I've been to 5 African countries: trust me, they're shitholes

[DenilsonTheReturn]

Now we get to the crux of the matter and the original question. Who is "white" and who isn't. But my point goes beyond trying to define whether Dravidians, Persians, or Lebanese are considered "white" and by whom. It also includes the massive and ever-growing amount of cross breeding between all these races/ ethnicities (call them what you like). This "continuum" you refer to is far more blurry and undefined, and becomes even more so as time goes on. You've got combinations of combinations of combinations to the Nth power.

You can talk this talk but when you fill out a form what you see yourself is not blurred or undefined.

You tick the white box. The same with @brocktonblockbust

You tick


.

I myself can be viewed "white" by some, "non-white" by others. I'm a Puerto Rican with Italian ancestry. Two brothers came from Italy in the 1800's and settled on the island.... says the family tree I came out of. But Puerto Rico is notorious for having a vast mixture of cultures in one big melting pot, much like the States. Most of us have Spaniard blood, African blood, native Indian blood, North American blood, etc, etc. You can find blond, blue-eyed Puerto Ricans, and black Puerto Ricans.

Please. Stop with the B.S. Just stop.

I come across death Certificates and the Cubans – P.Ricans and Latinos in general always check White and the Hispanic origin, Cuban. NEVER Black. I used to work at hospital the majority always choose white on their demographics forms.

One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.

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I’d much rather ask a cross section of black Puerto Ricans because I don’t think they’d say there is a lack of racial issues. I know if I went to Puerto Rico it would be the same old story. The white Puerto Ricans on top and the black Puerto Ricans on the bottom. The black P.Ricans (As a group) would live in the worst areas, the most unemployed, most in prison, shot and killed by police, seen as dumb and lazy and blamed for the crime, have the worst health.

It would not even take me a week to see that.

But black people in Puerto Rico are reliant on white for jobs, houses etc. So white P.Ricans can slap down any black person and put a hurt on any black person REAL BAD who talks about racism and that's how racism works. It's creates a dependency on the people you are sh*tting on.

I've seen racism of the worst kind up close and personal. Never against me personally, thankfully...... but still close enough to be troubling in its nature. Not having been raised as a race-conscious person, racism is something I have a hard time coming to grips with. Tell you the truth, it's nauseating. Because it portrays ignorance. But the door swings both ways, Denilson. There's racism against blacks, Latinos, Asians, etc. But there's also racism against whites.

Don’t include black people in with Latino’s and Asians. Black people have no allies. Most Latino’s and Asians are team white supremacy and can't stand black people.

Racism against whites ? Name one thing that black people (as a group) have stopped white people (as a group) from doing that they had a right to do ? For example, denying them the right to work, own a home, live in a certain area, get a just trial, an education, or use any public facility.

Sure a black person can come up to a white person and bash their skull with a rock because he doesn’t like white people. But that black person is an INDIVIDUAL acting as an INDIVIDUAL and there is no system in place that will support his right to harm whites (Not to mention that white people make sure they live as far away from black people as possible and have as fewer black people working with them as possible)

However white policeman murder black people and get away with it because there is a system in place that allows them to do it. (the courts, the police, the judge, the prison systems).

That is why black people can't be racist. We do not have a system (the power or the institutions) that allows us to mistreat people based on color.

Of course, black people can be PREJUDICED (meaning to pre-judge) someone based on color but that prejudice is limited to what that INDIVIDUAL can do to another INDIVIDUAL.

Still, I'll leave you with the original question, now asked from me to you. How do YOU differentiate between "white" person and a "non-white" person, in order to determine whether that person is a White Supremacist or not? I have to ask, because if we ever met on the street, I'd like to know how you view me.

What you have to understand is when I’m talking about white people it has nothing to do with genetics. Whiteness is given by the society based on what people presume you to be.
And that presumption has nothing to do with genotype (since I cannot know a white person DNA just by looking at him) but rather, everything to do with phenotype, which is the way certain genes are expressed outwardly EG - Skin pigmentation, and a handful of other characteristics, which are controlled by about six genes out of 30,000 in the overall human genome.

