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DenilsonTheReturn
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brocktonblockbust
DENILSON you never offer any solutions
No wise soldier discusses battle tactic and battle plans with a member from the other side.
Not a wise move big D. We had a group holed up in a village once, we told them exactly what we were going to do and they surrendered. You need to think things through, the entire system could stop on a dime for u if u choose the white, err I mean right words
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In South Sudan, a Never-Ending Hunger Season Puts Millions in Danger - The New York Times - www.nytimes.com
Big D what do u do to help these people or are u too busy with #whitegenocide
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Denilson hasn't done a damn thing to help black people
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brocktonblockbust
Denilson hasn't done a damn thing to help black people
That's one of the truest statements you've ever made. In fact, if I was black, I'd be praying for Denilson to please STFU already.
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In South Sudan, a Never-Ending Hunger Season Puts Millions in Danger - The New York Times -
www.nytimes.com
Big D what do u do to help these people or are u too busy with #whitegenocide
Don’t know if any of u following this but it’s very sad. Hate to hear anyone suffer like that.
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TitoFan
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brocktonblockbust
Denilson hasn't done a damn thing to help black people
That's one of the truest statements you've ever made. In fact, if I was black, I'd be praying for Denilson to please STFU already.
I am, and I am :cool:
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TitoFan
Suffice it to say that here on Planet Earth there are millions of interracial marriages and relationships.
And what's your point ? Because at this point you are trolling.
Because you ask a question, then I answer it, then you ask the same question again.
See when you say "millions of interracial marriages and relationships" all your really bothered about is black men banging white women.
Tell me when I'm lying ?
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DenilsonTheReturn
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TitoFan
Suffice it to say that here on Planet Earth there are millions of interracial marriages and relationships.
And what's your point ? Because at this point you are trolling.
Because you ask a question, then I answer it, then you ask the same question again.
See when you say "millions of interracial marriages and relationships" all your really bothered about is black men banging white women.
Telling me when I'm lying ?
You are not just barking up the wrong tree you are chasing your own tail and getting tempted by the smell of your own doo doo right now ;D :pissing:
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Ok so first I ask you what I consider to be a very good and applicable question:
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TitoFan
So the question begs, at what percentage does one cross over to the white side? Or to the black side? Just curious, because these things need to be taken into consideration. I mean, if you were to meet someone on the street, and he's lilly white, you've got your opinion already formed right? But what if you meet someone who comes from black and white parents?
Which brings the following rant from you, where you do everything but answer the question asked.
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DenilsonTheReturn
You should be saying what you’re saying to the white supremacist. Not me. It’s like saying to a woman who has been raped “Well you do no rape is wrong ? You do know that no man should sexually force themselves on to woman”
The fk you telling me her for ? She knows.
The same way black people know racism is fked up. We have been telling white people this for 100 years and your coming at me like “Well racial; lines are blurred, where is the tipping point from white to black”
TELL THAT TO THE WHITE SUPREMACIST !!!
FK out my face.
Tell that to your white mom or dad that or speak up when you hear racist sh*t said by family about black people and you want to get. Coming at me or any black person like we started this nonsense.
Yeah racism does not make sense in theory. I know race is a social construct. I know. I know. You don’t see white cats running around fighting black cats. I know. But I also know I live in a global system of white supremacy and they say “Fk your theory. Race does exist” and to be fair the white supremacist has made sure everyone knows it does exist.
And has history has shown that is a very POWERFUL-POWERFUL POWERFUL way to think.
So... being a kind and understanding soul, I ask the question again, in hopes of getting an answer this time.
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TitoFan
I'll ask again, but my question is free to be answered by white people as well. In a society with so much interracial marriage and kids from these marriages, where do you draw the line as to how you view people from a race perspective?
This time you go off on a wild rant about blacks and whites having sex, and that little tidbit where you claim that.....
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DenilsonTheReturn
They hype one or two interracial couples, like Serena Williams whose hubby (Alex Ohanian) is one of the main men at reddit which is white supremacist central and he says "
Racism is allowed on reddit. But not Welcome" or Meghan Markle
but there really is not that many interracial marriages or relationships.
At that point I'm clearly frustrated, as you've still managed to avoid answering my question, and I post the following.
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TitoFan
Wow. No need to continue after this quote.
Suffice it to say that here on Planet Earth there are millions of interracial marriages and relationships.
To which you inexplicably claim I'm trolling..... mumble something about having answered my question when you really haven't.... then comically tell me that what I'm bothered about is black men banging white women.
At no time have you made a serious effort to answer my question about your position on those people who come from totally mixed, interracial marriages as far as where they fall in your black-white scale.
And I'm the one who's trolling. :rolleyes:
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DenilsonTheReturn
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Suffice it to say that here on Planet Earth there are millions of interracial marriages and relationships.
And what's your point ? Because at this point you are trolling.
Because you ask a question, then I answer it, then you ask the same question again.
See when you say "millions of interracial marriages and relationships" all your really bothered about is black men banging white women.
Tell me when I'm lying ?
So for the umpteenth time, and out of sheer morbid curiosity by now, I'll ask the question once again.
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Re: I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes
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TitoFan
So the question begs, at what percentage does one cross over to the white side? Or to the black side? Just curious, because these things need to be taken into consideration. I mean, if you were to meet someone on the street, and he's lilly white, you've got your opinion already formed right? But what if you meet someone who comes from black and white parents?
