I think the main reason Hatton doesnt wana fight Witter is because he is genuinely scared of him. The excuses he has been using are actually pathetic.
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I think the main reason Hatton doesnt wana fight Witter is because he is genuinely scared of him. The excuses he has been using are actually pathetic.
....eh maybe, I think Hatton wouldn't fair so well vs the pure boxers of the Jr. Welterweight class....Malinaggi would even give him trouble.
Ricky Hatton - Joel Casamayor wouldn't be such a bad fight IMO
How many times does this question come up ??
People know my opinion on things anyway.
What your opinion leftylee? Would actually like to see what a Hatton fan thinks about this.
From offically the BIGGEST Hatton fan on here I'll PM you as no doubt VD will have something to say (Some guy who is getting owned by Lefty or another message as his sig for 2 weeks next month and is getting laughed the shit out of when Katsidis THE GREAT knocks his boy out).Quote:
Originally Posted by khan_no_1
Hatton is without a doubt scared to death of Witter. He's shown that by not fighting him. If they ever do fight, I expect to see Hatton crossing himself as many times as Frank Bruno did before the Tyson rematch
Casamayor would whoop his ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
There's no way Casamayor head butts the ring post like your boy Hatton did. Ha! Ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
I really would love that fight to happen as Hatton would whoop his ass so bad Cassamayor would wake up in a coma eating through a straw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Are you talking about this old ageing fucker who got the biggest gift decision of 2007 while getting put on his ass in the process. And the guy who did it Santa Cruz got KO'd by David Diaz (Yes DAVID Diaz) and he still out schooled your boy, HAHA :D :D.
HAHA no wonder I'm above you in the prediction contest. Rocky will win for sure and it will be time to see bye bye to poor lil Joel for good.
Of course he isn't 'scared'....you can't really level that at anyone that steps through the ropes.Quote:
Originally Posted by khan_no_1
Personally, I genuinely believe that Ricky doesn't feel he needs to do Junior any favours by giving him a career payday...but I also appreciate why that seems a weak argument from the outside looking in.
But then you have to take it into context; this sport is all about timing...and with Ricky holding all the cards, they'll make this fight as and when it suits them.
Until then, Junior will just have to continue biding his time...
He fights Floyd now he's scared of Junior?:rolleyes: This is a joke right? He was all in on fighting the best fighter in the world... The number one pound for pound fighter... Now he's afraiid of Junior...
Jesus Christ...:rolleyes:
Why is Hatton gonna come off a loss with floyd and jump in the ring with Witter... Ricky knows he's good and he knows he needs a tune up or two... But scared?...
What the hell is wrong with you people?:mad:
This question opens a number of avenues, but to get to the point, Ricky is not scare of Junior Witter.
In a sense Ricky may feel threatened by Witter, as Ricky's career has staggered in the past niumber of years Junior's has hit it's peak, constantly accelerating.
Additionally, Ricky and his management may feel a certain degree of concern about a prospective Hatton Witter matchup. Witter's style, although not designed to beat the Hitman, is a style which would make Ricky look terrible. The switch hitter style would not mesh well with Hatton's style and an ugly fight would ensue.
To say that Ricky Hatton is afraid of Junior Witter would be an injustice. Hatton has fought Floyd mayweather and Kostya Tszyu. Both Better fighters than Witter is now. Both bigger threats to Hatton's record. To say that Ricky is hesitant would be correct. The reasons are numerous. Witter, an awkward, good fighter is the number two in the division. Beat him now and everybody else is a step down. Get beaten by him and his career is over.
Think of it as a fighter looking to make money. Two options.
1)Hold out on Witter. Fight Lazcano, Paulie Torres and Manny Pac for millions. and then come home to fight witter
or
2) Fight Witter. Then take less interesting fights.
Doesn't let him end on a climax does it?
Ricky Hatton will fight Junior Witter, but it will come at a time which suits him, not Witter.
