Fury v Usyk is on.............!

Fury was messing about for the first 2 rounds and Usyk was doing the work to win them.

Fury got his success on his back foot using his jab, reach, foot work and speed from round 3 to 6 catching Usyk coming in and hurting him like I have never seen before.

Usyk hid being hurt really well and somehow came on strong and upped the gears to batter Fury like never before. How Fury survived I do not know.

Fury showed lack of class by saying Usyk only won because of the war in Ukraine.

Glad Usyk got the decision but I think they took a lot out of each other and may not have a lot left to give.

Rematch and retire.

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Fury was messing about for the first 2 rounds and Usyk was doing the work to win them.

Fury got his success on his back foot using his jab, reach, foot work and speed from round 3 to 6 catching Usyk coming in and hurting him like I have never seen before.

Usyk hid being hurt really well and somehow came on strong and upped the gears to batter Fury like never before. How Fury survived I do not know.

Fury showed lack of class by saying Usyk only won because of the war in Ukraine.

Glad Usyk got the decision but I think they took a lot out of each other and may not have a lot left to give.

Rematch and retire.

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I agree with that completely. He should not have been messing around those first two rounds and also from rounds 3 until 6 he really could have finished the Ukrainian and he did not and I don't know why. At a certain point the people next to me who are rooting for the Ukrainian the whole time said he's just too small and the guy is manhandling him and outclassing him and it started to get embarrassing in rounds four or five and six. I actually started feeling bad for the Ukrainian the way he was getting rocked it was almost like Foreman rocking Frazier sometimes one time he jumped up in the air like a little rabbit and he winced I think that's when the jaw broke I think it was the sixth round and he backed up straight into the ropes and wobbled and I thought that this fight is going to be over in about two more rounds if this continues

How Fury survived I do not know. Some people are saying the referee saved his ass

if you look at the way tyson fury throws his punches, and sebastian fundora has the same problem, that, since he's so tall, the target is always around his chest and waist. so if he throws anything more than a single punch, which he doesn't like to do a lot, he spends a lot of time with his chin up in the air and his hands dropped. it took usyk 6 or 7 rounds to figure out that the way to hit fury isnt when he's moving away and covering up, but when he opens up and punches and his chin goes up and his hands go down.

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Fury was messing about for the first 2 rounds and Usyk was doing the work to win them.

Fury got his success on his back foot using his jab, reach, foot work and speed from round 3 to 6 catching Usyk coming in and hurting him like I have never seen before.

Usyk hid being hurt really well and somehow came on strong and upped the gears to batter Fury like never before. How Fury survived I do not know.

Fury showed lack of class by saying Usyk only won because of the war in Ukraine.

Glad Usyk got the decision but I think they took a lot out of each other and may not have a lot left to give.

Rematch and retire.

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I agree with that completely. He should not have been messing around those first two rounds and also from rounds 3 until 6 he really could have finished the Ukrainian and he did not and I don't know why. At a certain point the people next to me who are rooting for the Ukrainian the whole time said he's just too small and the guy is manhandling him and outclassing him and it started to get embarrassing in rounds four or five and six. I actually started feeling bad for the Ukrainian the way he was getting rocked it was almost like Foreman rocking Frazier sometimes one time he jumped up in the air like a little rabbit and he winced I think that's when the jaw broke I think it was the sixth round and he backed up straight into the ropes and wobbled and I thought that this fight is going to be over in about two more rounds if this continues

How Fury survived I do not know. Some people are saying the referee saved his ass

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Turning on your Gypsy King. Apparently he wasn’t trying hard enough according to you. Wow! He must love having supporters like you. :rolleyes:

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if you look at the way tyson fury throws his punches, and sebastian fundora has the same problem, that, since he's so tall, the target is always around his chest and waist. so if he throws anything more than a single punch, which he doesn't like to do a lot, he spends a lot of time with his chin up in the air and his hands dropped. it took usyk 6 or 7 rounds to figure out that the way to hit fury isnt when he's moving away and covering up, but when he opens up and punches and his chin goes up and his hands go down.