And I did answer it.
And to be honest it's a good question.
As for as white people
All whites are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white.
Dravidians (Indians, Pakistans, Afghanistan, Nepal, Maldives, and Sri Lankans) and Arabs (Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia) are considered Caucasians.
So this Dravidian is caucasian.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/If5QA_gDQCw/hqdefault.jpg
And these Arabs are Caucasian
http://www.thetower.org/wp-content/u...2/DSC_1964.jpg
Not because of skin color but because of things like face and skull structure
The original Caucasians originated in the Caucasus mountains as one group, some of them went north and became lighter and evolved different hair and eye colors, some went south developed darkin skin from the stronger sun.
Yeah sure within the Caucasian supergroup, it’s hard to say where “white” ends and “non-white” begins, it’s more of a continuum with Caucasians being less white as they move closer to the equator.
I guess if there’s anything that defines whites as a distinct racial group, it’s their variety in hair and eye colors combined with white skin. As you move toward the Mediterranean and eastward, that diversity gradually becomes less prominent until it disappears altogether with Dravidians on the “Dark caucasian” extreme.
This is also why some people fight over whether Italians are really white. As you move south in Italy, they become swarthy complexioned and you don’t see variety in hair and eye colors.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2nipfli.jpg
If they retained their whiter skin color and various eye and hair colors like N. Italians, their “whiteness” would not be in question. S. Italians are sort of at the borders of whiteness, like Turks, Lebanese, Greeks, some Persians.
How many whites exist or “who is white” is just a matter of where they decide to make the cutoff point somewhere between Nordic and Dravidian. Russians don’t think the immigrants from the Caucasus region are “white”, even though to me they look white. Yet some consider Persian and Lebanese white and even some Aryan Indians.
That’s where “white” and "race" as a social construct comes into play — namely, defining exactly who in that Caucasian continuum gets to join the white club.
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TitoFan
So the question begs, at what percentage does one cross over to the white side? Or to the black side? Just curious, because these things need to be taken into consideration. I mean, if you were to meet someone on the street, and he's lilly white, you've got your opinion already formed right? But what if you meet someone who comes from black and white parents?
And I did answer it.
And to be honest it's a good question.
As for as white people
All whites are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white.
Dravidians (Indians, Pakistans, Afghanistan, Nepal, Maldives, and Sri Lankans) and Arabs (Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia) are considered Caucasians.
So this Dravidian is caucasian.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/If5QA_gDQCw/hqdefault.jpg
And these Arabs are Caucasian
http://www.thetower.org/wp-content/u...2/DSC_1964.jpg
Not because of skin color but because of things like face and skull structure
The original Caucasians originated in the Caucasus mountains as one group, some of them went north and became lighter and evolved different hair and eye colors, some went south developed darkin skin from the stronger sun.
Yeah sure within the Caucasian supergroup, it’s hard to say where “white” ends and “non-white” begins, it’s more of a continuum with Caucasians being less white as they move closer to the equator.
I guess if there’s anything that defines whites as a distinct racial group, it’s their variety in hair and eye colors combined with white skin. As you move toward the Mediterranean and eastward, that diversity gradually becomes less prominent until it disappears altogether with Dravidians on the “Dark caucasian” extreme.
This is also why some people fight over whether Italians are really white. As you move south in Italy, they become swarthy complexioned and you don’t see variety in hair and eye colors.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2nipfli.jpg
If they retained their whiter skin color and various eye and hair colors like N. Italians, their “whiteness” would not be in question. S. Italians are sort of at the borders of whiteness, like Turks, Lebanese, Greeks, some Persians.
How many whites exist or “who is white” is just a matter of where they decide to make the cutoff point somewhere between Nordic and Dravidian. Russians don’t think the immigrants from the Caucasus region are “white”, even though to me they look white. Yet some consider Persian and Lebanese white and even some Aryan Indians.
That’s where “white” and "race" as a social construct comes into play — namely, defining exactly who in that Caucasian continuum gets to join the white club.
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Well I appreciate you honestly trying to address the question. Let's take it by parts.
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DenilsonTheReturn
As for as white people
All whites are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white.
Dravidians (Indians, Pakistans, Afghanistan, Nepal, Maldives, and Sri Lankans) and Arabs (Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia) are considered Caucasians.
You Google "Caucasian", and you get this:
Cau·ca·sian
kôˈkāZHən
adjective
1. NORTH AMERICAN
white-skinned; of European origin.
"twenty of the therapists were Caucasian, two were African American, and two were Hispanic"
2. relating to the Caucasus.
noun
1. NORTH AMERICAN
a white person; a person of European origin.
"the man is described as being a 50-year-old Caucasian with a full head of graying hair"
2. a person from the Caucasus.
"the Caucasians of Southern Russia"
The North American part of the Google definition would appear to contradict your statement.