Don't give me that tune-up bullshit. Did Jermain Taylor take a tune-up after getting stopped by Pavlik? No. Did Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez take tune-ups after fighting and stopping each other? No they did not. They fought the best available opposition. Which is there cases were each other. For the amount of money Hatton is getting paid, he needs to be fighting the best available opponent. Fuck this tune-up shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Basicly... "Hey Junior, shut your mouth ya f***in punk!;D
Yeah, that worked out well for Jermain;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
So you got no problem with Hatton getting paid the amount he's getting paid to face a shot fighter? That's really what you want to see? Hell the fights even on PPV in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
Hatton hates himso much that he does not want to give him a pay day.
In reality hatton has very few fights left in him to prove himself. He needs to look impressive in the fights he does have left. A complete omination or early stoppage of the once-decenet Lazcano will look ok whilst earning him his usual high purse.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Tell me you wouldn't do the same....
If I was in Hatton's shoes, getting paid that much I'd let johnathan Thaxton have a rematch:D
after puting up a great fight against PBF i doubt he's scared of witter.
For Christ's sake no... and I understand what you're saying... That is one of the reasons I never understood why taylor was never adopted as the true middleweight champ... The string of fights he was in was amazing... Barring those two tune ups after Wright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Every fighter takes tuneups form time to time. Some fighters need more mental rebuilding after a loss then others.
IMO Taylor looked the best I had ever seen him in the second Pavlic fight. Back never touched the ropes... Didn't gas in the later rounds. Fought well... Amazingly, I might add...
I think after fighting Mayweather of all people and getting KOd you should be allowed a comeback fight... What they do with the ppv or the purses is non of my concern. I want to see the best Ricky Hatton in there when he fights Witter... A guy with all his confidence.
Do I think Hatton could jump in the ring and a few months and fight Witter? Sure I do. I think he'd win too... Not easily but I think he'd win.
Do I want him to jump in there in a few months to fight witter? No...
Plain and simple:)
If i hated someone that much the first thing i would want to do is punch him in the face! Hatton is stalling and his excuses are wearing thin, he needs this fight to regain credibility that he is losing everyday this fight is not made. I can't see his problem, i think he would smack Witter around for about 8 rounds before stopping him, it's very strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I've got no problem with what he gets paid - as the the fans will either buy it or they wont. No one is forced to buy it ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I'd of prefered him to fight Witter but he isn't...but that's not to say he wont at some point.
Hatton has been in with the best fighter on the planet in floyd so i don't see why he would be scared of witter...but i do belive there is something in witter his camp see's that doesn't sit well with them. These are all just guesses only hatton and his people know for sure.....Sad really cause i think this would be a great fight.
Credibility is a transient thing - it's that old adage of 'only being as good as your last fight' aint it?Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
Give it 12 months and I'm sure the landscape will look different. If you bear in mind the Floyd fight was in the making a long time before it became public, then it puts into context why some things happen and some things don't.
HBO and GBP don't sign you up and 'just see what happens'...
Hatton groupies have been saying that for years. What are they waiting for? Keep in mind Witter is 33. How much older do they want him to get? Is Hatton that oppressed with fighting shot fighters?Quote:
Originally Posted by steelie
In all his career Ricky has never looked good against Southpaws, and Junior is one awkard Southpaw. Its not worth the risk.
Witter's age isn't an issue. He's had fewer fights than Hatton and has fought far fewer tough rounds, both because of a lower level of opposition and his style of fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hatton is probably nearer the end of the line than Junior, older in boxing years so to speak, and that's why I'd like to see the fight happen sooner rather than later.
As for Hatton being 'scared' of Witter, it's just an imbecilic comment in light of his record. To hear the way some people talk about Witter you'd think he was a latter-day Aaron Pryor.
Thats a silly argument. Witter already said he'd take a small % of the purse, and the fight would also make Ricky way more money than fighting Lazcano.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also if i hate someone i generally wanna punch them and shut them up. Ricky would have the chance to do so if he fought Witter.
If Ricky is so confident, destroy Junior then he wont be heard of again.
Yup. Hatton is afraid of losing. Witter has been calling out Hatton and the more excuses he gives, the more of a punk he is.
