George Floyd murdered by cops

Newark

No arrests, minimal damage. Black city with a Black Mayor. Anger expressed in a peaceful way not met with force.

Again way down the news agenda.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/n...rge-floyd.html

A lot of white people looting and in Minneapolis you have meat heads firing non-lethal rounds at people just standing at their porch

https://twitter.com/Trini6819Irvin/s...18657353400320

Yep. Bang on. Camden New Jersey a 99% black city has had zero problems. white racists and white supremacists have been infiltrating these protests to try to make the protesters look bad.

Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

Bang on

i went to see what was going on at a covid 19 rally a few days ago, the moment they thought 200 people were outside the parliament house, they warned fines would be issued if we didn't move on. but no issues with fifteen hundred people for a blm protest. it so easy to see through the bullshit

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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The murder happened, but we just do not know if it was racial considering their personal history. Would you have a personal history with a black person if you were racist? It is on the process to determine what the motivations were.

I am no side here, but just saying 'Maybe racial, but maybe not racially motivated'. I do not know and I think that is the most honest stance one can have.

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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The murder happened, but we just do not know if it was racial considering their personal history. Would you have a personal history with a black person if you were racist? It is on the process to determine what the motivations were.

I am no side here, but just saying 'Maybe racial, but maybe not racially motivated'. I do not know and I think that is the most honest stance one can have.

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can you prove to me it's real

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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We have also seen you defend the police leading brick throwing Muslims to peaceful Tommy Robinson supporters and have been far more vocal on this issue than yet another example of a young girl raped by men of different races in the UK, but seen herself arrested.

For sure there is institutionalized racism and unfortunately I consider the views of people like you part of that problem too. We should not treat any group differently in the eyes of the law and as seen with grooming that indeed does happen and continues to happen.

There are racist officers and elements in systems, but my personal stance is nobody should be treated differently within the legal system.

I am not particularly racist, beyond accepting that there are scientifically supported group differences which you yourself agree exist, so please pack in the racist nonsense.

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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The murder happened, but we just do not know if it was racial considering their personal history. Would you have a personal history with a black person if you were racist? It is on the process to determine what the motivations were.

I am no side here, but just saying 'Maybe racial, but maybe not racially motivated'. I do not know and I think that is the most honest stance one can have.

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All I have is the existing footage. For that I am taking a leap and assuming he was killed.

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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The murder happened, but we just do not know if it was racial considering their personal history. Would you have a personal history with a black person if you were racist? It is on the process to determine what the motivations were.

I am no side here, but just saying 'Maybe racial, but maybe not racially motivated'. I do not know and I think that is the most honest stance one can have.

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All I have is the existing footage. For that I am taking a leap and assuming he was killed.

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that is honest, just pointing out that we don't know the murder happened. i have seen footage of leprechauns, doesn't mean i know they are real. there is so much wrong with the scene & footage

The way that cop has one hand in his pocket says a lot. I am currently avoiding the news for a while. There is a lack of humanity abound at the moment. Enough to go around for everyone. It’s very disappointing plus going from three or whatever months of twenty four seven wuhan virus coverage to this shit it’s like wtf. Go to work today see smashed windows at the place I get my coffee literally a half a block from where I work. As I was leaving at 5 it was starting to pick up again. Burning historic churches, lovely. Sunday I was supposed to volunteer at a food drive. The last two times I went cars were waiting for hours to get a load of food, got the call it was cancelled to do the riots. I started swearing as the organizer who called me told me it was cancelled. They only have two or three weeks left and this cancellation day may not be able to be made up. Believe it or not it’s actually hard to volunteer at these places. They have a waiting list of volunteers. Anyway it’s just what it is now, just gotta roll with it

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The way that cop has one hand in his pocket says a lot. I am currently avoiding the news for a while. There is a lack of humanity abound at the moment. Enough to go around for everyone. It’s very disappointing plus going from three or whatever months of twenty four seven wuhan virus coverage to this shit it’s like wtf. Go to work today see smashed windows at the place I get my coffee literally a half a block from where I work. As I was leaving at 5 it was starting to pick up again. Burning historic churches, lovely. Sunday I was supposed to volunteer at a food drive. The last two times I went cars were waiting for hours to get a load of food, got the call it was cancelled to do the riots. I started swearing as the organizer who called me told me it was cancelled. They only have two or three weeks left and this cancellation day may not be able to be made up. Believe it or not it’s actually hard to volunteer at these places. They have a waiting list of volunteers. Anyway it’s just what it is now, just gotta roll with it

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if you look at any one bit of the footage look at the emf guys. they are armed & wearing vests & don't follow protocol. did you see anyone check for a pulse prior to them arriving?

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The way that cop has one hand in his pocket says a lot. I am currently avoiding the news for a while. There is a lack of humanity abound at the moment. Enough to go around for everyone. It’s very disappointing plus going from three or whatever months of twenty four seven wuhan virus coverage to this shit it’s like wtf. Go to work today see smashed windows at the place I get my coffee literally a half a block from where I work. As I was leaving at 5 it was starting to pick up again. Burning historic churches, lovely. Sunday I was supposed to volunteer at a food drive. The last two times I went cars were waiting for hours to get a load of food, got the call it was cancelled to do the riots. I started swearing as the organizer who called me told me it was cancelled. They only have two or three weeks left and this cancellation day may not be able to be made up. Believe it or not it’s actually hard to volunteer at these places. They have a waiting list of volunteers. Anyway it’s just what it is now, just gotta roll with it

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if you look at any one bit of the footage look at the emf guys. they are armed & wearing vests & don't follow protocol. did you see anyone check for a pulse prior to them arriving?

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Dude I’ll be honest I just saw the knee to the neck and the cop nonchalantly putting his hands in his pocket. It looked like a take down pin to me that should have been stopped the moment the dude was under control. I’m going by what I saw, I didn’t see any video of pulse checking or cpr, having done take downs and witnessing them I believe it was real. I didn’t read the coroner report as I have decided to shut this shit off for a bit. I’m seeing the riots around here that’s more than enough. Fuck I’d take a vacation right now if it were possible. My wife’s company put her on paid furlough due to wuhan, wtf, why didn’t I get that.

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The way that cop has one hand in his pocket says a lot. I am currently avoiding the news for a while. There is a lack of humanity abound at the moment. Enough to go around for everyone. It’s very disappointing plus going from three or whatever months of twenty four seven wuhan virus coverage to this shit it’s like wtf. Go to work today see smashed windows at the place I get my coffee literally a half a block from where I work. As I was leaving at 5 it was starting to pick up again. Burning historic churches, lovely. Sunday I was supposed to volunteer at a food drive. The last two times I went cars were waiting for hours to get a load of food, got the call it was cancelled to do the riots. I started swearing as the organizer who called me told me it was cancelled. They only have two or three weeks left and this cancellation day may not be able to be made up. Believe it or not it’s actually hard to volunteer at these places. They have a waiting list of volunteers. Anyway it’s just what it is now, just gotta roll with it

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if you look at any one bit of the footage look at the emf guys. they are armed & wearing vests & don't follow protocol. did you see anyone check for a pulse prior to them arriving?

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Dude I’ll be honest I just saw the knee to the neck and the cop nonchalantly putting his hands in his pocket. It looked like a take down pin to me that should have been stopped the moment the dude was under control. I’m going by what I saw, I didn’t see any video of pulse checking or cpr, having done take downs and witnessing them I believe it was real. I didn’t read the coroner report as I have decided to shut this shit off for a bit. I’m seeing the riots around here that’s more than enough. Fuck I’d take a vacation right now if it were possible. My wife’s company put her on paid furlough due to wuhan, wtf, why didn’t I get that.

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i'm good with that, i will say that i have seen many movie fight scenes that look real but that is not proof that they are

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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The murder happened, but we just do not know if it was racial considering their personal history. Would you have a personal history with a black person if you were racist? It is on the process to determine what the motivations were.

I am no side here, but just saying 'Maybe racial, but maybe not racially motivated'. I do not know and I think that is the most honest stance one can have.

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Stupidest Question of 2020.

Yeah, you might have one, a very, very abusive one.

these rioters don't care about grandma

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Anyone who thinks that institutionalized racism does not exist is only kidding themselves. I have worked with Police as a prosecution case worker and law clerk in the past, that i would not sit and have a beer with, because they were such racist twats, and that is here in the UK. It is rife, and ignorant people do not like to be confronted with the brutal consequences of their own arrogant refusal to grow up and change. I have seen it from both sides, at demonstrations and protests were both Police plants and tabloid shit stirrers have tried to incite violence and kettle people into alleys full of counter protestors or waiting police with batons, and where thugs have spooked coppers horses or lobbed a brick before disappearing into another group and changing their shirts.


The fact that George Floyds killers were willing to be so blatant and carry out a state sponsored execution in front of a crowd is sickening. And yet look here at so many trying to pretend that it had nothing to do with race, and insisting still that the benefit of the doubt, which is never extended to black people and other minorities, must be given to these cowardly fuckers hiding behind a uniform?

And then to rub salt into the wound they insist that they are failing to condemn the unforgivable when they see it because they are worried about law and order and criminality? are they fuck. It is all about wanting to be on the right side and nothing to do with decency or just acting like a fucking human being for once.

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The murder happened, but we just do not know if it was racial considering their personal history. Would you have a personal history with a black person if you were racist? It is on the process to determine what the motivations were.

I am no side here, but just saying 'Maybe racial, but maybe not racially motivated'. I do not know and I think that is the most honest stance one can have.

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Stupidest Question of 2020.

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Is it that stupid? Isn't a more likely option that he didn't like him and thus killed him? Only a suggestion of course which is all that the racial angle is. I mean if some black person killed my cat and I decided to deal with them myself then I would not have done it because they were black.

wheres this guys video to the rioters titofan?
https://youtu.be/zfVT7wdxyUQ

Mayweather is allegedly paying foŕ the funeral.

Floyd Mayweather will pay for George Floyd's funeral services

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp

Wonder if Mayweather has also offered to pay for the guys funeral who was killed defending his store?

If they treated Derick Chauvin just like they treated Mohamed Noor, Minneapolis and other cities wouldn't be out of control, businesses would still be standing, and mostly operational right now. That's how you know that George Floyd's death was a racial killing, and Derick Chauvin was being protected by his fellow anti-Black racists in Minneapolis injustice system.

All they had to do is arrest the other cops and charge all of them with first degree murder. It’s that simple but white supremacy hates taking L’s so they rather let the country burn than charge those cops.

Further proof that you can’t put a price tag on white supremacy. They will destroy the world before they give it up. For them there is no purpose to life without white supremacy and privilege.

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If they treated Derick Chauvin just like they treated Mohamed Noor, Minneapolis and other cities wouldn't be out of control, businesses would still be standing, and mostly operational right now. That's how you know that George Floyd's death was a racial killing, and Derick Chauvin was being protected by his fellow anti-Black racists in Minneapolis injustice system.

All they had to do is arrest the other cops and charge all of them with first degree murder. It’s that simple but white supremacy hates taking L’s so they rather let the country burn than charge those cops.

Further proof that you can’t put a price tag on white supremacy. They will destroy the world before they give it up. For them there is no purpose to life without white supremacy and privilege.

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How have they not treated Chauvin like Noor? Also in this case who is "they" exactly? Do you know who the leaders in Minneapolis are? Please list them.

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Well first off, a riot and practically country turning upside down wasn't needed for white people (Or any boot licking, ass kissing blk Keisha Bottoms) to charge Noor. Second Noor was the first police officer in Minneapolis of any race or ethnicity, found guilty of a crime for an on-duty police shooting.

Witnesses: Neighbours said that before the gunfire they heard what sounded like Damond banging on the police car. Presumably she was trying to get their attention.

Video: none.

Criminal charges:

“MURDER – 3RD DEGREE – PERPETRATING EMINENTLY DANGEROUS ACT AND EVINCING DEPRAVED MIND”
“MANSLAUGHTER – 2ND DEGREE – CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE CREATING UNREASONABLE RISK”

Noor was fired. And all that was done without video evidence.