Yet you look up the term in Wikipedia, and it says, among other things, this:
"The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid[1] or Europid)[2] is a grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon, which, depending on which of the historical race classifications used, have usually included some or all of the ancient and modern populations of Europe, the Caucasus, Asia Minor, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia, Central Asia and South Asia.[3]
First introduced in the 1780s by members of the Göttingen School of History,[4] the term denoted one of three purported major races of humankind (Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid).[5] In biological anthropology, Caucasoid has been used as an umbrella term for phenotypically similar groups from these different regions, with a focus on skeletal anatomy, and especially cranial morphology, over skin tone.[6] Ancient and modern "Caucasoid" populations were thus held to have ranged in complexion from white to dark brown.[7] Since the second half of the 20th century, physical anthropologists have moved away from a typological understanding of human biological diversity towards a genomic and population-based perspective, and have tended to understand race as a social classification of humans based on phenotype and ancestry as well as cultural factors, as the concept is also understood in the social sciences.[8] Although Caucasian / Caucasoid and their counterparts Negroid and Mongoloid have been used less frequently as a biological classification in forensic anthropology (where it is sometimes used as a way to identify the ancestry of human remains based on interpretations of osteological measurements), the terms remain in use by some anthropologists.[9]
In the United States, the root term Caucasian has also often been used in a different, societal context as a synonym for "white" or "of European ancestry".[10][11] Its usage in American English has been criticized.[12]"
So Wikipedia would seem to back up your claim, as well as question the Google definition. As you read further, it appears the term has morphed over time and, not only has its usage in American English been criticized, as stated above.... but some even write about whether the term is outdated and even needed any more. This is all quite interesting to me, as I'll admit to not knowing about the history of the Caucasian term before now.
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DenilsonTheReturn
How many whites exist or “who is white” is just a matter of where they decide to make the cutoff point somewhere between Nordic and Dravidian. Russians don’t think the immigrants from the Caucasus region are “white”, even though to me they look white. Yet some consider Persian and Lebanese white and even some Aryan Indians.
That’s where “white” and "race" as a social construct comes into play — namely, defining exactly who in that Caucasian continuum gets to join the white club.
Now we get to the crux of the matter and the original question. Who is "white" and who isn't. But my point goes beyond trying to define whether Dravidians, Persians, or Lebanese are considered "white" and by whom. It also includes the massive and ever-growing amount of cross breeding between all these races/ ethnicities (call them what you like). This "continuum" you refer to is far more blurry and undefined, and becomes even more so as time goes on. You've got combinations of combinations of combinations to the Nth power.
Kudos for finally providing a serious answer to a serious question, and not talking about "blacks banging whites" or anything like that. I myself can be viewed "white" by some, "non-white" by others. I'm a Puerto Rican with Italian ancestry. Two brothers came from Italy in the 1800's and settled on the island.... says the family tree I came out of. But Puerto Rico is notorious for having a vast mixture of cultures in one big melting pot, much like the States. Most of us have Spaniard blood, African blood, native Indian blood, North American blood, etc, etc. You can find blond, blue-eyed Puerto Ricans, and black Puerto Ricans.
One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.
But back to my original question: At what point do you draw the "line" between black and white? My own answer would be that nowadays it's almost an impossible task. Again, the "combinations of combinations" thing. But I admit it depends who you ask. You ask some people I've met in life, and they'll say I'm not "white" and neither is any Puerto Rican, Mexican, Arab, Indian, or any of a host of other origins other than Europe..... and that would probably come with some asterisks attached.
I've seen racism of the worst kind up close and personal. Never against me personally, thankfully...... but still close enough to be troubling in its nature. Not having been raised as a race-conscious person, racism is something I have a hard time coming to grips with. Tell you the truth, it's nauseating. Because it portrays ignorance. But the door swings both ways, Denilson. There's racism against blacks, Latinos, Asians, etc. But there's also racism against whites.
I could fill several pages with dozens if not hundreds of anecdotes relating to race..... many negative, but some positive. But I'm afraid it would drag on and on.
Still, I'll leave you with the original question, now asked from me to you. How do YOU differentiate between "white" person and a "non-white" person, in order to determine whether that person is a White Supremacist or not? I have to ask, because if we ever met on the street, I'd like to know how you view me.
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When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
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Denilson is wrong because he thinks Arabs are Caucasians but actually Arabs are *****semites*****
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It's not refreshing to hear the views of a rich narcissistic bigot. The man is simply an awful excuse for a human being really.
I lived in Tanzania for many years, and therefore regularly visited places like Kenya, Zambia, Botswana and others. Beautiful countries, filled with generally nice people. No money though and obvious corruption.
We left Africa and then lived in Detroit and Chicago for 7 years. Genuine shitholes. Much richer than Africa, even the so called ghettoes. Not filled with generally nice people. Just as much obvious corruption and more crime.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4382&stc=1
That is racist
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When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
It's not just skin colour and yes a lot of Asians are more racist than white people. It's often why many white racist men marry Asian women, because a lot of white women would not put up with their racism.
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walrus
When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
It's not just skin colour and yes a lot of Asians are more racist than white people. It's often why many white racist men marry Asian women, because a lot of white women would not put up with their racism.
What a stupid thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself coming out with comments like this all the time. I would argue people marrying within their own race tend to be terribly racist as evidenced by the post above.
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walrus
When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
It's not just skin colour and yes a lot of Asians are more racist than white people. It's often why many white racist men marry Asian women, because a lot of white women would not put up with their racism.
What a stupid thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself coming out with comments like this all the time. I would argue people marrying within their own race tend to be terribly racist as evidenced by the post above.
All the time ? ;D Is it too un-pc for you mate. It is a reality, get over it, or have I hit a raw nerve?