And Witter has beaten Vivian Harris. Based his career on name calling another fighter and been in countless shit fights.
He knocks out 1 faded former champion and people start wetting themselves. http://www.boxingbanter.com/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif
Witter vs Hatton will probably happen but Ricky has been trying to fry bigger fish. Hatton doesn't owe Witter a big paycheck.
Really can't see why everyone is suddenly a fanboy of Witter.;D
U miss the point. Witter may not have the greatest resume, but he has the second best one at 140 at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
If Hatton is the king at 140 prove it by beating the second best fighter in the division. Witter said he'd take a small cut of the purse so potentially he wont make a huge sum.
Why should Hatton make huge dollars fighting washed up guys? Thats worse to me.
You say that Rob but who has a better resume at Jr Welterweight than Witter ?? except for Hatton of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
Are you friggin kidding me? Casamayor got his ass kicked by a pretty fucking average lightweight in his last fight. The man is living off his own hype alone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
There are no Witter fans...only Hatton haters ;)
Witter should be a comedian, aint nobody heard of that guy...
Hell im confused rite now because I dont know who Witter is
You Hatton apologists crack me up... But Mayweather gets raked over the coals and called a ducker but Hatton wont step up and fight Witter and make a huge domestic showdown:rolleyes:
VD is right, if Witter is a walk in the park than face him:mad: I would give Hatton and his fans the benefit of the doubt with a tune up after a loss, but Fuck that you guys get no mercy from me on this. You chirped and your boy got knocked out and most were not even gracious in defeat and you will Lambaste Mayweather for not fighting Cotto tomorrow then no, Hatton his a ducker plain and simple. He got his big payday with Floyd, now fight your country men and give your fans something they deserve...
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Originally Posted by ICB
Alright Ice,
I have no problem with Hatton and Witter fighting and I'd enjoy watching. I do believe it will happen (by early 2009 at the latest).
What I do find unfair is people expecting Hatton to jump into another fight with a top fighter straight after a big defeat - surely every fighter is allowed a confidence builder and while Lazcano has been inactive he is not a journeyman.
Secondly while Witter may have the 2nd best resume at Jnr.Welterweight and probably has he hasn't really helped himself by concentrating on Hatton instead of doing major things himself.
Some fans seem to have thrown their lot in with Witter based on his name calling and Hatton having been beaten.(not just here but the majority of Boxing sites).
For the record I am not a huge fan of Hatton or anti Witter, like I say I'd like to see them fight. Just let's not all jump on Hatton's back cos Witter is calling him out.
Alright I have calmed down now;D Whats fair is fair though
There's a couple of guys who I totally respected around here and when they come out with stupid commnets about Hatton ducking Witter I lose all respect for them, they know who they are and it's a big shame (No names mentioned).
Alright Eagle,Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleU miss the point. Witter may not have the greatest resume, but he has the second best one at 140 at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
If Hatton is the king at 140 prove it by beating the second best fighter in the division. Witter said he'd take a small cut of the purse so potentially he wont make a huge sum.
Why should Hatton make huge dollars fighting washed up guys? Thats worse to me.
I haven't missed the point. The fight will happen it's a matter of timing. HBO are the paymasters and they will get Hatton vs Witter on..If Witter does something to get casual American Boxing fans interested otherwise Malignaggi or maybe Juan Diaz will be the names on the Executives at HBO.
Hatton beats Lazcano and gets some faith restored so its upto Witter to get the otherside done. Thats how boxing works.:)
Hatton doesn't want to fight Witter cos Witter has been doing nothing for years except struggling against half decent fighters and calling out Hatton.
Hatton has gone and beaten a P4Per in Tszyu then gone to the States to fight and made a name for himself and not been fighting infront of a little crowd of people in the Doncaster Dome.
Why isn't Witter calling out Zab Judah and proving that he was too experienced the 1st time? Haven't heard one poster mention that. Step upto the plate Witter and fight Zab maybe he knows he'd get beaten again.
Maybe Ricky is scared of fighting a decent fighter in their prime. He has only really done that once before and we all know how that ended.......