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Re: Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?
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Miles. We had a question a few days ago. Anyone know anyone that has it. It’s now become anyone in your family. The nets been narrowed to support a losing argument. Let’s not pretend that didn’t happen.
Has the thread title changed? It is the same as at the start. The consensus is no except for Beanz who is still a likely no but went on holiday to a Corona hotel hotspot and there was no hospital or testing after despite others doing just that in his town.
No one said the threat title changed Miles. It was a separate thread. The question has changed from do you know anyone, to does anyone n your family.
I don’t buy that it was done out of idle curiosity. It was done to make it harder to say yes to continue to support a narrative that’s on Increasing shaky ground. Just my opinion of course.
No, you are being a bit cynical. I think the virus is dangerous and I believe you when you say you have heard of someone dying. I certainly don't wear a mask to look cool. I think they look silly.
I am not even talking about death but just having caught the virus. I have known of two people dying of different things in the past few weeks, but nobody even infected with Covid at its peak. I am just curious who has known somebody with it and especially in a family as you know all the ins and outs without filters. You would have to avoid them or see them hospitalized and all of that.
I think it is real and dangerous, but also manageable. The curve is ready to peak and yes it would help if people did not hang out in large groups. Go for a walk, but be safe, and never put another person at risk.
I am likely in the middle of Tito and Lyle on this. It is not the flu, but it is not the great plague either. You certainly do not want it.
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You know full well that I’ve done no tests right? Is that the point of the question?
Let’s pretend for one second that I have and shared that with you. Then what?
so you just believe what you were told? well you would have to tell me the method of your testing, then i could carry that out on every person i know & get the same results, that would be working towards actually knowing, no?
Yes. I believed the words that came out of her mouth. I believed those words because they echoed what was in the message she received. From that point going backwards, it could have been a massive web of lies, I just don’t know. I didn’t think to ask for the testing procedure that was undertaken on the basis that a stranger on the internet might not believe it.
You want to test everyone you know for a virus that a) doesn’t exist or b) isn’t that serious? Why?
Let’s assume we do all that. What next? I’m keen to know where this is going.
so you're ok with the world being shutdown & the reality of people losing their lively hoods based on beliefs? do you wear a mask when you go out? & if so why?
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Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it. The last time i have been more ill was about 6 or 7 years ago and then i ended up in the back of an Ambulance. Myself and the Mrs came back from Holiday to find one week later that the Hotel directly opposite to the one we stayed in was locked down full of people with Corona virus symptoms. They could not leave the Hotel or fly home.
All of us have had the flu several times before, and i can assure it was not the flu, whatever it was. At no point was any of our breathing bad enough to call for an ambulance but that does not mean we just had a bit of a cold either. I don't want to tempt fate or fuck about when perfectly healthy people a lot younger and fitter than me are dying alone in hospital, so I can literally say hand on heart, I do not know.
Also i want to be clear that this misguided idea about living in areas that are not so densely populated. You can not extrapolate from that some kind of theory that pretends it is safer. There are far fewer ICU beds (barely double figures for the whole of Cornwall) and critical care units, and with quite an elderly retired population the pressure on regional hospitals in rural areas is massive. That is why second home owners have been told to stay in their first homes.
Also thanks El Kabong for thinking that none of us dying proves your stupid little theory, ignoring the fact that perfectly healthy people are dying from it whilst the majority, even with pre-existing health conditions make a good recovery.
They think.
Also if you and Gandalf think that it is so likely that i and my family and loved ones would probably die if we had it, why were you both so keen to call me a scardy cat and a coward and a baby etc? :-\ ;D
The crazy thing is that i have been anything but hysterical. Not here, not in my everyday life. I have to carry on. You don't get a day off when you are a carer , You don't get classed as vulnerable by the Government even if you literally cannot get out without support to shop etc. So my Mrs does not qualify for free deliveries or any help even if i am bed bound, and yet if she had to go to hospital they would score her high enough to put someone else in an ICU bed ahead of her if numbers were tight, which they are. So yeah ...fucking lecture me about responsibility and social distancing Gladys why not?
I mean if I am ill again who is going to help the Mrs wash her one hand? something as simple as that. We have an automatic dispenser but it is virtually impossible to work up enough lather with one hand to wash off any viral traces. For the disabled this is doubly scary. Yet she isn't scared she is far braver than you will ever be. She has been in an ICU unit for months, been in a coma, had to learn how to walk, talk, eat etc so she really goes at life with no fear. I would not dare be a coward when living with someone like that.
You plum.
You have likely known about the virus since February at the latest, then got sick at the end of February/March and then only a few weeks ago were complaining about losing business because 70% of it is outdoors. I do hope you were being safe and not potentially spreading a disease that for some is dangerous by being a super spreader. Indeed, let us hope it really was only the flu.
If you knew you that hotel was a Corona one and you all had symptoms, I do not understand why you would not pursue a test or go to a hospital as you would be a risk unless you were isolating yourself completely and tracing anyone you had come across. Were you still working? Likewise, if your wife has pre-existing conditions, why would you potentially endanger her too? You saw with Johnson how it can easily develop for those who are older and not in the best of shape. Please do not take that as an attack, but more a series of questions and musings because it sounds strange.