Where as in Minneapolis in 2015 Jamar Clark, an unarmed Black man, was shot in the head by a White police officer and died. Witnesses said Clark was on the ground in handcuffs. Police said Clark was reaching for an officer’s gun. The state police looked into it and agreed with the city police. The officers involved were not charged with a crime.

Noor’s case was handled differently from the start. The police union did not stand up for him. And the White press demonized him instead of his victim. They did not even try to blame the victim (“If only she hadn’t …”). They also noted his religion (Muslim) – something they rarely if ever do when killer cops are Christian. And Blue Lives Matter – where were they?

“I feared for my life” is the standard excuse police use for gunning down Black men. It works even when said Black man is unarmed. But it does not seem to work when gunning down White women.

Verdict: On April 30th 2019 Noor was found guilty of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter and got 12 years.

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Well the person Noor shot was the person who called 911 so there is a difference right off the bat and it ain't just skin color. Damond's hand/finger prints weren't found on Noor's vehicle by the by.
Noor had a bodycam and it was turned off. That he's Muslim was brought up due to people getting a bit hysterical and assuming he was a terrorist.

Just for the record the "white supremacists" in these cases are DEMOCRATS. but it's ok I know you're not American and you're not interested in any of the politics here in the States bar your typical parroting of "White supremacist, White supremacy, systemic racism" etc etc etc.

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Well the person Noor shot was the person who called 911 so there is a difference right off the bat and it ain't just skin color. Damond's hand/finger prints weren't found on Noor's vehicle by the by.

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RIP. Bless her unsuspecting Aussie heart.

Let Milo and ’em March 4 her. I have no black tears to shed for Becky because I have 2 conserve them for the blacks that have been and will be killed by white pigs.

But let this be a lesson. You just can’t sneak up on certain Negros in a dark alley at midnight with loud noises and fireworks going off in the background. Especially ones who come from war torn areas.

As we know the police officer was a black man and Muslim? Yeah he was f*cked from the start. They already set up the cop up to get deep fried. Better believe those Somali applications went straight to the bottom of the pile.

The press not only went through his record as a police officer, as they should, but they even went through his divorce documents and family court records.

But whites wont protest against the police, even if the victim was 1 of their own.

Funny thing is I bet anything when they got the call, they assumed a black guy had broken in. It’s dark. They see someone fumbling around the garage assuming it’s a black guy n shoot 1st b4 assessing anything.

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Well the person Noor shot was the person who called 911 so there is a difference right off the bat and it ain't just skin color. Damond's hand/finger prints weren't found on Noor's vehicle by the by.

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RIP. Bless her unsuspecting Aussie heart.

Let Milo and ’em March 4 her. I have no black tears to shed for Becky because I have 2 conserve them for the blacks that have been and will be killed by white pigs.

But let this be a lesson. You just can’t sneak up on certain Negros in a dark alley at midnight with loud noises and fireworks going off in the background. Especially ones who come from war torn areas.

As we know the police officer was a black man and Muslim? Yeah he was f*cked from the start. They already set up the cop up to get deep fried. Better believe those Somali applications went straight to the bottom of the pile.

The press not only went through his record as a police officer, as they should, but they even went through his divorce documents and family court records.

But whites wont protest against the police, even if the victim was 1 of their own.

Funny thing is I bet anything when they got the call, they assumed a black guy had broken in. It’s dark. They see someone fumbling around the garage assuming it’s a black guy n shoot 1st b4 assessing anything.

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Tales from a broken mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2MRaKZeFAw

I don’t think many will deny there are racial problems in the US. There is plenty of room for improvement in many systems here. Having said that 19 unarmed white people were shot by the cops last year, 9 blacks. I can’t think of anyone who defended the actions of psycho cop and his crew. There is something odd going on though. A week ago it was unpatriotic to go outside and risk spreading the virus according to the NYT. Now they are singing a different tune. Something beyond the norm is up. We should all just shut up and smoke our legal weed

I may go to Seattle pick up some watches

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynorth...ting-riot/amp/

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I don’t think many will deny there are racial problems in the US. There is plenty of room for improvement in many systems here. Having said that 19 unarmed white people were shot by the cops last year, 9 blacks. I can’t think of anyone who defended the actions of psycho cop and his crew. There is something odd going on though. A week ago it was unpatriotic to go outside and risk spreading the virus according to the NYT. Now they are singing a different tune. Something beyond the norm is up. We should all just shut up and smoke our legal weed

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Then you have Beanz saying why doesn't Trump say black lives matter? They want it to be racial. I happen to think all lives matter and like you point out it goes under the radar when it is particular groups. Same in the UK. Beanz is obsessed with Nazi's, but you have 19000 kids a year raped by gangs of minorities and you are a problem if you speak out and say this is way out of proportion considering the demographics of these groups. Surely people can see that when a minority group carries out the majority of violent crime, then you cannot plead racism indefinitely. There comes a point when a group has to say 'We have a problem and we are part of the problem too'.

All this race, race, race, and blame Trump. What has Trump got to do with it?

Just for perspective.
In 2019, there were 41 unarmed people that were shot by the police. Only 9 were black, 19 were white. That is according to the Washington Post. The majority of all people shot by police in the US are white.
If you think that only people of color are subjected to the thrill and excitement of no knock raids that hit the wrong address, you are delusional. This technique was developed by cops to take advantage of asset forfeiture laws; a little research will reveal how many affluent white folks have lost their lives in this manner. Cops are greedy and sometimes not so smart.
If you think that, should Denilson and I hit the West Valley Detention Center at the same time, my experience will be more pleasant than his, that the sheriff's would treat me better, you are clueless.
We do have a police issue in this country; a bunch of bullies have basically been given privileged person status to do as they please. And they take full advantage of it. I'm not getting my information from propaganda pamphlets trying to manipulate your emotions and make you believe their version of truth.
I was in my yard one day, watching the cop parked across the street; he parked there for hours every day to watch me. I heard several gunshots from a few blocks away. After a minute the cop said over his PA "We just shot so and so (a friend of mine)and you're next." They treat everybody the same.

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I don’t think many will deny there are racial problems in the US. There is plenty of room for improvement in many systems here. Having said that 19 unarmed white people were shot by the cops last year, 9 blacks. I can’t think of anyone who defended the actions of psycho cop and his crew. There is something odd going on though. A week ago it was unpatriotic to go outside and risk spreading the virus according to the NYT. Now they are singing a different tune. Something beyond the norm is up. We should all just shut up and smoke our legal weed

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Then you have Beanz saying why doesn't Trump say black lives matter? They want it to be racial. I happen to think all lives matter and like you point out it goes under the radar when it is particular groups. Same in the UK. Beanz is obsessed with Nazi's, but you have 19000 kids a year raped by gangs of minorities and you are a problem if you speak out and say this is way out of proportion considering the demographics of these groups. Surely people can see that when a minority group carries out the majority of violent crime, then you cannot plead racism indefinitely. There comes a point when a group has to say 'We have a problem and we are part of the problem too'.

All this race, race, race, and blame Trump. What has Trump got to do with it?

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BLM started with good ideas but it’s become hijacked. I love to see protests, stand up for your rights. Get rid of dirty scumbag cops. For those of you who don’t know Minnesota has been run by liberals, shit they voted Al Franken as senator. So is this an evil conservative thing? Why hasn’t the local government cleaned up the police force? That is what I mean by plenty of blame to go around.

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Just for perspective.
In 2019, there were 41 unarmed people that were shot by the police. Only 9 were black, 19 were white. That is according to the Washington Post. The majority of all people shot by police in the US are white.
If you think that only people of color are subjected to the thrill and excitement of no knock raids that hit the wrong address, you are delusional. This technique was developed by cops to take advantage of asset forfeiture laws; a little research will reveal how many affluent white folks have lost their lives in this manner. Cops are greedy and sometimes not so smart.
If you think that, should Denilson and I hit the West Valley Detention Center at the same time, my experience will be more pleasant than his, that the sheriff's would treat me better, you are clueless.
We do have a police issue in this country; a bunch of bullies have basically been given privileged person status to do as they please. And they take full advantage of it. I'm not getting my information from propaganda pamphlets trying to manipulate your emotions and make you believe their version of truth.
I was in my yard one day, watching the cop parked across the street; he parked there for hours every day to watch me. I heard several gunshots from a few blocks away. After a minute the cop said over his PA "We just shot so and so (a friend of mine)and you're next." They treat everybody the same.

