All we need is for Cintron to beat Kermit in the rematch... and we'll have the Puerto Rican trifecta at welterweight. Cotto-Quintana-Cintron. Yeah baby!
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All we need is for Cintron to beat Kermit in the rematch... and we'll have the Puerto Rican trifecta at welterweight. Cotto-Quintana-Cintron. Yeah baby!
awww shit, didn't realize the fight was that delayed on my network... I just finished watching rd 7... Fucking Nascar. Hell of a fight though, I'm not surprised Quintana ends up winning, gunna log off and watch the rest very intently now.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Cintron-Quintana seems mildly interesting right now.
Hey my friend, estoy pasando esta jodienda a secas por la cuaresma!!!! As you said we just need Cintron to beat Margarito. I will be drinking by that date. The perfect end will be a fight between Cotto and Floyd.
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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch
Hey, you bet!! Looks like we could own the WW division with a little help from Cintron in the Margarito rematch. I'll be rooting for Kermit all the way! As for Cotto-Floyd, I'm hopeful that will happen sometime this year, but definitely no later than early 2009.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Cintron is Kermit.
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Holy crap! Well... at least you were paying attention (LOL). Correction: I hope Cintron beats Margarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
It appears Tony is going to be the ONLY fighter standing in the way of a PR domination of 147 and it's time for te sig bets to come out with my PR brothers. Tony beats Cotto,Quintana and Kermit imo.Not easily at all,but he does win.He's the only one standing in their way now.:D:D;D
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
so kermit cintron is going to have to beat himself in the rematch? is this like how tyler durden beats himself up in Fight Club? lol;D
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
none of those titles mean domination except cotto's...because floyd is the real champ at welter
JRMAYWEATHER,those titles mean more to me for the fact that the belt holders are willing to actually I don't know,DEFEND their titles.At least TRY to UNIFY.:D
Yeah that must be why Cotto is facing Gomez instead of rematching Mosley or fighting Williams or Margarito in the first place. He could have had Margarito before Margarito signed on to fight Cintron. Anyways Mayweather will derail any PR out there... I see Cintron now being his biggest threat, but Cintron is like Judah in that he is very hot and cold, however he has a good chin, he hits harder than anyone in the division if not in boxing, and he seems have great boxing skills when he uses them, in other fights like against Margarito he shows a bit of Tyson in that when he couldn't hurt Margarito he got scared. Anyways I see Cotto being realistically the man who will fight Floyd, and his footspeed will be his downfall.
margarito beats cintron again
...let's put this in perspectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ 147
Sharmba Mitchell TKO 6
Zab Judah UD
Carlos Baldomir UD
Ricky Hatton TKO 10
Miguel Cotto @ 147
Carlos Quintana TKO 5
Oktay Urkal TKO 11
Zab Judah TKO 11
Shane Mosley UD
I would say Miguel has fought the better competition and beaten them more soundly at welterweight.
floyd beat both true WW champs...following the lineage from back to delahoya-mosley 1...baldo took all the belts from judah you know the rest.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Not to take anything away from Floyd, 'cause he's a fantastic champ. But Lyle has a good point. Their common opponent at 147: Judah. Floyd UD'ed him.... Cotto KO'ed him. Hatton? We all know Hatton does not belong at 147. Whereas Mosley's a full-blown 147-pounder, who has fought at higher weights. So all in all... I'd give the edge in competition to Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Not to take anything away from Floyd, 'cause he's a great champion. But Lyle has a good point. Comparing their common opponent at 147: Judah. Floyd UD'ed him... Cotto KO'ed him. Hatton? We all know he does not belong at 147. Whereas Mosley is a full-blown 147-pounder who has fought successfully at higher weights. So all in all, I'd give the competition edge to Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
That comparison's a little misleading, isn't it? Considering that Floyd was pounding Zab mercilessly until he got strafed square in the groin, upon which he went into cruise control. On the other hand, Zab was doing pretty well against Miguel until Cotto went low.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
As for Mosley, Floyd beat Oscar at light-middle, fighting essentially as a welterweight, giving up about 15 pounds in the ring. Oscar's also two years younger than Shane. That's a toss-up in terms of difficulty, possibly edge to Floyd, as far as I'm concerned.
Cotto's been impressive against good opposition and deserves to be the #1 contender, but Floyd has earned his place, IMO.
Who’s to know what would’ve happened if Judah hadn’t aimed for Floyd’s nuts, followed by the blatant rabbit punch, and the riot that ensued. Maybe Floyd would’ve KO’ed Judah… who knows? On the other hand, low blows or not, Judah’s fate at the hands of Cotto was going to be the same no matter what. We don’t know that either. As for comparing Floyd-Oscar with Cotto-Shane… that’s where we differ. I thought Cotto’s hard-fought victory over a “younger-than-his-age” Mosley was 10 times more impressive than Floyd’s chess match victory over the overly cautious Oscar. But what the hell… that’s why they’re opinions.
Cotto hammered Judah throughout that fight I mean yeah Miguel got caught a couple times but it didn't affect the outcome. The low blows were unfortunant HOWEVER Judah had more time to use and he didn't use it to recover. Cotto is a rough and tough fighter he'd do that to anyone.
Floyd BARELY beat Oscar De la Hoya...and I would LOVE to see De la Hoya-Cotto right now to spurn on a PBF-Cotto match....I think Miguel is a better boxer than people give him credit for. Sure he gets credit for being a hard puncher and a brawler but vs Mosley he boxed pretty well in the later rounds, the same vs Abdullaev at 140 which is when I thought he did his best pure boxing.
Cotto's win over Mosley is his signature win right now...I have no idea what Floyd's signature win is....simply because he hasn't beaten someone THAT GOOD, THAT DECISIVELY....Hatton was out of his league at 147 and everyone should have known that after the Collazo fight
Good rep your way. Good postQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
while cotto has made a fan out of me, beating judah after baldo and floyd beat him easily is just like giving delahoya credit for beating mayorga and vargas after tito ruined them....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
urkal is a more than solid contender but i give the edge to baldomir seeing as how he was the WW champ....
so cotto beat shane and quintana
pbf beat baldomir and oscar
that's about the same to me and their competition at WW has nothing to do with who dominates the division..floyd's the real champ cotto's the legimate contender nothing more nothing less
all the rest...quintana,cintron,margarito,clottey,berto,ju dah,collazo...all them while solid fighters aren't going to be great..cotto win or lose to floyd will be ..their little belts don't matter....esp seeing as how cotto already destroyed quntana....
and for me since these guys have never fought i use the beat the man philosophy until they do...
cintron and clottey<maragarito<williams<quintana}cotto
collazo< mosley} "
judah<balmomir<}mayweather
collazo< hatton<
so there you have it...mayweather and cotto the cream of the crop the rest are all just good plus great shane mosley entertaining fighters that are looking for a shot at the best two guys...
The only Card you got on Floyd is that he beat Baldo. Baldo beat Judah like Floyd but te only one that made significant damage to Judah was Cotto Actually. While on points Floyd and Baldo where close fight in both.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Do you actually think that Baldo could have beat Cotto?:p
thing is hatton is a better boxer than people give him credit for, oscar is a fantastic boxer neither of them ever stood a chance of outboxing the ultimate boxer so imo even if cotto is a better boxert than people give him credit for this doesnt change much. i think floyd v cotto goes alot like floyd and hatton.
btw anyone who has watched hatton floyd a few times through the first 6 rounds i thought it was fairly even as did sky and hbo so if hatton fought mayweather when he fought kostya could he have won?