Pull your head out of your arse and listen for once.
There is no testing in the UK unless you are so breathless you need to phone an ambulance and be admitted to a hospital.
None.
212 dead in your country and 12,000+ in mine and you are still pretending they are the same. Stupidly acting confused as to why you know nobody with it, when the minority here will be those like you. Most will know of someone. Many have reported that and you just pretended it was bullshit or ignored them.
Also there is no way I could isolate from my Mrs so your idea that I am potentially endangering her is again fucking outrageous.
And your post absolutely was a judgemental attack in which again you made a million assumptions, the main one being, that you think I am irresponsibile and reckless.
Nuts.
That is coming from you, you absolute fuck who has for weeks been castigating me for staying in and self isolating.
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Re: Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?
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I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.
Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet :-X. Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.
I believe you, but also when one says they are healthy, are they always healthy? I question that because many have conditions that they just do not know of. There are people with cancer in their bodies for more than a decade and they didn't know, there are people with heart problems that they put down to digestion issues. They never knew. Then when something else comes along, then they go. There are millions right now in America who think they are healthy, but unless they do the full checks they just do not know. Many are not even insured. Heck, my estrogen was a case in point. Not harmful, but you just do not know what is happening unless you get the data back.
Your 4 days symptoms sound like one of my panic attacks and are a sign that you need some serious rest! Don't work yourself too hard and go easy on yourself. Some have stress from not working at all, others have stress from working too much. Heck people are even killing themselves because they cannot leave the house. All sorts of strange physiological things are at work in times of immense abnormality.
Seriously Gladys?
Punch yourself in the face for your own good.
Not just moving the goalposts but smashing them up, burying them and then pretending you have never even heard of football.
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Re: Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?
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Beanz
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Gandalf
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Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it. The last time i have been more ill was about 6 or 7 years ago and then i ended up in the back of an Ambulance. Myself and the Mrs came back from Holiday to find one week later that the Hotel directly opposite to the one we stayed in was locked down full of people with Corona virus symptoms. They could not leave the Hotel or fly home.
All of us have had the flu several times before, and i can assure it was not the flu, whatever it was. At no point was any of our breathing bad enough to call for an ambulance but that does not mean we just had a bit of a cold either. I don't want to tempt fate or fuck about when perfectly healthy people a lot younger and fitter than me are dying alone in hospital, so I can literally say hand on heart, I do not know.
Also i want to be clear that this misguided idea about living in areas that are not so densely populated. You can not extrapolate from that some kind of theory that pretends it is safer. There are far fewer ICU beds (barely double figures for the whole of Cornwall) and critical care units, and with quite an elderly retired population the pressure on regional hospitals in rural areas is massive. That is why second home owners have been told to stay in their first homes.
Also thanks El Kabong for thinking that none of us dying proves your stupid little theory, ignoring the fact that perfectly healthy people are dying from it whilst the majority, even with pre-existing health conditions make a good recovery.
They think.
Also if you and Gandalf think that it is so likely that i and my family and loved ones would probably die if we had it, why were you both so keen to call me a scardy cat and a coward and a baby etc? :-\ ;D
The crazy thing is that i have been anything but hysterical. Not here, not in my everyday life. I have to carry on. You don't get a day off when you are a carer , You don't get classed as vulnerable by the Government even if you literally cannot get out without support to shop etc. So my Mrs does not qualify for free deliveries or any help even if i am bed bound, and yet if she had to go to hospital they would score her high enough to put someone else in an ICU bed ahead of her if numbers were tight, which they are. So yeah ...fucking lecture me about responsibility and social distancing Gladys why not?
I mean if I am ill again who is going to help the Mrs wash her one hand? something as simple as that. We have an automatic dispenser but it is virtually impossible to work up enough lather with one hand to wash off any viral traces. For the disabled this is doubly scary. Yet she isn't scared she is far braver than you will ever be. She has been in an ICU unit for months, been in a coma, had to learn how to walk, talk, eat etc so she really goes at life with no fear. I would not dare be a coward when living with someone like that.
You plum.
You have likely known about the virus since February at the latest, then got sick at the end of February/March and then only a few weeks ago were complaining about losing business because 70% of it is outdoors. I do hope you were being safe and not potentially spreading a disease that for some is dangerous by being a super spreader. Indeed, let us hope it really was only the flu.
If you knew you that hotel was a Corona one and you all had symptoms, I do not understand why you would not pursue a test or go to a hospital as you would be a risk unless you were isolating yourself completely and tracing anyone you had come across. Were you still working? Likewise, if your wife has pre-existing conditions, why would you potentially endanger her too? You saw with Johnson how it can easily develop for those who are older and not in the best of shape. Please do not take that as an attack, but more a series of questions and musings because it sounds strange.
Pull your head out of your arse and listen for once.
There is no testing in the UK unless you are so breathless you need to phone an ambulance and be admitted to a hospital.
