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ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
Pacquiao vs DL Hoya possible, Roach says
By Nick Giongco, The Manila Bulletin, Fri, 28 Mar 2008
LOS ANGELES — Oscar De La Hoya is reportedly serious in fighting Manny Pacquiao, the Filipino southpaw’s chief trainer disclosed on Wednesday at the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood. "I have been told that they (Golden Boy Promotions) are having a tough time getting (Floyd) Mayweather to sig Read Full Story >>> Manila Bulletin Online
ROACH: "My Dream For Manny Is Hatton at 140"
By Ron Borges, The Sweet Science, Thu, 27 Mar 2008
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Manny Pacquiao could have done better. In the end, that’s the bottom line for Freddie Roach. That’s the way the veteran trainer looked at his fighter’s razor-thin margin of vict Read Full Story >>> ROACH: "My Dream For Manny Is Hatton at 140" | TheSweetScience.com Boxing
I think Roach is not thinking right. He should seek a good neurologist after that terrifying car crash.
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Re: ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
Hey Pacstraightleft i dont think that ODLH will be a possible opponent for Pac. , i agree that maybe Hatton but but Oscar i think never......;D
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
The biggest selling PPV of last year was between a Superfeather and a JMW.........
Just kidding, but its amazing what ppl will watch, and pay money too watch so u never know.
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Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
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Beanflicker
ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
HA! I love sarcasm!
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Granted, Pac was at 145 when he fought Marquez. I could actually see Pac fighting Hatton, Mayweather, and hell, maybe even Cotto. Just because those guys aren't truly big guys and outside of Mayweather, they don't have long reaches. He would be at a severe disadvantage but since they are all around the same height and reach, it wouldn't really be all that different from Mosley jumping up from 135 to 147 to fight ODLH. But Pac fighting ODLH should NEVER happen. How in the fuck do you let a career super-middleweight fight a career super-featherweight? I don't give a damn how much money that fight makes. I understand fighters and networks wanting to make the most money with big "events" but the boxing community has to start taking itself more seriously. These matches are a slap in the face to paying fans. Quite honestly, the first Floyd-Oscar match was a pretty big mismatch on paper. ODLH is a MUCH bigger man than Floyd, the only reason that fight wasn't a big slap in the face was because Floyd has skills to compensate for his size.
Look, I understand that these boxers want to make the most money possible while they can (a la Mayweather, Pacquiao, Hatton, etc...). because stardom only lasts so long in boxing and because boxing is probably the worst sport to grow old in. When you retire, us fans will say "wow, that guy was a great fighter or wow he was a warrior, remember him? Remember that fight?" but in reality, life after boxing is hard for those guys. Most boxers are usually guys with little education and little other skill and can't really make money doing anything else. Plus, boxers take hits to the head that won't affect them now but will 20 years down the road. It's a risk these guys take for their paycheck. We bitch and complain about these guys when they use defense, work the ring, and may not be brawlers, but when we start hearing about these guys having brain damage and early Alzheimers when they are 50, what's the first thing that comes out of our mouths? "Wow, that sucks, that's tragic." None of us gave a fuck when we shelled out $50 to watch the bloodbath that probably contributed to it, we just wanted to get our rocks off on the blood lust and intense action. I'm guilty of this just like every other boxing fan. And that's why I don't go completely crazy when I hear about a boxer "ducking" another boxer or a boxer fighting a lesser "opponent." This is their only livelihood and they SHOULD do what (within reason) will make them the most money because when they are old and out of the sport none of us are gonna send money to their house because their ass already got paid.
With ALL that being said, I DO NOT condone fights like ODLH vs Pac. There's a limit and fights like that aren't about trying to make the most money, they are about raping the sport of it's integrity.
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? If Pac faced ODLH, I can assure he would be making amounts of money he never done before. Whoever gets in the ring with ODLH or Floyd will be making the biggest purse in their career.
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
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Pacstraightleft
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
For ODH v Pac, see ODH v Gatti. He dwarfs him. As has been alluded to above, it's more a freakshow than a bona fide fight.
Pac v Hatton is a touch more realistic but in order for the match up to have any credibility, I'd need to see Pac hanging at 140lb first. Sadly, that's highly unlikely given Mannys marquee status and the dearth of 'names' at light welter...
Still, as PBF says 'if it makes money, it makes sense'........
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hatton is believeable but a de la hoya match will not happen. he is way too big for pac.
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DaxxKahn
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Pacstraightleft
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
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ODLH vs Pac would be retarded, why would anyone want to see that? A super featherweight vs a junior middleweight? Common now. Maybe Kelly Pavlik can fight Wlad Klitschko or Sam Peter on the undercard.
I'd prefer Junior Witter vs. a Bear as the undercard.
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DaxxKahn
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Pacstraightleft
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
To be fair, I understand what Daxx is saying, but he is a little too pissed about it. Probably just his time of the month. ;D
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bzkfn
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DaxxKahn
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
To be fair, I understand what Daxx is saying, but he is a little too pissed about it. Probably just his time of the month. ;D
lol he does have at least one blowout every month so you are probably right.
His postings are a constant amusement to me, he goes from light hearted and jovial to hellfire and damanation and then back again in the space of a couple postings. He does it all the time, its hilarious :D
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bzkfn
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You're meds wearing off again Daxx? :p
Bit harsh mate, all he's saying is Ocar wants the fight for a mega payday, which to be fair is completely and 100% accurate. :)
To be fair, I understand what Daxx is saying, but he is a little too pissed about it. Probably just his time of the month. ;D
lol he does have at least one blowout every month so you are probably right.
His postings are a constant amusement to me, he goes from light hearted and jovial to hellfire and damanation and then back again in the space of a couple postings. He does it all the time, its hilarious :D
:goodvsevil:
Well if his moods are changing that often, I think he may be pregnant. ;D
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bzkfn
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To be fair, I understand what Daxx is saying, but he is a little too pissed about it. Probably just his time of the month. ;D
lol he does have at least one blowout every month so you are probably right.
His postings are a constant amusement to me, he goes from light hearted and jovial to hellfire and damanation and then back again in the space of a couple postings. He does it all the time, its hilarious :D
:goodvsevil:
Well if his moods are changing that often, I think he may be pregnant. ;D
And You Both Can Kiss My Dick:mad::mad:...Just kidding Gent's Rep to both...
It just pisses me off when guys just totally blow out any reason and make post about fighters that are just plain out stupid...Post they don't even believe theirselves...If he was a Vazquez fan he would have made a post about believeing Vazquez could beat Klitschko and how Wlad would need the fight to be the recognized HW champion once and for all....I see him do it all the time with stupid crap...
There is a limit between rooting for your favorite guy and even exaggerating his ability or what he wo0uld be able to do then there is just plain out DUMB ASS SHIT!!!!.....Like I said before he makes post about Pacquiao and his ability that even he does not believe...
In no way shape or forum would Pac fight DLH he knows it and everyone else kows it...and the payday comment was dumb ass too...and the Payday comment making it sound like he will fight Pacquiao just for a mega payaday as Bilbo put it was even stupider...
Even the old ladies at Bingo know DLH does not need Pacquiao or anyone else for a Mega Payday....I can bet all my rep points that DLH is making more for the Forbes fight then Pacquiao has in any fight in his career including the Morales, and Barrera ones...Wait let me change that...Pacquiaos biggest paydays were in the second Barrera fight and second <Marquez fight...because they were both GBP fighters....
DLH wants to fight Pac for a huge payday:rolleyes:...it's the other way around...sdame reason every other fighter in the sport has wanted to fight Oscar....
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lol he does have at least one blowout every month so you are probably right.
His postings are a constant amusement to me, he goes from light hearted and jovial to hellfire and damanation and then back again in the space of a couple postings. He does it all the time, its hilarious :D
:goodvsevil:
Well if his moods are changing that often, I think he may be pregnant. ;D
And You Both Can Kiss My Dick:mad::mad:...Just kidding Gent's Rep to both...
It just pisses me off when guys just totally blow out any reason and make post about fighters that are just plain out stupid...Post they don't even believe theirselves...If he was a Vazquez fan he would have made a post about believeing Vazquez could beat Klitschko and how Wlad would need the fight to be the recognized HW champion once and for all....I see him do it all the time with stupid crap...