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These are the official scorecards. Even the guy that gave the decision to Fury only had him up by 2 rounds by the 6th. You were calling it “a mismatch” after 6 ! Mismatch? Really? And despite it being a mismatch, you now think Fury wasn’t trying hard enough.
Fuck me , you couldn’t make this shit up. Correction, you could!

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Fury was messing about for the first 2 rounds and Usyk was doing the work to win them.

Fury got his success on his back foot using his jab, reach, foot work and speed from round 3 to 6 catching Usyk coming in and hurting him like I have never seen before.

Usyk hid being hurt really well and somehow came on strong and upped the gears to batter Fury like never before. How Fury survived I do not know.

Fury showed lack of class by saying Usyk only won because of the war in Ukraine.

Glad Usyk got the decision but I think they took a lot out of each other and may not have a lot left to give.

Rematch and retire.

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I agree with that completely. He should not have been messing around those first two rounds and also from rounds 3 until 6 he really could have finished the Ukrainian and he did not and I don't know why. At a certain point the people next to me who are rooting for the Ukrainian the whole time said he's just too small and the guy is manhandling him and outclassing him and it started to get embarrassing in rounds four or five and six. I actually started feeling bad for the Ukrainian the way he was getting rocked it was almost like Foreman rocking Frazier sometimes one time he jumped up in the air like a little rabbit and he winced I think that's when the jaw broke I think it was the sixth round and he backed up straight into the ropes and wobbled and I thought that this fight is going to be over in about two more rounds if this continues

How Fury survived I do not know. Some people are saying the referee saved his ass

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If Fury could have taken out Usyk in the 6th he would have. He tried as best as he could and when Usyk did not good he went back to pacing himself. It is not that easy to stop the Ukrainian.

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These are the official scorecards. Even the guy that gave the decision to Fury only had him up by 2 rounds by the 6th. You were calling it “a mismatch” after 6 ! Mismatch? Really? And despite it being a mismatch, you now think Fury wasn’t trying hard enough.
Fuck me , you couldn’t make this shit up. Correction, you could!

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my impression of the fight was fury lost all the early rounds since he wasn't punching and when he started punching it took usyk a little while to realize all he had to do was punch with him. heres what i mean about his chin being up and his hands being down when he punches.

https://i.imgur.com/70i79Bp.gif

in a rematch fury will lose if he doesn't throw enough punches but if he does throw enough punches that lets usyk punch with him and he'll keep getting the worst of that. so he either doesn't do enough and loses or he really goes for it and loses.

Fury abandoned his jab, didn't finish the hurt rabbit in the sixth, didn't throw 100 punches per round for the last couple of rounds LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE to try to even it up or win. fury blasted THE SHIT out of Usyk from Rds 3 to 7. Was a mismatch until then. Broke Usyk's spirit in the 6th, it really look like he was going to cry from those uppercuts and body shots. He looked like a defeated fighter.

From that point forward it was more a matter of Tyson Fury losing that fight through lack of effort than the Ukrainian winning the fight.

The fight should have been a draw.

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Fury abandoned his jab, didn't finish the hurt rabbit in the sixth, didn't throw 100 punches per round for the last couple of rounds LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE to try to even it up or win. fury blasted THE SHIT out of Usyk from Rds 3 to 7. Was a mismatch until then. Broke Usyk's spirit in the 6th, it really look like he was going to cry from those uppercuts and body shots. He looked like a defeated fighter.

From that point forward it was more a matter of Tyson Fury losing that fight through lack of effort than the Ukrainian winning the fight.

The fight should have been a draw.

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Surprised at those saying the fight should have been stopped in the 9th.

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No, ref did the right thing and gave a count. If there was more time Usyk could have finished him but there wasn't and Fury somehow recovered. Fury has amazing recuperative powers.

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the ref saved tyson. if he was ruling the ropes kept him up why didn't he do it about five seconds before when tyson was in the same position on the other ropes? then there's about an extra seven seconds after the eight count finishes & the ref lets the time run out. i have no doubt that if it was oleksandr in the same position the fight would have been stopped. oleksandr losing early rounds is nothing new. those claiming oleksandr was getting beat up & hurt are exaggerating. he was wobbled in the sixth but nowhere near going down. oleksandr's chin should be celerated. tyson had close to forty pounds on him if not more come fight time. tyson gave everything he had & it still wasn't enough. the fight wasn't close. i think i had it eight rounds to four with the knockdown. tyson felt oleksandr's power in the first & second round & knew he could be hurt. the reason he didn't push more was because he was afraid of getting caught & hurt as evenually happened. oleksandr's never been about the money, it's always been about legacy for him, that's why he accepted the seventy thirty split. tyson will probably avoid the rematch & try to make the aj fight instead, or he'll just implode. put the big lump on suicide watch. tyson was clearly beaten & should have been stopped in a fight that he had almost everything in his favour. i'm not sure how he shows his face in public again after getting clowned by a middleweight

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here's a good copy if you still need it
https://ok.ru/video/8139132045829

I haven't rewatched last nights fight, but I can't really see how you could have scored it for Fury. It was certainly close and I must give Fury much more credit than I did pre-fight. He turned up and despite his pre-fight BS made sure he was on his A-game all night. He had to be and he knew it.

The accolades for Fury's ability to survive do not paper over the cracks that have been exposed again and again and surely now nobody can deny that for a big man he is not the biggest hitter and nor is he the elusive ghost or defensive whizz he pretends to be. Trilogies with Wilder and Chisora make that abundantly clear.

The big man brought with him into the ring, echoes of Sullivan, Corbett and Mace. A flexibility and repertoire of fundamentals, tricks and combinations that makes all the bragging even more unnecessary. Fury's own over estimations and exaggerations seem to earn him a bit of short sightedness from pundits who forget to acknowledge the difficulty his not always brilliant opponents manage to negate in getting close enough to someone with such a huge reach advantage and clock him on the chin.

Usyk was the real summation though, of all that keeps fans watching the sometimes boringly predictable heavyweight title bouts, an always ready time bomb waiting to explode in the smallest of windows. He has absorbed so many of the styles that allowed previous heavyweights to etch their exploits onto the back pages, that he can sometimes utilise a handful of them in one round.

The idea that Usyk looked like a defeated fighter with his spirit broken at any point in the fight is laughable. Fury clearly hurt Usyk at points but the only really dominant one sided beat down happened before us all in round nine. In that momentous round Usyk showed his class, superior skills and ring-craft. He did everything but put a full stop on it and made Fury look like the smaller man. From that first big left ramming Fury's insults right back down his gobshite mouth, Usyk zipped up any escape routes and should be given way more credit for his finishing skills.

It wasn't that Fury was too tentative and failed to capitalize on his own successes. It was much more of a case that Usyk did not allow him the space or time to dictate things like he usually can. The mind games were pointless and Fury was not quick enough, mentally or physically to plot his own route to victory.

Great fight and one worthy of the undisputed title it bestowed upon the real champion. A man that conducted himself impeccably in the face of great ( and often classless) provocation. A calm Frazier to Fury's poor Ali impersonation, Usyk got his just reward for not letting the enormity of the opportunity distract him from the task in front of him.

i also want to thank oleksandr for showing that bridgerweight is a waste of time

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Watched it again and can't understand why Fury didn't TRY HARDER in rounds 4 5 and especially 6 when it honestly look like Usyk was taking too much punishment and his Spirit looked crushed and he was badly hurt several times by uppercuts and body shots. Fury s strategy was working very well up to that point and when he hit him with that uppercut in the sixth you can see that it broke something the way he winced and jumped back and wobbled. It definitely at that point was starting to look like a walk in the park and that Fury was just too big.

So again I just cannot understand why he did not jump on him. He did not jump on him at all take advantage of this. It was like he deliberately let him off the hook. And I think it's clear that if he had knocked the Ukrainian out cold in the sixth round that we would be saying there is no need at all for any rematch. So did he stupidly think it would carry him to a decision and play it safe and then make it look like there was a great reason for the rematch in the clause? At one point in the 6th and It really looked like it wouldn't go more than another two rounds the way it was going.

Very disappointing that Tyson Fury did not even try one little bit to finish the job when he had his man quite hurt especially in that sixth round. Very strange. As for the scoring, it was definitely fair but I could easily have seen this a draw.

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He got battered by a middleweight.

