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So Violent Demise, after the collapse of the last Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation, what is your "Revaluation of Manny Pacquiao"?
The Re-Re-Evaluation of Pacquiao is a disappointing one The man ruined one of the most anticipated fights ever in Boxing with his refusal to test.
Did I miss something here? I thought the second Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiation collapsed because one of them wanted to go on vacation.
Keyword there is second. There would never of been a second anything if Pac would of took the offer when it was originally proposed. But he didn't. He decided to hold out for.........nothing. The fucking idiot excepted the same original offer. So really what was the point of those 8 months in between? It wasn't for more money. Or some other perk. It was for one reason. And one reason only. To clean the illegal, cheating drugs out of his system.

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I always been a massive Pacquiao fan. So it causes me great pain to see him pretty much expose himself as a fraud. Facts don't lie. And facts are he is refusing to take random tests. And he refusing to take them he's hiding something. He's hiding the fact that he's been taking performance enhancing drugs. Another fact. With that said, I can not in good conscious continue to rank Pacdruggie in my personal p4p ranking. I have to much respect for the sport of Boxing to do that. I've revised my rankings to the following

1.Floyd Mayweather
2.Manny Pacquiao
3.Bernard Hopkins
4.Rafael Marquez
5.Shane Mosley
6.Juan Manuel Marquez
7.Hozumi Hasegawa
8.Israel Vazquez
9.Paul Williams
10.Celestino Caballero
11. Miguel Cotto

I had removed Cotto from my list originally. But since it's become pretty obvious he was beaten by a fighter taking illegal substances I decided to bring him back.

This is ridiculous. You make it sound like you saw him stick a needle labled steroids in his arm. You dont live with Pacquiao, train with him, eat with him ect... Your painting a label over him as fact and you know nothing more than anyone else about his personal life. The fact that Manny doesnt want to take random blood testing prooves nothing. Who likes getting a big gauge needle stuck in their arm when they dont have to anyways? Before you paint Manny Pacquiao as a PED using cheater you need to get some proof because your instincts are useless as wet toilet paper.
That's cuz it is a fact. It's simple common sense. What do you guys have against thinking? I don't doubt you ain't the brightest around. But you can't be this stupid. Think. That's all I ask of you. Just think. The man doesn't take the fight cuz he dislikes big gauge needles in his arm (so he says). Dislike is so much he leaves 40 million on the table. But 8 months later all of a sudden he's ok with it. No problem at all.