Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s next 5 fights- in no particular order!

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Originally Posted by imp

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

i think floyd should fight martinez next at 160. floyd should come in at 146 and would dominate martinez and win by late ko. easy fight for floyd. retirement money for martinez. win win situation.

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Absolutely, or Canelo at 154. @ruthless rocco They are both legacy-improving fights too, whereas taking on the Guerrero's/Garcia's/Alexander's of the world don't do anything for his legacy. Isn't it odd that he won't even answer questions about facing Martinez? He won't even consider it as an option even when Martinez has been calling him out for years.

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Martinez wont answer any questions about fighting ward.

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Here's the point. No one will blame Floyd for not going up in weight. You can't blame a guy for refusing to move up in weight if he can make his weight class safely. I wouldn't blame Sergio for not going up to fight Ward. Bottom line.

However, if Sergio wanted to improve his legacy, wins over super middleweights, even average ones, are better than wins over average middleweights.

The reason why Sergio-Ward doesn't come up as often is because Sergio isn't the premiere, top-ranked fighter in the entire world. He's just a good middleweight. The expectations are much lower for him than for Floyd and rightly so.

Also, Martinez would be a heavy underdog to Ward at 168, whereas Floyd would be the favorite against Martinez or Canelo at 154. So, it's not like Floyd would be jumping up to fight a guy where he would be the underdog. This is a fight he would be supposed to win, but it is riskier than fights against junior welterweights; there is no doubt about that.

There are multiple posters saying that Floyd would wipe the floor with Sergio Martinez. You can't argue that at the same time as saying he shouldn't face him? For example, no one is claiming at the same time that Sergio shouldn't face Ward but that he also would beat him.
@ruthless rocco hates Sergio Martinez, but even he would prefer to see Floyd beat Sergio Martinez up than see Floyd face Amir Khan or Danny Garcia. I mean come on, it's not even a question.

Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.

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And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.

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And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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Indeed but that was a time when legacy had to do with actual pugilistic endeavors and not paydays alone. Leonard came out of a 3 year hiatus for Hagler 2 divisions north. When Armstrong challenged Ross he weighed in at 133. Those days are gone my friend and when in Rome....

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.

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And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

Floyd is the gate and ppv king along with being the best fighter on the planet. He is also a natural welterweight and not a big one. Why should he even move up for Alvarez? Lalonde came down to 168 for Lenard as did Dawson for Ward and Ward cant draw worms to a shit parade.

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And Duran went up to 160 to challenge an ATG in Hagler and beat a good middleweight in Barkley.

But, I agree, there is no financial reason to face Canelo when Showtime will pay him the same amount of money to face lesser competition.

However, do we all agree that Amir Khan, Danny Garcia, and Devon Alexander are not as difficult opponents as Canelo, Trout, or Lara?

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Please see above;D

Any truth to Fat Dan saying that Mayweather v Guerrero did bad numbers? Might be the incentive for Showtime to push him to meet a Canelo etc sooner rather than later. With the five fights floating surely hes not going into a Martinez or Canelo right away otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Any truth to Fat Dan saying that Mayweather v Guerrero did bad numbers? Might be the incentive for Showtime to push him to meet a Canelo etc sooner rather than later. With the five fights floating surely hes not going into a Martinez or Canelo right away otherwise.

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If Floyd Guerrero did poor numbers and Floyd can pick who he fights then Showtime are fucked, they've signed an Alex Rodriguez contract. If Showtime can pick the fighters they should make him fight Alvarez next and Martinez after that. Floyd can potshot Alvarez all night long and win a wide decision and Martinez at 154 in his first fight back after a broken hand would be even easier.

If it's true that Showtime have lost money on the weekend fight then they stand to lose a lot more over the rest of the contract and it's likely the only way they can recoup some of it will be to slash their boxing budget. This could fuck GBP up. HBO must be wetting themselves laughing right now if the PPV numbers are indeed rubbish.

Floyd fighting outside of his weight class or comfort zone would help immeasurably with his legacy. He doesn't have to do jack but he would be doing himself a big favour.

I'm a little late on this. Curious to see who they Mayweather gets in there with this year, but I say if Pacquiao beats Rios well, then I say they choose Pac for early next May. I couldn't see anythig but Floyd countering him all night long. Mayweather must believe that he could do that.

You'd also have to think that the Canelo fight is 100% money in the bank, when ever they are ready to go, and with Canelo's age, that isn't going to change anytime soon unless Canelo needs to move to to 160.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Floyd fighting outside of his weight class or comfort zone would help immeasurably with his legacy. He doesn't have to do jack but he would be doing himself a big favour.

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Spot on. He's done it before too so he knows he can do the weight comfortably.

Canelo is a very reasonable fight for Floyd to take. It's a good fight for boxing, because if Canelo manages to beat Floyd, we have another boxing superstar to carry boxing into a post-Mayweather/Pacquaio future. I love guys like Andre Ward, but they just aren't going to carry the sport.

I'm glad this fight is being taken seriously now. If Floyd fought him just 2 short years ago, people would have shit on Floyd for picking on a young, unproven guy.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Floyd fighting outside of his weight class or comfort zone would help immeasurably with his legacy. He doesn't have to do jack but he would be doing himself a big favour.

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Spot on. He's done it before too so he knows he can do the weight comfortably.

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floyd started at 130... he has already moved up weight classes. how much bigger do you need him to get? you want to see him do like toney?

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Floyd fighting outside of his weight class or comfort zone would help immeasurably with his legacy. He doesn't have to do jack but he would be doing himself a big favour.

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Spot on. He's done it before too so he knows he can do the weight comfortably.

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floyd started at 130... he has already moved up weight classes. how much bigger do you need him to get? you want to see him do like toney?

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Wait a minute, weren't you just agreeing with me that you would like to see him fight and beat Martinez and Canelo?

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Canelo is a very reasonable fight for Floyd to take. It's a good fight for boxing, because if Canelo manages to beat Floyd, we have another boxing superstar to carry boxing into a post-Mayweather/Pacquaio future. I love guys like Andre Ward, but they just aren't going to carry the sport.

I'm glad this fight is being taken seriously now. If Floyd fought him just 2 short years ago, people would have shit on Floyd for picking on a young, unproven guy.

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Of course they would have because he was a young, unproven guy then. I had always thought him to be incredibly overrated, until he beat Austin Trout, who was coming off a thrashing of Miguel Cotto. That was a real win. He proved himself in that fight. I thought Trout was going to take that one on the cards, and I was wrong. I'm not suggesting that by beating Trout Canelo is god's gift to the junior middleweight division, but I mean up until then, I'm not even sure he had faced a true junior middleweight.