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I see your point completly. In regards to being a massive fan. That is to say of his boxing talent in the ring , as a boxing fan, I am too; but I am no fan of his hand picked approach to securing wins by other means.
Theres also no excuse available to take boxing down a notch and rip off all fans of the greatest sport what they as the financial supporters deserve.
Did I miss something here? I thought the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation collapsed because one of them wanted to go on vacation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The Re-Re-Evaluation of Pacquiao is a disappointing one The man ruined one of the most anticipated fights ever in Boxing with his refusal to test.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
http://tinyurl.com/2acwjcrQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerDid I miss something here? I thought the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation collapsed because one of them wanted to go on vacation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe Re-Re-Evaluation of Pacquiao is a disappointing one The man ruined one of the most anticipated fights ever in Boxing with his refusal to test.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This is ridiculous. You make it sound like you saw him stick a needle labled steroids in his arm. You dont live with Pacquiao, train with him, eat with him ect... Your painting a label over him as fact and you know nothing more than anyone else about his personal life. The fact that Manny doesnt want to take random blood testing prooves nothing. Who likes getting a big gauge needle stuck in their arm when they dont have to anyways? Before you paint Manny Pacquiao as a PED using cheater you need to get some proof because your instincts are useless as wet toilet paper.:rolleyes:
Fuck me, what happened to VD?
Pac fan? What's going on fella? This is weired.
He might have witnessed Pac used peds. After all he was a massive Pacquiao fan. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This is ridiculous. You make it sound like you saw him stick a needle labled steroids in his arm. You dont live with Pacquiao, train with him, eat with him ect... Your painting a label over him as fact and you know nothing more than anyone else about his personal life. The fact that Manny doesnt want to take random blood testing prooves nothing. Who likes getting a big gauge needle stuck in their arm when they dont have to anyways? Before you paint Manny Pacquiao as a PED using cheater you need to get some proof because your instincts are useless as wet toilet paper.:rolleyes:
Keyword there is second. There would never of been a second anything if Pac would of took the offer when it was originally proposed. But he didn't. He decided to hold out for.........nothing. The fucking idiot excepted the same original offer. So really what was the point of those 8 months in between? It wasn't for more money. Or some other perk. It was for one reason. And one reason only. To clean the illegal, cheating drugs out of his system.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerDid I miss something here? I thought the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation collapsed because one of them wanted to go on vacation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe Re-Re-Evaluation of Pacquiao is a disappointing one The man ruined one of the most anticipated fights ever in Boxing with his refusal to test.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
That's cuz it is a fact. It's simple common sense. What do you guys have against thinking? I don't doubt you ain't the brightest around. But you can't be this stupid. Think. That's all I ask of you. Just think. The man doesn't take the fight cuz he dislikes big gauge needles in his arm (so he says). Dislike is so much he leaves 40 million on the table. But 8 months later all of a sudden he's ok with it. No problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This is ridiculous. You make it sound like you saw him stick a needle labled steroids in his arm. You dont live with Pacquiao, train with him, eat with him ect... Your painting a label over him as fact and you know nothing more than anyone else about his personal life. The fact that Manny doesnt want to take random blood testing prooves nothing. Who likes getting a big gauge needle stuck in their arm when they dont have to anyways? Before you paint Manny Pacquiao as a PED using cheater you need to get some proof because your instincts are useless as wet toilet paper.:rolleyes:
when he finds out he isnt in your personal p4p rankings anymore i think he will be devastatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
it might bring an end to his carear
Look at the thread start date. He's been aware he's no longer on my list. It ruined his day when he found outQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44when he finds out he isnt in your personal p4p rankings anymore i think he will be devastatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
it might bring an end to his carear
im supprised he still decided to carry on fightingQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseLook at the thread start date. He's been aware he's no longer on my list. It ruined his day when he found outQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44when he finds out he isnt in your personal p4p rankings anymore i think he will be devastatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
it might bring an end to his carear
do you still think hes a roider?
Then, I don't see any reason for Mayweather to go on vacation because this will be easy money. Right? Not unless Floyd thinks Manny is still as good 'without the roids'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseKeyword there is second. There would never of been a second anything if Pac would of took the offer when it was originally proposed. But he didn't. He decided to hold out for.........nothing. The fucking idiot excepted the same original offer. So really what was the point of those 8 months in between? It wasn't for more money. Or some other perk. It was for one reason. And one reason only. To clean the illegal, cheating drugs out of his system.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerDid I miss something here? I thought the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation collapsed because one of them wanted to go on vacation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe Re-Re-Evaluation of Pacquiao is a disappointing one The man ruined one of the most anticipated fights ever in Boxing with his refusal to test.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
That's cuz it is a fact. It's simple common sense. What do you guys have against thinking? I don't doubt you ain't the brightest around. But you can't be this stupid. Think. That's all I ask of you. Just think. The man doesn't take the fight cuz he dislikes big gauge needles in his arm (so he says). Dislike is so much he leaves 40 million on the table. But 8 months later all of a sudden he's ok with it. No problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This is ridiculous. You make it sound like you saw him stick a needle labled steroids in his arm. You dont live with Pacquiao, train with him, eat with him ect... Your painting a label over him as fact and you know nothing more than anyone else about his personal life. The fact that Manny doesnt want to take random blood testing prooves nothing. Who likes getting a big gauge needle stuck in their arm when they dont have to anyways? Before you paint Manny Pacquiao as a PED using cheater you need to get some proof because your instincts are useless as wet toilet paper.:rolleyes:
Never once claimed Mayweather was blameless in this fight not happening. He deserves 20% of the blame for this fiasco. Even though I have my doubts Pacquiao actually agreed to the testing the second time around, Mayweather should of publicly called his bluff and took the fight. I understand Mayweather maybe not wanting to agree at that particular moment due to his uncle/trainer legal troubles. And his uncertainty and potential absence. But Mayweather speaks to much nonsense for him to be able to get a full pass. So 20% of the blame is his. The other 80% is all PacdruggieQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerThen, I don't see any reason for Mayweather to go on vacation because this will be easy money. Right? Not unless Floyd thinks Manny is still as good 'without the roids'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseKeyword there is second. There would never of been a second anything if Pac would of took the offer when it was originally proposed. But he didn't. He decided to hold out for.........nothing. The fucking idiot excepted the same original offer. So really what was the point of those 8 months in between? It wasn't for more money. Or some other perk. It was for one reason. And one reason only. To clean the illegal, cheating drugs out of his system.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerDid I miss something here? I thought the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation collapsed because one of them wanted to go on vacation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThe Re-Re-Evaluation of Pacquiao is a disappointing one The man ruined one of the most anticipated fights ever in Boxing with his refusal to test.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
That's cuz it is a fact. It's simple common sense. What do you guys have against thinking? I don't doubt you ain't the brightest around. But you can't be this stupid. Think. That's all I ask of you. Just think. The man doesn't take the fight cuz he dislikes big gauge needles in his arm (so he says). Dislike is so much he leaves 40 million on the table. But 8 months later all of a sudden he's ok with it. No problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
This is ridiculous. You make it sound like you saw him stick a needle labled steroids in his arm. You dont live with Pacquiao, train with him, eat with him ect... Your painting a label over him as fact and you know nothing more than anyone else about his personal life. The fact that Manny doesnt want to take random blood testing prooves nothing. Who likes getting a big gauge needle stuck in their arm when they dont have to anyways? Before you paint Manny Pacquiao as a PED using cheater you need to get some proof because your instincts are useless as wet toilet paper.:rolleyes:
1998
19 Yr old Pacquiao viciously kayoed lineal champion Chatchai Sasakul.
* Massive accomplishment specially with just the left hand. NO suspicion of PEDS
2001
Totally destroyed Ledwabba on a one sided beating
*Another Great accomplishment with just 2 weeks notice and Ledwabba regarded as the best of the division. NO suspicion of PEDS
2003
Pac annihilated Former champion Jorge Julio in 2 rounds and undefeated Lucero in 3. Barrera didnt mind this en route to absorbing a beating. Superb feat. NO suspicion of PEDS
2006
TKO'd Erik Morales twice. Morales
Good accomplishment as of now. but it was HUGE during that time. NO suspicion of PEDS
2008
SD'd Marquez and shut down Diaz. Very good accomplishment considering jmm is a nightmare stylistically plus DLH should have killed Pacquiao in a Circus. Good accomplisment now BUT he should have not came out alive againts DLH. NO suspicion of PEDS
* Some hints from Sr. though but not directly
2009
Brutally kayoed Hatton in 2. Great accomplishment since Hatton had 0 loss at 140. Hatton's Trainer Floyd Sr. would start the allegation after this
TKO'd Miguel Cotto in 11. Big accomplishment.
Paulie Malinaggi who was TKO's by Hatton and Cotto. supported Floyd Sr's claim that Pac's feat is impossible without cheating.
*His prediction was Cotto before the fight and Pacquiao should be the greatest fighter of all time if he beats Cotto.
-- Pacquiao has 2 KO losses and UD loss to Morales to sum his careera at this point.
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Sorry if these bored you but. Pac didnt have problems securing a fight before Floyd.
PED's use came out nowhere or i mean Sr and Paulie's mouth, Both have conflicting interest.
Freakin Floyd sr man. Envy is a sad sad thing aint it? Tsk! tsk!Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
Btw. I'm a massive JMM fan. But I never suspected him as a piss-o-holic until I saw this...
http://i28.tinypic.com/16m57jn.gif
;D
...kiddin'.
Geez, this issue's still not yet resolved. It's been couple years already, right. I come here once in a long while and everytime I do, the issues still been argued, it must be some sort of a record. The issue is so easy to resolve. Packy ducked drugged test, and Little Floyd ducked Pac, simple as that...
Just passing by, babes...;)