None.
212 dead in your country and 12,000+ in mine and you are still pretending they are the same. Stupidly acting confused as to why you know nobody with it, when the minority here will be those like you. Most will know of someone. Many have reported that and you just pretended it was bullshit or ignored them.
Also there is no way I could isolate from my Mrs so your idea that I am potentially endangering her is again fucking outrageous.
And your post absolutely was a judgemental attack in which again you made a million assumptions, the main one being, that you think I am irresponsibile and reckless.
Nuts.
That is coming from you, you absolute fuck who has for weeks been castigating me for staying in and self isolating.
I know people from England, the US, Canada and none have had family members with it.
If she had the Corona virus she should have been in a hospital. For her own safety and also to alert authorities and potentially track anyone around you. How many people did you pass from your hotel to your home? Unless it was the flu which is more likely the case as it is common and most get it every year or two.
I asked nicely to make a Hitler video, but you have not replied so to make us even I made my own. It is very funny and shall premier it this evening.
I hope you laugh at and enjoy it. It is a sign of homage to make a satirical parody video of someone. No hometowns or family is mentioned. The funniest lines cover various characters.
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A cold is different to the flu. A cold you can work through but a flu is more severe and really knocks you back. Takes days to recover for a normal person.
As I am super human I have never had the flu but know someone in my family that has had the flu.
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Re: Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?
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Gandalf
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Beanz
Just to make it crystal clear. I have no idea if i have had the corona virus or whether my Mrs, or anyone else in our family, who has been ill over the last 6 weeks has. There is no test available until you are hospitalised by it. The last time i have been more ill was about 6 or 7 years ago and then i ended up in the back of an Ambulance. Myself and the Mrs came back from Holiday to find one week later that the Hotel directly opposite to the one we stayed in was locked down full of people with Corona virus symptoms. They could not leave the Hotel or fly home.
All of us have had the flu several times before, and i can assure it was not the flu, whatever it was. At no point was any of our breathing bad enough to call for an ambulance but that does not mean we just had a bit of a cold either. I don't want to tempt fate or fuck about when perfectly healthy people a lot younger and fitter than me are dying alone in hospital, so I can literally say hand on heart, I do not know.
Also i want to be clear that this misguided idea about living in areas that are not so densely populated. You can not extrapolate from that some kind of theory that pretends it is safer. There are far fewer ICU beds (barely double figures for the whole of Cornwall) and critical care units, and with quite an elderly retired population the pressure on regional hospitals in rural areas is massive. That is why second home owners have been told to stay in their first homes.
Also thanks El Kabong for thinking that none of us dying proves your stupid little theory, ignoring the fact that perfectly healthy people are dying from it whilst the majority, even with pre-existing health conditions make a good recovery.
They think.
Also if you and Gandalf think that it is so likely that i and my family and loved ones would probably die if we had it, why were you both so keen to call me a scardy cat and a coward and a baby etc? :-\ ;D
The crazy thing is that i have been anything but hysterical. Not here, not in my everyday life. I have to carry on. You don't get a day off when you are a carer , You don't get classed as vulnerable by the Government even if you literally cannot get out without support to shop etc. So my Mrs does not qualify for free deliveries or any help even if i am bed bound, and yet if she had to go to hospital they would score her high enough to put someone else in an ICU bed ahead of her if numbers were tight, which they are. So yeah ...fucking lecture me about responsibility and social distancing Gladys why not?
I mean if I am ill again who is going to help the Mrs wash her one hand? something as simple as that. We have an automatic dispenser but it is virtually impossible to work up enough lather with one hand to wash off any viral traces. For the disabled this is doubly scary. Yet she isn't scared she is far braver than you will ever be. She has been in an ICU unit for months, been in a coma, had to learn how to walk, talk, eat etc so she really goes at life with no fear. I would not dare be a coward when living with someone like that.
You plum.
You have likely known about the virus since February at the latest, then got sick at the end of February/March and then only a few weeks ago were complaining about losing business because 70% of it is outdoors. I do hope you were being safe and not potentially spreading a disease that for some is dangerous by being a super spreader. Indeed, let us hope it really was only the flu.
If you knew you that hotel was a Corona one and you all had symptoms, I do not understand why you would not pursue a test or go to a hospital as you would be a risk unless you were isolating yourself completely and tracing anyone you had come across. Were you still working? Likewise, if your wife has pre-existing conditions, why would you potentially endanger her too? You saw with Johnson how it can easily develop for those who are older and not in the best of shape. Please do not take that as an attack, but more a series of questions and musings because it sounds strange.
Pull your head out of your arse and listen for once.
There is no testing in the UK unless you are so breathless you need to phone an ambulance and be admitted to a hospital.
None.
212 dead in your country and 12,000+ in mine and you are still pretending they are the same. Stupidly acting confused as to why you know nobody with it, when the minority here will be those like you. Most will know of someone. Many have reported that and you just pretended it was bullshit or ignored them.
Also there is no way I could isolate from my Mrs so your idea that I am potentially endangering her is again fucking outrageous.
