bernard Hopkins is an overated bum & CALZAGHES gonna knock him out

You shouldda retired years ago bernard you bum.

Joes gonna beat you blue and knock your sorry self out.

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

You shouldda retired years ago bernard you bum.

Joes gonna beat you blue and knock your sorry self out.

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Seanie I know your passionate about stuff, and I should put out that I'm not a Hopkins fan and I don't think he'll win, but calling someone who has achieved what Hopkins as 'a bum' is wrong and shows a lack of knowledge for what you're talking about, so you're getting some bad rep from me.

Maybe if Joe had grown a pair a couple of years back we wouldn't be thinking Hopkins is past his best and maybe Calzaghe can beat him.

if hopkins is a bum that means calzaghe is fighting yet another bum ?

a fighter who has achieved what hopkins has cannot be a bum.

i do agree on one of the things you said though, i feel he should of stayed retired after the tarver fight

by the way bad rep for a stupid post

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

Seanie I know your passionate about stuff, and I should put out that I'm not a Hopkins fan and I don't think he'll win, but calling someone who has achieved what Hopkins as 'a bum' is wrong and shows a lack of knowledge for what you're talking about, so you're getting some bad rep from me.

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I dont rate hopkins at all. He beat fat welterweights and lost twice to pitty patty Taylor and weve all seen how bad taylor really was.

Hopkins could have boxed CALZAGHE years ago but bottled it.

All this fight is is one last payday for Hopkins retirement.

Joe will destroy him.

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

I dont rate hopkins at all. He beat fat welterweights and lost twice to pitty patty Taylor and weve all seen how bad taylor really was.

Hopkins could have boxed CALZAGHE years ago but bottled it.

All this fight is is one last payday for Hopkins retirement.

Joe will destroy him.

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the taylor decisions were two close fights that could of gone either way, ( i felt hopkins won the second fight). the fat welterweights you were talking about i'm guessing is tito and de la hoya, i'm sure at the time they couldn't make 147 anymore so them being natural welters is wrong.

another thing you should never count hopkins out ever

Its funny you can't bad rep people because you have 0 power your rep is that bad...about sums up your opinion there dosn't it.

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

He beat fat welterweights and lost twice to pitty patty Taylor and weve all seen how bad taylor really was.

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I don't see how Taylor is pitty patty or how you can say how bad he was or is. Calzaghe does not strike me as a Thomas Hearns either when it comes to punching power, but he has proved that punching power does not matter.

I think Taylor fought his heart out in his last two fights and lost them, but gave a good account of himself in both. Does that make him a bum also?

I think Hopkins will lose to Joe, but I also think he will give a good account of himself even though his best days are behind him. He is very smart and what he lacks in youth, he will make up in experience.

Picking a fights one thing,all well and good. But Seanie,thats just f!!!ng short sighted.

Bernard is definately not a bum bro, look at what hes done. Now Joe may beat hopkins but I'm pretty damn sure he isn't going to knock him out, even at the ripe old age of forty something hopkins has to much experience.

Seanie are you that Irish pillock from Big Brother? He was 'wacky' was well.

"Old Slapper Joe" won't be KO'ing anybody, he'll win on points ;)

WHAT'S GANNIN ON!,,,Hopkins IS NOT RATED??There bold words to say about a legend like him.Mind you im a Calzaghe fan through "n" through,but i just cant see him knocking out Hopkins like!I just feel that Joe has'nt got the punch power to do so.I mean when was the last time Calzaghe sent someone to the canvas?It's been a while has'nt it?He'll beat Hopkins to the punch i reckon so thats why i've come to the conclusion that he'll win by points.GO ON JOE!!;)

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

You shouldda retired years ago bernard you bum.

Joes gonna beat you blue and knock your sorry self out.

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WHY IS IT THAT ALL THE IDIOTS IN THIS FORUM HAVE NO REPS /NO PICTURE OF THEMSELVES / NO PROFILE / DONT QUOTE THEIR DATE OF BIRTH ??????

If you think Hopkins is a bum then why is Calzaghe fighting him ?
And Tarver and Winky who Hopkins defeated are both better than anything Calzaghe has even fought !!!
YOUR EITHER A KID OR A JERK .

WHO AGREES WITH ME ???

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

WHY IS IT THAT ALL THE IDIOTS IN THIS FORUM HAVE NO REPS /NO PICTURE OF THEMSELVES / NO PROFILE / DONT QUOTE THEIR DATE OF BIRTH ??????

If you think Hopkins is a bum then why is Calzaghe fighting him ?
And Tarver and Winky who Hopkins defeated are both better than anything Calzaghe has even fought !!!
YOUR EITHER A KID OR A JERK .

WHO AGREES WITH ME ???

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He's probably just trying to get some feathers all ravelled up & doesn't know who Hopkins is

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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4

He's probably just trying to get some feathers all ravelled up & doesn't know who Hopkins is

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LOL
nice one dude

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

WHY IS IT THAT ALL THE IDIOTS IN THIS FORUM HAVE NO REPS /NO PICTURE OF THEMSELVES / NO PROFILE / DONT QUOTE THEIR DATE OF BIRTH ??????

If you think Hopkins is a bum then why is Calzaghe fighting him ?
And Tarver and Winky who Hopkins defeated are both better than anything Calzaghe has even fought !!!
YOUR EITHER A KID OR A JERK .

WHO AGREES WITH ME ???

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Damn a bit harsh don't ya think ?

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

Damn a bit harsh don't ya think ?

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#YOU DONT THINK HES AN IDIOT FOR SAYING HOPKINS IS A BUM ???

It's just pre fight excitment, i don't think anyone really thinks b-hop is a bum. He's accomplished a lot more than most in boxing than most so if he's a bum then these other guys that he's beaten and haven't done as much must be....anyhow i've picked against hopkins and thought he was over the hill for years now and he keeps proving me wrong, i can see joe looking like a very easy choice in this fight by most, but hopkins is no easy win for anyone.

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Originally Posted by Mar

It's just pre fight excitment, i don't think anyone really thinks b-hop is a bum. He's accomplished a lot more than most in boxing than most so if he's a bum then these other guys that he's beaten and haven't done as much must be....anyhow i've picked against hopkins and thought he was over the hill for years now and he keeps proving me wrong, i can see joe looking like a very easy choice in this fight by most, but hopkins is no easy win for anyone.

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EXPLAIN WOT HE MENT THEN WHEN HIS POST READS " HOPKINS IS AN OVER RATED BUM "

SO YOU READ SOMETHING ELSE INTO THIS STATEMENT ????

SEANIE you lost all credibility with the thread title alone, I didnt even bother to read your post, nice try though....

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

You shouldda retired years ago bernard you bum.

Joes gonna beat you blue and knock your sorry self out.

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Yeah he's a bum....The loser barely MW champion for 11 years...With a sorry 20 defenses and then runs away to the LHW division to become it's Ring Champion....I can't understand why the commision even lets him in the ring....I bet he wishes he had a Myspace page called Street Punk Drunks....

Seanie I think you have been victim of :knock_out: one too many times and your not thinking straight.....

Though it doesn't matter I sent you some bad rep just for the sheer purpose of it....I think you are the first member with a minus 1500:o

Didn't Seanie come up with the Duddy KO 5 Pavlik gem?

So either an idiot or just a wind up type. Maybe a bit of both.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

WHY IS IT THAT ALL THE IDIOTS IN THIS FORUM HAVE NO REPS /NO PICTURE OF THEMSELVES / NO PROFILE / DONT QUOTE THEIR DATE OF BIRTH ??????

If you think Hopkins is a bum then why is Calzaghe fighting him ?
And Tarver and Winky who Hopkins defeated are both better than anything Calzaghe has even fought !!!
YOUR EITHER A KID OR A JERK .

WHO AGREES WITH ME ???

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I agree with you. But it doesn't really matter. That kid won't be around after Hopkins beats Calzaghe's ass. He'll be another yoitsdan

This is what happens when kids hang out with Ricky Williams in an enclosed space

Hopkins to me is overrated in some ways and i think he if you look at his career he has good timming on his opponents i think Calzagh will beat him with out put. But in no way is Hopkins a bum he cant be with his record.

I think the thread author is a bit daft with his choice of words but Hopkins fans.........what is Hopkins best win? and why?

:newdb:How come SEANIE has gone all soo quite lately........i wonder why?!!!I could'nt stop laughing at his statement earlier.Gee he's really funny!HA!Is he hiding is he?COME OUT SEANIE,AND LETS HEAR SOME MORE OF YOUR BAD CRACK...IT'S FUNNY AS MATE!YOU SHOULD BE A COMEDIAN.

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Originally Posted by SEANIE

You shouldda retired years ago bernard you bum.

Joes gonna beat you blue and knock your sorry self out.

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Damn son; I think that fall you took off the train platform rattled some bearings around a wee bit, huh?

I'm not the biggest fan of Hopkins, but damn, calling him a bum is way past absurd; it's almost criminal. And Calzaghe won't be knocking anyone out, especially Hopkins, so wise up dude.

A textbook example of a hater:p

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Originally Posted by Kel

I think the thread author is a bit daft with his choice of words but Hopkins fans.........what is Hopkins best win? and why?

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You want a list?
Antonio Tarver,moving up two weight classes and nuking him
Antwun Echols he won TWO rounds one handed after his shoulder was seperated
Winky Wright was supposed to take Bernard to school,school was in session,but the other guy ended up being the pupil
An undefeated Glen Johnson,who you might remember almost removing RJJ's head from his shoulders
Tito Trinidad when everyone thought he was unstoppable
One of Bernards first fights,he took THAT day,he had to drive from Philly to upstate NY that day,and knocked the guy out
4 1/2 years at Graterford no less
Noticed I havent even mentioned Keith Holmes,William Joppy,and ODL yet?

Hopkins is no bum, i'm not the biggest hopkins fan but you have to respect certain things he has done in his career. I have questioned a lot of things he has and hasn't done, as have others; but to even joke about hopkins being a bum is blasphemy to the sport.

PErsonally i hate the term "bum" being used to describe fighters; sure we get carried away at times when we are drunk or fucked up and let our emotions get the better of us, but calling someone a bum who puts so much on the line for our entertainment (as well as personal gain) shows you are a fan of a certain fighter rather than a fan of the sport.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I agree with you. But it doesn't really matter. That kid won't be around after Hopkins beats Calzaghe's ass. He'll be another yoitsdan

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Shame you keep sticking around after all your bullshit predictions here.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I agree with you. But it doesn't really matter. That kid won't be around after Hopkins beats Calzaghe's ass. He'll be another yoitsdan

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We are on the same mind set G-man :)

This is the first real guy this overrated champ has faced. Kessler and Manfredo....come on. He is in his late 30's and he has never faced Jones Jr, he has never faced Hopkins or Wright. He is the most cushioned champ in the ring right now.

i have to disagree, if hopkins retired he wouldnt have accomplished gols that he accomplished after losing to taylor

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Originally Posted by southakron314

This is the first real guy this overrated champ has faced. Kessler and Manfredo....come on. He is in his late 30's and he has never faced Jones Jr, he has never faced Hopkins or Wright. He is the most cushioned champ in the ring right now.

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I totally agree. About time someone said it. Im sorry but for a guy who fought in the era of jones,toney,and hopkins he found a way to not fight any of them and i cant excuse that. He might beat hopkins and thats a big if but its honestly too late for it to matter.

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Originally Posted by MRMANICK

I totally agree. About time someone said it. Im sorry but for a guy who fought in the era of jones,toney,and hopkins he found a way to not fight any of them and i cant excuse that. He might beat hopkins and thats a big if but its honestly too late for it to matter.

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TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU BUDDY

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU BUDDY

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and why do you agree with him?

explain this one... tells us how joe didn't find a way to fight hopkins when his and hopkins promo's agreed a price? or how he was meant to move to cruiser and fight toney?

toney wasn't close to joes weight class when he was making a name for him self.

Bernard turned the fight down years ago which was a pity. He didn't want to fight in Wales which is fair enough but it is credit to Joe that he is going to Bernards backyard to fight.

Joe was the Super Middleweight king yet Hopkins moved up from Middleweight and bypassed calzaghe. I think he knew even then that joe was too good for him.

As for Roy Jones - in his prime he would have beaten Joe but he recently admitted he had no reason to fight JC back in the days.

Joe ain't avoided anyone - he was just seen as too big a risk for little reward in the past by people like Roy and Bhop.

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Originally Posted by Preme

and why do you agree with him?

explain this one... tells us how joe didn't find a way to fight hopkins when his and hopkins promo's agreed a price? or how he was meant to move to cruiser and fight toney?

toney wasn't close to joes weight class when he was making a name for him self.

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Tell me do you think it is total coinsidence that Clazaghe has fought mainly in the uk , and hasnt fought any of the following in 10 years -
Roy Jones , James Toney , Benard Hopkins , do you believe and this is a question - that if he had really wanted those matches when they were in a prime , that he couldnt have got them ????
eg. dropping the WBO JOKE title and getting to number 1 contender in which ever orginisation they were affiliated with ????
Fact is Joe has talent but beating a 43 year old Hopkins isnt going to make him great , his best years have gone , a record of 42 wins 3 defeats and having mixed with the best , is better than 46 wins no defeats and didnt mix with the best.
I know you love him in Wales which is fine, but personally i just dont buy it , and his promoter Warren is a joke to .
I truely believe Hopkins has nothing to loose , if he wins he is laughing and if he looses then people will bring up the age thing.
Calzaghe has made no effort to move to a more glamerous division like LHW , or made enough effort to chase the career defining fights , if you dont agree with me then thats ok , but i know there will be a few on here who do agree with me.

I will admit that i am not a fan of Hopkins style but he has achieved plenty,
his resume is solid and although as you say he fought a lot of beefed up Welterweights he still beat them all! He is 43 yrs old and i don't think he has any chance against Joe Balls at all. His comeback wins against Tarver and Winky were superb efforts and he is not a bum. This fight will see the end of him but credit where credit is due and Joe balls has a way to go to receive a lot of that!