chinny guy like Wlad. It's just common sense.

[El Kabong]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

[Fenster]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

[El Kabong]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see buddy....I hate to tell you but Haye is going to get all kinds of messed up vs Wladimir.

[rjj tszyu]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see buddy....I hate to tell you but Haye is going to get all kinds of messed up vs Wladimir.

I think Haye KO's Wlad and I know what you think. We had a bet set for the fight first time round, when Haye broke his back . Is it still on then??

[El Kabong]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see buddy....I hate to tell you but Haye is going to get all kinds of messed up vs Wladimir.

I think Haye KO's Wlad and I know what you think. We had a bet set for the fight first time round, when Haye broke his back . Is it still on then??

Yes of course the sig bet is still on.....what would you like yours to say?

I'll tell you what if Haye beats Wlad, I will keep that sig for the rest of my days here on Saddoboxing, it will remain there forever. Not only if Haye KO's Wlad, but if Haye wins a UD, MD, SD, if Haye DRAWS with Wladimir, if Haye wins on a TD because of an accidental headbutt, if Wlad gets injured in the fight and it's a No Contest....I will have the sig you made for me on my profile FOREVER, that's how certain I am Wlad will KO Haye

[Kev]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

So you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?

I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.

Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times

He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.

I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.

I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.

[ICB]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

So you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?

I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.

Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times

He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.

I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.

I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.

Jean Marc Mormeck was only stopped by O'Neil Bell, who is a pretty big banger. And also Giacobbe Fragomeni is pretty durable, and David Haye stopped him in good fashion.

To be honest im not that big on the David Haye, he does have many flaws. But that does make him exciting, i think he has a chance against Wladimir Klitschko, just because of Wladimir Klitschko's weak chin, but then again David Haye's chin isn't exactly solid either.

And i don't think he has any real chance against Vitali Klitschko, unless Vitali Klitschko is injured during the fight, which isn't totally out of the question.

I can't really fault David Haye for yesterday, he done what was needed. And no one would really look good against Nikolai Valuev, and he did break his power hand which didn't help matters either, its good to see a fresh exciting Heavyweight champion and one especially from Britain. But i don't see David Haye's reign lasting long.

[El Kabong]

I'm allowed to call you limey bastards as my being American doesn't change my race, and limey isn't a racist term....you Brits and your PC bullcrap

[skel1983]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

So you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?

I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.

Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times

He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.

I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.

I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.

Mormeck has been ko'd a bunch of times No once before, Haye also stopped the current WBC champion at 200lbs who has never been down before the Haye fight.

Haye would destroy Arreola imo, make him look silly.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Lyle... I think Ademek/ Haye would be a great fight too. I don't quite know how to call that one. I'm quite impressed with Ademek.

But in regards Hayes power...? I'm sorry Lyle, i'm calling you out on this one...
Q: How many boxers have managed to make Valuev do a silly dance?
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[Fenster]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

So you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?

I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.

Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times

He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.

I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.

I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.

OK Haye don't punch hard, he'd get beaten easily by Wlad and all that. I don't give a fuck.

I'm explaining to Lyle why Haye would be more exciting against a chinny fighter. You and Lyle don't think Haye punches very hard but i'm pretty sure Haye does, so it wont stop him trying to shatter Wlad's china-chin, hence win or lose you have a more exciting fight. Simple as.

[El Kabong]

I'm explaining to Lyle why Haye would be more exciting against a chinny fighter. You and Lyle don't think Haye punches very hard but i'm pretty sure Haye does, so it wont stop him trying to shatter Wlad's china-chin, hence win or lose you have a more exciting fight. Simple as.

....you say that now, but when Haye gets a mouthful of knuckle sandwich I'm thinking he's going to rethink trying to hit Wladimir and start thinking "I need to cover up better"