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Well said.

@greynotsoold this is only meant for you:

you say.....

9 black, 19 white

But The White, non-Hispanic/Latino population makes up 61.3% of the nation's total

and the Black pop makes up an only 12.7% of the population.

There are 5 times more whites in America than Blacks.

So if 9 blacks were shot, you'd expect roughly 5 times that number of whites to be shot, about 45. Yet only 19 were shot.

Therefore FAR MORE BLACKS ARE SHOT IN TERMS OF THEIR SLICE OF THE POPULATION.

You probably lost Gandalf on that one, NotSaving. He only likes skewed numbers that falsely support his point.

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@greynotsoold this is only meant for you:

you say.....

9 black, 19 white

But The White, non-Hispanic/Latino population makes up 61.3% of the nation's total

and the Black pop makes up an only 12.7% of the population.

There are 5 times more whites in America than Blacks.

So if 9 blacks were shot, you'd expect roughly 5 times that number of whites to be shot, about 45. Yet only 19 were shot.

Therefore FAR MORE BLACKS ARE SHOT IN TERMS OF THEIR SLICE OF THE POPULATION.

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Black people do carry out the majority of all violent crime despite being 16% of the populace too. Where is the rioting when they are shooting each other down in Chicago daily? Why not riot over other cases? Why not because of those other whites? Those other blacks? The timing is what matters and it is being used politically.

Corona + Riots in an election year where the opponent has Alzheimer's? Are you kidding me? A wrong carried out by an individual does not merit burning down a city. That is terrorism.

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You probably lost Gandalf on that one, NotSaving. He only likes skewed numbers that falsely support his point.

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No, because Brock is skewing the numbers there by basing it on population which is a misnomer. Less white people are involved in violent crime than black people by a very significant degree. Thus you cannot use population as a metric. You have to use those involved in the violent crime as a metric instead and by doing that then you see there is no mass agenda against blacks. How do you explain police brutality against whites if it is all racism? It isn't, it is typically just heavy handed police behavior against whoever is in their sight. You are on this racist crusade, but you have not provided any evidence that this was because of racism and furthermore the guy died from a heart attack while high. He was treated badly, but there is likely more to it than just 'racism' and that is why we have a trial.

The response has been hysterical and I don't mean 'funny'. The way it is being orchestrated makes me very curious considering the last 4 years and how every trick has been tried and now it has ended up with the torching of cities. It is a very strange response and I am not sure what they are hoping to get beyond a free TV. I mean Trump has been more than fair with his comments about the tragic situation.

Perhaps I shouldn’t brought up any numbers. I was just pointing out innocent whites have and do get killed at the hands of police. That was not meant to justify anything just making a point. I think racial profiling goes on, I think there are racist cops. I think their is a lot inequality in the US and the world at large, certainly race is part of that but in all honesty I think the bigger inequality is class. Race is good to use to distract from that. One of the founders of BLM has spoken of such things and how BLM was politically manipulated to go after the right. Do you think a rich black guy deals with the bullshit those living high crime areas deal with? Do you think the white guy living in a trailer park getting his SSDI checks is covered in privilege. Yes there are problems. I know police abuse exists I’ve experienced it and statistically a minority is more likely to experience it.

I still say these riots are not a proper way to deal with this. They are making the issue worse. There are plenty of good cops, when I was 8 I got hit by a car and cop performed cpr on me until the medics arrived. I tend to get negative on cops but I need to look at the whole picture.

Meanwhile, people continue to die including this man who did not need to die at the hands of domestic terrorists on a looting spree.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...rdered-looters