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Haha pacfan voted for JMM by k.o. what a traitor!:kick::LOLATYOU:
Pac 129 JMM 130 both first attempts.
PacMan as he has become a more all round fighter since there last fight and less reliant on the power. Roach has developed a great fighter.
Marquez has been planting his feet more lately but doesn't generate much power and I think he will revert to the style he had in the 1st fight - more counterpunching. But Pacmans speed and overall arsenal of different shots should see him win this time, as Marquez is not as good as he was last time where as PacMan has improved.
Fascinating match-up and one for us all to enjoy.
WoW! I just turned on my PC and that's difinitely a good news. First attemps from both. That's a great news man. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Pacquiao vs. Marquez Weigh-in - ESPN VideoQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Hurry up Pac! Eat a lot of adobo, bulalo, balut, and tinola.;D
I bet for a JMM decision, although expecting a very close and exciting fight, I can hardly wait. This time I believe that Pac will not be able to surprise JMM as he did in the first round. It was amazing how after that beat up in the first round JMM could recover as he did and dominated several rounds in a display of his boxing skills.
If JMM doesn't engage, he might win. I don't think he can survive a man to man non stop slug fest.
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"I think Marquez will engage Manny in the first few rounds to test if he can take his punches," said Mondejar who flew in from Manila last Thursday night. "Once, Manny starts hurting him, expect Marquez to run like (Marco Antonio) Barrera did. If Marquez stays away, it’ll go 12 rounds with Manny winning the decision. If Marquez stands his ground, Manny will knock him out for sure."
Mondejar was in Pacquiao’s corner in the first meeting against Marquez four years ago.
"Marquez couldn’t walk straight after the fight and couldn’t even move his head because it was so swollen," recalled Mondejar. "He knows what it’s like to get hit by Manny. He’ll keep that in mind in the rematch.
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All right folks, if there's any other guyz who wants to bash pac-fans here, you are welcome to do so and I will just bear 'em with a smile. I've been actually bothered by the thought that there are more guys who don't like pac than the ones who do. So if I could in any way ease your burdens, I'll be glad to oblige. So here, bash your hearts out, don't hold 'em back, let 'em all out, and if I feel that I have eased the burden of fellow saddonians, I'll be mighty glad, and I mean it without any sarcasm here no matter how might feel about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I've been here for couple of years trying to help establish some goodwill among all boxing fans especially the ones who don't like pac, trying to 'break the ice' so to speak, with jokes when discussions became too intense and heated, usually turning really ugly. I must admit I have failed miserably, and there is no one to blame except myself. Like many guyz here, I'm starting to feel a little frustration and exasperation, or simply stated - tired. So here, I'm admitting my failure to establish goodwill among fans of various colors (not of course the skin), and maybe it's my time to move on... So if any folks here feel any anger or whatever toward us, just let 'em out and I will take it with humility and graciously.
They're all pretty cool here bro,... except for ATB and VD ofcourse. I know that you are "stablishing some goodwill" and I appreciate that. I look at you as "kuya", coz you sees things in very mature way. :) They're just hackin' on you. Don't take it seriously brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanAll right folks, if there's any other guyz who wants to bash pac-fans here, you are welcome to do so and I will just bear 'em with a smile. I've been actually bothered by the thought that there are more guys who don't like pac than the ones who do. So if I could in any way ease your burdens, I'll be glad to oblige. So here, bash your hearts out, don't hold 'em back, let 'em all out, and if I feel that I have eased the burden of fellow saddonians, I'll be mighty glad, and I mean it without any sarcasm here no matter how might feel about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I've been here for couple of years trying to help establish some goodwill among all boxing fans especially the ones who don't like pac, trying to 'break the ice' so to speak, with jokes when discussions became too intense and heated, usually turning really ugly. I must admit I have failed miserably, and there is no one to blame except myself. Like many guyz here, I'm starting to feel a little frustration and exasperation, or simply stated - tired. So here, I'm admitting my failure to establish goodwill among fans of various colors (not of course the skin), and maybe it's my time to move on... So if any folks here feel any anger or whatever toward us, just let 'em out and I will take it with humility and graciously.