Asking me “How do I differentiate between "white" person and a "non-white" person, in order to determine whether that person is a White Supremacist or not?”

Is like me asking you “What are the specific mathematically facial ratio proportions that make a woman face beautiful and what are the mathematical body proportions’ that are sexy?”

You don’t fking know. But guess what ? You know beautiful women when you see it. Same with a white person. I know when I see it. Yeah sure they may have some black grandfather hidden away.

But so what ? They are white and reap the benefits for being white.

Finally I believe all white people are racist. I believe that all white people raised in a society where racism has been (and still is) so prevalent, will have internalized elements of racist thinking. So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority has been placed, it's likely that everyone in such places will have internalized some of that conditioning.

[TitoFan]

I mistook your 15 seconds of lucidity in your previous post for maturity on your part, and someone finally managing to engage you in serious conversation.
My bad, and it won't happen again.

Now we get to the crux of the matter and the original question. Who is "white" and who isn't. But my point goes beyond trying to define whether Dravidians, Persians, or Lebanese are considered "white" and by whom. It also includes the massive and ever-growing amount of cross breeding between all these races/ ethnicities (call them what you like). This "continuum" you refer to is far more blurry and undefined, and becomes even more so as time goes on. You've got combinations of combinations of combinations to the Nth power.

You can talk this talk but when you fill out a form what you see yourself is not blurred or undefined.

You tick the white box. The same with @brocktonblockbust

I myself can be viewed "white" by some, "non-white" by others. I'm a Puerto Rican with Italian ancestry. Two brothers came from Italy in the 1800's and settled on the island.... says the family tree I came out of. But Puerto Rico is notorious for having a vast mixture of cultures in one big melting pot, much like the States. Most of us have Spaniard blood, African blood, native Indian blood, North American blood, etc, etc. You can find blond, blue-eyed Puerto Ricans, and black Puerto Ricans.

Please. Stop with the B.S. Just stop.

I come across death Certificates and the Cubans – P.Ricans and Latinos in general always check White and the Hispanic origin, Cuban. NEVER Black. I used to work at hospital the majority always choose white on their demographics forms.

You do a lot Death Certificate research do you? Fascinating.

News Flash: If the form I'm filling out has the box for Hispanic, I tick it. If it doesn't, I tick "white", or the closest one I can identify with. If I was a black Puerto Rican, I'd probably STILL tick the Hispanic box. If not available, I'd probably tick "black." Your point is ignorant and invalid.

I’d much rather ask a cross section of black Puerto Ricans because I don’t think they’d say there is a lack of racial issues. I know if I went to Puerto Rico it would be the same old story. The white Puerto Ricans on top and the black Puerto Ricans on the bottom. The black P.Ricans (As a group) would live in the worst areas, the most unemployed, most in prison, shot and killed by police, seen as dumb and lazy and blamed for the crime, have the worst health.

It would not even take me a week to see that.

But black people in Puerto Rico are reliant on white for jobs, houses etc. So white P.Ricans can slap down any black person and put a hurt on any black person REAL BAD who talks about racism and that's how racism works. It's creates a dependency on the people you are sh*tting on.

This is where you finally come unglued and revert back to your "frothing-at-the-mouth", ignorant self. You've never been to Puerto Rico..... yet you know what you would see and hear. There's no amount of facepalming or eye rolling that can do justice to just how ignorant that comment and assumption is. Do everyone a favor and actually do some traveling outside that 2-block radius around your home, before you continue spouting your ignorant, racist bullshit. Yes..... by the far the biggest racist in this entire forum is you, Denilson. We all know it.

To use your vernacular......... The fk you know about black people in Puerto Rico being "reliant on whites for jobs, houses, etc" and all the ignorant bullshit you continue to spout?