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TitoFan
Now we get to the crux of the matter and the original question. Who is "white" and who isn't. But my point goes beyond trying to define whether Dravidians, Persians, or Lebanese are considered "white" and by whom. It also includes the massive and ever-growing amount of cross breeding between all these races/ ethnicities (call them what you like). This "continuum" you refer to is far more blurry and undefined, and becomes even more so as time goes on. You've got combinations of combinations of combinations to the Nth power.
You can talk this talk but when you fill out a form what you see yourself is not blurred or undefined.
You tick the white box. The same with @brocktonblockbust
You tick
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TitoFan
I myself can be viewed "white" by some, "non-white" by others. I'm a Puerto Rican with Italian ancestry. Two brothers came from Italy in the 1800's and settled on the island.... says the family tree I came out of. But Puerto Rico is notorious for having a vast mixture of cultures in one big melting pot, much like the States. Most of us have Spaniard blood, African blood, native Indian blood, North American blood, etc, etc. You can find blond, blue-eyed Puerto Ricans, and black Puerto Ricans.
Please. Stop with the B.S. Just stop.
I come across death Certificates and the Cubans – P.Ricans and Latinos in general always check White and the Hispanic origin, Cuban. NEVER Black. I used to work at hospital the majority always choose white on their demographics forms.
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TitoFan
One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.
Meet Johnny Benitez This latino immigrant spearheads the racist alt-right
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSL4JMbWkAA924P.jpg
I’d much rather ask a cross section of black Puerto Ricans because I don’t think they’d say there is a lack of racial issues. I know if I went to Puerto Rico it would be the same old story. The white Puerto Ricans on top and the black Puerto Ricans on the bottom. The black P.Ricans (As a group) would live in the worst areas, the most unemployed, most in prison, shot and killed by police, seen as dumb and lazy and blamed for the crime, have the worst health.
It would not even take me a week to see that.
But black people in Puerto Rico are reliant on white for jobs, houses etc. So white P.Ricans can slap down any black person and put a hurt on any black person REAL BAD who talks about racism and that's how racism works. It's creates a dependency on the people you are sh*tting on.
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TitoFan
I've seen racism of the worst kind up close and personal. Never against me personally, thankfully...... but still close enough to be troubling in its nature. Not having been raised as a race-conscious person, racism is something I have a hard time coming to grips with. Tell you the truth, it's nauseating. Because it portrays ignorance. But the door swings both ways, Denilson. There's racism against blacks, Latinos, Asians, etc. But there's also racism against whites.
Don’t include black people in with Latino’s and Asians. Black people have no allies. Most Latino’s and Asians are team white supremacy and can't stand black people.
Racism against whites ? Name one thing that black people (as a group) have stopped white people (as a group) from doing that they had a right to do ? For example, denying them the right to work, own a home, live in a certain area, get a just trial, an education, or use any public facility.
Sure a black person can come up to a white person and bash their skull with a rock because he doesn’t like white people. But that black person is an INDIVIDUAL acting as an INDIVIDUAL and there is no system in place that will support his right to harm whites (Not to mention that white people make sure they live as far away from black people as possible and have as fewer black people working with them as possible)
However white policeman murder black people and get away with it because there is a system in place that allows them to do it. (the courts, the police, the judge, the prison systems).
That is why black people can't be racist. We do not have a system (the power or the institutions) that allows us to mistreat people based on color.
Of course, black people can be PREJUDICED (meaning to pre-judge) someone based on color but that prejudice is limited to what that INDIVIDUAL can do to another INDIVIDUAL.
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Still, I'll leave you with the original question, now asked from me to you. How do YOU differentiate between "white" person and a "non-white" person, in order to determine whether that person is a White Supremacist or not? I have to ask, because if we ever met on the street, I'd like to know how you view me.
What you have to understand is when I’m talking about white people it has nothing to do with genetics. Whiteness is given by the society based on what people presume you to be.
And that presumption has nothing to do with genotype (since I cannot know a white person DNA just by looking at him) but rather, everything to do with phenotype, which is the way certain genes are expressed outwardly EG - Skin pigmentation, and a handful of other characteristics, which are controlled by about six genes out of 30,000 in the overall human genome.
Asking me “How do I differentiate between "white" person and a "non-white" person, in order to determine whether that person is a White Supremacist or not?”
Is like me asking you “What are the specific mathematically facial ratio proportions that make a woman face beautiful and what are the mathematical body proportions’ that are sexy?”
You don’t fking know. But guess what ? You know beautiful women when you see it. Same with a white person. I know when I see it. Yeah sure they may have some black grandfather hidden away.
But so what ? They are white and reap the benefits for being white.
Finally I believe all white people are racist. I believe that all white people raised in a society where racism has been (and still is) so prevalent, will have internalized elements of racist thinking. So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority has been placed, it's likely that everyone in such places will have internalized some of that conditioning.
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When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
It's not just skin colour and yes a lot of Asians are more racist than white people. It's often why many white racist men marry Asian women, because a lot of white women would not put up with their racism.
What a stupid thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself coming out with comments like this all the time. I would argue people marrying within their own race tend to be terribly racist as evidenced by the post above.
All the time ? ;D Is it too un-pc for you mate. It is a reality, get over it, or have I hit a raw nerve?