Beanz, that was a fantastic post. Great writing and great analysis and I could not agree more. He is not as elusive as we had thought or at least some of us had thought and of course he does not hit as hard as it looked like he hit after his big knockout over Wilder. And yes he did fight his ass off and he even surprise me in a lot of ways. The only thing that I don't quite 100% agree with is that I think he was lazy and did not take his opponent seriously enough and by the sixth round he thought it would be a walk in the park and that was his other mistake, his laziness and his overconfidence and his cheesy Muhammad Ali impersonation

I still think he could have done better to finish his opponent or throw more punches in the last 6 minutes but credit to the Alexander usyk for fighting a fantastic fight with such a huge size differential

Agree Fury thought he had him beaten in the middle round but Usyk way too smart and finds a way.

I did say months ago they were the two best boxing brains on the planet.

Take the last thirty seconds of round 9 out of the equation and you'd have trouble separating them - and it wouldn't have been as satisfying. Those thirty seconds ended the debate as to who should get the nod.

I'd love to see it again of course.

It was a pretty exciting fight with ebb and flow and they both hurt each other. I don't know about the injuries. One uppercut in the six round I thought he split his nose open. And one more punch in the 9th round he could have killed Fury who was helpless on the ropes with his eyes rolled up in fear because he was in a very compromising position for a clean left hand right on the jaw. I think he thought he was dead and I have never seen that kind of fear in his eye he could easily have been killed if one more flush left hand with full force landed on his jaw.

That was high drama and everything you would want in a prize fight. It seems that Tyson Fury gassed out and didn't have any legs left. Also why didn't he clinch? He tried to clinch but Alexander wriggled out of it. Furious always good at tying people up but he could not tie him up when he was hurt.

Even though he cracked him good for 6 rounds it was still disappointing that he did not try harder. It's easy for me to say sitting as a spectator drinking tamarind juice with seltzer water but still for somebody with such a big mouth you'd think that he would really try to finish the job in the sixth round and you would also think that in rounds 11 and 12 that he would go all out to try to keep his belt. I don't know why he didn't put more effort into it I just don't know why I guess he was totally out of energy and totally gassed. But he didn't do a lot of dancing during the fight and did a lot of backing up into the ropes so I don't know why he was so gassed

But his recovery powers are amazing and I think those three fights with Wilder definitely softened him up which is to be expected. There was a lot of hard punches in those three fights even if people think wilder's a club fighter he hits like a torpedo and he dropped Fury about four times so that was a lot of punishing headshots and maybe Tyson Fury now looks like an old man in that 9th round the way he was wobbling around really looked like an old man. He may have run his course and nobody can doubt his heart. Did I overrate him? No I don't think so. Do I write him higher than Lennox lewis? No I don't.

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It was a pretty exciting fight with ebb and flow and they both hurt each other. I don't know about the injuries. One uppercut in the six round I thought he split his nose open. And one more punch in the 9th round he could have killed Fury who was helpless on the ropes with his eyes rolled up in fear because he was in a very compromising position for a clean left hand right on the jaw. I think he thought he was dead and I have never seen that kind of fear in his eye he could easily have been killed if one more flush left hand with full force landed on his jaw.

That was high drama and everything you would want in a prize fight. It seems that Tyson Fury gassed out and didn't have any legs left. Also why didn't he clinch? He tried to clinch but Alexander wriggled out of it. Furious always good at tying people up but he could not tie him up when he was hurt.

Even though he cracked him good for 6 rounds it was still disappointing that he did not try harder. It's easy for me to say sitting as a spectator drinking tamarind juice with seltzer water but still for somebody with such a big mouth you'd think that he would really try to finish the job in the sixth round and you would also think that in rounds 11 and 12 that he would go all out to try to keep his belt. I don't know why he didn't put more effort into it I just don't know why I guess he was totally out of energy and totally gassed. But he didn't do a lot of dancing during the fight and did a lot of backing up into the ropes so I don't know why he was so gassed

But his recovery powers are amazing and I think those three fights with Wilder definitely softened him up which is to be expected. There was a lot of hard punches in those three fights even if people think wilder's a club fighter he hits like a torpedo and he dropped Fury about four times so that was a lot of punishing headshots and maybe Tyson Fury now looks like an old man in that 9th round the way he was wobbling around really looked like an old man. He may have run his course and nobody can doubt his heart. Did I overrate him? No I don't think so. Do I write him higher than Lennox lewis? No I don't.

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Fuck me, you were literally calling him the greatest HW that’s ever lived. Now , he’s demoted behind Lennox Lewis and fuck knows who else.
Dear oh dear oh dear.

Just seen a vid of the Fury corner between rounds. What a fucking shambles. Sugar Hill doesn’t stand a chance . What the fuck are they letting John Fury do ? Shooting his mouth off while Sugar Hill is trying to put his point over.
John Fury should be nowhere near the corner. Completely Ridiculous.
I’ll stop short of saying his Dad cost him the fight, because I think Usyk would’ve won whether big John was there or not. But he sure didn’t help.

Steve still trying to find ways to cope 😂
If Fury & yourself hadn't talked so much smack there wouldn't be so much embarrassment
Fury actually fought really well from rounds 4-7
Usyk's pressure & ability to adapt coupled with his gas tank was just too much
All the talk about Usyk getting beaten up are hyperbole :vd:
The only fighter at risk of getting KTFO was Fury ;)
Fury got himself in his best condition in years & threw everything he had at Usyk
Unfortunately it wasn't enough
I don't think Fury has it in him to ever get back in the ring again in that condition
So I see him looking for easier tasks or chasing the biggest money
He might talk about fighting Usyk again but I think deep down he doesn't want that smoke ever again
Fury's last 2 fights have really damaged his image
Usyk has shown that some of the 6'3 heavyweights from the past would have done well against this era's Super-Heavies
All this talk about them being too big is just simply that... talk :cool:

Just wanted to add. In a time when 'The best don't fight the best, not like the good old days' Which is utter bollocks. Usyk has cleaned house in two divisions. In 22 fights!! If you're good enough, it happens.

Also. Of all the Brits. I still think Chisora might have come closest to beating Usyk ;D

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If you're good enough, it happens.

Also. Of all the Brits. I still think Chisora might have come closest to beating Usyk ;D

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being good enough is not enough, the fighter's have to want it as well. the derek fight wasn't close. i just watched again recently & had oleksandr ahead by six points. the only one who's run oleksandr close is mairis

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Steve still trying to find ways to cope 😂
If Fury & yourself hadn't talked so much smack there wouldn't be so much embarrassment
Fury actually fought really well from rounds 4-7
Usyk's pressure & ability to adapt coupled with his gas tank was just too much
All the talk about Usyk getting beaten up are hyperbole :vd:
The only fighter at risk of getting KTFO was Fury ;)
Fury got himself in his best condition in years & threw everything he had at Usyk
Unfortunately it wasn't enough
I don't think Fury has it in him to ever get back in the ring again in that condition
So I see him looking for easier tasks or chasing the biggest money
He might talk about fighting Usyk again but I think deep down he doesn't want that smoke ever again
Fury's last 2 fights have really damaged his image
Usyk has shown that some of the 6'3 heavyweights from the past would have done well against this era's Super-Heavies
All this talk about them being too big is just simply that... talk :cool:

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Usyk is an all time great. Usyk had to push ref out of the way in 9th round. Ref was trying to aid Fury

Tyson Fury has indicated that he will trigger the rematch clause in the contract for October. It remains to be seen whether he sticks to his words. He took a shellacking and you wonder if you would like some more of it. If the guy fights differently he can easily win the fight. He was easily winning by the 7th round it looked like a cakewalk. He was really cracking him and you could see the ukrainian start to crumble. A few more of those uppercuts and body shots and that would have been it.

Why Tyson Fury clowned around so much and backed up to the ropes imitating Muhammad Ali and taking unnecessary punches instead of staying in the center of the Ring and popping that ramrod jab into his face, is a mystery. Probably he was conserving energy. Fighting at that fast pace for a 6'9 270 lb behemoth will certainly run his battery down.

Next time he should fight more aggressively and I think he'll get him out of there in eight rounds. He just has to do the same thing he was doing for the first six rounds and the fight won't last 9. He has to go right at him and bomb him out.

The way he staggered back to the ropes in the 9th round reminded me of the way Muhammad Ali stack it back to the ropes against Fraser and shavers. It was almost choreographed. I don't know why he wanted to fight backing up. He's so huge he should have stood his ground.

Let's see if the rematch happens. The fight is definitely worthy of a rematch. It was a very exciting fight. We got what we wanted. A great prize fight. Two great fighters. One fought under his potential and the other one fought at his potential. If the one who fought under his potential fights at his potential next time, then Fury wins the fight

definitely worth a rematch if he can raise himself - a big if for me.

Last thirty seconds of 9th aside you could have called it either way so why the hell not.

I can see a way he can win the rematch with a few changes - first of all get rid of his dad from the camp

These were the official cards and all 3 judges had it close.

One had it 7-5 Usyk, other 7-5 Fury and third 6-6 draw but with knock down Usyk got decision.

Fury was winning the first half of the fight 4-2 rounds.

Usyk won 4 rounds unanimously 1st, 8, 9, and 10.

Fury won 4 rounds unanimously 5, 6, 7, and 12.

Round 2,3,4 and 11 were split by judges.

https://static.independent.co.uk/202...=640&auto=webp

It was close. The right man got the nod. We'd love to see a rematch.

For me when a fight is that close yet one fighter has been in serious trouble the other guy should be the winner.

When the bell rang I knew Fury hadn't won but wasn't sure usyk had.

I also felt like that Benn Eubank 2 and fury wilder 1.

I gave Fury rounds 3 4 5 6 7 and 12 and I called the second round even. That's 114 points.

I gave usyk rounds one 8 9 10 11, that is also 114 points, A DRAW.

A draw it should have been. And nobody's talking about this. Why couldn't you syk finish Tyson when the bell rang for the 10th round? If he was so destroyed that he only had 60 seconds to recover, so why didn't u syk finished the job at the beginning of the 10th round? I guess he's not that good of a finisher like people think.

I did think usyk would come out and finish fury off in the tenth but this is fury and we know his powers of recovery.

Then again I also thought fury would impose himself on usyk from the outset so what do I know....

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I gave Fury rounds 3 4 5 6 7 and 12 and I called the second round even. That's 114 points.

I gave usyk rounds one 8 9 10 11, that is also 114 points, A DRAW.

A draw it should have been. And nobody's talking about this. Why couldn't you syk finish Tyson when the bell rang for the 10th round? If he was so destroyed that he only had 60 seconds to recover, so why didn't u syk finished the job at the beginning of the 10th round? I guess he's not that good of a finisher like people think.

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What did you round 1 and 2?

If you gave Usyk those rounds he wins because of the 10=8 round in 9

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I gave Fury rounds 3 4 5 6 7 and 12 and I called the second round even. That's 114 points.

I gave usyk rounds one 8 9 10 11, that is also 114 points, A DRAW.

A draw it should have been. And nobody's talking about this. Why couldn't you syk finish Tyson when the bell rang for the 10th round? If he was so destroyed that he only had 60 seconds to recover, so why didn't u syk finished the job at the beginning of the 10th round? I guess he's not that good of a finisher like people think.

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What did you round 1 and 2?

If you gave Usyk those rounds he wins because of the 10=8 round in 9

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I gave u syk round one and I also gave him 10 points for round two because I scored round two even 10 to 10

https://youtu.be/2rmPTkWcv_M?si=CFqzlcYqP4N6Py7X

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I gave Fury rounds 3 4 5 6 7 and 12 and I called the second round even. That's 114 points.

I gave usyk rounds one 8 9 10 11, that is also 114 points, A DRAW.

A draw it should have been. And nobody's talking about this. Why couldn't you syk finish Tyson when the bell rang for the 10th round? If he was so destroyed that he only had 60 seconds to recover, so why didn't u syk finished the job at the beginning of the 10th round? I guess he's not that good of a finisher like people think.

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Well obviously you scored it wrong??

Just rewatched it and tried to be a touch more open minded to Fury. I made it 115-113 to Usyk. But I gave Fury the 12th and made the 2nd a 10-10 round. On another day , I could give both those rounds to Usyk.
That is as good as I can possibly get it for Fury. No way did he win (or draw) the fight.

Totally agree with that score. I also could make a case for fury being ahead in the ninth till the last thirty seconds. So a three point swing. That's what it all came down to. I can see all arguments like you get with scoring.