Finally I believe all white people are racist. I believe that all white people raised in a society where racism has been (and still is) so prevalent, will have internalized elements of racist thinking. So in countries where beliefs in European/white superiority has been placed, it's likely that everyone in such places will have internalized some of that conditioning.

I skipped over the rest of your unintelligible babble to get to this. At least racist Roseanne tried to pawn off her racism on Ambien. What's YOUR goddamn excuse?

You know what the reality is?

The reality is that you are a loser in life, who has discovered that by crying "racism" across the board, regardless of the person, regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the context, regardless of who you are speaking to, regardless of anything on God's green Earth..... by crying "racism" regardless of all these things you can excuse your own failures in life and blame them on someone else. Any attempt to reason with you, and you turn it around and comically assign it to some obscure, convoluted conspiracy where everyone is reading from a script so we can all look good. You made up your mind a long time ago that you're on this "island" where there's White Supremacy all around you. Hell.... you even profess not to hate white people. You just know about their...... our system. Yes, because even though I'm Puerto Rican, I'm white. So yes..... I'm in on it.

But guess what. I've seen your ramblings, copied and pasted on other forums, where you go in...... dirty the waters..... and then pop back out for awhile. That alone crumbles any shred of credibility you may have thought you had. So I'm back to one of my original theories. You're either trolling....... and just having a good laugh because you're THAT bored........ or you're actually serious in which case you are one SAD individual.

My guess is you're in your 20's or 30's. No way a 40-year old can think like you and survive in this life. So based on that, good luck in the future.
Hopefully before you pass to that great "beyond"........... (damn, I forgot....... God is WHITE)........ never mind.

[brocktonblockbust]

~ass-rippin right there, NO VASELINE THIS TIME , MI HERMANO,. FUCKING ****OUCH***

BORRIQUA BAZOOKA *HITS HOME*

[walrus]

Tits I complimented but warned u about trying to conversate with Big D

[TitoFan]

I know bro. I'm incorrigible what can I say.

[brocktonblockbust]

I know bro. I'm incorrigible what can I say.

Yeah u can't resist that ~BASELINE~

[DenilsonTheReturn]

I mistook your 15 seconds of lucidity in your previous post for maturity on your part, and someone finally managing to engage you in serious conversation.
My bad, and it won't happen again.

I take that as a



The problem that you have is that you try to go logical. Once you try to go logical with racism then it's pretty easy to debate you.

What really frustrates you is that in the back of your mind there is some crawling doubt that........ I'm right.

So you keep on opposing what I have to say.

You think you're having a debate, but since you mostly derail convo’s by ad homing you think you win.

Yet at some level you know you didn't win. So you come back. Because the doubt has not been killed off…..sometimes a baby just has to cry

I know it's heavy. You get running when you run into black men like me who can counter all your points you got from.

DON'T RUN.

You do a lot Death Certificate research do you? Fascinating.

News Flash: If the form I'm filling out has the box for Hispanic, I tick it. If it doesn't, I tick "white", or the closest one I can identify with. If I was a black Puerto Rican, I'd probably STILL tick the Hispanic box. If not available, I'd probably tick "black." Your point is ignorant and invalid

Well why don't you complain ? According to you the racial lines are blurred. Right ? Where is the cut off between white and black ?

See where is all that talk when your filling out a form ?

Secondly show me a form that in P.Rico or States where your only option would be black ? Fk outta here with your "I'd probably tick black" nonsense

This is where you finally come unglued and revert back to your "frothing-at-the-mouth", ignorant self.

You seem obsessed with name calling because you know if you don't, you will eventually run out of knowledge. But if you resort to mudslinging, it's become a problem of character, not smarts.

So it turns any discussion into a petty competition, just like it does in school-yards and it quickly deteriorates into a 'pushing and shoving' contest. If you're discussing something and you think you're opinion is superior for whatever reason, then show it, you lose the moral high ground when you return to an immature attitude that you should have grown out of a long time ago.

you can vanquishing someone by merely by using forceful words. So from that point of view the name-calling and ad hominem make senses for them : As they are an attempt to discredit the speaker.