Honestly, I was actually bothered when you voted for Marquez to win but knowing that you are a responsible poster, I somewhat knew you had a reason for voting Marquez to win this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThey're all pretty cool here bro,... except for ATB and VD ofcourse. I know that you are "stablishing some goodwill" and I appreciate that. I look at you as "kuya", coz you sees things in very mature way. :) They're just hackin' on you. Don't take it seriously brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanAll right folks, if there's any other guyz who wants to bash pac-fans here, you are welcome to do so and I will just bear 'em with a smile. I've been actually bothered by the thought that there are more guys who don't like pac than the ones who do. So if I could in any way ease your burdens, I'll be glad to oblige. So here, bash your hearts out, don't hold 'em back, let 'em all out, and if I feel that I have eased the burden of fellow saddonians, I'll be mighty glad, and I mean it without any sarcasm here no matter how might feel about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I've been here for couple of years trying to help establish some goodwill among all boxing fans especially the ones who don't like pac, trying to 'break the ice' so to speak, with jokes when discussions became too intense and heated, usually turning really ugly. I must admit I have failed miserably, and there is no one to blame except myself. Like many guyz here, I'm starting to feel a little frustration and exasperation, or simply stated - tired. So here, I'm admitting my failure to establish goodwill among fans of various colors (not of course the skin), and maybe it's my time to move on... So if any folks here feel any anger or whatever toward us, just let 'em out and I will take it with humility and graciously.
I myself is not discounting the fact that Marquez could win this fight. I'm also a Marquez fan. So when people starts to say that Marquez is surely gonna lose this fight, I know that they are just being biased for Pacquaio.
It's very understandable when a fan becomes biased to a specific boxer. That is how it is to be a fan.
Am actually having a hard time deciding whom to cheer in this fight. All I know is I love to watch boxing.... and boxers who fight with all their heart.
I just hope that Pacquaio and Marquez will fight like true warriors. This is the reason why I felt frustrated with Barrera when he contented himself running to survive his last fight with Pacquaio.:cool:
Reps for exposing yourself as true fight fan Bruce.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeHonestly, I was actually bothered when you voted for Marquez to win but knowing that you are a responsible poster, I somewhat knew you had a reason for voting Marquez to win this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThey're all pretty cool here bro,... except for ATB and VD ofcourse. I know that you are "stablishing some goodwill" and I appreciate that. I look at you as "kuya", coz you sees things in very mature way. :) They're just hackin' on you. Don't take it seriously brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
I myself is not discounting the fact that Marquez could win this fight. I'm also a Marquez fan. So when people starts to say that Marquez is surely gonna lose this fight, I know that they are just being biased for Pacquaio.
It's very understandable when a fan becomes biased to a specific boxer. That is how it is to be a fan.
Am actually having a hard time deciding whom to cheer in this fight. All I know is I love to watch boxing.... and boxers who fight with all their heart.
I just hope that Pacquaio and Marquez will fight like true warriors. This is the reason why I felt frustrated with Barrera when he contented himself running to survive his last fight with Pacquaio.:cool:
Go for the underdog!
Heart Marquez sd.
Mind says PAc by tko. though :eek:
Ahh fuk it, put me down for the heart.
The poll is fairly even, right down the wire.
No way this can be a let down!! ;D
i hope not.. who you voting for, miles?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Why can't i Vote?
Sheesh, Pacstraighleft! I didn't know that a 'joke vote' would cause such a misunderstanding here. Apparently, most folks here don't read all the posts. Mick was right, it'll come back to my azz! All right folks, read my post on page 6 about the joke vote - that was my b-day gift for my good friend Violent D. I've learned my lesson. I won't pull off that kind of stunt again.