And your post absolutely was a judgemental attack in which again you made a million assumptions, the main one being, that you think I am irresponsibile and reckless.
Nuts.
That is coming from you, you absolute fuck who has for weeks been castigating me for staying in and self isolating.
I know people from England, the US, Canada and none have had family members with it.
If she had the Corona virus she should have been in a hospital. For her own safety and also to alert authorities and potentially track anyone around you. How many people did you pass from your hotel to your home? Unless it was the flu which is more likely the case as it is common and most get it every year or two.
I asked nicely to make a Hitler video, but you have not replied so to make us even I made my own. It is very funny and shall premier it this evening.
I hope you laugh at and enjoy it. It is a sign of homage to make a satirical parody video of someone. No hometowns or family is mentioned. The funniest lines cover various characters.
So basically what you are doing is calling everybody a liar. You not knowing anyone with the symptoms proves nothing.
And don't presume to know the slightest thing about my Mrs. You arrogant little shit. It astounds me the new depths you are willing to plumb everyday in order to again make it again about you being the hero who has planned everything and through his own responsibility is some untouchable God, and everyone else is a feckless, selfish loser who deserves anything that happens to them.
Again you are not listening. We had no symptoms on leaving the hotel or traveling back home in February and the Hotel opposite was not quarantined until a week after we left. Then they announced that on the news. Are we supposed to have then used a time machine and went back to retrace our steps and announced to someone that after we arrive home we may be about to get ill so we better self isolate in a building full of hundreds of people instead of at home with just two of us?
They are not tracking anyone. They are not testing anyone unless you are rushed to hospital on deaths door. Do you think she fancies going to hospital only to be told sorry the ICU bed that would have saved your life has been reserved for someone who could not take part in the Paralympics, because Gladys urged everyone to vote for a Government that has like him, been backing Eugenics based policies for years?
There are no interim procedures set up to test people who may have symptoms. Doctors surgeries and consultations happen over the phone and they just tell you to stay home and self isolate. And once again we both know what the flu is like and that does not feel like this or drag on for weeks.
You are full on mental.
You don't need to ask my permission to copy my parody video from years ago, and you could never ever hope to possibly make us even. I am not the nasty fucker that you are. Never have been and never will be. Look at the way you talk to others in this thread like some pompous sociopath, dismissing posters as though they are all as mentally fragile as you, Jordy and Stefan the unhinged fucking loser.
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TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
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You didn't think to go to hospital for something that could kill someone with existing conditions and could easily deteriorate? You sound so cautious most of the time yet here sound reckless. 142 have been confirmed there so your wife could have been too. She would surely be a priority with a long medical history. It sounds like the flu, but if you think it was Covid and everyone with existing conditions in your family did not need a doctor or hospital then who am I to interfere with this new health revelation? It really is your life, but despite your hostility I wish you no harm. BTW where was the hotel and this virus hotspot?
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You didn't think to go to hospital for something that could kill someone with existing conditions and could easily deteriorate? You sound so cautious most of the time yet here sound reckless. 142 have been confirmed there so your wife could have been too. She would surely be a priority with a long medical history. It sounds like the flu, but if you think it was Covid and everyone with existing conditions in your family did not need a doctor or hospital then who am I to interfere with this new health revelation? It really is your life, but despite your hostility I wish you no harm. BTW where was the hotel and this virus hotspot?
You are fortunate i am even speaking to you. You are a human rat. Nothing more. But i am not like you so i will give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe there is a shred of humanity deep inside you fighting to survive ;D
We were in Tenerife Costa Adeje https://www.express.co.uk/travel/art...islands-latest
I even posted here while on the holiday.
Again you refuse to listen. It has always been that this place is your soapbox. Your ranting ground. You seem to think the worst of most of the other posters. It is nuts.
Neither of us are hypochondriacs like you. Neither are we cautious and timid and meek like you. We take risks. I take risks just like most people I know, my job is not a secure one. That is the reality of working in the arts being self employed and running your own businesses also. That does not mean i am reckless. I am used to working from home but until very recently i found that impossible with being so ill, and she was far less affected. It does not seem to hit women as hard.
The amazing thing is how without me even relaying any of the symptoms we have, and continue to have, you still insist it sounds like flu.:rolleyes: Anyone would thing you have already made you mind up :-\
And again no..she is not a priority at all. I have been telling you this for years and you did not give a shit about all those people like her swept under the carpet by the twats you urged everyone to support. She scores so highly she would not get a bed in ICU.
Fuck me. It is like pulling teeth.
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TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
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What belief is it you think I’m trying to uphold Lyle?
You fully buy Beanz's story no questions asked
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I thought and said as much right at the start of this. Not as serious as flu. Interim flu I think I called it. I now think I was wrong in doing so. Stupid in fact. It very quickly became far more serious.
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My interest was and is only in understanding this idea that it’s no more serious than flu, yet needing some form of proof that someone might have had it.