You've never been to Puerto Rico..... yet you know what you would see and Thear. There's no amount of facepalming or eye rolling that can do justice to just how ignorant that comment and assumption is. Do everyone a favor and actually do some traveling outside that 2-block radius around your home, before you continue spouting your ignorant, racist bullshit. Yes..... by the far the biggest racist in this entire forum is you, Denilson. We all know it.

But here is thing. You never said I was lying. You can run mouth all you want

The reality is that you are a loser in life, who has discovered that by crying "racism" across the board, regardless of the person, regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the context, regardless of who you are speaking to, regardless of anything on God's green Earth..... by crying "racism" regardless of all these things you can excuse your own failures in life and blame them on someone else. Any attempt to reason with you, and you turn it around and comically assign it to some obscure, convoluted conspiracy where everyone is reading from a script so we can all look good. You made up your mind a long time ago that you're on this "island" where there's White Supremacy all around you. Hell.... you even profess not to hate white people. You just know about their...... our system. Yes, because even though I'm Puerto Rican, I'm white. So yes..... I'm in on it.

But guess what. I've seen your ramblings, copied and pasted on other forums, where you go in...... dirty the waters..... and then pop back out for awhile. That alone crumbles any shred of credibility you may have thought you had. So I'm back to one of my original theories. You're either trolling....... and just having a good laugh because you're THAT bored........ or you're actually serious in which case you are one SAD individual.

My guess is you're in your 20's or 30's. No way a 40-year old can think like you and survive in this life. So based on that, good luck in the future.
Hopefully before you pass to that great "beyond"........... (damn, I forgot....... God is WHITE)........ never mind.

This is how you argue.

You say I'm a troll because your a troll.
You say I'm racist because your racist.
You say I ramble because your ramble

It's called 'projection.' When someone subconsciously realizes that a particular trait applies to them, they attempt to locate that trait in others, so as to alleviate the stigma or self-doubt engendered by the trait in question.

Your feeling offended by the same discussions you claim you wanted to have, and are getting entitled about discussions that yours theirs to feel entitled to. You realize your wrong, and then get defensive, because “white has to be right”.

That’s where the ad-hominems start kicking in. So you toss out a few insults "Your loser" etc and then claiming you won by insulting and derailing until the initial topic is too screwed up to continue with. It’s not even an argument because you stopped seeing it as such the minute you didn’t get the pedestal you wanted.

To use your vernacular......... The fk you know about black people in Puerto Rico being "reliant on whites for jobs, houses, etc" and all the ignorant bullshit you continue to spout?

Once again you never said I was lying.

P.S - Saying I'm liar now means nothing.

[El Kabong]

You say I don't use proper grammar because YOUR a proper grammar



LOL get the fuck outta here dude, nobody gives a shit what color you are behind your keyboard YOU'RE a retard

[walrus]

Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery etc and when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people. It is not productive. I’d like to know what big D thinks will help with the issue other than #whitegenocide. Sure I’m white so I don’t have the perspective of African Americans but I can’t imagine walking around with the hatred that my boy big D does. I still think he may be a fifty year old white guy wearing a dirty shirt, drinking beer as he sits in front of his computer having a piss on us. He probably goes to the pub once a month when he gets his welfare check and shows his other white buddies all of his posts as they laugh all night. If that is the case, it is quite funny. Big D takes a while to respond to these posts and responds in a prewritten speech type thing. I really think Big D is part of the club and is actually trying to make us all white supremacists, he already converted my boy tits and I think mikes is out shopping for a hood, cross and a few gallons of petrol

[TitoFan]

Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery etc and when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people. It is not productive. I’d like to know what big D thinks will help with the issue other than #whitegenocide. Sure I’m white so I don’t have the perspective of African Americans but I can’t imagine walking around with the hatred that my boy big D does. I still think he may be a fifty year old white guy wearing a dirty shirt, drinking beer as he sits in front of his computer having a piss on us. He probably goes to the pub once a month when he gets his welfare check and shows his other white buddies all of his posts as they laugh all night. If that is the case, it is quite funny. Big D takes a while to respond to these posts and responds in a prewritten speech type thing. I really think Big D is part of the club and is actually trying to make us all white supremacists, he already converted my boy tits and I think mikes is out shopping for a hood, cross and a few gallons of petrol

He may be white but at birth..... he was black. He's probably also from Portugal.