As I've said, my real vote is 'pac T/KO win on the 4th or...' If you want to continue with my assessment of the fight, just read my posts on this thread.
Pareng Bruce, that was just a 'joke vote.' Read my post on page 6 and you'll know what it's all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeHonestly, I was actually bothered when you voted for Marquez to win but knowing that you are a responsible poster, I somewhat knew you had a reason for voting Marquez to win this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThey're all pretty cool here bro,... except for ATB and VD ofcourse. I know that you are "stablishing some goodwill" and I appreciate that. I look at you as "kuya", coz you sees things in very mature way. :) They're just hackin' on you. Don't take it seriously brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
I myself is not discounting the fact that Marquez could win this fight. I'm also a Marquez fan. So when people starts to say that Marquez is surely gonna lose this fight, I know that they are just being biased for Pacquaio.
It's very understandable when a fan becomes biased to a specific boxer. That is how it is to be a fan.
Am actually having a hard time deciding whom to cheer in this fight. All I know is I love to watch boxing.... and boxers who fight with all their heart.
I just hope that Pacquaio and Marquez will fight like true warriors. This is the reason why I felt frustrated with Barrera when he contented himself running to survive his last fight with Pacquaio.:cool:
Actually I've got no problem with Violent D, we've been exchanging jokes ever since we came here, sometimes harsh and stinging jokes, but we understand each other's jokes so he's ok. Who's ATB? Oh, yea, I got it. No sweat to me as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThey're all pretty cool here bro,... except for ATB and VD ofcourse. I know that you are "stablishing some goodwill" and I appreciate that. I look at you as "kuya", coz you sees things in very mature way. :) They're just hackin' on you. Don't take it seriously brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanAll right folks, if there's any other guyz who wants to bash pac-fans here, you are welcome to do so and I will just bear 'em with a smile. I've been actually bothered by the thought that there are more guys who don't like pac than the ones who do. So if I could in any way ease your burdens, I'll be glad to oblige. So here, bash your hearts out, don't hold 'em back, let 'em all out, and if I feel that I have eased the burden of fellow saddonians, I'll be mighty glad, and I mean it without any sarcasm here no matter how might feel about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I've been here for couple of years trying to help establish some goodwill among all boxing fans especially the ones who don't like pac, trying to 'break the ice' so to speak, with jokes when discussions became too intense and heated, usually turning really ugly. I must admit I have failed miserably, and there is no one to blame except myself. Like many guyz here, I'm starting to feel a little frustration and exasperation, or simply stated - tired. So here, I'm admitting my failure to establish goodwill among fans of various colors (not of course the skin), and maybe it's my time to move on... So if any folks here feel any anger or whatever toward us, just let 'em out and I will take it with humility and graciously.
I honestly do not know who will this fight. JMM won the first fight but Pac has improved considerably. I predict Pac to win by decision but I will be neutral for the first time and hope the best man and the right decision this time happens.
Is anyone gonna rewatch their first fight today to get some clues on the styles clash ?
I usually do that with rematches . Last time was Pav vs Taylor and on the day i predicted Pav by k.o .
'Stronger' Marquez eager to make up for lost time
By Steve D'Amato, Las Vegas Review Journal, Sat, 15 Mar 2008
Four years can be a long time to wait. But Juan Manuel Marquez is a patient man. That's how long it has taken Marquez to get another crack at Manny Pacquiao. Tonight at Mandalay Bay Events Center, the two boxers are expected to pick up where they left off on May 8, 2004, when their first fight ReviewJournal.com - Sports - 'Stronger' Marquez eager to make up for lost time
- $3 million for Pac and $1 million for JMM.
- Arum calling Beristain an idot.:-\
- If Marquez wins, there could be a trilogy on June 28 of this year.