Well this pandemic is fucking up everyday lives and allowing various federal and local governments to trample on the rights of citizens so when one person claims many people in their family have had it and 0 have been hospitalized and 0 have been tested and from what we have been repeatedly told by this person there ARE serious comorbidities at play here.....yeah I find THAT odd.
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Then dismissing this claim because there was no test. All the while quoting CDC numbers on flu that are estimated because millions upon millions of people never get tested.
Not "no test" but "no TESTS" plural...none of the people who claimed to have experienced it had a test OR went to hospital. Seems odd what with it being a "super serious deadly disease" does it not? You're telling me that you think they had this and had 0 respiratory distress? Or No respiratory distress that required a visit to a doctor? None of that brings up questions in your mind?
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Seems odd to me.
Oh, well right now I'm suffering from Pneumonic Plague I think....but I've not been to doctor or hospital or been tested....but it doesn't feel like the flu so obviously it's the pnuemonic plague. No real medication they can give you either you know it's just sunshine and rest you know....just gotta muscle through it right?
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A bit weird having you talk about me as though i am not here so just to make it clear El Kabong.
The tests you think are so readily available here, are about as real as your Presidents claim that he is the one who has been taking this seriously all along, and that anyone who says otherwise is fake news.
They are not available unless you are at deaths door putting it frankly.
The gap between being perfectly healthy and on Death's Door is a pretty big one and in no way proves your stupid suggestion that is all or nothing. Minor or no symptoms or Death. That is how reductive, binary and fucking stupid all your arguments are.
Neither of us has Asthma, Chronic lung disease, Diabetes, Kidney or Liver Disease of the kind that would make us more vulnerable to respiratory failure. So no of course we have not been to hospital and no the Doctors is not just open for business as usual.
It is mental how much you are willing to assume and how little you are willing to believe. Is that because you are a compulsive liar yourself or something? Or are you just paranoid? I honestly don't know where your insane suspicion of everything comes from. Are you doing a cocktail of Ketamine and Acid like Trump everyday or something? I can't keep up with your mental gymnastics.
It is amazing that you would think posters here, not just myself would be willing to makes stuff up purely in order to do what? Prove you wrong? Bloody hell man what is wrong with you?
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A bit weird having you talk about me as though i am not here so just to make it clear El Kabong.
Well Memphis was the one who asked the questions and so I responded to him. I didn't know you wanted to be CC'd in my response. My apologies.
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The tests you think are so readily available here, are about as real as your Presidents claim that he is the one who has been taking this seriously all along, and that anyone who says otherwise is fake news.
Did I say they were "readily available"? Also if they AREN'T "readily available" then how do we have anything close to an accurate count of who has this virus?
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They are not available unless you are at deaths door putting it frankly.
The gap between being perfectly healthy and on Death's Door is a pretty big one and in no way proves your stupid suggestion that is all or nothing. Minor or no symptoms or Death. That is how reductive, binary and fucking stupid all your arguments are.
Why would they bother testing people at death's door? Wouldn't you test prior to that to see what they have in order to treat it? Does that not make more sense?
I didn't say there were "no minor symptons" I saw Idris Elba and he claims he had it and tested positive for it and he sounded absolutely normal. Do I find that odd? Yes, yes I do. Do I think he's lying, not necessarily...I just find it odd that Elba apparently had it and had no symptoms, Chris Cuomo has it and sounds normal as usual.....seems odd to me.
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Neither of us has Asthma, Chronic lung disease, Diabetes, Kidney or Liver Disease of the kind that would make us more vulnerable to respiratory failure. So no of course we have not been to hospital and no the Doctors is not just open for business as usual.
If you say so. I find it pretty incredible for someone afflicted with so many other ailments to not have been in respiratory distress due to such a serious disease. Kind of seems odd is all. Doesn't mean it can't be true, just seems odd. Seems less likely than "we got hammered by this disease and had to seek medical help"....no medicines? Just vitamins and sunshine? Yeah, seems odd.
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It is mental how much you are willing to assume and how little you are willing to believe. Is that because you are a compulsive liar yourself or something? Or are you just paranoid? I honestly don't know where your insane suspicion of everything comes from. Are you doing a cocktail of Ketamine and Acid like Trump everyday or something? I can't keep up with your mental gymnastics.
OK, if you say so
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It is amazing that you would think posters here, not just myself would be willing to makes stuff up purely in order to do what? Prove you wrong? Bloody hell man what is wrong with you?
No, not "posters here", just you.
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Odd?
Yes you are obstinate and odd.
We don't have an accurate count of who has this virus.
Fucking hell man we have all been saying this for months. Where have you been? Cloud Cuckoo land?
How many have Americans have to die before you wake up and give a shit? How man Brits? I honestly do not think you care one jot either way from the stupidity and arrogance that runs through your posts.
They do not even have enough test to test front line health workers. What part of that is so hard for you to understand? Our Government is shite. They are a useless rabble and you like Gandalf have been praising them to the rafters just like you have been silent on Trump and pretending that he is also doing a good job.... while thousands die.
And you think you are both Patriots who love their country? Do you fuck.
