Re: Ricky Hatton; Good Call.
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Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.
Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:
I really, really hope that doesn't happen :-\.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.
Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.
If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.
floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.
When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!
What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.
Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.
Re: Ricky Hatton; Good Call.
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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.
Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.
Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.
Will never happen in a million years!!
Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.
Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.
Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?
But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight... ;)
Khan has to worry about Lightweight division first, he is in a very strong division at the moment, and i can't see him beating most of the elite Lightweights.
Re: Ricky Hatton; Good Call.
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I really, really hope that doesn't happen :-\.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.
Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.
If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.
floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.
When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!
What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on
the inside.
Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.
urango got soundly beaten BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.
To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.
As for floyd being busier on the inside???
If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.
You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.
Re: Ricky Hatton; Good Call.
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hattonthehammer
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hattonthehammer
I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.
Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.
If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.
floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.
When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!
What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on
the inside.
Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.
urango got soundly beaten
BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.
To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.
As for floyd being busier on the inside???
If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.
You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.
And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.
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Bomp
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hattonthehammer
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Bomp
What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.
Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.
urango got soundly beaten
BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.
To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.
As for floyd being busier on the inside???
If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.
You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.
And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.
Whatever he did, it saw him win 11/12 rounds.
Re: Ricky Hatton; Good Call.
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Bomp
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hattonthehammer
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Bomp
What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.
Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.
urango got soundly beaten
BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.
To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.
As for floyd being busier on the inside???
If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.
You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.
And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.
It doesnt exactly work like that though does it.
Hattons style involves him bullying an opponent physically before unloading...usually with a barrage of body shots that wears his opponents down.
Every time he tried to come in he knew he couldnt attempt a lock up or to push floyd into a viable position where he could get his shots off and was forced to try and fight at arms length which inevitably led to floyd throwing back far more devestating shots.
ODLH was allowed to go toe to toe with mayweather and it was extremely effective up until about 7-8 when he puffed out of steam.
Hatton is a far better fighter (fighter not boxer, fighter) than de la hoya!!
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hattonthehammer
urango got soundly beaten BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.
To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.
As for floyd being busier on the inside???
If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.
You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.
And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.
Whatever he did, it saw him win 11/12 rounds.
I'm not disputing that Hatton is a very good inside fighter, I'm disputing the claim that he could best every fighter at 147 on the inside.
Hammer: I think we have different perspectives on good inside work, I'm talking about fighting within range in general (e.g.Frazier) than just the hook and hold style, by your reckoning Ruiz is the finest exponent of inside fighting in history.
I remember the old Hatton fights pre Tzyu where he used good footwork to get inside, unload his shots and get out safely, without excessive holding. I can understand the strategy for Tzyu to completely smother him since his most powerful punches were delivered from a distance, but he's stayed with pretty much the same strategy since, either through choice or he's let himself go so much betwwen fights he no longer has the legs in the later rounds.
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And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.
Whatever he did, it saw him win 11/12 rounds.
I'm not disputing that Hatton is a very good inside fighter, I'm disputing the claim that he could best every fighter at 147 on the inside.
Hammer: I think we have different perspectives on good inside work, I'm talking about fighting within range in general (e.g.Frazier) than just the hook and hold style, by your reckoning Ruiz is the finest exponent of inside fighting in history.
I remember the old Hatton fights pre Tzyu where he used good footwork to get inside, unload his shots and get out safely, without excessive holding. I can understand the strategy for Tzyu to completely smother him since his most powerful punches were delivered from a distance, but he's stayed with pretty much the same strategy since, either through choice or he's let himself go so much betwwen fights he no longer has the legs in the later rounds.
Hatton is not competitive at 147.
Huge Hatton fan but thats a fact.
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Whatever he did, it saw him win 11/12 rounds.
I'm not disputing that Hatton is a very good inside fighter, I'm disputing the claim that he could best every fighter at 147 on the inside.
Hammer: I think we have different perspectives on good inside work, I'm talking about fighting within range in general (e.g.Frazier) than just the hook and hold style, by your reckoning Ruiz is the finest exponent of inside fighting in history.
I remember the old Hatton fights pre Tzyu where he used good footwork to get inside, unload his shots and get out safely, without excessive holding. I can understand the strategy for Tzyu to completely smother him since his most powerful punches were delivered from a distance, but he's stayed with pretty much the same strategy since, either through choice or he's let himself go so much betwwen fights he no longer has the legs in the later rounds.
Hatton is not competitive at 147.
Huge Hatton fan but thats a fact.
I agree he has'nt got the strength at 147 to stay on the inside and bully his opponent.Also he isnt a ko artist at 140 he's only a solid puncher and when he is at 147 it has no affect on those guys.
Can you imagine Hatton going on the inside with Cotto i think there would only be 1 out come and it is'nt in Ricky favour.
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I'm not disputing that Hatton is a very good inside fighter, I'm disputing the claim that he could best every fighter at 147 on the inside.
Hammer: I think we have different perspectives on good inside work, I'm talking about fighting within range in general (e.g.Frazier) than just the hook and hold style, by your reckoning Ruiz is the finest exponent of inside fighting in history.
I remember the old Hatton fights pre Tzyu where he used good footwork to get inside, unload his shots and get out safely, without excessive holding. I can understand the strategy for Tzyu to completely smother him since his most powerful punches were delivered from a distance, but he's stayed with pretty much the same strategy since, either through choice or he's let himself go so much betwwen fights he no longer has the legs in the later rounds.
Hatton is not competitive at 147.
Huge Hatton fan but thats a fact.
I agree he has'nt got the strength at 147 to stay on the inside and bully his opponent.Also he isnt a ko artist at 140 he's only a solid puncher and when he is at 147 it has no affect on those guys.
Can you imagine Hatton going on the inside with Cotto i think there would only be 1 out come and it is'nt in Ricky favour.
Ricky could have handled Cotto at 140.
But at 147 Cotto is a different type of machine.
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hattonthehammer
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leftylee
Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.
Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:
I really, really hope that doesn't happen :-\.
I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.
Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.
If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.
floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.
When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!
Fouls aside, Floyd was out-fighting Hatton on the inside as well as the outside, and everywhere in between. Floyd just out-thought him completely. I don't think it matters who the ref is or where they fight, PBF would beat Hatton 9 times out of 10. Also, I'd like to have someone explain to me what exactly Hatton did, aside from lining Floyd's pockets, to earn a rematch. If Hatton deserves one then so does Judan, and Judah does not deserve a rematch with PBF.
For the record, I can think of several fighters at 147 who would absolutely maul Hatton on the inside. Margarito and Cotto would savage him, he's just too small.
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I think there still is a possibility of Hatton fighting Witter somewhere down the line. Surely once Witter recuperates he will want a rematch with Bradley and if he wins that then who knows. But I think Hatton needs to concentrate on Lazcano first and if he wins if he will be aiming for Paulie in the Garden which will draw more money than a Witter fight.
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I think there still is a possibility of Hatton fighting Witter somewhere down the line. Surely once Witter recuperates he will want a rematch with Bradley and if he wins that then who knows. But I think Hatton needs to concentrate on Lazcano first and if he wins if he will be aiming for Paulie in the Garden which will draw more money than a Witter fight.
I actually don't believe Witter can recuperate.
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I hope Hatton fights Mayweather again because I'd love to see him get knocked out again.
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I hope Hatton fights Mayweather again because I'd love to see him get knocked out again.
Thats a bit risky in a thread about Hatton, on a site with so many Hatton fans isn't it?
