Haye-Valuev - Who wins? Fact.

..didn't vote. Couldn't find the who cares button.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Haye probably pulls this one off, but I think there will be some scary moments for him....like when Valuev first hits him in the back of the head and that WILL happen.

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So basically what you're saying is that you think David Haye is a world-class heavyweight boxer.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Haye probably pulls this one off, but I think there will be some scary moments for him....like when Valuev first hits him in the back of the head and that WILL happen.

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So basically what you're saying is that you think David Haye is a world-class heavyweight boxer.

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pretty sure he's not, he's probably just saying it given how much of a shitty fighter Valuev is

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Haye probably pulls this one off, but I think there will be some scary moments for him....like when Valuev first hits him in the back of the head and that WILL happen.

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So basically what you're saying is that you think David Haye is a world-class heavyweight boxer.

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pretty sure he's not, he's probably just saying it given how much of a shitty fighter Valuev is

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The fact is nobody will truly ever find out until the guy actually takes the sport seriously and gets in 2/3fights a year regularly rather than sunning it out in cyprus for 10months then coming back to the UK and telling us all how he is going to knock out someone he clearly has no intention of ever fighting.

Hayes got the talent, but he sure as hell aint got the hunger or desire it becomes to be a good/great champion!

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Am I alone in thinking that if Haye doesn't make easy work of Valuev he's pretty much exposed?

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Not really.

Even if Haye loses (without being done in 1 round or something humiliating) would you completely right him off against the likes of -

Adamek
Arreola
Povetkin

Haye vs these types of smaller guys would still be exciting unpredictable fights, no?

Hardly anyone gives him a chance against the Klits anyway. He'd have to KO Valuev in pretty spectacular fashion to make people think he is a serious threat to those two.

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No I wouldn't be opposed to seeing those fights, but he would be effectively written off as a world title challenger.

I mean look at Arreola, Sam Peter, Tony Thompson etc. Who cares two shits about them now? They just don't have it, they have been exposed. The gap between the Klitschko's and everyone else is just too vast.

Unless Haye dominates Valuev he will just go straight into the list with Peter, Arreola etc and a fight with the Klits would have zero interest to me.

Does anyone get excited about a Klitschko fight? They are so far ahead of the opposition we know exactly what will happen, just a slow, steady, cautious beatdown of their opponent.......

If Haye wants to make it look like he can change all that he can't afford to lose much more than a round to Valuev imo, who is possibly the worst world champ in any weight class.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Am I alone in thinking that if Haye doesn't make easy work of Valuev he's pretty much exposed?

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Not really.

Even if Haye loses (without being done in 1 round or something humiliating) would you completely right him off against the likes of -

Adamek
Arreola
Povetkin

Haye vs these types of smaller guys would still be exciting unpredictable fights, no?

Hardly anyone gives him a chance against the Klits anyway. He'd have to KO Valuev in pretty spectacular fashion to make people think he is a serious threat to those two.

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No I wouldn't be opposed to seeing those fights, but he would be effectively written off as a world title challenger.

I mean look at Arreola, Sam Peter, Tony Thompson etc. Who cares two shits about them now? They just don't have it, they have been exposed. The gap between the Klitschko's and everyone else is just too vast.

Unless Haye dominates Valuev he will just go straight into the list with Peter, Arreola etc and a fight with the Klits would have zero interest to me.

Does anyone get excited about a Klitschko fight? They are so far ahead of the opposition we know exactly what will happen, just a slow, steady, cautious beatdown of their opponent.......

If Haye wants to make it look like he can change all that he can't afford to lose much more than a round to Valuev imo, who is possibly the worst world champ in any weight class.

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The lack of interest with the klitschkos is due to several factors not just the fact they are miles ahead of the pack.

They arent exactly great on the eye ala:tyson, dont have a list of talented fighters to see off ala:lewis and refuse to fight eachother despite the clear fact they are indeed the best 2 fighters in boxings premiere division.

I refuse to vote. Because I don't/won't believe the fight is going to actually happen until after the final bell rings.


I've seen how these David Haye fight hype things work lately. Usually goes something like this...

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/bawkbawk.gif

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Can Haye KO him?

If Haye can't beat him from pillar to post for twelve rounds he'll probably get robbed on the cards. Haye has done 7 rounds in two years. If he can't KO him will he get the trip? :-\

I'd love to see Haye cause a minor earthquake by dumping that big lump through the canvas - which will obviously be one of the greatest sights in the history of boxing.

What happens?

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History does tend to repeat itself, and with all due respect to the giant Trogladite, I think it's due to happen again..
Much like Baer and Dempsey before him, I can see Haye chopping him down brutally, while Valuev staggers around like Taylos, the enormous Trojan warrior in Jason & the Argonaughts..

I wouldn't regard Haye's suspect chin as an issue in this fight, as I have never seen yet, one shred of evidence to suggest that Valuev is even remotely, a dangerous puncher..

I'll be very surprised, if this isn't, at long long last, 'The end of the Beast'

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

I refuse to vote. Because I don't/won't believe the fight is going to actually happen until after the final bell rings.


I've seen how these David Haye fight hype things work lately. Usually goes something like this...

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/bawkbawk.gif

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I second that;D

I dont believe the fight will happen till any bell rings, I think Haye is lucky to here the last to be honest;D

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

I refuse to vote. Because I don't/won't believe the fight is going to actually happen until after the final bell rings.


I've seen how these David Haye fight hype things work lately. Usually goes something like this...

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/bawkbawk.gif

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lol

for a moment there i thought i was watching froch-dirrell all over again;D

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

So basically what you're saying is that you think David Haye is a world-class heavyweight boxer.

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No, I just don't think Valuev is all that great, he certainly has avoided power punchers and if Haye's power carries up at all he SHOULD win, but his style sucks so bad he could lose vs even limited opposition.

70 PERCENT VOTE FOR HAYE?! Youv'e all lost your bloody minds! :o

I reckon Haye comes out full pelt in rounds 1 through to 3, then in round 4, blows a Sphincter Valve :rolleyes:

Holyfield beat Valuev (mainly because Nikolay was in awe of him) but still lost the fight. Evander is a God in Germany but they still robbed him. One thing for sure, Valuev isn't remotely in awe of David..

Now with that in mind how fairly do you think they will treat Haye (a man reviled in Germany for the comments he's made against the Klitschko brothers)?.

I have a feeling David will be on the losing end of a controversial decision caused maybe by his big old mouth...

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

So basically what you're saying is that you think David Haye is a world-class heavyweight boxer.

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No, I just don't think Valuev is all that great, he certainly has avoided power punchers and if Haye's power carries up at all he SHOULD win, but his style sucks so bad he could lose vs even limited opposition.

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You've been telling us for months now that Haye isn't worth a shot at the heavyweight title and should work his way through the heavyweight rankings but now you're claiming htat no, that's actually not the case and Haye can win a world heavyweight title in his third heavyweight fight. How is is possible to have these two different opinions at the same time, or have you just completely changed your mind about David Haye?

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

I refuse to vote. Because I don't/won't believe the fight is going to actually happen until after the final bell rings.


I've seen how these David Haye fight hype things work lately. Usually goes something like this...

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/bawkbawk.gif

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Ha ha...i'll quit being a baby and pick. Of course haye will win that big dooofus valuev really didn't even beat holyfield. Haye will knock his head off. But like i originally said....so what ?