Anyway the right man won and I don't think anyone
but fury has disagreed with that.

Finally able to do a proper watch and it was very much the entertaining ebb and flow scrap talked about. Big picture I ended up at 115-112 Usyk when all was said and done. Some random things that stuck out were how bothered Tyson was early on specifically with the 1st round shot to the nose. Not sure if/when a break occurred but it was clear it was a problem. Also how Usyk was corking the left and was his key punch from beginning to end. He almost turns the punch sideways like a chop and puts some stiff on it. Also surprised me how consciously Fury conceded ring space and tried/ was forced to ropes or corner. After six rounds I had it all even up with Fury coming to life and notching a straight run of 5,6,7 and having Usyk in a bad way with the whipping right upper to body. He was fluid and looked to be on his way. But the left of Usyk was ever present and had him taking a run of 8,9,10,11 with the ninth being a nightmare for Fury. He was rebounding off the ropes wobbled like a prime wwf wrestler ;D and could have very well been counted more than once that round as ropes held him up. Initially the ref took a lot of stick but having a full look at the ruled KD, his hands were pretty tied in the instant. Had he called the fight the outrage would have been deafening in the aftermath. Not to say Fury wasn't concussed and out on his feet but if we give merit to the scale and magnitude of the match it would have been messy and taken from the ultimate moment. But also by ruling the KD he called off Usyk from a likely follow up and tko. Fury was bent and slumped and wide open. It's a very ambiguous rule, the ropes holding a fighter up and another case by case that a ref has to make in the split second. Going way back I guess this is why I see some cases for the standing 8 count still being used. But anyway. Thought Fury did well to steady and press back in the final round taking that one. All in all an outstanding contest and wherever you fall in fandom the mutual respect at end was long overdue. Have to admit I was convinced they would rob Usyk and while 1 judge tried ;D looking at the fight on whole Usyk for me was a clear winner, though arguably tightly well contested. Judges got it right and sets up a rematch perfectly regardless of what happens with the ibf strap being vacated or even stripped. On aside and a random complaint I came away with...can we not have 1001 people rush the ring ffs. I don't think I've ever seen a ring THAT packed corner to corner in an immediate aftermath. In was bonkers ! and honestly took away just a bit from the center focus...literally...being on the two championship fighters who just went thru it. And I really need less of this Turki worship being honest. Having his own intro pre fight, post fight and ring center putting the t shirts of sanctioning bodies on Usyk and handing belts out. Wtf is that?! I get it the powerbroker $$ host and all but no ring should be that crowded and overshadowed. Again, it's about the fighters. Great fight!

oleksandr rung tyson bell so hard he was wishing everyone happy new year. turki released the fight on youtibe for anyone wanting to rewatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrFK01V4bkI

They are saying Tyson broke his nose in the 7th round and was bothered by it.

Do not know if Usyk did have a broken jaw.

I noticed something bothering him on a rewatch. Assumed just blood as he kept wiping it. Was around the time he lost his rhythm.

Actually watched extended highlights again earlier. You can see why these two guys are seen as the best in the division.

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Originally Posted by Big J

Steve still trying to find ways to cope 😂
If Fury & yourself hadn't talked so much smack there wouldn't be so much embarrassment
Fury actually fought really well from rounds 4-7
Usyk's pressure & ability to adapt coupled with his gas tank was just too much
All the talk about Usyk getting beaten up are hyperbole :vd:
The only fighter at risk of getting KTFO was Fury ;)
Fury got himself in his best condition in years & threw everything he had at Usyk
Unfortunately it wasn't enough
I don't think Fury has it in him to ever get back in the ring again in that condition
So I see him looking for easier tasks or chasing the biggest money
He might talk about fighting Usyk again but I think deep down he doesn't want that smoke ever again
Fury's last 2 fights have really damaged his image
Usyk has shown that some of the 6'3 heavyweights from the past would have done well against this era's Super-Heavies
All this talk about them being too big is just simply that... talk :cool:

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Well done for not hiding away after being so wrong :lickish:
Like Elsa says "Let it Go" "Let it go" ;D
Fury was humbled & his fans excuses are almost as bad as Wilders were :-X