There is a limit between rooting for your favorite guy and even exaggerating his ability or what he wo0uld be able to do then there is just plain out DUMB ASS SHIT!!!!.....Like I said before he makes post about Pacquiao and his ability that even he does not believe...
In no way shape or forum would Pac fight DLH he knows it and everyone else kows it...and the payday comment was dumb ass too...and the Payday comment making it sound like he will fight Pacquiao just for a mega payaday as Bilbo put it was even stupider...
Even the old ladies at Bingo know DLH does not need Pacquiao or anyone else for a Mega Payday....I can bet all my rep points that DLH is making more for the Forbes fight then Pacquiao has in any fight in his career including the Morales, and Barrera ones...Wait let me change that...Pacquiaos biggest paydays were in the second Barrera fight and second <Marquez fight...because they were both GBP fighters....
DLH wants to fight Pac for a huge payday:rolleyes:...it's the other way around...sdame reason every other fighter in the sport has wanted to fight Oscar....
So if not for the big payday then Daxx why would Oscar want to fight a superfeatherweight and face the ridicule of his boxing peers?
Is it mere coincidence that the 3 opponents Oscar has been linked to, Pacquaio, Floyd and Hatton also just happen to be the three biggest potential paydays out there for him? :detective:
I mean why else would he choose these opponents? For another chance to win a world title? Hmm none of these would be world title bouts ;)
For a chance to secure himself as the best in that division? All three of them would be seen as being well well out of their natural weight class so no real significance to beating them anyway.
Oscar just wants a huge mega payday, Floyd is a fair fight, he's the best p4p fighter in the world.
But you can't tell me that there is ANY other reason for Oscar in wanting to choose Hatton and Pacquaio as opponents than the fact they represent the easiest big name opponents for the most money.
Either fight is an absolute travesty and a smirch on Oscar's reputation.
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I think that Hatton would be a better matchup becuz if Pacquio jumps up to welterweight & fights Oscar he will get KTFO!
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bzkfn
Well if his moods are changing that often, I think he may be pregnant. ;D
And You Both Can Kiss My Dick:mad::mad:...Just kidding Gent's Rep to both...
It just pisses me off when guys just totally blow out any reason and make post about fighters that are just plain out stupid...Post they don't even believe theirselves...If he was a Vazquez fan he would have made a post about believeing Vazquez could beat Klitschko and how Wlad would need the fight to be the recognized HW champion once and for all....I see him do it all the time with stupid crap...
There is a limit between rooting for your favorite guy and even exaggerating his ability or what he wo0uld be able to do then there is just plain out DUMB ASS SHIT!!!!.....Like I said before he makes post about Pacquiao and his ability that even he does not believe...
In no way shape or forum would Pac fight DLH he knows it and everyone else kows it...and the payday comment was dumb ass too...and the Payday comment making it sound like he will fight Pacquiao just for a mega payaday as Bilbo put it was even stupider...
Even the old ladies at Bingo know DLH does not need Pacquiao or anyone else for a Mega Payday....I can bet all my rep points that DLH is making more for the Forbes fight then Pacquiao has in any fight in his career including the Morales, and Barrera ones...Wait let me change that...Pacquiaos biggest paydays were in the second Barrera fight and second <Marquez fight...because they were both GBP fighters....
DLH wants to fight Pac for a huge payday:rolleyes:...it's the other way around...sdame reason every other fighter in the sport has wanted to fight Oscar....
So if not for the big payday then Daxx why would Oscar want to fight a superfeatherweight and face the ridicule of his boxing peers?
Is it mere coincidence that the 3 opponents Oscar has been linked to, Pacquaio, Floyd and Hatton also just happen to be the three biggest potential paydays out there for him? :detective:
I mean why else would he choose these opponents? For another chance to win a world title? Hmm none of these would be world title bouts ;)
For a chance to secure himself as the best in that division? All three of them would be seen as being well well out of their natural weight class so no real significance to beating them anyway.
Oscar just wants a huge mega payday, Floyd is a fair fight, he's the best p4p fighter in the world.
But you can't tell me that there is ANY other reason for Oscar in wanting to choose Hatton and Pacquaio as opponents than the fact they represent the easiest big name opponents for the most money.
Either fight is an absolute travesty and a smirch on Oscar's reputation.
There is zero merit to the story...it is nothing more then a rumor...this has been going on for 2 years now...
But you are totally missing the point and looking right past what I said as usual...so maybe it is time for you to take 20 minutes from your 3 day marathon in front of the computer and adjust your pain meds....
My whole point was the comment pacstraight made about DLH looking for a fight with Manny for a big payday making it look like he needs pacquiao for a payday...and the BS you just spouted out about Oscar looking for the fight to be named the best in a division is bullshit as well....
Lets make something clear and anyone who does not know this again is either plain out fucking stupid or does not want to admit something that everyone with a ten cent understanding of this sport knows.....
OSCAR DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE IN THIS SPORT FOR A PAYDAY PERIOD!!!!!............
He is the highest paid fighter in the sport...He has made more money as a fighter then any else in history...twice as much as Tyson....plus he is the CEO of the biggest promotion company in the business....and he will say yes to fighting anyone...ask him if he will fight Ivan Calderon he will say Yes...ask him if he will fight Sam Peter he will say Yes...does not mean it is happeneing...
You guys get too wrapped up in bullshit....and fucking believe the bullshit on top of it...
I am disapponted in you Bilbo for even stooping so low to make an arguement you know has no merit and are doing it just to try and stir shit up...Grow the Fuck up
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Re: ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
As others have already said, Pac-DLH just isn't feasible. Oscar is too big, I don't care what Pac weighed on fight night against Marquez.
If Manny is successful at 135, then I could see a Pac-Hatton fight at 140.
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DaxxKahn
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
Excellent post
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Re: ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
Pacquiao gets hit waay too much for him to last with Cotto. Same against Oscar. Hatton would be the best fight for him since I don't see Hatton trying to outbox him.
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This is what I wish to see:
Oscar vs. Cotto. This way De La Hoya will not raise questions for just looking to smaller opponents... and I bet on Cotto winning by TKO. Although I prefer that Cotto fights Floyd.
Pacman vs. Hatton would be a terrific fight.
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It's not that I don't have faith in my boy Pac, but I think fighting Ricky Hatton is already a bad idea. Hatton at 140lbs is a ridiculously scary opponent. Pac would get hurt really bad...
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dang daxx, calm down. pacstraight says one sentence and you murder him :eek: you, bilbo and even pacstraightleft all have a point. your right about oscar not needing other fighters to make a lot out of any fight but pacstraights and bilbos point is that the bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply.
for example: you say oscar will likely earn more then pac has ever earn in oscars coming match against forbes. well don't you think if pac,hatton or any other more well known fighters is in forbes situation, don't you think that would make more?
The Bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply, EVEN FOR OSCAR! thats just the whole point really.
When I can find the vid, I will show you an interview of oscar stating he does indeed consider fighting pac. When this year began, they already had it laid out.
Pac vs Jmm 2 on March
Pac vs David Diaz (forgot what month)
Pac vs Oscar on September 2008, i believe.
Personally I rather see pac stay at 135 cause i really don't like the thought of fighting oscar. I really don't think it will happen either but i just want to let you know daxx that oscar did indeed mention a possible match against pac.
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dang daxx, calm down. pacstraight says one sentence and you murder him :eek: you, bilbo and even pacstraightleft all have a point. your right about oscar not needing other fighters to make a lot out of any fight but pacstraights and bilbos point is that the bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply.
for example: you say oscar will likely earn more then pac has ever earn in oscars coming match against forbes. well don't you think if pac,hatton or any other more well known fighters is in forbes situation, don't you think that would make more?
The Bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply, EVEN FOR OSCAR! thats just the whole point really.
When I can find the vid, I will show you an interview of oscar stating he does indeed consider fighting pac. When this year began, they already had it laid out.
Pac vs Jmm 2 on March
Pac vs David Diaz (forgot what month)
Pac vs Oscar on September 2008, i believe.
Personally I rather see pac stay at 135 cause i really don't like the thought of fighting oscar. I really don't think it will happen either but i just want to let you know daxx that oscar did indeed mention a possible match against pac.
Pay attention on why I said what I said...Had to do with the fact Pac gets unrealistic about his shit with Pacquiao fan boy shit...And again Think I said There have been a lot of names thrown out there and DLH will say yes to any of them brought up...Never did DLH just announce Pac as a name it was always asked and he just always gave the old it is possible reply ....Do me a favor Julius go write poems to the female members and mind your business
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Re: ODLH or Hatton?... Possible future opponents for Pac?
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Pacstraightleft
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Macho
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
Relax there tough guy. What's with the attitude? Why are you so being defensive and shit?
All I said was ODLH wanna make money out of Pac. That could also mean vice versa. You're acting like I'm making these stories up. I even posted some links to back up this thread that I started. They're are not just rumors. If you can't respect my opinion, then GO FUCK YOURSELF THEN!!!
...as simple as that.
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dang daxx, calm down. pacstraight says one sentence and you murder him :eek: you, bilbo and even pacstraightleft all have a point. your right about oscar not needing other fighters to make a lot out of any fight but pacstraights and bilbos point is that the bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply.
for example: you say oscar will likely earn more then pac has ever earn in oscars coming match against forbes. well don't you think if pac,hatton or any other more well known fighters is in forbes situation, don't you think that would make more?
The Bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply, EVEN FOR OSCAR! thats just the whole point really.
When I can find the vid, I will show you an interview of oscar stating he does indeed consider fighting pac. When this year began, they already had it laid out.
Pac vs Jmm 2 on March
Pac vs David Diaz (forgot what month)
Pac vs Oscar on September 2008, i believe.
Personally I rather see pac stay at 135 cause i really don't like the thought of fighting oscar. I really don't think it will happen either but i just want to let you know daxx that oscar did indeed mention a possible match against pac.
Pay attention on why I said what I said...Had to do with the fact Pac gets unrealistic about his shit with Pacquiao fan boy shit...And again Think I said There have been a lot of names thrown out there and DLH will say yes to any of them brought up...Never did DLH just announce Pac as a name it was always asked and he just always gave the old it is possible reply ....Do me a favor Julius go write poems to the female members and mind your business
geez you got issues man :)
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Pac vs. Hatton would be a war. This wouldn't be as big a mismatch as most there think.
Once Pac disposes of David Diaz he'll be ready for the Hitman. Granted of course, that the ref won't condone any of Hatton's holding.
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Pac can fight Hatton in 2009 if he wins over Diaz, Casa and Guzman/Valero.
Fighting Hatton will be his retirement fight. My heart will be for Pac but my prediction will be for Hatton by early KO.:cool:
With Oscar....... I will hate Oscar for the rest of my life if he fights Pacman.:cool:
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Pacstraightleft
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DaxxKahn
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Pacstraightleft
Agreed. I think Oscar just wanna make money out of Pac.
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
Easy there tough guy. What's with the attitude? Why are you so being defensive and shit?
All I said was ODLH wanna make money out of Pac. That could also mean vice versa. You're acting like I'm making these stories up. I even posted some links to back up this thread that I started. They're are not just rumors. If you can't respect my opinion, then GO FUCK YOURSELF THEN!!!
...as simple as that.
Yoyr opinion is always about Pacquiao being great and your opinion is half your post about him are unrealistic...in other words you live in a fantasy land or you know SHIT!!!!!....so when you stop blowing up the Pacquiao bull shit and actually start being realistic and stop posting on the forums as if Pacquiao was invincible then I will respect your opinion....until then your opinion means about as much as the trash that gets put on the curb for weekly pick up....so go Fuck Yourself...
has nothing to do with being a tough guy....so go cry to Mommy because someone does not think Pacquiao is the greatest thing since you found out not everyone believes the bullshit you do..
Here is a preview of what would happen if he fought Hatton
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs...
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Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
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Julius Rain
dang daxx, calm down. pacstraight says one sentence and you murder him :eek: you, bilbo and even pacstraightleft all have a point. your right about oscar not needing other fighters to make a lot out of any fight but pacstraights and bilbos point is that the bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply.
for example: you say oscar will likely earn more then pac has ever earn in oscars coming match against forbes. well don't you think if pac,hatton or any other more well known fighters is in forbes situation, don't you think that would make more?
The Bigger the name the bigger the purse factor will always apply, EVEN FOR OSCAR! thats just the whole point really.
When I can find the vid, I will show you an interview of oscar stating he does indeed consider fighting pac. When this year began, they already had it laid out.
Pac vs Jmm 2 on March
Pac vs David Diaz (forgot what month)
Pac vs Oscar on September 2008, i believe.
Personally I rather see pac stay at 135 cause i really don't like the thought of fighting oscar. I really don't think it will happen either but i just want to let you know daxx that oscar did indeed mention a possible match against pac.
Pay attention on why I said what I said...Had to do with the fact Pac gets unrealistic about his shit with Pacquiao fan boy shit...And again Think I said There have been a lot of names thrown out there and DLH will say yes to any of them brought up...Never did DLH just announce Pac as a name it was always asked and he just always gave the old it is possible reply ....Do me a favor Julius go write poems to the female members and mind your business
geez you got issues man :)
My issue with you is you are getting involved in an arguement that has nothing to do with you...so stop trying to get on someones nuts by thinking if you throw your two cents in Bilbo and Pacstraight will be you forum buddies...Has nothing to do with you stay out of it simple as that...
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DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
Pay attention on why I said what I said...Had to do with the fact Pac gets unrealistic about his shit with Pacquiao fan boy shit...And again Think I said There have been a lot of names thrown out there and DLH will say yes to any of them brought up...Never did DLH just announce Pac as a name it was always asked and he just always gave the old it is possible reply ....Do me a favor Julius go write poems to the female members and mind your business
geez you got issues man :)
My issue with you is you are getting involved in an arguement that has nothing to do with you...so stop trying to get on someones nuts by thinking if you throw your two cents in Bilbo and Pacstraight will be you forum buddies...Has nothing to do with you stay out of it simple as that...
i JUST THINK your picking on him man, its obvious his a fan of pac. so what, he contributes well here. He post a lot of articles not always just about pac. He even post photos of up coming fights. Come on daxx he not that bad, pacstraight is koo man, he doesn't even think pac will beat oscar or hatton so how can he be on pacs nut all the time if he thinks that?
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Just out of curiosity Daxx are you and thebookkeeper related? :D
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
For once get your ass out of the Pacquiao clouds...In all ...and I will repeat that so you remember it...IN ALL!!!! OF BOXING NO FIGHTER WILL MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY WOULD FIGHTING DE LA HOYA...AND NO FIGHTER IS HIGHER PAID THEN OSCAR...NO ONE IS A BIGGER DRAW THEN OSCAR....
DE LA HOYA NEEDS NO ONE FOR A PAY DAY AND ANYONE WHO THINKS DIFFERENT KNOWS ABSOLUTLY SHIT!!! ABOUT THE SPORT!!!!
The day De La Hoya needs Pacquiao or anyone else for a big payday is the day this sport is about to crumble to the ground....
Sorry but it is a fact...and as good as Manny is there comes a time when the laws of nature take over and DLH is too big and TOO strong for Manny...ASnd he is a better tech boxer then Manny...So Manny does not out box him or out power him...Pacquiao loses this if it ever ahppened....Trinidada could not do it, Quartey, Chavez or anyone else but a much Bigger Hopkins...a much smaller Manny is not stopping him...
I FUCKING HATE WHEN THIS FAN SHIT GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND GUYS ACTUALLY THINK THEIR FAVORITES ARE INVINCIBLE....YOU MAKE AN ASSHOLE OF YOURSELF AND THE SPORT...
Easy there tough guy. What's with the attitude? Why are you so being defensive and shit?
All I said was ODLH wanna make money out of Pac. That could also mean vice versa. You're acting like I'm making these stories up. I even posted some links to back up this thread that I started. They're are not just rumors. If you can't respect my opinion, then GO FUCK YOURSELF THEN!!!
...as simple as that.
Yoyr opinion is always about Pacquiao being great and your opinion is half your post about him are unrealistic...in other words you live in a fantasy land or you know SHIT!!!!!....so when you stop blowing up the Pacquiao bull shit and actually start being realistic and stop posting on the forums as if Pacquiao was invincible then I will respect your opinion....until then your opinion means about as much as the trash that gets put on the curb for weekly pick up....so go Fuck Yourself...
has nothing to do with being a tough guy....so go cry to Mommy because someone does not think Pacquiao is the greatest thing since you found out not everyone believes the bullshit you do..
Here is a preview of what would happen if he fought Hatton
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNdhQDD6PHs...
WTF got into you Daxx? Go easy on Goldie's cock will ya?.. you might get choke on it ;). And yeah,... Quit over reacting like a cunt that just ran out of maxie pads. You're starting to sound like Pac is a great threat for ODLH and Hatton.
I myself think Pac fighting Hatton or Dela Hoya is very unrealistic. I'm not saying I'm against it, but there are more challenges out there for Pac that would propel him more to greatness.
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Julius Rain
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DaxxKahn
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Julius Rain
geez you got issues man :)
My issue with you is you are getting involved in an arguement that has nothing to do with you...so stop trying to get on someones nuts by thinking if you throw your two cents in Bilbo and Pacstraight will be you forum buddies...Has nothing to do with you stay out of it simple as that...
i JUST THINK your picking on him man, its obvious his a fan of pac. so what, he contributes well here. He post a lot of articles not always just about pac. He even post photos of up coming fights. Come on daxx he not that bad, pacstraight is koo man, he doesn't even think pac will beat oscar or hatton so how can he be on pacs nut all the time if he thinks that?
Thanks dude. Obviously Daxx missed my comments on how I think Pac fighting ODLH or Hatton is a bad idea.
It's funny how people jump into conclusion right away and not aware of their shit first.
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Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
My issue with you is you are getting involved in an arguement that has nothing to do with you...so stop trying to get on someones nuts by thinking if you throw your two cents in Bilbo and Pacstraight will be you forum buddies...Has nothing to do with you stay out of it simple as that...
i JUST THINK your picking on him man, its obvious his a fan of pac. so what, he contributes well here. He post a lot of articles not always just about pac. He even post photos of up coming fights. Come on daxx he not that bad, pacstraight is koo man, he doesn't even think pac will beat oscar or hatton so how can he be on pacs nut all the time if he thinks that?
Thanks dude. Obviously Daxx missed my comments on how I think Pac fighting ODLH or Hatton is a bad idea.
It's funny how people jump into conclusion right away and not aware of their shit first.
Fighting DLH would set Pac for life while fighting Hatton would be Pac's chance at the higher echelons of the all-time list. I do not see how this is such a bad idea for Pacquiao, who seems to be losing interest in boxing anyway. Why not strike while the iron is hot?
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Watching how smaller Gerry Penalosa KO'd big Jhonny Gonzales by holding up his gloves high and patiently pursuing the constantly attacking Jhonny all day while digging into the body, I thought, hmm, ODLH - pac fight might not be that farfetched, after all. Of course Jhonny is no Oscar. But then, Oscar is well past his prime, while Jhonny is still in his prime - that sort of even up things a bit. And again, Penalosa is not pac either. So somehow, the equation seems to match up a bit. If Hopkins did it with one shot, why not pac just go on holding up his gloves high all day and keeping banging the body. Maybe what Bernard did with one, pac can do it with 10 or even 20. Yup, highly unlikely but not totally impossible as you all know that anything can happen on the ring. Call me nuts, a fool, a fanatic, or a pac nutSucker if you wish. Maybe that's what I am.
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JLAQ
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Originally Posted by
Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
i JUST THINK your picking on him man, its obvious his a fan of pac. so what, he contributes well here. He post a lot of articles not always just about pac. He even post photos of up coming fights. Come on daxx he not that bad, pacstraight is koo man, he doesn't even think pac will beat oscar or hatton so how can he be on pacs nut all the time if he thinks that?
Thanks dude. Obviously Daxx missed my comments on how I think Pac fighting ODLH or Hatton is a bad idea.
It's funny how people jump into conclusion right away and not aware of their shit first.
Fighting DLH would set Pac for life while fighting Hatton would be Pac's chance at the higher echelons of the all-time list. I do not see how this is such a bad idea for Pacquiao, who seems to be losing interest in boxing anyway. Why not strike while the iron is hot?
Pac will end up just like the fading Roberto "no mas" Duran did if you keep insisting that he should skip 2 divisions and lock horns with the big dogs.
Sorry bro, but that is just plain crazy.
