Haye did what he had to do to win the fight.FACT!

[El Kabong]

I'll have to think about it Lyle. It will be a good one though mark my words

...you have doubts about YOUR BOY?

Fine buddy, you don't have to carry my sig forever....we can negotiate, after all you're going to be the one that has to have it on your profile anyway. In case you haven't noticed, I am not worried.

[rjj tszyu]

Lyle... I think Ademek/ Haye would be a great fight too. I don't quite know how to call that one. I'm quite impressed with Ademek.

But in regards Hayes power...? I'm sorry Lyle, i'm calling you out on this one...
Q: How many boxers have managed to make Valuev do a silly dance?
A:

I know the answer!!

[El Kabong]

Lyle... I think Ademek/ Haye would be a great fight too. I don't quite know how to call that one. I'm quite impressed with Ademek.

But in regards Hayes power...? I'm sorry Lyle, i'm calling you out on this one...
Q: How many boxers have managed to make Valuev do a silly dance?
A:

A: Valuev has never fought a legitimate proven HEAVYWEIGHT power puncher, so 1 Haye the cruiserweight power puncher.

[rjj tszyu]

I'll have to think about it Lyle. It will be a good one though mark my words

...you have doubts about YOUR BOY?

Fine buddy, you don't have to carry my sig forever....we can negotiate, after all you're going to be the one that has to have it on your profile anyway. In case you haven't noticed, I am not worried.

Notice how I haven't asked what you want me to put as my sig!

[El Kabong]

It doesn't matter I think between Haye's "broken hand" and Ruiz's stitches and Wlad having 2 mandatories coming up, you'll have plenty of time to figure out what you want put in there.

As for my part, I don't care Wlad has Eddie Chambers (KO win for Wlad), Alex Povetkin (KO win for Wlad)....I'm wondering how Haye will handle John Ruiz

[Kev]

Lyle... I think Ademek/ Haye would be a great fight too. I don't quite know how to call that one. I'm quite impressed with Ademek.

But in regards Hayes power...? I'm sorry Lyle, i'm calling you out on this one...
Q: How many boxers have managed to make Valuev do a silly dance?
A:

But look at the guys Valuev has fought though!

An almost 50 year old Evander Holyfield - who most felt beat Valuev
An old mediocre John Ruiz - who everyone felt beat Valuev first time around
An awful Sergei Lyakhovich who just switched off
Ruslan Chagaev who beat him handily
Larry Donald?
Clifford Ettiene?
Monte Barrett
Francois Bergeron

His resume is frankly appalling, he's fought maybe 4 fighters in his whole career who wern't awful and you could argue he lost to all of them.

None of them are punchers, when was the last time Ruiz, Holyfield, Chagev etc knocked out ANY decent name opponent?

Haye's performance was embarrassing imo, he did nothing against arguably the most limited fighter in any weight class.

Roy Jones could move up now and pitch a shutout against Valuev.

Haye just managed to take advantage of the fact that he got to Valuev before any top 10 heavyweight did. A decent heavyweight would demolish Valuev.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Boooo Lyle Bad answer.

ANY Heavyweight has enough power to hurt someone if they commit to it.

Case in point Jameel Mcline put Samuel Peter on his arse a number of times when Vitali or Wladimir couldn't







P.S Bil, i'm talking about power. Not resume... Again (as ever), your twisting the argument in your favour.

[rjj tszyu]

It doesn't matter I think between Haye's "broken hand" and Ruiz's stitches and Wlad having 2 mandatories coming up, you'll have plenty of time to figure out what you want put in there.

As for my part, I don't care Wlad has Eddie Chambers (KO win for Wlad), Alex Povetkin (KO win for Wlad)....I'm wondering how Haye will handle John Ruiz

KO win for Haye!

[Fenster]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

So you don't see a fight between Haye and Wlad going exactly the same way as Wlad vs Chagaev, Wlad vs Brock, Wlad vs Ibragimov or Wlad vs Rahman?

I see NOTHING in Haye to suggest anyting other than a routine 8 round jab and dismantle job for Wladimir.

Ok Haye can bang a bit, AT CRUISER against GLASS JAWED world champs, havn't Enzo and Jean Marc been sparked a bunch of times

He hasn't proven world class power at heavyweight, Monte Barret routinely gets blown out quicker than Haye managed.

I imagine Arreola, both Klitschko's, Solis, and maybe even Dimitresko all punch harder than Haye.

I'd love to see Haye in with Thomas Adamek, because I think Adamek would smoke him.

OK Haye don't punch hard, he'd get beaten easily by Wlad and all that. I don't give a fuck.

I'm explaining to Lyle why Haye would be more exciting against a chinny fighter. You and Lyle don't think Haye punches very hard but i'm pretty sure Haye does, so it wont stop him trying to shatter Wlad's china-chin, hence win or lose you have a more exciting fight. Simple as.

[El Kabong]

I'm explaining to Lyle why Haye would be more exciting against a chinny fighter. You and Lyle don't think Haye punches very hard but i'm pretty sure Haye does, so it wont stop him trying to shatter Wlad's china-chin, hence win or lose you have a more exciting fight. Simple as.

....you say that now, but when Haye gets a mouthful of knuckle sandwich I'm thinking he's going to rethink trying to hit Wladimir and start thinking "I need to cover up better"

[Fenster]

I'm explaining to Lyle why Haye would be more exciting against a chinny fighter. You and Lyle don't think Haye punches very hard but i'm pretty sure Haye does, so it wont stop him trying to shatter Wlad's china-chin, hence win or lose you have a more exciting fight. Simple as.

....you say that now, but when Haye gets a mouthful of knuckle sandwich I'm thinking he's going to rethink trying to hit Wladimir and start thinking "I need to cover up better"

Or he might think "I need to get to that china-chin quick before I eat another knuckle sandwich".. so either way it will be a more exciting performance.

[Kirkland Laing]

Look what Wlad did to the only other guy to beat Valuev... haye is in serious trouble...

Wlad made it no secret that he wasn't afraid to use his superior skills, size, strength and power to emphatically beat down the smaller chageav from the opening bell...

Make no mistake... Wlad will be all over haye like a fly on shit, just like chageav.

There's no way Junior will go anywhere near him after seeing what he did to Valuev in the last round. After he got repeatedly flattened then knocked out in two rounds by a pro-celebrity golfer there's no way he'll want to fight Haye. It'll be his giant-headed co-laboratory creation Vitali who fights Haye.

[El Kabong]

Kirkland, so you think Valuev is on par with the Klitschko's?

[Kirkland Laing]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

As hard as this may be to believe, he isn't acting.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland, so you think Valuev is on par with the Klitschko's?

I'm just enjoying watching you in a panic at the prospect of the objects of your man-love crushes getting flattened by Haye.