There is no medical cure for this disease. There are a very limited amount of ICU beds here. So unless you are fighting for breath the responsible thing to do is stay the fuck away from them, so others who need them can have them. That might seem a bit like being a Commie to you, but thankfully we do not all think like you do.
Do you want me to describe every symptom of something none of us has had a test to diagnose?
Why? so you can belittle us or pretend to be some kind of virologist ?
It would achieve nothing and just confirm your own deluded fantasies that this is all a hoax with anyone claiming to be ill labeled a bad actor, just so you can say you were right.
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TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?
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Lyle too many quotes to requote so in summary. Yes, if beanz says he has had or does have it I’ve no problem with that. Nor would I if you or anyone else said it. End analysis. I don’t require any further information or have any obligations either way. He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care.
The absence of testing, hospitalisation or anything else doesn’t make them special. It makes them typical of the vast majority of cases right?
If you say you’ve got plague, you’ve got plague. I hope you feel better soon.
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He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care..
Ok
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Amazing story. 106 year old Briit Connie Tichen survives and recovers from Coronavirus
A woman aged 106 is believed to be the oldest Briton to have survived coronavirus.
Connie Titchen has been discharged from Birmingham’s City Hospital after beating the deadly respiratory illness caused by the virus, which older people are more at risk of developing complications from.
The great-grandmother from Birmingham, who lived through both world wars, was given a clean bill of health after having the virus for three weeks.
She said: “I feel very lucky that I’ve fought off this virus. I can’t wait to see my family.”
Granddaughter Alex Jones said Titchen has enjoyed an active life and enjoys cycling, dancing and playing golf.
“She has always cooked for herself too, although she likes a cheeky McDonald’s every now and then. I haven’t told her they are closed.
“I think the secret of her old age is that she is physically active and very independent....
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oldest-coronavirus-survivor-britain-125247183.html
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Lyle too many quotes to requote so in summary. Yes, if beanz says he has had or does have it I’ve no problem with that. Nor would I if you or anyone else said it. End analysis. I don’t require any further information or have any obligations either way. He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care.
The absence of testing, hospitalisation or anything else doesn’t make them special. It makes them typical of the vast majority of cases right?
If you say you’ve got plague, you’ve got plague. I hope you feel better soon.
The only problem with Beanz story is his history of telling lies. He flips from being very ill to being healthy and also from having no mental issues to having Asperger's. That is where he is tricky and people raise their eyebrows.
He has been posting for weeks, supposedly from home in self isolation attacking Boris for not following protocol, never sick like this before and posting as normal fighting day in day out. Not a word of it. Zilch. He was more busy trying to fight with me as you will know as you sent me a pm on March 23rd. Surely you would think 'I am fucked, I need a break from this'. Maybe true, maybe not. But I always have my doubts with the Beaner especially if there are kids with histories of pneumonia and a wife with epilepsy and him with heart disease and so on. No hospital check for something unlike and worse than the flu? It is not as though several weeks ago the beds were full. You would at least think 'I know this is bad and I know of that hotel and other countries, I will get expert advice'.
Maybe all true, but one has the right to be sceptical. I can show you scars to prove the things I have been through. Maybe Beanz could do a lung CT, I mean there could be damage, for some it spontaneously returns and he can spread it or make others sick. It is your civic duty too.
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Amazing story. 106 year old Briit Connie Tichen survives and recovers from Coronavirus
A woman aged 106 is believed to be the oldest Briton to have survived
coronavirus.
Connie Titchen has been discharged from Birmingham’s City Hospital after beating the deadly respiratory illness caused by the virus, which older people are more at risk of developing complications from.
The great-grandmother from Birmingham, who lived through both world wars, was given a clean bill of health after having the virus for three weeks.
She said: “I feel very lucky that I’ve fought off this virus. I can’t wait to see my family.”
Granddaughter Alex Jones said Titchen has enjoyed an active life and enjoys cycling, dancing and playing golf.
“She has always cooked for herself too, although she likes a cheeky McDonald’s every now and then. I haven’t told her they are closed.
“I think the secret of her old age is that she is physically active and very independent....
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oldest-coronavirus-survivor-britain-125247183.html
So you're telling me that a 106 year old can go to hospital and be diagnosed?
:scratchchin: :headscratch:
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The thing with distrustful people is that they are very often liars themselves. It is almost the hallmark that seals your posts Gladys.
You keep telling us you are going to leave and that you have been we working hard when it turns out you do half days, or that you know what is like for everyone else in lockdown when I reality you and your entire country is out voting.
The same with mentally fragile lanky twats who walk around armed with anti-rape spray and then call over people cowards. Projection.
I have never said I have heart disease, or any of the crap you just make up. I have a slightly leaky heart valve but that is very common in perfectly healthy people. The immune system implications of ankylosing spondylitis and psoriatic arthritis is more relevant and probably why Wally got hit hard.
Yes my Mrs is epileptic and has very complrx care needs and my grandson has had pnemonia but that doesn't mean you get given a hospital check every time you are ill.
