Reality Hit Home Regarding the GREAT MIKE TYSON Story

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice

#1 If title defenses mean anything (and obviously they do) then JOE LOUIS is KING! And because of that I have Joe Louis as my #1 All-Time Greatest Heavyweight with Marciano and Ali following respectively.

#2 Marciano = UNDEFEATED.....FACT

#3 Marciano wasn't far from being a light heavyweight himself, the most he ever weighed for a fight was 192 vs Keene Simmons in 1951 but he mainly stayed at or around 186-188....FACT

#4 It wouldn't matter if Tyson had a fucking time machine he would NEVER have beaten Lennox Lewis ditto re: Evander Holyfield

#5 So Mike Tyson wanted to fight Ray Mercer in 2002....Wlad fought Ray in 2002, demolished him and he gets no credit for it so why would Tyson have gotten credit for it? I'm talking Mercer in the mid-late 1990's specifically right around when he beat Morrison and when he barely lost to Lewis.

#6...so you're a rabid Tyson fan, I have nothing against the guy I just like to reasonably and rationally look at the guy's career that's the difference between us

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Right on the money, no one disputes that Tyson was an exciting and gifted fighter, that is true. But those who would put him into to some "untouchable class" aren't being realistic. Styles make fights and his handlers knew who to feed him to make him look that much better. I always believed that a mid 90's version of Mercer or Foreman would have given Mike HUGE problems. Also one other thing I'd like to point out; Mike was not a multidimensional fighter, if "plan A" wasn't working he never had a "plan B", and this became evident as he became older and his "plan A" skills were not as dominant...[/QUOTE]

Ha ha, Louis! The term "bum of the monthwas invented for him!!

When Mike was with Rooney, he would never have got put on his ass by Tony Glento and neither would he have got knocked the fuuck out by Schmeling;D

Marcianos heavy weight defenced were against light heavyweights:rolleyes:

If Mike fought Mercer in 02 he would have been facing someone his own age and stage of career and certainly wouldnt have had a size advantage and largely Wlad will never get any credit because he gets knocked out by Sanders everyday of the week and needs steroids same as Evan Fields;D

Lewis took 4 million to run away from Mike rather than force him to fight and earn over 20;D

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Originally Posted by koppas

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

What's funny is that Tyson is a notorious bully in the ring then when he "gets" it back everyone screams foul..I've seen him unprovoked try to break guys arms in the ring. All of his trainers each have said that he's a bully that when someone stands up to him he backs down and the way evander kept shoving him around the ring and outboxing him caused his flip outs not the "Evander headbutts"

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To be fair, that only happened once.

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True that!

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by koppas

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

What's funny is that Tyson is a notorious bully in the ring then when he "gets" it back everyone screams foul..I've seen him unprovoked try to break guys arms in the ring. All of his trainers each have said that he's a bully that when someone stands up to him he backs down and the way evander kept shoving him around the ring and outboxing him caused his flip outs not the "Evander headbutts"

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To be fair, that only happened once.

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True that!

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Actually, I stand corrected, it was twice.

He tried breaking Botha's arms and Kevin McBride's.

I don't think there is a rule in boxing which says: "you can not break someone's arm" so he done nothing wrong imo.






















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Originally Posted by koppas

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

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Originally Posted by koppas

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

What's funny is that Tyson is a notorious bully in the ring then when he "gets" it back everyone screams foul..I've seen him unprovoked try to break guys arms in the ring. All of his trainers each have said that he's a bully that when someone stands up to him he backs down and the way evander kept shoving him around the ring and outboxing him caused his flip outs not the "Evander headbutts"

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To be fair, that only happened once.

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True that!

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Actually, I stand corrected, it was twice.

He tried breaking Botha's arms and Kevin McBride's.

I don't think there is a rule in boxing which says: "you can not break someone's arm" so he done nothing wrong imo.






















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then it was three because he tried that in the second holyfield fight...

So Tyson fouled a little. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

then it was three because he tried that in the second holyfield fight...