I hope not . Win or lose I hope Pac fights someone else . Preferably in their 20's . Hes gotta stop rematching these old fighters and start building a legacy against young guns .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
That idea came from Arum's demonic mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEI hope not . Win or lose I hope Pac fights someone else . Preferably in their 20's . Hes gotta stop rematching these old fighters and start building a legacy against young guns .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
But I agree with ya. I think Pac should fight the younger David Diaz next. I want Pac to start capturing some belts dman it! "build legacy" :)
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Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThat idea came from Arum's demonic mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEI hope not . Win or lose I hope Pac fights someone else . Preferably in their 20's . Hes gotta stop rematching these old fighters and start building a legacy against young guns .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
But I agree with ya. I think Pac should fight the younger David Diaz next. I want Pac to start capturing some belts dman it! "build legacy" :)
David Diaz is old aswel . Hes 30 something . I wouldnt mind if Pac fought the Diaz that was just beaten by Nate Cambell . That would make for a decent fight . Maybe Guzman cuz he doesnt look on the way down . This fight tonight will put finality on the trilogy of Mexicans . Even if Pac loses he should add other names to his record .
guzman is over thirty as well, plus jmm is still a lot better then he is. This is the correct match for pac. You can't really blame pac cause younger guys don't really want to step up to him. I give credit to solis, a young undefeated guy that actually fought him instead of just talking about it unlike valero. Juan diaz called him out but thats not really saying much cause juan is from the welterweights that went down to lightweight but challenges a featherweight (pacman).
Theres really no young guns to challenges him. Jaun has been expose, valero is still just all hype and....who else is there?
Hey, They're all freakin' old. lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by PacstraightleftThat idea came from Arum's demonic mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
But I agree with ya. I think Pac should fight the younger David Diaz next. I want Pac to start capturing some belts dman it! "build legacy" :)
David Diaz is old aswel . Hes 30 something . I wouldnt mind if Pac fought the Diaz that was just beaten by Nate Cambell . That would make for a decent fight . Maybe Guzman cuz he doesnt look on the way down . This fight tonight will put finality on the trilogy of Mexicans . Even if Pac loses he should add other names to his record .
I don't no bro. I just want Pac start collecting some belts before he retires. D.Diaz, Guzman, Valero, Campbell, maybe CJ if he's got the balls to follow Pac @ lightweight... They all have belts and they're all beatables by Pac. Screw the Hatton and Dela Hoya idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
pac doesn't like paying those currupt abc belts though, his not into all that fake bullshyt. He knows his the best and doesn't need a belt from them corrupt fee title whore organization.
Here's Pac just beheaded the young undefeated 5'10" Solis ;D...
http://www.newmexicoboxing.com/photo...-blaze0080.jpg
True. I just want all of his haters to STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
It depends on how much can Pac assert his will early on I guess, conventional wisdom say Pac but JMM is that good to me its still a pikem fight.
Good luck Pacstraightleft for your boy and please don't do a runner if he loses unlike some others. the worst thing ever is to leave for months on end when one of your favourite fighter loses. Take a lesson frome me and if VD says anything we can double team and laugh on his face when Michael Katsidis gives Joel Cassamayor a one-sided beating ;D
I don't know if you noticed this but, I was gone for about 4 months after Pac convincingly defeated Barrera. I had to take care of my aunt (my second mom) in the Philippines coz she lost her eyesight. She took care of me since birth, I owe her that much. But, hell yeah... I'll be here next sunday morning win or lose for Pac. Mark those words. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Don't count on it leftylee, Katsidis is a pretty one-dimensional fighter, and a slick fighter like Casamayor can embarass him. Better think of something else to keep Violent D 'happy'.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
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A saw a decent kid come over here and Batter a Brit for the WBO featherweight title . Steven Luevano was his name . He'd make for a good fight with Pac cuz he comes to win . Valero is improving . Arthur may have already peaked but atleast he is in his 20s . If Katsidis does well vs Casa then a match with Pac would be a natural given their styles . . Linares would be another if he wants to move up . There are good fights for Pac out there . Just got to be made .
So nobodys voted for a draw yet... :-X
Cant vote anymore the poll is closed;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Pacquiao by KO.