And make your mind up. One minute I am too honest for telling you about aspergers, and yet despite since then, you and 5 or 6 posters repeatedly using it against me in the most disgusting way repeatedly, you then have the outright cheek to act surprised that I don't share even more about my life with you everyday.
You and your mates really are a despicable bunch of bastards when I think about it like that.
You are so detached from the everyday realities of normal people you are in no position to lecture people on their civil duty.
You are a joke.
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You are the joke, Beanz. Your life story is like cheddar cheese. You did not even go to hospital with a disease that has the potential to get much worse despite initial symptoms. You didn't say a single word until a thread finally popped up where you could unleash the revelation. Why not a month ago to warn others here? To help? To inform? To guide? You were too busy arguing about nothing on here. Your story just does not hold up. You told nobody on here, you did not go to hopital, yet everyone had it and many with underlying conditions. Pneumonia and then Corona? Why would you not check?
You can deflect and call me a liar all you like, but I can back up anything I say. When I mention estrogen I can show you the numbers on a chart in a language you do not understand, my scars, even my work which is there on my computer, it is all verifiable. There are no lies. Don't deflect.
With you it all gets murkier. So you had something worse than the flu caught in Spain and nobody bothered with the hospital or got really sick. Sounds like the flu or somebody wants more attention. I even make a Hitler vid and you bump your own as you cannot bear it. So childish. There will be a series. Maybe next will be the Corona saga.
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Amazing story. 106 year old Briit Connie Tichen survives and recovers from Coronavirus
A woman aged 106 is believed to be the oldest Briton to have survived
coronavirus.
Connie Titchen has been discharged from Birmingham’s City Hospital after beating the deadly respiratory illness caused by the virus, which older people are more at risk of developing complications from.
The great-grandmother from Birmingham, who lived through both world wars, was given a clean bill of health after having the virus for three weeks.
She said: “I feel very lucky that I’ve fought off this virus. I can’t wait to see my family.”
Granddaughter Alex Jones said Titchen has enjoyed an active life and enjoys cycling, dancing and playing golf.
“She has always cooked for herself too, although she likes a cheeky McDonald’s every now and then. I haven’t told her they are closed.
“I think the secret of her old age is that she is physically active and very independent....
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oldest-coronavirus-survivor-britain-125247183.html
So you're telling me that a 106 year old can go to hospital and be diagnosed?
:scratchchin: :headscratch:
Then there are all those dying at home because they refused to even go to a hospital. Beanz could have had the virus a long time ago and got checked when the hospitals were not busy so it would not have been a healthcare strain. Was he isolating from the start of March? Had he spread it to others and potentially killed them? Did he alert the authorities? Did he even have the virus? Nobody will ever know and maybe never have known had I not started this particular thread. Interesting how it all comes out in a Gandalf thread.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...virus-outbreak
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Liverpool against Atletico Madrid was on March 11th and I was shocked that the game was even going ahead as things were messy here and I saw it was getting messy there and of course in Spain. Yet you must have been sick, had just been to Spain, and said nothing at all Beanz? Why the silence?
I am just trying to gauge the absolute silence until the revelations in this thread. Do you not see how wild it sounds? To say something a month ago would make sense, but now? And to have had no treatment and knowing the potential risks? Surely you would at least....check. :-\
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TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?
your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one
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i would like to ask beanz & spicoli, if they had never heard of covid 19 would they both just assume they had a severe case of influenza, pneumonia, a really bad cold or something similar? both never visited the doctors i think & i think spicoli continued to work around others. what date did you recover beanz?
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i would like to ask beanz & spicoli, if they had never heard of covid 19 would they both just assume they had a severe case of influenza, pneumonia, a really bad cold or something similar? both never visited the doctors i think & i think spicoli continued to work around others. what date did you recover beanz?
Ever the inquisitor eh. Who said I assumed I had Covid in the first place? Simply pointed out a timeline, an experience and now I'm here trying to enjoy a night off but here you come playing the jolly inspector Cluso :scratchchin:.
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i would like to ask beanz & spicoli, if they had never heard of covid 19 would they both just assume they had a severe case of influenza, pneumonia, a really bad cold or something similar? both never visited the doctors i think & i think spicoli continued to work around others. what date did you recover beanz?
Ever the inquisitor eh. Who said I assumed I had Covid in the first place? Simply pointed out a timeline, an experience and now I'm here trying to enjoy a night off but here you come playing the jolly inspector Cluso :scratchchin:.
i didn't say you said you had it, but didn't beanz say he did? i said if you hadn't heard of covid 19 would you just have assumed your illness to be influenza or something similar. that is what you did yeh? you didn't get a test yeh? didn't visit a doctor yeh? kept working around others yeh? did you mention to your colleagues that your illness felt much worse than a usual cold or flu? if i had a cold like that i probably would have chosen to stay at home & recover, hope you are feeling better now. you don't have to respond, no pressure, take the night off, i'm more of an austin powers, yeh baby
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TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?
your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one
I’m not aware of ever claiming that my belief was ‘proof’. Where and when did that happen?
Would the same rules apply to anything else? I’ve never broken my leg. I’m aware that other people have but I don’t have ‘proof’.
You’re quit right. I’ve never taken a test.
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TIC
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Memphis
TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?
your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one
I’m not aware of ever claiming that my belief was ‘proof’. Where and when did that happen?
Would the same rules apply to anything else? I’ve never broken my leg. I’m aware that other people have but I don’t have ‘proof’.
You’re quit right. I’ve never taken a test.
i never said you claimed that, i'm just stating what is true & that you don't know, you only believe. you could test bones though to see how they break & if you really wanted to go to extremes you could break your leg to test it but this is not about bones, this is about proving something you believe to be real so we can both know that it is
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Lyle too many quotes to requote so in summary. Yes, if beanz says he has had or does have it I’ve no problem with that. Nor would I if you or anyone else said it. End analysis. I don’t require any further information or have any obligations either way. He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care.
The absence of testing, hospitalisation or anything else doesn’t make them special. It makes them typical of the vast majority of cases right?
If you say you’ve got plague, you’ve got plague. I hope you feel better soon.
The only problem with Beanz story is
That it’s beanz story?
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Lyle too many quotes to requote so in summary. Yes, if beanz says he has had or does have it I’ve no problem with that. Nor would I if you or anyone else said it. End analysis. I don’t require any further information or have any obligations either way. He might be wrong, might be bullshitting. Either way I don’t care.
The absence of testing, hospitalisation or anything else doesn’t make them special. It makes them typical of the vast majority of cases right?
If you say you’ve got plague, you’ve got plague. I hope you feel better soon.
The only problem with Beanz story is
That it’s beanz story?
it is a good story
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Memphis
TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?
your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one
I’m not aware of ever claiming that my belief was ‘proof’. Where and when did that happen?
Would the same rules apply to anything else? I’ve never broken my leg. I’m aware that other people have but I don’t have ‘proof’.
You’re quit right. I’ve never taken a test.
i never said you claimed that, i'm just stating what is true & that you don't know, you only believe. you could test bones though to see how they break & if you really wanted to go to extremes you could break your leg to test it but this is not about bones, this is about proving something you believe to be real so we can both know that it is
So this whole time has been about proving something I’d already confirmed? I feel used.
Are there any illnesses you do acknowledge without having ‘proof’?
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Memphis
TIC I’m going to assume that the decision to shut the world down wasn’t based solely on my fourth hand experience. I shared that experience prior to the need to have documented proof of a diagnosis and a personally developed testing plan. Truth be told I had no idea it would come back to haunt me.
I’ve said many times over that the socioeconomic fall out will be huge. I have total sympathy for anyone affected be that medically or financially or any other way possible. On a personal note the world closing down is a minor inconvenience. For others it will be huge.
No I don’t wear a mask. I don’t have an issue with maintaining social distancing and should I get attacked by a suicide cougher, I doubt a mask is going to save me.
So what happens after you’ve tested everyone you know?
you believe covid 19 is real, i am just asking you to prove it, so i know it is real. there must be a test i can perform that will tell me if someone has it or not right? or is it only the special tests carried out by the authorities that can do that? this is your belief, i'm just asking you to prove it's real. do you think anyone has ever been misdiagnosed for something or medical errors have ever occurred? that never happens, yeh? but we should all just trust what is being said now yeh? you'd have to give me a test that will prove it's real because i can't just take your word, if your test proves it's real i would then know it is, as would you, rather than just believing
Yes I believe it’s real. No I don’t believe there is a test that YOU can can do. I may be wrong. Yes I’m sure people get misdiagnosed and errors occur. No we don’t need to just trust all that’s said. What would you require from my test that differs from the one that the authorities give?
your belief is not proof. what is the process the authorities use? i thought you hadn't taken a test, i could be mistaken but please inform me of their process if you have actually had one
I’m not aware of ever claiming that my belief was ‘proof’. Where and when did that happen?
Would the same rules apply to anything else? I’ve never broken my leg. I’m aware that other people have but I don’t have ‘proof’.
You’re quit right. I’ve never taken a test.
i never said you claimed that, i'm just stating what is true & that you don't know, you only believe. you could test bones though to see how they break & if you really wanted to go to extremes you could break your leg to test it but this is not about bones, this is about proving something you believe to be real so we can both know that it is
So this whole time has been about proving something I’d already confirmed? I feel used.
Are there any illnesses you do acknowledge without having ‘proof’?
i already knew that you didn't know, you wanted to continue, i'm just pointing out that decisions are being made on something that has never been proven to you. i acknowledge that people get sick, the causes can vary widely & in some cases are up for debate
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Re: Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?
I’ll try again. Are there any illnesses you do acknowledge without having proof.
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Re: Has anybody in your family had the Corona virus?
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I’ll try again. Are there any illnesses you do acknowledge without having proof.
i thought it was perfectly clear. cause & effect. i acknowledge the effects of being sick. the causes of those effects can vary widely & in some cases the causes to those effects are up for debate