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I didn't see that tbh. I think you're making it up. ;)

Of course opponents got scared of Tyson, he was a master at Shirts off Showdowns. Fuck whatever happened in the ring, that is largely unimportant, what happens out of the ring is where the action is, no pun intended.

In a lot of ways, Mike Tyson and a real man, such as myself, have a lot in common. We are both just under 6 foot (Mike registered at 5 11 and a half, and me at 5 foot 4) and bother have similiar sized guns (Mikes are 17 inches and mine are 11.4 inches when pumped) and both never made it to the olympics.

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Originally Posted by Fantana

Of course opponents got scared of Tyson, he was a master at Shirts off Showdowns. Fuck whatever happened in the ring, that is largely unimportant, what happens out of the ring is where the action is, no pun intended.

In a lot of ways, Mike Tyson and a real man, such as myself, have a lot in common. We are both just under 6 foot (Mike registered at 5 11 and a half, and me at 5 foot 4) and bother have similiar sized guns (Mikes are 17 inches and mine are 11.4 inches when pumped) and both never made it to the olympics.

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In Mikes last police photo, they had him at 5,9";)

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by Fantana

Of course opponents got scared of Tyson, he was a master at Shirts off Showdowns. Fuck whatever happened in the ring, that is largely unimportant, what happens out of the ring is where the action is, no pun intended.

In a lot of ways, Mike Tyson and a real man, such as myself, have a lot in common. We are both just under 6 foot (Mike registered at 5 11 and a half, and me at 5 foot 4) and bother have similiar sized guns (Mikes are 17 inches and mine are 11.4 inches when pumped) and both never made it to the olympics.

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In Mikes last police photo, they had him at 5,9";)

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Someone who actually met him said he was 5ft 6.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by Fantana

Of course opponents got scared of Tyson, he was a master at Shirts off Showdowns. Fuck whatever happened in the ring, that is largely unimportant, what happens out of the ring is where the action is, no pun intended.

In a lot of ways, Mike Tyson and a real man, such as myself, have a lot in common. We are both just under 6 foot (Mike registered at 5 11 and a half, and me at 5 foot 4) and bother have similiar sized guns (Mikes are 17 inches and mine are 11.4 inches when pumped) and both never made it to the olympics.

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In Mikes last police photo, they had him at 5,9";)

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Someone who actually met him said he was 5ft 6.

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Yeah but was he working on a carnival stall at the time?


Edit: That'll probably fly over most peoples head

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Originally Posted by Fantana

Of course opponents got scared of Tyson, he was a master at Shirts off Showdowns. Fuck whatever happened in the ring, that is largely unimportant, what happens out of the ring is where the action is, no pun intended.

In a lot of ways, Mike Tyson and a real man, such as myself, have a lot in common. We are both just under 6 foot (Mike registered at 5 11 and a half, and me at 5 foot 4) and bother have similiar sized guns (Mikes are 17 inches and mine are 11.4 inches when pumped) and both never made it to the olympics.

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Congrats, you officially qualify for napoleons complex...;D

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by Fantana

Of course opponents got scared of Tyson, he was a master at Shirts off Showdowns. Fuck whatever happened in the ring, that is largely unimportant, what happens out of the ring is where the action is, no pun intended.

In a lot of ways, Mike Tyson and a real man, such as myself, have a lot in common. We are both just under 6 foot (Mike registered at 5 11 and a half, and me at 5 foot 4) and bother have similiar sized guns (Mikes are 17 inches and mine are 11.4 inches when pumped) and both never made it to the olympics.

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In Mikes last police photo, they had him at 5,9";)

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Which one is Tyson??? The guy on the left is obv spidey from corrie also.

http://www.topnews.in/light/files/th...e-rockband.jpg

Why did you need to bring his height in and reduce it a couple of inches? Do you think I added a few inches to my official height, cos that is a bullshit rumour Mark TKO made up.

Maybe Tyson lied, I don't know, maybe this is why Teddy Atlas jumped on the ropes and shouted "DONT U FUCKING DO IT" cos Tyson was about to take his shoes off and not quit.