Ha ha beanz is trolling cause he thinks he knows something. U said yes about Asians but skipped my middle eastern observation I can’t imagine why.
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When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
It's not just skin colour and yes a lot of Asians are more racist than white people. It's often why many white racist men marry Asian women, because a lot of white women would not put up with their racism.
What a stupid thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself coming out with comments like this all the time. I would argue people marrying within their own race tend to be terribly racist as evidenced by the post above.
All the time ? ;D Is it too un-pc for you mate. It is a reality, get over it, or have I hit a raw nerve?
Ha ha beanz is trolling cause he thinks he knows something. U said yes about Asians but skipped my middle eastern observation I can’t imagine why.
It's in your head Walrus. Seriously why would I think racism was only to be found among white people and Asians and not those in the middle east ? Well done I am patting you on the back for making a post, now have a little think.
You and Brockton and Lyle, and Miles unbelievably, are not really that different to Denilson in that rather than acknowledge that people are individuals with their own beliefs across a whole spectrum of possibilities, you put anyone that disagrees with you in a box so that you can just dismiss them rather than acknowledge that. Us and them. I don't look at anyone else on the board in that way but it gets really hard when you all keep so on script with your bum buddy rubbish. You are all so hypersensitive it's getting to be a joke where everyone has to tippytoe around you. EVERYTHING is translated as hostility unless it is agreeing with your group or being really childish. Nuts.
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When we classify an entire group of people as having a collective guilt or responsibility based on skin color it is racism. How about whites who never participated in owning slaves throughout a family tree. They are still guilty as they are white. When u think about it it is quite stupid. I give u credit Tito tits for trying to rational discuss things with the irrational big D. I just can’t be bothered. Big D is quite fortunate to be in the UK. Spend some time in Afghanistan then come talk to me about racism. Fuck I tell ya I’ve seen some crazy shit in the Middle East and China regarding racism
It's not just skin colour and yes a lot of Asians are more racist than white people. It's often why many white racist men marry Asian women, because a lot of white women would not put up with their racism.
What a stupid thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself coming out with comments like this all the time. I would argue people marrying within their own race tend to be terribly racist as evidenced by the post above.
All the time ? ;D Is it too un-pc for you mate. It is a reality, get over it, or have I hit a raw nerve?
Ha ha beanz is trolling cause he thinks he knows something. U said yes about Asians but skipped my middle eastern observation I can’t imagine why.
It's in your head Walrus. Seriously why would I think racism was only to be found among white people and Asians and not those in the middle east ? Well done I am patting you on the back for making a post, now have a little think.
You and Brockton and Lyle, and Miles unbelievably, are not really that different to Denilson in that rather than acknowledge that people are individuals with their own beliefs across a whole spectrum of possibilities, you put anyone that disagrees with you in a box so that you can just dismiss them rather than acknowledge that. Us and them. I don't look at anyone else on the board in that way but it gets really hard when you all keep so on script with your bum buddy rubbish. You are all so hypersensitive it's getting to be a joke where everyone has to tippytoe around you. EVERYTHING is translated as hostility unless it is agreeing with your group or being really childish. Nuts.
You r my @bff but u r rather hopeless
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I mistook your 15 seconds of lucidity in your previous post for maturity on your part, and someone finally managing to engage you in serious conversation.
My bad, and it won't happen again.
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Now we get to the crux of the matter and the original question. Who is "white" and who isn't. But my point goes beyond trying to define whether Dravidians, Persians, or Lebanese are considered "white" and by whom. It also includes the massive and ever-growing amount of cross breeding between all these races/ ethnicities (call them what you like). This "continuum" you refer to is far more blurry and undefined, and becomes even more so as time goes on. You've got combinations of combinations of combinations to the Nth power.
You can talk this talk but when you fill out a form what you see yourself is not blurred or undefined.
You tick the white box. The same with @
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I myself can be viewed "white" by some, "non-white" by others. I'm a Puerto Rican with Italian ancestry. Two brothers came from Italy in the 1800's and settled on the island.... says the family tree I came out of. But Puerto Rico is notorious for having a vast mixture of cultures in one big melting pot, much like the States. Most of us have Spaniard blood, African blood, native Indian blood, North American blood, etc, etc. You can find blond, blue-eyed Puerto Ricans, and black Puerto Ricans.
Please. Stop with the B.S. Just stop.
I come across death Certificates and the Cubans – P.Ricans and Latinos in general always check White and the Hispanic origin, Cuban. NEVER Black. I used to work at hospital the majority always choose white on their demographics forms.
You do a lot Death Certificate research do you? Fascinating.
News Flash: If the form I'm filling out has the box for Hispanic, I tick it. If it doesn't, I tick "white", or the closest one I can identify with. If I was a black Puerto Rican, I'd probably STILL tick the Hispanic box. If not available, I'd probably tick "black." Your point is ignorant and invalid.
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I’d much rather ask a cross section of black Puerto Ricans because I don’t think they’d say there is a lack of racial issues. I know if I went to Puerto Rico it would be the same old story. The white Puerto Ricans on top and the black Puerto Ricans on the bottom. The black P.Ricans (As a group) would live in the worst areas, the most unemployed, most in prison, shot and killed by police, seen as dumb and lazy and blamed for the crime, have the worst health.
It would not even take me a week to see that.
But black people in Puerto Rico are reliant on white for jobs, houses etc. So white P.Ricans can slap down any black person and put a hurt on any black person REAL BAD who talks about racism and that's how racism works. It's creates a dependency on the people you are sh*tting on.
This is where you finally come unglued and revert back to your "frothing-at-the-mouth", ignorant self. You've never been to Puerto Rico..... yet you know what you would see and hear. There's no amount of facepalming or eye rolling that can do justice to just how ignorant that comment and assumption is. Do everyone a favor and actually do some traveling outside that 2-block radius around your home, before you continue spouting your ignorant, racist bullshit. Yes..... by the far the biggest racist in this entire forum is you, Denilson. We all know it.
To use your vernacular......... The fk you know about black people in Puerto Rico being "reliant on whites for jobs, houses, etc" and all the ignorant bullshit you continue to spout?
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Finally I believe all white people are racist. I believe that all white people raised in a society where racism has been (and still is) so prevalent, will have internalized elements of racist thinking. So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority has been placed, it's likely that everyone in such places will have internalized some of that conditioning.
I skipped over the rest of your unintelligible babble to get to this. At least racist Roseanne tried to pawn off her racism on Ambien. What's YOUR goddamn excuse?
You know what the reality is?
The reality is that you are a loser in life, who has discovered that by crying "racism" across the board, regardless of the person, regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the context, regardless of who you are speaking to, regardless of anything on God's green Earth..... by crying "racism" regardless of all these things you can excuse your own failures in life and blame them on someone else. Any attempt to reason with you, and you turn it around and comically assign it to some obscure, convoluted conspiracy where everyone is reading from a script so we can all look good. You made up your mind a long time ago that you're on this "island" where there's White Supremacy all around you. Hell.... you even profess not to hate white people. You just know about their...... our system. Yes, because even though I'm Puerto Rican, I'm white. So yes..... I'm in on it.
But guess what. I've seen your ramblings, copied and pasted on other forums, where you go in...... dirty the waters..... and then pop back out for awhile. That alone crumbles any shred of credibility you may have thought you had. So I'm back to one of my original theories. You're either trolling....... and just having a good laugh because you're THAT bored........ or you're actually serious in which case you are one SAD individual.
My guess is you're in your 20's or 30's. No way a 40-year old can think like you and survive in this life. So based on that, good luck in the future.
Hopefully before you pass to that great "beyond"........... (damn, I forgot....... God is WHITE)........ never mind.
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~ass-rippin right there, NO VASELINE THIS TIME , MI HERMANO,. FUCKING ****OUCH***
BORRIQUA BAZOOKA *HITS HOME*
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Tits I complimented but warned u about trying to conversate with Big D
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I know bro. I'm incorrigible what can I say.
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I know bro. I'm incorrigible what can I say.
Yeah u can't resist that ~BASELINE~
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I mistook your 15 seconds of lucidity in your previous post for maturity on your part, and someone finally managing to engage you in serious conversation.
My bad, and it won't happen again.
I take that as a
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The problem that you have is that you try to go logical. Once you try to go logical with racism then it's pretty easy to debate you.
What really frustrates you is that in the back of your mind there is some crawling doubt that........ I'm right.
So you keep on opposing what I have to say.
You think you're having a debate, but since you mostly derail convo’s by ad homing you think you win.
Yet at some level you know you didn't win. So you come back. Because the doubt has not been killed off…..sometimes a baby just has to cry
I know it's heavy. You get running when you run into black men like me who can counter all your points you got from.
DON'T RUN.
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You do a lot Death Certificate research do you? Fascinating.
News Flash: If the form I'm filling out has the box for Hispanic, I tick it. If it doesn't, I tick "white", or the closest one I can identify with. If I was a black Puerto Rican, I'd probably STILL tick the Hispanic box. If not available, I'd probably tick "black." Your point is ignorant and invalid
Well why don't you complain ? According to you the racial lines are blurred. Right ? Where is the cut off between white and black ?
See where is all that talk when your filling out a form ?
Secondly show me a form that in P.Rico or States where your only option would be black ? Fk outta here with your "I'd probably tick black" nonsense
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This is where you finally come unglued and revert back to your "frothing-at-the-mouth", ignorant self.
You seem obsessed with name calling because you know if you don't, you will eventually run out of knowledge. But if you resort to mudslinging, it's become a problem of character, not smarts.
So it turns any discussion into a petty competition, just like it does in school-yards and it quickly deteriorates into a 'pushing and shoving' contest. If you're discussing something and you think you're opinion is superior for whatever reason, then show it, you lose the moral high ground when you return to an immature attitude that you should have grown out of a long time ago.
you can vanquishing someone by merely by using forceful words. So from that point of view the name-calling and ad hominem make senses for them : As they are an attempt to discredit the speaker.
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You've never been to Puerto Rico..... yet you know what you would see and Thear. There's no amount of facepalming or eye rolling that can do justice to just how ignorant that comment and assumption is. Do everyone a favor and actually do some traveling outside that 2-block radius around your home, before you continue spouting your ignorant, racist bullshit. Yes..... by the far the biggest racist in this entire forum is you, Denilson. We all know it.
