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...you have doubts about YOUR BOY? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Fine buddy, you don't have to carry my sig forever....we can negotiate, after all you're going to be the one that has to have it on your profile anyway. In case you haven't noticed, I am not worried.
I know the answer!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
A: Valuev has never fought a legitimate proven HEAVYWEIGHT power puncher, so 1 Haye the cruiserweight power puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
Notice how I haven't asked what you want me to put as my sig!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle...you have doubts about YOUR BOY? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Fine buddy, you don't have to carry my sig forever....we can negotiate, after all you're going to be the one that has to have it on your profile anyway. In case you haven't noticed, I am not worried.
It doesn't matter I think between Haye's "broken hand" ;) and Ruiz's stitches and Wlad having 2 mandatories coming up, you'll have plenty of time to figure out what you want put in there.
As for my part, I don't care Wlad has Eddie Chambers (KO win for Wlad), Alex Povetkin (KO win for Wlad)....I'm wondering how Haye will handle John Ruiz
But look at the guys Valuev has fought though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
An almost 50 year old Evander Holyfield - who most felt beat Valuev
An old mediocre John Ruiz - who everyone felt beat Valuev first time around
An awful Sergei Lyakhovich who just switched off
Ruslan Chagaev who beat him handily
Larry Donald?
Clifford Ettiene?
Monte Barrett
Francois Bergeron
His resume is frankly appalling, he's fought maybe 4 fighters in his whole career who wern't awful and you could argue he lost to all of them.
None of them are punchers, when was the last time Ruiz, Holyfield, Chagev etc knocked out ANY decent name opponent?
Haye's performance was embarrassing imo, he did nothing against arguably the most limited fighter in any weight class.
Roy Jones could move up now and pitch a shutout against Valuev.
Haye just managed to take advantage of the fact that he got to Valuev before any top 10 heavyweight did. A decent heavyweight would demolish Valuev.
Boooo Lyle :rolleyes: Bad answer.
ANY Heavyweight has enough power to hurt someone if they commit to it.
Case in point Jameel Mcline put Samuel Peter on his arse a number of times when Vitali or Wladimir couldn't ;)
P.S Bil, i'm talking about power. Not resume... Again (as ever), your twisting the argument in your favour.
KO win for Haye!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
OK Haye don't punch hard, he'd get beaten easily by Wlad and all that. I don't give a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboSo you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterDid Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?
Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.
Stop acting dumb, Lyle.
I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.
Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times???
He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.
I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.
I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.
I'm explaining to Lyle why Haye would be more exciting against a chinny fighter. You and Lyle don't think Haye punches very hard but i'm pretty sure Haye does, so it wont stop him trying to shatter Wlad's china-chin, hence win or lose you have a more exciting fight. Simple as.
....you say that now, but when Haye gets a mouthful of knuckle sandwich I'm thinking he's going to rethink trying to hit Wladimir and start thinking "I need to cover up better"Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Or he might think "I need to get to that china-chin quick before I eat another knuckle sandwich".. so either way it will be a more exciting performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle....you say that now, but when Haye gets a mouthful of knuckle sandwich I'm thinking he's going to rethink trying to hit Wladimir and start thinking "I need to cover up better"Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
There's no way Junior will go anywhere near him after seeing what he did to Valuev in the last round. After he got repeatedly flattened then knocked out in two rounds by a pro-celebrity golfer there's no way he'll want to fight Haye. It'll be his giant-headed co-laboratory creation Vitali who fights Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Kirkland, so you think Valuev is on par with the Klitschko's?
As hard as this may be to believe, he isn't acting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterDid Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?
Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.
Stop acting dumb, Lyle.
I'm just enjoying watching you in a panic at the prospect of the objects of your man-love crushes getting flattened by Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle