Here's a vid of two good friends.
The shorter guy is my friend Pat, a MMA southpaw.
The taller dark haired guy is a guy I'm training, used to Thai box, turned boxer now.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=KvB_XMJuFS4
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Here's a vid of two good friends.
The shorter guy is my friend Pat, a MMA southpaw.
The taller dark haired guy is a guy I'm training, used to Thai box, turned boxer now.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=KvB_XMJuFS4
Do you want advice? Your guy is too square on but you would know that. Very common with kick boxers/ muay thai guys. Flat footed too. Doesn't jab and needs to keep his hands up. Nice vid though.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Yeah pats mma, he has to be square on togo for take downs. He's southpaw so he gets away with it a bit....I've got a vid of me and pat in some light sparring too! Made by Pat.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerskDo you want advice? Your guy is too square on but you would know that. Very common with kick boxers/ muay thai guys. Flat footed too. Doesn't jab and needs to keep his hands up. Nice vid though.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
One hellof a nice guy!
Right so here's me:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjjgmXpp2jw
Alright they Donny mate.I see you made good use of the squash court,Nice idea!You utilized good punches and you have really good use and length on your jab.You had really steady positioning on your stance too.I know it was only a light spar but keep them methods up and you wont go far wrong in the great game of boxing.Keep it up!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Ah Thanks Yvonne, but to be honest I was only back and I was boxing pretty dodge:DQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonneAlright they Donny mate.I see you made good use of the squash court,Nice idea!You utilized good punches and you have really good use and length on your jab.You had really steady positioning on your stance too.I know it was only a light spar but keep them methods up and you wont go far wrong in the great game of boxing.Keep it up!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
He's puttin up a few newer ones where we're both sharp. So they should be a laugh!
Good for practice good sparring partner to have, he seems to know what to try and expose for you. like that lead right hook around your close in lead left arm.
Theres room to play.
For fun and practice you could turn and face that hook with your left glove up first which nullifies it cause you moved your centre line,
throw the right from your chin straight away to cover his other hand and step out through his right hand with your left foot and body movment and weight shift as you throw your right hand ; your bigger so you can do that and turn him into your right hand by maintaining contact with it until you bodily stop. You heading left but shooting your right covers the path of his free hand too.The open square position they end in is not good for their balance.
Or step back slightly with your right foot so your head is just out of reach slightly and throw your left from inside his glove as you shuffle forwards so your head goes around his glove as your left lightly taggs him then go the left hook over the top of his reaction as you move in.
Like open up stance to just avoid, touch the opening ,close up stance with a following hook over his arm thats reacted to the first touch on the chin.
Just playing with ideas here.;D
Yeah, he's a legend is Pat. We talk over everything and discuss what we want to do. That particualr day we were focusing on getting my defence back nice and tight. You can see he kind of feints in with a double jab, he sees that I've got the guard up that side and then tests the other side. for an mma guy he's got a decent stand up and he's surprisingly elusive for a guy with such a low guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Cool idea Andre. The one point I'll correct you on is my being bigger. I'm 71kg, he's near 82kg. He's veeeerrrry muscular, so I like to maintain my distance. I'm not sure if there are many uppercuts or hooks in there, but I like to duck down low and bring it to his body. (He in turn asks me to do that in order to work on his defence.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
I'll get him to upload some more, so you can see me sharp. I always use that step back idea for quick right hand counters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Sometimes I just remain perfectly vetical, but when he throws a straight, I turn to the right with the elbow guard over the left of my face, blocking the punch, I then snap back as I turn with a straight right. It adds some nice power.
Cool vid hitmandonny. Wow i think you guys need to be real careful if you are going to do this sparring in a squash court often. Those walls are solid and your mates head was very close to hitting the wall after you got that nice right in. If it had hit the wall his brain would have hit the front of his skull when you hit him, then the back when it hit the wall and the front again after bouncing of the back of his skull. That can be dangerous. Otherwise you look good and yes like you said in my post similar to our guy shannon. Look forward to more videos from you.
Yeah it's risky training without headgear, let alone in a squash court.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikersk
But he's hardcore that guy. He's having his mma debut in summer and he'll fight anywhere anytime anyplace.
As for me I love boxing and jump at the opportunity to get sharp, squash court floors are a big help.
We used to train in a concrete handball alley before, very hard on the legs.
Headgear wont help if you hit the back of your head on a concrete wall. There's no padding on the back of headgear. Wow concrete floors, geez i got a stress fracture in my foot from skipping too much on solid floors last year, but not concrete. Sparring when up and down on the toes on concrete, that's tough. You are looking good hitmandonny keep it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyYeah it's risky training without headgear, let alone in a squash court.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikersk
But he's hardcore that guy. He's having his mma debut in summer and he'll fight anywhere anytime anyplace.
As for me I love boxing and jump at the opportunity to get sharp, squash court floors are a big help.
We used to train in a concrete handball alley before, very hard on the legs.
I've been complimented oin that vid, but I think it's just people being nice, wait til you see me sharp!Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerskHeadgear wont help if you hit the back of your head on a concrete wall. There's no padding on the back of headgear. Wow concrete floors, geez i got a stress fracture in my foot from skipping too much on solid floors last year, but not concrete. Sparring when up and down on the toes on concrete, that's tough. You are looking good hitmandonny keep it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyYeah it's risky training without headgear, let alone in a squash court.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikersk
But he's hardcore that guy. He's having his mma debut in summer and he'll fight anywhere anytime anyplace.
As for me I love boxing and jump at the opportunity to get sharp, squash court floors are a big help.