But here is thing. You never said I was lying. You can run mouth all you want
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The reality is that you are a loser in life, who has discovered that by crying "racism" across the board, regardless of the person, regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the context, regardless of who you are speaking to, regardless of anything on God's green Earth..... by crying "racism" regardless of all these things you can excuse your own failures in life and blame them on someone else. Any attempt to reason with you, and you turn it around and comically assign it to some obscure, convoluted conspiracy where everyone is reading from a script so we can all look good. You made up your mind a long time ago that you're on this "island" where there's White Supremacy all around you. Hell.... you even profess not to hate white people. You just know about their...... our system. Yes, because even though I'm Puerto Rican, I'm white. So yes..... I'm in on it.
But guess what. I've seen your ramblings, copied and pasted on other forums, where you go in...... dirty the waters..... and then pop back out for awhile. That alone crumbles any shred of credibility you may have thought you had. So I'm back to one of my original theories. You're either trolling....... and just having a good laugh because you're THAT bored........ or you're actually serious in which case you are one SAD individual.
My guess is you're in your 20's or 30's. No way a 40-year old can think like you and survive in this life. So based on that, good luck in the future.
Hopefully before you pass to that great "beyond"........... (damn, I forgot....... God is WHITE)........ never mind.
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This is how you argue.
You say I'm a troll because your a troll.
You say I'm racist because your racist.
You say I ramble because your ramble
It's called 'projection.' When someone subconsciously realizes that a particular trait applies to them, they attempt to locate that trait in others, so as to alleviate the stigma or self-doubt engendered by the trait in question.
Your feeling offended by the same discussions you claim you wanted to have, and are getting entitled about discussions that yours theirs to feel entitled to. You realize your wrong, and then get defensive, because “white has to be right”.
That’s where the ad-hominems start kicking in. So you toss out a few insults "Your loser" etc and then claiming you won by insulting and derailing until the initial topic is too screwed up to continue with. It’s not even an argument because you stopped seeing it as such the minute you didn’t get the pedestal you wanted.
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To use your vernacular......... The fk you know about black people in Puerto Rico being "reliant on whites for jobs, houses, etc" and all the ignorant bullshit you continue to spout?
Once again you never said I was lying.
P.S - Saying I'm liar now means nothing.
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You say I don't use proper grammar because YOUR a proper grammar ;D
LOL get the fuck outta here dude, nobody gives a shit what color you are behind your keyboard YOU'RE a retard
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Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery etc and when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people. It is not productive. I’d like to know what big D thinks will help with the issue other than #whitegenocide. Sure I’m white so I don’t have the perspective of African Americans but I can’t imagine walking around with the hatred that my boy big D does. I still think he may be a fifty year old white guy wearing a dirty shirt, drinking beer as he sits in front of his computer having a piss on us. He probably goes to the pub once a month when he gets his welfare check and shows his other white buddies all of his posts as they laugh all night. If that is the case, it is quite funny. Big D takes a while to respond to these posts and responds in a prewritten speech type thing. I really think Big D is part of the club and is actually trying to make us all white supremacists, he already converted my boy tits and I think mikes is out shopping for a hood, cross and a few gallons of petrol
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Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery etc and when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people. It is not productive. I’d like to know what big D thinks will help with the issue other than #whitegenocide. Sure I’m white so I don’t have the perspective of African Americans but I can’t imagine walking around with the hatred that my boy big D does. I still think he may be a fifty year old white guy wearing a dirty shirt, drinking beer as he sits in front of his computer having a piss on us. He probably goes to the pub once a month when he gets his welfare check and shows his other white buddies all of his posts as they laugh all night. If that is the case, it is quite funny. Big D takes a while to respond to these posts and responds in a prewritten speech type thing. I really think Big D is part of the club and is actually trying to make us all white supremacists, he already converted my boy tits and I think mikes is out shopping for a hood, cross and a few gallons of petrol
He may be white but at birth..... he was black. He's probably also from Portugal.
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I'm pretty sure he's also highly trained.
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Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery. nd when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people
O. Yeah it's easy to say in 2018 "It was fked up bk then. But all good now" but guess what ? Even bk then in the 50s and 60's whites used to say "Well it was bad in the 20's. But ok now. That Martin Luther King is a trouble causer"
Second black people have to watch what they say around white people. Because black people (for the most part) are reliant on whites for jobs and houses etc.
Let some of your "African Americans" friends talk about racism and white people the way I do or when they are at home or around other black people. You'd RUN to human resources. So if a black person is in a workplace often they have to be either ass kissing, feminine, too smiley, non confrontational. That's why the relationship between blacks and whites is the most TACKY FAKE PATHETIC relationship on the planet.
Why ?
Because economic relationship between white and blacks is tacky. The criminal justice relationship is tacky. Everything is tacky. But both races have learned to engage is some tacky fake bullsh*t were everyone pretends like everything is ok.
Even outside of work most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. In these ways and others whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why the likes of @TitoFan laughably says
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One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.
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The dark streets of Liverpool running hot and cold water electricity to boot.
It's rough out there spoken by a guy who likes the fine things in life unless the last time I went to Liverpool it had turned into a shit hole in the last few months.😂
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Second black people have to watch what they say around white people. Because black people (for the most part) are reliant on whites for jobs and houses etc
Yyyyyyeah if there's one thing I've noticed it's how hesitant to speak their minds black people are in general
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Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery. nd when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people
O. Yeah it's easy to say in 2018 "It was fked up bk then. But all good now" but guess what ? Even bk then in the 50s and 60's whites used to say "Well it was bad in the 20's. But ok now. That Martin Luther King is a trouble causer"
Second black people have to watch what they say around white people. Because black people (for the most part) are reliant on whites for jobs and houses etc.
Let some of your "African Americans" friends talk about racism and white people the way I do or when they are at home or around other black people. You'd RUN to human resources. So if a black person is in a workplace often they have to be either ass kissing, feminine, too smiley, non confrontational. That's why the relationship between blacks and whites is the most TACKY FAKE PATHETIC relationship on the planet.
Why ?
Because economic relationship between white and blacks is tacky. The criminal justice relationship is tacky. Everything is tacky. But both races have learned to engage is some tacky fake bullsh*t were everyone pretends like everything is ok.
Even outside of work most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. In these ways and others whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why the likes of @TitoFan laughably says
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One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.
No big D I never said things were great now I said better. My point was you (although I think u r white) are not accomplishing anything with hatred and racism. Perhaps blacks do tone words down out of fear of HR at work but don’t think we have don’t do the same. We live in constant fear of the current climate. Any racial or gender comment taken out of context and being white I’m screwed. I never know what will offend anyone. If you do work, what do u say to white peoples? How do u deal with them. How about when you pay for something and a white guy is working the register? What if your landlord is white? How does someone with all this spite interact in person. Here you can talk all the shit you want but u also got live in there real world and thode white peeps r everywhere. Why isn’t @DenilsonTheReturn Big D answering this I’m really want to know how he deals with the white man in public
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That's why the likes of @
TitoFan laughably says
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One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.
Yes, and I had also said this, which you obviously missed.
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Yes, because even though I'm Puerto Rican, I'm white. So yes..... I'm in on it.
You got me... I'm a white supremacist.
But really I'm not. You see, some of my best friends are black.
But you're wrong about there being racism in Puerto Rico.
You see, we ask every person coming into the island whether they're racist or not.
They can only come in if they cross their heart and hope to die that they're not racist.
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walrus
Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery. nd when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people
O. Yeah it's easy to say in 2018 "It was fked up bk then. But all good now" but guess what ? Even bk then in the 50s and 60's whites used to say "Well it was bad in the 20's. But ok now. That Martin Luther King is a trouble causer"
Second black people have to watch what they say around white people. Because black people (for the most part) are reliant on whites for jobs and houses etc.
Let some of your "African Americans" friends talk about racism and white people the way I do or when they are at home or around other black people. You'd RUN to human resources. So if a black person is in a workplace often they have to be either ass kissing, feminine, too smiley, non confrontational. That's why the relationship between blacks and whites is the most TACKY FAKE PATHETIC relationship on the planet.
Why ?
Because economic relationship between white and blacks is tacky. The criminal justice relationship is tacky. Everything is tacky. But both races have learned to engage is some tacky fake bullsh*t were everyone pretends like everything is ok.
Even outside of work most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. In these ways and others whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why the likes of @TitoFan laughably says
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TitoFan
One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.
No big D I never said things were great now I said better. My point was you (although I think u r white) are not accomplishing anything with hatred and racism. Perhaps blacks do tone words down out of fear of HR at work but don’t think we have don’t do the same. We live in constant fear of the current climate. Any racial or gender comment taken out of context and being white I’m screwed. I never know what will offend anyone. If you do work, what do u say to white peoples? How do u deal with them. How about when you pay for something and a white guy is working the register? What if your landlord is white? How does someone with all this spite interact in person. Here you can talk all the shit you want but u also got live in there real world and thode white peeps r everywhere.
That's just @walrus and I playing good cop bad cop, @DenilsonTheReturn .
Now he'll be understanding and I'll be mean.
That's how we were instructed to play the part at our KKK meetings.
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No big D I never said things were great now I said better.
That's like saying "being stabbed 3 times is better than being stabbed 4 times"
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My point was you (although I think u r white) are not accomplishing anything with hatred and racism.
I don't make fun of how white people talk or dress or look.
I don't make fun of the food white eat or the names they give their children.
I don't hold up the poorest and most criminal elements of white people as “what white people are like”.
I don't excuse violence against them saying that whites kill each other all the time.
I don't try and prove that a white person deserved to die if get shot and killed by the police
I don't call them racial slurs or compare them to animals.
I don't claim white people are intellectually inferior to black people
I don't call for their genocide or ethnic cleansing.
Black people do not spend ANY amount of time turning the image of white people into “Halloween costumes” or sport team mascots
Black people do not waste our time creating “jokes” about white people, such as the HUGE inventory of jokes created by whites about blks
Whenever I say something bad about whites it almost always has to do with their racism. Calling out racism is not racist.
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walrus
Perhaps blacks do tone words down out of fear of HR at work but don’t think we have don’t do the same. We live in constant fear of the current climate. Any racial or gender comment taken out of context and being white I’m screwed.
You could walk into work tomorrow and you can walk up to black person and call him anything "Nigger. Blackie. Ape" Anything.
You'd get transferred. Not sacked and that's worst case scenario. You'd most likely be asked "What's happened ?" and if you have a good enough lie. You'll be all right
Just this year a white bus driver was calling a black woman all times names ? His punishment ? He gets voted to the school board
Black men who mess up get specific court dates or sacked. White men GET TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER JOB.