Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
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I think C.J.Rock's inside info is at least worth a read.
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ruthless rocco - so far this is your contribution to the thread.
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welcome back loser!
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HAHHAHahaHaHaHaHahaha!!!!!!!
"Boxing's Living Legend" (self proclaimed) Does it again!!!! Hahahhaha!
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You know him personally huh?
What's that saying? Birds of a feather..? Haha! Couple of losers.
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You're a used gauze pad.
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Hahaha! What a loser!
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"hand crème"
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Hahahaha! I thought I was the biggest idiot on the forum!
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Another CLASSIC!
Promise me you'll never change.
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Poor fucker doesn't even get it! Haha!!!!
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:appl:
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
You have offered nothing to the debate. All you've done is insult someone that offers an alternative opinion.
Gee, I'm speechless! I though most everyone had me on ignore.
Thanks for highlighting my posts from this thread so the ones that do have me on ignore get to read my greatest hits!!!
Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
If I deleted all your posts from the thread, along with some other posters, then it would look like a bunch of adults were having a discussion instead of a bunch of children. That's all.
Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
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If I deleted all your posts from the thread, along with some other posters, then it would look like a bunch of adults were having a discussion instead of a bunch of children. That's all.
...but where's the fun in that? (Aside from an "adult" authoritarian impulse to flex one's MOD-given muscle.)
Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
A person defending a fighter because they happen to be friends, and because..... (cough) "he's a nice guy"..... doesn't amount to diddly squat when it comes to proving that fighter's innocence or lack of guilt as it were. For this person to be crying foul, or conspiracy, or kangaroo court, whatever.... is both laughable and a travesty. Maybe if a convicted cheater was my personal friend and I knew both him and his wife... maybe I'd behave in the same transparent, biased, blind, totally subjective manner.
.... but I would hope not.
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@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?
These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.
I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.
To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol
Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case
Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them
Thanks mate.
I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim :). The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.
Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.
I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?
I watched the wrapping many times but never thought to pay that much attention Javier always had pads ready in his bag He said he accidently picked up a used one I have no reason to doubt that's what happened.
Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
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A person defending a fighter because they happen to be friends, and because..... (cough) "he's a nice guy"..... doesn't amount to diddly squat when it comes to proving that fighter's innocence or lack of guilt as it were. For this person to be crying foul, or conspiracy, or kangaroo court, whatever.... is both laughable and a travesty. Maybe if a convicted cheater was my personal friend and I knew both him and his wife... maybe I'd behave in the same transparent, biased, blind, totally subjective manner.
.... but I would hope not.
All I have ever said from day one is.......
Show me one iota of proof, not accusations but proof, that Tony Margarito EVER tried to load his gloves & I'd be all over him like a cheap suit calling for a permanent ban but no one has been able to do that.
As for it being a kangaroo court? It was a perfect example of one..
The CSAC banned Margarito on the word of Nazim Richardson. They accused Margarito of cheating making them the prosecution they had no proof of any cheating tho.
Margarito was banned for 2 years by the prosecuter not by any court. The CSAC had nothing to show any court but Margarito was STILL deemed guilty & had his reputation tarnished & his career railroaded.. Margarito never was given a chance to defend himself. the Csac just said " You look guilty so you must be guilty
That is a Kangaroo court
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Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
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C.J.Rock
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@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?
These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.
I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.
To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol
Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case
Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them
Thanks mate.
I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim :). The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.
Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.
I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?
I watched the wrapping many times but never thought to pay that much attention Javier always had pads ready in his bag He said he accidently picked up a used one I have no reason to doubt that's what happened.
Ok so........ Javier Capetillo, a veteran trainer with more years of experience than some of us have been alive..... (cough) "accidentally" mistakes a USED gauze pad for a new one. For a MAJOR, nationally televised fight (not that it should make any difference how big the fight is).
..... accidentally picked up a used one...... Let's just let that sink in for a minute.
And of course, you believe that crock....er.... B.S.... er...excuse.... er.... story.
I'm sorry. But you're a close personal friend of Margarito and his wife. What ELSE are you supposed to do except defend him to the death? It's become painfully aware to me, as with everyone else, that you cannot possibly have an objective view on this matter.... 'cause it's personal to you. All this B.S. about a conspiracy, kangaroo court, whatever the hell you choose to call it.... falls on deaf ears. The damage has been done.... the punishment has been meted out. Who knows how many other times Capetillo "accidentally" inserted a used gauze pad, while Margarito remained blissfully unaware of what was going on.
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Who knows how many other times Capetillo "accidentally" inserted a used gauze pad, while Margarito remained blissfully unaware of what was going on.
You finally accept that Margarito could have been unaware of the wraps like many of the worlds great trainers have asserted? Progress.
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Who knows how many other times Capetillo "accidentally" inserted a used gauze pad, while Margarito remained blissfully unaware of what was going on.
You finally accept that Margarito could have been unaware of the wraps like many of the worlds great trainers have asserted? Progress.
I thought the quote marks around the word "unaware" were unnecessary at this juncture, and that the sarcasm would be correctly interpreted, but alas....... I was wrong. Proceed to consider my use of the word "unaware" as sarcastic.
Thanks.
(I'll spell it all out carefully next time.)
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Oh right, you still know more than all the great trainers - like the late great Manny Steward and Freddie Roach - and people in boxing that question Margarito's "guilt." Okay.
At least you've stopped posting "Margacheato" - bit childish. :)
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Oh right, you still know more than all the great trainers - like the late great Manny Steward and Freddie Roach - and people in boxing that question Margarito's "guilt." Okay.
At least you've stopped posting "Margacheato" - bit childish. :)
Oh no... I still use MargaCheato..... but I use a capital "C" for effect. I'm so happy you've noticed.
And no... I don't know more than Steward or Roach. I just have this thing about veteran trainers "accidentally" mistaking a used gauze pad for a new one.
But don't be offended. There's at least 20 other people worldwide that believe the load of sh*t Cheato and his trainer are still peddling. So you and C.J. are not alone.
;)
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And no... I don't know more than Steward or Roach.
Well at least you admit that.
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And no... I don't know more than Steward or Roach.
Well at least you admit that.
See? I'm glad we agree on something..... even if Margarito..... cheato..... remains a convicted cheater and a stain on the sport of boxing.
:)
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And no... I don't know more than Steward or Roach.
Well at least you admit that.
See? I'm glad we agree on something..... even if Marga
rito..... cheato..... remains a convicted cheater and a stain on the sport of boxing.
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Err Once again I ask you the question TIT WHEN was Margarito ever convicted?? When was he ever formally charged?? He wasn't he was ACCUSED with no proof to substanciate therefore it was a kangaroo court End of Story