We used to train in a concrete handball alley before, very hard on the legs.
I also had a stress fracture last year, thats why we always go for timber floors now, I use to train in the basement of my old house, such a brilliant little gym, but the concrete floors would kill me now.
Keep an eye on this thread, I'll get pat to throw up some more vids!
Yeah you can tell from your description of the talk you guys had before sparring what you wanted to practice so don't feel as though it doesn't show what you've got to offer. You move well, keep your hands up, jab well and have good range. Don't blame you for keeping your distance he looks pretty strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI've been complimented oin that vid, but I think it's just people being nice, wait til you see me sharp!Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerskHeadgear wont help if you hit the back of your head on a concrete wall. There's no padding on the back of headgear. Wow concrete floors, geez i got a stress fracture in my foot from skipping too much on solid floors last year, but not concrete. Sparring when up and down on the toes on concrete, that's tough. You are looking good hitmandonny keep it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
I also had a stress fracture last year, thats why we always go for timber floors now, I use to train in the basement of my old house, such a brilliant little gym, but the concrete floors would kill me now.
Keep an eye on this thread, I'll get pat to throw up some more vids!
I'll tell you he's strong!Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerskYeah you can tell from your description of the talk you guys had before sparring what you wanted to practice so don't feel as though it doesn't show what you've got to offer. You move well, keep your hands up, jab well and have good range. Don't blame you for keeping your distance he looks pretty strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI've been complimented oin that vid, but I think it's just people being nice, wait til you see me sharp!Quote:
Originally Posted by bikersk
I also had a stress fracture last year, thats why we always go for timber floors now, I use to train in the basement of my old house, such a brilliant little gym, but the concrete floors would kill me now.
Keep an eye on this thread, I'll get pat to throw up some more vids!
As regards punch power I'm cool, I'm more than happy with my chin, so we've got no problems boxing, but I was on the mat with him last week! All I can say is wow, his power on the ground is amazing! I know he's obviously a far better wrest;ler and jiu jitsu guy than me, but still his strength was pretty awesome.
That's always the way. You can tell in your squash court vid that if you jabbed to the head and maybe doubled up on the jab with that right of yours behind it he's saying the same about your boxing. He's square on as we've mentioned and hands are low and does not move like a boxer, he'd be easy for a guy like you to hit. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI'll tell you he's strong!Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerskYeah you can tell from your description of the talk you guys had before sparring what you wanted to practice so don't feel as though it doesn't show what you've got to offer. You move well, keep your hands up, jab well and have good range. Don't blame you for keeping your distance he looks pretty strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
As regards punch power I'm cool, I'm more than happy with my chin, so we've got no problems boxing, but I was on the mat with him last week! All I can say is wow, his power on the ground is amazing! I know he's obviously a far better wrest;ler and jiu jitsu guy than me, but still his strength was pretty awesome.
rue enough, he's a great help though and when preparing for southpaws he's great as his power forces me to move when I tell him to throw bricks. I think you can never really practise moving aginst a southpaw too much.
Good point. Not too many southpaws to spar against. Any experience is good experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Would you believe it mate, there's a higher percentage of southpaws in my home province than anywhere else in the world!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bikerskGood point. Not too many southpaws to spar against. Any experience is good experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Where dou you fight out of biker?
That's a bit unusual outside of the Muay Thai Asia to have more southpaws than conventional. I live at Cessnock NSW Australia, traditionally a mining town but now a tourist town due to having only 1 mine and a huge wine industry. I train at the Cessnock PCYC (Police Citizens Youth Club) it's an armature gym and very old school, which i like. I'm old so don't really fight . If i can get over my injuries i will fight but it will be novice armature.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyWould you believe it mate, there's a higher percentage of southpaws in my home province than anywhere else in the world!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bikerskGood point. Not too many southpaws to spar against. Any experience is good experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Where dou you fight out of biker?
Oh thats cool!
My Dad spent a lot of time in Aus before I was born, I think he was in New South Wales for a good while, but I'll have to check him on that.
I like old school myself.
I do find the benefits of the new systems and techniques, but to be honest I feel for learning how to box, it's great to instil that "grit" early.
only viewed the 1st vid so far.
mma guy is flat footed, leans back from punches rather than blocking/slipping or using footwork.
MT guy gives up his height too easily, he ducks down to meet mma.
both pull back straight from attacks, need to use the pivot.
Are these guys fairly new to boxing?
2nd vid. He looks a strong fella.
Only thing I've read, I'd be aware of over comitting your slips to the right, might not be a big deal right now but I was watching for it and I'm sure (down the line) if it's a habit that sticks pros will be looking to unload there. Maybe tell your sparring partner to look to tag you for it;D
Also if someone backs off in straight lines, try broken rhythm footwork,
take a regular step, shorter back step, then longer front step.
Essentially the same way that you can vary the speed of punches (keep them regular so they expect them and react to them the same then Boom whizz one straight through).
Is there a Cuban influence in the area as regards Southpaws out of interest.
The Muay Thai guy is new to boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Missy
Like you said he sacrifices his height way too much, which is silly as he's 6'3'' or so.
The mma guy has been boxing for a while, he really held back there, he's got enormous power, but didn't use it in the spar.
Yeah, I go down too far to the right even when I am fully fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Missy
Thats only light sparring, I'm hoping to get some more intensive vids up.
I want you to look at something weird.
My left foot there was on the ground the entire time. Any chance thats because of the shouldr injury????
Nicolas Cruz Hernandez, makes regular visits t the gms in our region.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap