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I thought you don't like watching the previews. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by RP33
yeah.. not sure why eggs would be there but maybe she used him to bait her out there or something and then possessed him and he forgot about it mostly..Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
did any of you guys see the previews right before entourage i think it was? it previewed the rest of the season and it looked amazing.
well you see, normally if i watch the show at my place i turn it off right after the credits roll, end of story. but the past two weeks i was at a friends and we watched hung and then entourage right after true blood and the preview i was speaking of aired some time between those shows.. so it caught me off guard..Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeI thought you don't like watching the previews. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by RP33yeah.. not sure why eggs would be there but maybe she used him to bait her out there or something and then possessed him and he forgot about it mostly..Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
did any of you guys see the previews right before entourage i think it was? it previewed the rest of the season and it looked amazing.
but yes, i hate them..
unless it's some sort of action movie which doesn't have much to do with a story line, i don't understand why so many damn trailers come out for some movies.. i used to work at blockbuster when i was 16-17 and we would have to have the trailer DVD on the in-store TV's all day and i really got to see how much the trailers show.. it's crazy.. why bother watching the movie if you have a trailer that shows all of the exciting parts without having to sit through the bullshit?
i digress, but, yeah, i stray from them. just like i don't like when people say "OMG YOU HAVE TO GO SEE THIS MOVIE IT WAS SO GOOD".. depending on the person at least. i will purposely go see a movie where someone has told me it was "incredible" just to tell them they have bad taste when it turns out awful.
when i look back at movies which i had NO idea what they were about, i almost always enjoy them much more.. movies of note: the illusionist and forgetting sarah marshall.. my gf at the time wanted to see them and i had no idea what they were about and i loved them both.. would it be the same if i saw trailers and had a preconceived idea as to what to expect? i'll never know, but i like being caught off guard.
I bet Miles does exactly the same. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33well you see, normally if i watch the show at my place i turn it off right after the credits roll, end of story. but the past two weeks i was at a friends and we watched hung and then entourage right after true blood and the preview i was speaking of aired some time between those shows.. so it caught me off guard..Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeI thought you don't like watching the previews. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by RP33
but yes, i hate them..
unless it's some sort of action movie which doesn't have much to do with a story line, i don't understand why so many damn trailers come out for some movies.. i used to work at blockbuster when i was 16-17 and we would have to have the trailer DVD on the in-store TV's all day and i really got to see how much the trailers show.. it's crazy.. why bother watching the movie if you have a trailer that shows all of the exciting parts without having to sit through the bullshit?
i digress, but, yeah, i stray from them. just like i don't like when people say "OMG YOU HAVE TO GO SEE THIS MOVIE IT WAS SO GOOD".. depending on the person at least. i will purposely go see a movie where someone has told me it was "incredible" just to tell them they have bad taste when it turns out awful.
when i look back at movies which i had NO idea what they were about, i almost always enjoy them much more.. movies of note: the illusionist and forgetting sarah marshall.. my gf at the time wanted to see them and i had no idea what they were about and i loved them both.. would it be the same if i saw trailers and had a preconceived idea as to what to expect? i'll never know, but i like being caught off guard.
AWESOME episode, this week..
Jessica and Hoyt are gonna do it.. didn't mind seeing her near naked..
I am seemingly right on the Eggs killing the lady in the woods for Maryann while he was possessed as he did the same to Daphne.. didn't mind seeing her near naked again.
I'm frustrated that Bill can't leave the damn hotel room, but I suppose that is the point and how it's supposed to make you feel.
Andy saw the orgy but no one believes him cause he's a drunk.. Which brings me to the whole, "what the hell is maryann's purpose".. she obviously has some sort of "job" for tara, considering Daphne had one, Eggs kills people for her and the servant guy is her servant.. but does she have anything to do with the church and godric? Eric keeps hinting that something more than human had to have captured him..
anyway, the end of the episode was the best. Godric is a beast and i can't wait to see more of him..
So did Eric just go to the church, set him free and then had Godric save sookie? Why would godric do that.. unless eric asked him to?
I assume Jason isn't dead, nor do i know why the girl would shoot him with whatever type of gun that was..
overall awesome episode and this season has totally turned it up a notch..
Yeah I think it was definitely the best episode so far. I'm guessing Sarah shot Jason because her husband told her he was a vampire sympathiser and had infiltrated their church so she felt betrayed.
They completely ruined her for me, a couple of episodes ago I thought she was the hottest girl on the show, then she turned into some kind of weirdo and put me right off her.
Brilliant episode though it felt like a big season finale.
Oooh, didn't realise we had a True Blood thread going on in here! I've yet to watch Sunday's episode so have skipped over all the recent posts. looking forward to watching it later!
It's probably already been mentioned on past threads but did anyone used to watch Home & Away? Well Jason is Vinny the life guard out of that!! ;D
So Bill Compton is played by an Englishman, Sookie played by a Kiwi and Jason played by an Aussie!! I'm no expert on the southern accent but theirs all seem pretty good to me.
On a side note, IMO the deep south accent is easily my favourite American accent! Love it, is that how they speak in New Orleans? If so I'm off to Mardi Gras next year to pull me some sexy Sookie lookalike!! :cool:
Well this weekend saw another great episode, thoroughly enjoyable but somewhat confusing. Many things were said and hinted that seemed confusing to me and I'd like to share my thoughts.
Firstly, Godric. A great new character I can see he's going to be awesome. We are similar in many ways actually. Both young looking, (although some might point out he is actually also 'good' looking) I don't have his physical skills and powers but just like him I am very pale, share an aversion to sunlight and sleep during the day so I can definitely say we have a sense of kindred spirit shared.
Anyway, he is a modern day vampire Messianic Christ like figure it seems, all forgiving, non violent seeking civilise the vampires so that them and humankind can peacefully coexist.
Bolloks! Sorry but I don't buy this for a second. Either he's been reprogrammed somehow by the Sun Fellowship or is anti vampire, or else this is part of some evil scheme and he will turn out to be very very bad indeed, I just don't buy the 'good guy' act at all.
Also if he's so peaceful and non violent, why did he snap the neck of the guy who tried to rape Sookie? He killed him, and it seemed to me he killed him for reasons other than him raping Sookie. There was something going on between those two and the rest of the Sun Fellowship we don't yet know I'm sure of it.
So Godric will turn out to be bad, very very bad indeed on the level of Maryanne in my opinion.
Talking of Maryanne she is going from strength to strength, I'm really please with the depths of evil the show are allowing her to descend.
I didn't think Tara and her bf would eat the human heart pie, I thought deceny on the part of American broadcasting standards would intervene and something would stop them from becoming cannibals.
So I was pleasantly suprised that the show's producers were willing to take the risk and have a major character break a major human taboo, a first for a televsion series I think, to have a heroine, good character be violated to such a degree. The domestic violence follow up was great too, this a show that isn't afraid to push the bounderies, much like Dexter, another classic show.
Back to Maryanne, I'd like to know just how much control she exercises over her brainwashed followers. Is she controlling everything they do directly, or does she just flood their emotions with feelings of sexual lust, rage, etc and then that person just goes out of control and acts entirely out of their most primal instincts and passions? I'm guessing a bit of both.
Now on to Jessica. she's proving to be one of the most interesting characters to me now, it's a great idea to have her dealing with both her sexual and adult awakening and also adapting to being a vampire at the same time. She's certainly the vampire with whom the viewer can feel the most compassion and empathy and I love that she wears her heart on her sleeve so much, and is refreshingly open. In many ways she the most transparent character, there are no secrets, hidden emotions, whereas every other character is a mystery to us even now, Jessica I think is the character most like the audience, trying to make sense of everything too and just coming to terms with everything that is going on.
I did find the regrowing hymen amusing and endearing. That would be a huge problem and embarrasment to any young girl, especially if you had to live with it for every sexual encounter.
There are plusses though. Firstly of course it's great news for Hoyt. It means if she wants to avoid bloodshed every time they go at it she will have to start letting him fuck her in the ass so win win for him.
Secondly as if a hot teen vampire wouldn't be golddust enough in the porn industry already, having an eternal hymen tearing, virgin vamp girl would surely be a pedo's dream and she could go on to have a great career.
Sticking with Jessica, one thing that puzzles me is that she seems to have little if no emotional attachment to Bill, her maker. Seeing the hold a maker can have over their 'child' surely she would be infatuated with Bill, wanting him sexually and insanely jealous of Sookie?
If an adult God fearing man of exceptional high moral values such as Bill Compton could be so seduced by the power of his maker that he would happily engage in killing and torturing humans with her surely Jessica throwing herself at Bill at all time, frigging herself in front of him every time he walked into her room and trying to blow him every chance she got.....or maybe that's just how I'd envision I'd like it to be? :confused:
But still, I definitely think she would be insanely jealous of Sookie and would deeply desire Bill, instead of being totally disinterested as she appears.
Finally one thing puzzled about the end of the episode. That drunken guy under the influence of Maryanne had apparently commited sodomy with a pineapple tree. I though sodomy related to homosexual sex and I'm a bit miffed as to how you can bugger a pineapple tree, something which doesn't even have an anus? :confused:
Anyway I'll continue to think on that, at least when I'm not thinking about Bill tearing open young Jessica's hymen and forcing Sookie to drink the sanguine flow from the young teen girl's 'well of desire'... :thinking2::spunk:
i can't read all of that, but i did read the part about jessica should be somewhat attached to bill, and i'd like to use the example of bill and his maker.. he was never in love with her (as he said) and now hates her for the stuff she made him do. I assume it would depend on the situation. Bill turned Jessica into a vampire because of a punishment, she didn't want it, and Bill was turned into a vampire because lorena attacked him and took him from his family which he was sad about.. even though he went on those killing sprees he said in later episodes that he "tried" but wasn't in love with her.. but Eric on the other hand, was given "eternal life" from Godric, and as he was probably going to die, he was grateful for what Godric did for him. So, i assume that it has to do with the circumstances in order for how strong the bond could become.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Godric is the best character, next to Eric.. "i am older than your Jesus, I wish we could've met, but i missed him." was the best line.. and when he said he could snap lorena into a twig anddd when he told eric he could've killed the entire Fellowship wtihin minutes.. the guy is the man..
i wouldn't really say he's some sort of Jesus, though.. I mean, the guy was obviously killing humans most of his life, but as he has aged he has seen a lot, and now he has the power to try to make vampires lives better. Obviously when he snapped the rapist's neck he will kill if someone does something wrong, but it seems as though he wants to prevent violence as much as possible.. can't wait for next weeks episode.
But I would strongly disagree here. Clearly at some point he DID love her, or at least feel an overwhelming urge and desire to please her.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33i can't read all of that, but i did read the part about jessica should be somewhat attached to bill, and i'd like to use the example of bill and his maker.. he was never in love with her (as he said) and now hates her for the stuff she made him do. I assume it would depend on the situation. Bill turned Jessica into a vampire because of a punishment, she didn't want it, and Bill was turned into a vampire because lorena attacked him and took him from his family which he was sad about.. even though he went on those killing sprees he said in later episodes that he "tried" but wasn't in love with her.. but Eric on the other hand, was given "eternal life" from Godric, and as he was probably going to die, he was grateful for what Godric did for him. So, i assume that it has to do with the circumstances in order for how strong the bond could become.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Godric is the best character, next to Eric.. "i am older than your Jesus, I wish we could've met, but i missed him." was the best line.. and when he said he could snap lorena into a twig anddd when he told eric he could've killed the entire Fellowship wtihin minutes.. the guy is the man..
i wouldn't really say he's some sort of Jesus, though.. I mean, the guy was obviously killing humans most of his life, but as he has aged he has seen a lot, and now he has the power to try to make vampires lives better. Obviously when he snapped the rapist's neck he will kill if someone does something wrong, but it seems as though he wants to prevent violence as much as possible.. can't wait for next weeks episode.
Remember he was turned during the American Civil War which means the mid 1860's.
The flashback of him killing and eating humans with her and living a life of bloodthirsty depravity was in the 1930's in other words he lived her lifestyle for over 70 years!
Now also let's remember that Bill, prior to being turned was an adult, and a deeply moral and principled man, refusing her offer of sex out of loyalty to his wife etc.
I think its fair to say he's far more principled and moral than most of us, and yet even he was seduced by his maker for 70 years, until he finally begged her to release him.
Jessica meanwhile is a young teen grown up in a frigid fundamentalist home that she despised. She's now at her most curious sexually, has all kinds of desires in her and yet bizarrely in my view has no attachment or interest to Bill at all. Contrast that with the loyalty and feeling of subservience Eric has to Godric, even though Godric is essentially little older than a teenager (this to counter the idea that Jessica wouldn't be attracted to Bill because he's older).
I just think she would hold him in far higher esteem and be insanely jealous of his relationship woth Sookie.
Back to Godric, we disagree here. I don't see him as good, I think as the show goes on he's going to be quite quite evil indeed.........
We still know nothing of how he came to be with Fellowship of the Sun, where he sprung from to save Sookie etc. There's clearly more going on here than meets the eye, maybe things that we won't find out until well into the third season.
I think it's pretty black and white as far as maker/makee goes.. Bill's maker OBVIOUSLY wanted him sexually. She turned him, and then was, as far as vampires go, in control of him. So she probably showed him how he should be acting as she was responsible for him. If you remember when they were fighting, bill said that she made him kill so many people because he felt he should be doing it for her, but that he tried and tried but couldn't love her. So, yes, a need to feel he had to please her, because he is more or less her apprentice, for lack of a better term, but not necessarily a need to love her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Same with Jessica, where she was turned forcefully and really hated what she became after she was turned and hated bill for it.
If you remember this past episode when Bill came in the room when jessica and hoyt were going at it, hoyt said "those were screams of pleasure", meaning he thought bill came in to protect her.. and THAT is the bond between the maker and the new vamp.. it's obviously up to them to protect the newly turned and they are responsible for the actions. The bond doesn't necessarily have to be a physical attraction, especially if they newly turned vampire was turned without wanting to be one.
as i said, eric on the other hand, felt he was given a gift by Godric, as he basically saved his life and was grateful for it.
i think it's pretty black and white, but that's just me.
i do like your theory about godric and that would be interesting if he actually was bad, but i just caught the first half of the episode on HBO again and i didn't get that underlying evil feeling, but we shall see.
Remember that Bill's begging to be released and his telling his maker he didn't love her came 70 YEARS after she turned him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33I think it's pretty black and white as far as maker/makee goes.. Bill's maker OBVIOUSLY wanted him sexually. She turned him, and then was, as far as vampires go, in control of him. So she probably showed him how he should be acting as she was responsible for him. If you remember when they were fighting, bill said that she made him kill so many people because he felt he should be doing it for her, but that he tried and tried but couldn't love her. So, yes, a need to feel he had to please her, because he is more or less her apprentice, for lack of a better term, but not necessarily a need to love her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Same with Jessica, where she was turned forcefully and really hated what she became after she was turned and hated bill for it.
If you remember this past episode when Bill came in the room when jessica and hoyt were going at it, hoyt said "those were screams of pleasure", meaning he thought bill came in to protect her.. and THAT is the bond between the maker and the new vamp.. it's obviously up to them to protect the newly turned and they are responsible for the actions. The bond doesn't necessarily have to be a physical attraction, especially if they newly turned vampire was turned without wanting to be one.
as i said, eric on the other hand, felt he was given a gift by Godric, as he basically saved his life and was grateful for it.
i think it's pretty black and white, but that's just me.
i do like your theory about godric and that would be interesting if he actually was bad, but i just caught the first half of the episode on HBO again and i didn't get that underlying evil feeling, but we shall see.
The fact he stayed with her all that time and didn't just leave her on day one shows a fixed, inevitable bond between them.
And personally Eric seems VERY interested in Godric to me. They've been together over 1000 years, they routinely kill people for sport and indulge all their lusts, you can't tell me that Godric didn't pound the shit out of Eric at one point, especially as Godric is over 2000 years old and grew up in an era where buggering your enemy was a universally practiced show of dominance.
It may suprise you but until the coming of Christianity males regularly engaged in anal sex and all of the Greeks took young boy lovers.
So Godric would definitely have come from that background imo.
I think Eric was a viking, who were already feeling the effects of Christianity so homosexuality wasn't a common practiced, but butt fucking your enemies was common throughout the ancient world.
So they bummed for sure.
Back to Godric, I just think there is more to the story. How did he get kidnapped by the Fellowship?
Why did that guy just before he snapped his neck say to him 'Godric, its me!' as if they were allied to each other in some way? Godric obviously chose not to recognise any such loyalty.
There's something going on, why did he say to Eric 'I require very little blood any more'? Has he progressed almost to immortality? :detective:
Mark my word's he's going to turn out to be one twisted fuck, and surely a connection between him and Maryanne will be revealed.
After all they are both thousands of years old. Maryanne was a Greek Goddess, what was Godric?
We shall soon see......
Remember that Bill's begging to be released and his telling his maker he didn't love her came 70 YEARS after she turned him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
The fact he stayed with her all that time and didn't just leave her on day one shows a fixed, inevitable bond between them.
And personally Eric seems VERY interested in Godric to me. They've been together over 1000 years, they routinely kill people for sport and indulge all their lusts, you can't tell me that Godric didn't pound the shit out of Eric at one point, especially as Godric is over 2000 years old and grew up in an era where buggering your enemy was a universally practiced show of dominance.
It may suprise you but until the coming of Christianity males regularly engaged in anal sex and all of the Greeks took young boy lovers.
So Godric would definitely have come from that background imo.
I think Eric was a viking, who were already feeling the effects of Christianity so homosexuality wasn't a common practiced, but butt fucking your enemies was common throughout the ancient world.
So they bummed for sure.
Back to Godric, I just think there is more to the story. How did he get kidnapped by the Fellowship?
Why did that guy just before he snapped his neck say to him 'Godric, its me!' as if they were allied to each other in some way? Godric obviously chose not to recognise any such loyalty.
There's something going on, why did he say to Eric 'I require very little blood any more'? Has he progressed almost to immortality? :detective:
Mark my word's he's going to turn out to be one twisted fuck, and surely a connection between him and Maryanne will be revealed.
After all they are both thousands of years old. Maryanne was a Greek Goddess, what was Godric?
We shall soon see......[/quote]
As vampires age, they require less feeding.. that is common in vampire novels that i've read.. just FYI.
I'm familiar with the whole ancient greek and roman ways..
and yes that was 70+ years when bill said what he said, but remember, that lorena was probably all bill knew as far as vampires went. she turned in and kept him for her own, and she was all he had. and he tried to make it work, and wanted to make her happy, as his maker, but he couldn't fall in love with her..
regardless of all of that, i don't see any inconsistency within the story so i don't know why i'm still talking about it.
i think you need to get your mind out of the gutter w/ all these sexual ideas hahaha.. i mean, just because eric respects godric doesn't mean they got it on w/ each other.. not saying it wasn't possible, but i didn't get that vibe at least.. and yes godric was alive back during the time you're speaking of, but Eric wasn't, and times change.. I look up to some of my male friends even though i don't have sexual relations with them ;)
As vampires age, they require less feeding.. that is common in vampire novels that i've read.. just FYI.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33Remember that Bill's begging to be released and his telling his maker he didn't love her came 70 YEARS after she turned him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
The fact he stayed with her all that time and didn't just leave her on day one shows a fixed, inevitable bond between them.
And personally Eric seems VERY interested in Godric to me. They've been together over 1000 years, they routinely kill people for sport and indulge all their lusts, you can't tell me that Godric didn't pound the shit out of Eric at one point, especially as Godric is over 2000 years old and grew up in an era where buggering your enemy was a universally practiced show of dominance.
It may suprise you but until the coming of Christianity males regularly engaged in anal sex and all of the Greeks took young boy lovers.
So Godric would definitely have come from that background imo.
I think Eric was a viking, who were already feeling the effects of Christianity so homosexuality wasn't a common practiced, but butt fucking your enemies was common throughout the ancient world.
So they bummed for sure.
Back to Godric, I just think there is more to the story. How did he get kidnapped by the Fellowship?
Why did that guy just before he snapped his neck say to him 'Godric, its me!' as if they were allied to each other in some way? Godric obviously chose not to recognise any such loyalty.
There's something going on, why did he say to Eric 'I require very little blood any more'? Has he progressed almost to immortality? :detective:
Mark my word's he's going to turn out to be one twisted fuck, and surely a connection between him and Maryanne will be revealed.
After all they are both thousands of years old. Maryanne was a Greek Goddess, what was Godric?
We shall soon see......
I'm familiar with the whole ancient greek and roman ways..
and yes that was 70+ years when bill said what he said, but remember, that lorena was probably all bill knew as far as vampires went. she turned in and kept him for her own, and she was all he had. and he tried to make it work, and wanted to make her happy, as his maker, but he couldn't fall in love with her..
regardless of all of that, i don't see any inconsistency within the story so i don't know why i'm still talking about it.
i think you need to get your mind out of the gutter w/ all these sexual ideas hahaha.. i mean, just because eric respects godric doesn't mean they got it on w/ each other.. not saying it wasn't possible, but i didn't get that vibe at least.. and yes godric was alive back during the time you're speaking of, but Eric wasn't, and times change.. I look up to some of my male friends even though i don't have sexual relations with them ;)[/quote]
Really? I think Godric is the gayest looking character since Elijah Wood in Frodo Baggins.
He's the young man child, probably would have been considered the most sexually desirable figure in the ancient world to kings and rulers back in the day.
He was probably the boy lover of Leonidas, I expect he was also Antonious so beloved by the Roman emporer Hadrian.
If he lived that long of course he mixed with the highest of society, kings and rules.
I bet he was the ultimate object of male desire from Socrates to Oscar Wilde. I'm sure George Michael has had him over for parties too.
You can tell he has a ruthless Machievellian streak in him and he would have used his male charms to seduce a whose who of famous historical poof's. :)
Really? I think Godric is the gayest looking character since Elijah Wood in Frodo Baggins.
He's the young man child, probably would have been considered the most sexually desirable figure in the ancient world to kings and rulers back in the day.
He was probably the boy lover of Leonidas, I expect he was also Antonious so beloved by the Roman emporer Hadrian.
If he lived that long of course he mixed with the highest of society, kings and rules.
I bet he was the ultimate object of male desire from Socrates to Oscar Wilde. I'm sure George Michael has had him over for parties too.
You can tell he has a ruthless Machievellian streak in him and he would have used his male charms to seduce a whose who of famous historical poof's. :-)