[TitoFan]

I'm pretty sure he's also highly trained.

[DenilsonTheReturn]

Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery. nd when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people

O. Yeah it's easy to say in 2018 "It was fked up bk then. But all good now" but guess what ? Even bk then in the 50s and 60's whites used to say "Well it was bad in the 20's. But ok now. That Martin Luther King is a trouble causer"

Second black people have to watch what they say around white people. Because black people (for the most part) are reliant on whites for jobs and houses etc.

Let some of your "African Americans" friends talk about racism and white people the way I do or when they are at home or around other black people. You'd RUN to human resources. So if a black person is in a workplace often they have to be either ass kissing, feminine, too smiley, non confrontational. That's why the relationship between blacks and whites is the most TACKY FAKE PATHETIC relationship on the planet.

Why ?

Because economic relationship between white and blacks is tacky. The criminal justice relationship is tacky. Everything is tacky. But both races have learned to engage is some tacky fake bullsh*t were everyone pretends like everything is ok.

Even outside of work most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. In these ways and others whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why the likes of @TitoFan laughably says

One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.

[Dia bando]

The dark streets of Liverpool running hot and cold water electricity to boot.
It's rough out there spoken by a guy who likes the fine things in life unless the last time I went to Liverpool it had turned into a shit hole in the last few months.😂

[walrus]

Big den den is a truly vile human. I’ve have worked with a number of African Americans who show some contempt towards what was done with civil rights and slavery. nd when I discuss the constitution they remind me it wasn’t a great document for everyone. I don’t argue that, it is true. I’m glad we have come a long way from that. Point being they don’t walk around with this useless hatred towards all white people

O. Yeah it's easy to say in 2018 "It was fked up bk then. But all good now" but guess what ? Even bk then in the 50s and 60's whites used to say "Well it was bad in the 20's. But ok now. That Martin Luther King is a trouble causer"

Second black people have to watch what they say around white people. Because black people (for the most part) are reliant on whites for jobs and houses etc.

Let some of your "African Americans" friends talk about racism and white people the way I do or when they are at home or around other black people. You'd RUN to human resources. So if a black person is in a workplace often they have to be either ass kissing, feminine, too smiley, non confrontational. That's why the relationship between blacks and whites is the most TACKY FAKE PATHETIC relationship on the planet.

Why ?

Because economic relationship between white and blacks is tacky. The criminal justice relationship is tacky. Everything is tacky. But both races have learned to engage is some tacky fake bullsh*t were everyone pretends like everything is ok.

Even outside of work most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. In these ways and others whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why the likes of @TitoFan laughably says

One thing I enjoy about living and having been raised in Puerto Rico is the lack of racial issues (or even separation) that you see in the States.

No big D I never said things were great now I said better. My point was you (although I think u r white) are not accomplishing anything with hatred and racism. Perhaps blacks do tone words down out of fear of HR at work but don’t think we have don’t do the same. We live in constant fear of the current climate. Any racial or gender comment taken out of context and being white I’m screwed. I never know what will offend anyone. If you do work, what do u say to white peoples? How do u deal with them. How about when you pay for something and a white guy is working the register? What if your landlord is white? How does someone with all this spite interact in person. Here you can talk all the shit you want but u also got live in there real world and thode white peeps r everywhere. Why isn’t @DenilsonTheReturn Big D answering this I’m really want to know how he deals with the white man in public