Re: Saunders has solid offer from the Kazak
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This division is just a little strange. None of the challengers want to fight the champion. Some of these challengers actually call themselves champions. When does boxing right itself? Andy Lee was the only champion willing to fight the Real one however now that he lost his "championship", the new champion is not ready for the real one. Its as if its a different sport. The old "boxing is a business" analogy does not cut shit anymore.
if golovkin and canelo are having a warm up then i wouldn't grumble at andy lee for golovkin
I believe canelo is fighting rosardo (or what ever his name is)
Yeah he's fighting either Gabe or Monroe lol because we all know the the best way to prep for an opponent is fight one of two men that he destroyed. Pathetic.
Alvarez is not going to fight Golovkin
He hasnt faced a genuine middle weight yet has he?
No and he will probably demand these 2 catch for him. I'd love to see this snake oil cart get turned over. I'd laugh for a solid week.
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As I said before, there is absolutely no reason why Canelo should fight at a catch weight. He can't make 154 anymore and hasn't been able to for a little bit so his only option is 160. If he really is preparing to fight GGG, then hopefully he doesn't ask for a catch weight for his next fight.
Re: Saunders has solid offer from the Kazak
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Saunders is an unbeaten "world" champion. A unification with Canelo would sell alright. But it's irrelevant as that wont be happening
I think Warren would take the cash and chance against Canelo much easier fight than GGG or Eubank.
Do you reckon Canelo is an easier fight than Eubank? Just curious.;D
Yes Canelo would be easier fight for Saunders as Eubank is improved and a real tested middleweight.
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As I said before, there is absolutely no reason why Canelo should fight at a catch weight. He can't make 154 anymore and hasn't been able to for a little bit so his only option is 160. If he really is preparing to fight GGG, then hopefully he doesn't ask for a catch weight for his next fight.
It’s more than that. It’s like a Collective. You have the boxing organization ordering a fight with the Real champ after the Cotto/Alvarez is concluded. In fact the fight was made with that pretext. After the fight the winner claims he's got his own weight class. Next the same Org says they will allow an optional and the fighters team now spin it as prep for the fight that should have happened already with the Real champ. They are choosing to prep for this hypothetical showdown by fighting one of two men the real deal annihilated.
How much evidence to people need? They have no intention on fighting this guy.
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Saunders is an unbeaten "world" champion. A unification with Canelo would sell alright. But it's irrelevant as that wont be happening
I think Warren would take the cash and chance against Canelo much easier fight than GGG or Eubank.
Do you reckon Canelo is an easier fight than Eubank? Just curious.;D
Yes Canelo would be easier fight for Saunders as Eubank is improved and a real tested middleweight.
Interesting. It's all about opinions, but I believe Canelo would Hammer Eubank. Yes, I'm biased because I'm not a fan of Eubank, but I believe Eubank is still very , very Raw.
He definitely has promise, is in great condition and has good stamina, but I don't think he is anywhere near the finished article.
People said if he started quicker against Saunders, it would've been a different story. I don't believe he was capable of sussing Saunders out. Even when he got going later in the fight, he was still missing with a lot of crude energy sapping wild shots.
As for Canelo, as far as I'm concerned, he is already a MW boiling down to somewhere near to LMW in order to avoid GGG . ;D
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As I said before, there is absolutely no reason why Canelo should fight at a catch weight. He can't make 154 anymore and hasn't been able to for a little bit so his only option is 160. If he really is preparing to fight GGG, then hopefully he doesn't ask for a catch weight for his next fight.
It’s more than that. It’s like a Collective. You have the boxing organization ordering a fight with the Real champ after the Cotto/Alvarez is concluded. In fact the fight was made with that pretext. After the fight the winner claims he's got his own weight class. Next the same Org says they will allow an optional and the fighters team now spin it as prep for the fight that should have happened already with the Real champ. They are choosing to prep for this hypothetical showdown by fighting one of two men the real deal annihilated.
How much evidence to people need? They have no intention on fighting this guy.
You are correct it is not so much sticking in your teeth as repeatedly finding it there and being told it's fresh. Ironically I think it actually has the potential to add to Golovkins legacy so avoided has he become. Those still asking of GGG "Who has he fought?" are beginning to sound like miners claiming that the sky is just a rumour or a subway busker who thinks he is louder than the road or train above him.
I like Saunders and I think he is entitled to an easier defense of his title then Golovkin next but then he should really grasp the nettle and step up. It's not going to get any easier anytime soon and his speed may keep him in roughly one piece until the later rounds.
Canelo is taking the Michael as did Miguel before him in putting Daddies suit and tie on and thinking that makes him the MD. Fancy dress and nothing more.
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As far as boxing skill goes Saunders is right up there with anyone GGG has fought before if not better than all of them. The worrying factor for me is his lack of power. For me he'd need to really make GGG wary of moving in to beat him and I seriously doubt he has the power to deter him in that way. It's certainly not a fight I'm opposed to though and as far as Saunders having an easier first defence? why? Champions should always fight the next best out there and if Saunders really thinks of himself as the champion then GGG is the man he needs to beat next.
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As I said before, there is absolutely no reason why Canelo should fight at a catch weight. He can't make 154 anymore and hasn't been able to for a little bit so his only option is 160. If he really is preparing to fight GGG, then hopefully he doesn't ask for a catch weight for his next fight.
It’s more than that. It’s like a Collective. You have the boxing organization ordering a fight with the Real champ after the Cotto/Alvarez is concluded. In fact the fight was made with that pretext. After the fight the winner claims he's got his own weight class. Next the same Org says they will allow an optional and the fighters team now spin it as prep for the fight that should have happened already with the Real champ. They are choosing to prep for this hypothetical showdown by fighting one of two men the real deal annihilated.
How much evidence to people need? They have no intention on fighting this guy.
You are correct it is not so much sticking in your teeth as repeatedly finding it there and being told it's fresh. Ironically I think it actually has the potential to add to Golovkins legacy so avoided has he become. Those still asking of GGG
"Who has he fought?" are beginning to sound like miners claiming that the sky is just a rumour or a subway busker who thinks he is louder than the road or train above him.
I like Saunders and I think he is entitled to an easier defense of his title then Golovkin next but then he should really grasp the nettle and step up. It's not going to get any easier anytime soon and his speed may keep him in roughly one piece until the later rounds.
Canelo is taking the Michael as did Miguel before him in putting Daddies suit and tie on and thinking that makes him the MD. Fancy dress and nothing more.
Too many metaphors in there!:p
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I hope Saunders takes the fight, and gets the money he wants. If he doesn't take the fight, especially for the money he wants, he loses anyway to public opinion. IMO. ;D
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Sanders is a tidy boxer but he doesn't even believe himself he could beat GGG, which is a terrible sign really. I'm probably going to pick against Saunders ever time he fights anyone good, not sure why I just can't get behind him. He seems to unwind and become mediocre towards the end of a fight.
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Sanders is a tidy boxer but he doesn't even believe himself he could beat GGG, which is a terrible sign really. I'm probably going to pick against Saunders ever time he fights anyone good, not sure why I just can't get behind him. He seems to unwind and become mediocre towards the end of a fight.
I think saunders is more capable of doing something in this fight than most
problem is saunders doesn't have the same confidence I do
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I hope Saunders takes the fight, and gets the money he wants. If he doesn't take the fight, especially for the money he wants, he loses anyway to public opinion. IMO. ;D
Same. Espn is reporting that its 2.2 million pounds. Thats over 3 million bucks and he will come to England.
Damn! and to boot even if he loses he still gets fights.
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Sanders is a tidy boxer but he doesn't even believe himself he could beat GGG, which is a terrible sign really. I'm probably going to pick against Saunders ever time he fights anyone good, not sure why I just can't get behind him. He seems to unwind and become mediocre towards the end of a fight.
I think saunders is more capable of doing something in this fight than most
problem is saunders doesn't have the same confidence I do
Yup. His D and movement alone gives the Kazak a completely different look. He's also a sneaky counter puncher.
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I don't see Saunders as a considerably better boxer than Martin Murray or even Gabe Rosado, and I doubt he'd take as much punishment as those guys. Doesn't have big power either, he would hold no advantage in the fight imo, just like everyone else GGG has fought so far.
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Not a better boxer than Gabe Rosado? Come on. :D
AS far as BJS-GGG - Why would he turn down two million quid? Even if he loses he can come back.
You have to take into account that Billy Joe is only 26.
He can have a few fights over the year to make that money in fights that he would start favourite. It's all very well saying it doesn't matter if he gets bashed up. But it does matter in reality. There's no guarantee a beaten fighter will get back to the top after being knocked off.
