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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo View Post
    It appears Tony is going to be the ONLY fighter standing in the way of a PR dominiaton of 147 and it's time for te sig bets to come out with my PR brothers. Tony beats Cotto,Quintana and Kermit imo.Not easily at all,but he does win.He's the only one standing in their way now.


    none of those titles mean domination except cotto's...because floyd is the real champ at welter
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    JRMAYWEATHER,those titles mean more to me for the fact that the belt holders are willing to actually I don't know,DEFEND their titles.At least TRY to UNIFY.

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    Yeah that must be why Cotto is facing Gomez instead of rematching Mosley or fighting Williams or Margarito in the first place. He could have had Margarito before Margarito signed on to fight Cintron. Anyways Mayweather will derail any PR out there... I see Cintron now being his biggest threat, but Cintron is like Judah in that he is very hot and cold, however he has a good chin, he hits harder than anyone in the division if not in boxing, and he seems have great boxing skills when he uses them, in other fights like against Margarito he shows a bit of Tyson in that when he couldn't hurt Margarito he got scared. Anyways I see Cotto being realistically the man who will fight Floyd, and his footspeed will be his downfall.

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    margarito beats cintron again

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    none of those titles mean domination except cotto's...because floyd is the real champ at welter
    ...let's put this in perspective

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ 147
    Sharmba Mitchell TKO 6
    Zab Judah UD
    Carlos Baldomir UD
    Ricky Hatton TKO 10

    Miguel Cotto @ 147
    Carlos Quintana TKO 5
    Oktay Urkal TKO 11
    Zab Judah TKO 11
    Shane Mosley UD

    I would say Miguel has fought the better competition and beaten them more soundly at welterweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ...let's put this in perspective

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ 147
    Sharmba Mitchell TKO 6
    Zab Judah UD
    Carlos Baldomir UD
    Ricky Hatton TKO 10

    Miguel Cotto @ 147
    Carlos Quintana TKO 5
    Oktay Urkal TKO 11
    Zab Judah TKO 11
    Shane Mosley UD

    I would say Miguel has fought the better competition and beaten them more soundly at welterweight.
    floyd beat both true WW champs...following the lineage from back to delahoya-mosley 1...baldo took all the belts from judah you know the rest.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    floyd beat both true WW champs...following the lineage from back to delahoya-mosley 1...baldo took all the belts from judah you know the rest.....
    Not to take anything away from Floyd, 'cause he's a fantastic champ. But Lyle has a good point. Their common opponent at 147: Judah. Floyd UD'ed him.... Cotto KO'ed him. Hatton? We all know Hatton does not belong at 147. Whereas Mosley's a full-blown 147-pounder, who has fought at higher weights. So all in all... I'd give the edge in competition to Cotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    floyd beat both true WW champs...following the lineage from back to delahoya-mosley 1...baldo took all the belts from judah you know the rest.....
    Not to take anything away from Floyd, 'cause he's a great champion. But Lyle has a good point. Comparing their common opponent at 147: Judah. Floyd UD'ed him... Cotto KO'ed him. Hatton? We all know he does not belong at 147. Whereas Mosley is a full-blown 147-pounder who has fought successfully at higher weights. So all in all, I'd give the competition edge to Cotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Not to take anything away from Floyd, 'cause he's a great champion. But Lyle has a good point. Comparing their common opponent at 147: Judah. Floyd UD'ed him... Cotto KO'ed him. Hatton? We all know he does not belong at 147. Whereas Mosley is a full-blown 147-pounder who has fought successfully at higher weights. So all in all, I'd give the competition edge to Cotto.
    That comparison's a little misleading, isn't it? Considering that Floyd was pounding Zab mercilessly until he got strafed square in the groin, upon which he went into cruise control. On the other hand, Zab was doing pretty well against Miguel until Cotto went low.

    As for Mosley, Floyd beat Oscar at light-middle, fighting essentially as a welterweight, giving up about 15 pounds in the ring. Oscar's also two years younger than Shane. That's a toss-up in terms of difficulty, possibly edge to Floyd, as far as I'm concerned.

    Cotto's been impressive against good opposition and deserves to be the #1 contender, but Floyd has earned his place, IMO.

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    Who’s to know what would’ve happened if Judah hadn’t aimed for Floyd’s nuts, followed by the blatant rabbit punch, and the riot that ensued. Maybe Floyd would’ve KO’ed Judah… who knows? On the other hand, low blows or not, Judah’s fate at the hands of Cotto was going to be the same no matter what. We don’t know that either. As for comparing Floyd-Oscar with Cotto-Shane… that’s where we differ. I thought Cotto’s hard-fought victory over a “younger-than-his-age” Mosley was 10 times more impressive than Floyd’s chess match victory over the overly cautious Oscar. But what the hell… that’s why they’re opinions.

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    Cotto hammered Judah throughout that fight I mean yeah Miguel got caught a couple times but it didn't affect the outcome. The low blows were unfortunant HOWEVER Judah had more time to use and he didn't use it to recover. Cotto is a rough and tough fighter he'd do that to anyone.

    Floyd BARELY beat Oscar De la Hoya...and I would LOVE to see De la Hoya-Cotto right now to spurn on a PBF-Cotto match....I think Miguel is a better boxer than people give him credit for. Sure he gets credit for being a hard puncher and a brawler but vs Mosley he boxed pretty well in the later rounds, the same vs Abdullaev at 140 which is when I thought he did his best pure boxing.

    Cotto's win over Mosley is his signature win right now...I have no idea what Floyd's signature win is....simply because he hasn't beaten someone THAT GOOD, THAT DECISIVELY....Hatton was out of his league at 147 and everyone should have known that after the Collazo fight

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