Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??

I think after last night Jones could win

Roy COULD win but now since he's well past his prime and went through a stage of being gunshy I think Joe will take a pretty easy UD overwhelming RJJ with the amount of punches thrown.


I would have loved to see them fight 5-6 years ago...it would have been an all around great fight with two fighters at their peak!

theres nothing to gain in beating jones now, the biggest win possible for joe is pavlik.

Pavlik and Calzaghe would be the fight I'd look forward to. IMO joe kinda showed his age as well as hopkins did in yesterdays fight. Pavlik will be the toughest fight for anybody out there. Plus IMO Pavlik is still on the rise to his prime. If Joe can manage to beat Pavlik soon, that would be joes greatest win but thats a huge IF.

Joe wins easily. Jones is past his best. It would have been spectacular a decade ago.

I think this fight will happen next. A win would be a nice feather in the cap for both fighters. I slightly favor Jones but I could see either guy winning. Definately will happen though.

I don't even think this is a question. Calzaghe wins this on easily. What really has RJJ done lately? Not much his last quality win IMO was 5 years ago against Tarver. It would be nice for Joe to get a nice payday but if we're talking quality fights, how about Chad Dawson?

Joe can't keep beating up on these OAP's sooner or later he's going to get an ASBO

We're not talking quality fights, we're talking money fights. :)

Jones is a big name and will help sell the Millenium stadium out and he'll make an exciting fight. Joe gets a win and a nice pension fund top-up.

Jones has a very good right hand lead which will cause Calzaghe a lot of problems, i wouldn't be surprised if Jones decked Calzaghe.

Yeah but he hasn't had the power or the flash since he got KO'd twice

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Yeah but he hasn't had the power or the flash since he got KO'd twice

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Its not so much the power of the shot Lyle, The speed and timing of the shot would shock Calzaghe similar to how Hopkins floored Calzaghe with timing but Hopkins isn't nowhere near as fast as Jones, remember even though Jones is past his prime. He would still be the fastest guy Calzaghe has ever fought by far.

RJJ still hasn't been the same since those fights ....he has fought 3 fights since he went 0-3 losing twice by KO to Tarver and Johnson.

In those 3 fights: Ajamu, Hanshaw, and Trinidad he never once won by KO when if he was in his prime he would have destroyed those guys

Roy Jones Jr. would be overwhelmed.. Joe is too good when you don't move around. When an opponent moves in straight lines, and not very fast anymore is when Calzaghe can use angles, his punch output to win a fight. Kessler was a comparable athlete to Calzaghe, but Calzaghe's strength lies in his endurance which is why he has been so good, not because he is lightning quick or a technical god, but because he will outwork you. Put Prime ROy in there and Calzaghe would have looked ordinary, put a prime Hopkins in there and Calzaghe would have looked pretty ordinary, but put an old Roy in there and Calzaghe would look great, or at least the better of the two.

Roy doesn't have the legs. Even though Hopkins legs aren't what they used to be they're still better than Roy's

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Jones has a very good right hand lead which will cause Calzaghe a lot of problems, i wouldn't be surprised if Jones decked Calzaghe.

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Where's your 12 pieces of silver?

If RJJ had the speed or power that he used to have I would totally agree, the lead right cross plus the leaping left hook/uppercut he has would be the end of Calzaghe's winning streak. But the way things are right now, I see Roy getting beat to the punch and taking lots of shots that he wouldn't normally take.


Roy is done, he couldn't KO Trinidad and that should have been a sign

Calzaghe wouldn't ko Trinidad either, IMO there are a lot of fighters who wouldn't have been able to KO that version of Trinidad. Also I don't think Roy would be beaten to the punch as much as Calzaghe would dictate the pace and not allow Roy to get anything off by bombaring him with punches. I think if Calzaghe fought at a slow pace Roy would beat the shit out of him, but thats not Calzaghe's style.

....Bernard Hopkins stopped Tito.


Winky Wright damn near stopped him, they might as well have stopped that fight because Tito got his ass flat handed to him.


Calzaghe would have beaten Trinidad worse than Jones did

I don't think Roy tried to stop Trinidad. Roy's content to win a points decision, any day. It's not the first time he's done so!

I think Joe looked fine last night - saying he looked old is a compliment to Hopkins. He makes most people look old.

Why The Fuck Is Joe C Wanting To Fight Grandpa Roy Jones. What Has Jones Done In The Last 5 Years To Deserve A Shot At The Title Or Jc, Nothing Bcos He Finshed, Washed Up. The Only Reason Jc Wants To Fight Him Now Is Bcos Hes Washed Up And Finished. Fight Pavlik, Jt, Wnky Or Anybody Who Isnt A Old Age Pensioner Or Peter Manfredo

...in the last 5 years Roy Jones Jr. has moved up from light heavyweight where he was one of the most dominant fighters ever to heavyweight to win a title there.


In the last 5 years Roy has done enough to warrent a shot with anyone....but in the last 3 he has really fallen off

I give Jones a real good chance against Calzaghe on what i saw in the Hopkins fight, one thing is certain Calzaghe won't knock him out with those punches he throws. At this early stage i go for Jones!

jones is like 40, and his success had alot to do with athleticism...



calzaghe would STILL probably lose to a 40 year old guy who relies so heavily on athletic ability, but im sure everyone will overlook that after the fight and claim that he landed more punches against jones then anyone or some bullshit




seriosly calzaghe is a fucking joke calling out jones at this age

I don't think Calzaghe is really calling Jones out at thise stage as much as RJJ is calling Calzaghe out and Joe just wants some huge paydays and people will pay to see this fight because RJJ will build it up like he's 100% back to normal and the best fighter ever and this fight vs Hopkins makes Calzaghe look more human.


It's all an illusion....#1 Nobody has an easy fight vs Hopkins #2 Roy is still afraid to get hit and #3 Roy's reflexes ain't what they used to be....it'll be a tough competitive fight but I think at this stage Joe takes it hands down

FIrst of all people are saying stuff that isn't that important.
1) Roy isn't as athletic as he used to be: He's made changed his style so that, his lose in reflexes isn't a factor anymore. Regardless he is still a way better athlete than Joe is
2) Roy doesn't have power anymore, he still hits harder than Joe.
3) Roy's hasn't been the same since being knocked out: ROy has come closer and closer to looking like the man who beat Tarver the first fight, sure that wasn't the best Roy ever, but thats good enough to have a chance against Calzaghe.
4) WHo else is there for Calzaghe to beat in order for him to get recognition? Except Dawson who will likely dominate the LHW in the years to come there is nobody worth mentioning in 5 years thats still fighting.


WHat I see as a factor is that
Roy can't move, and Calzaghe punches in bunches, but that being said Calzaghe also boxes so in those moments ROy will be the superior figher which makes it interesting, along with the fact Calzaghe has no defense and Roy throws more punches than Hopkins with the same kind of timing but more speed.

Kelly Pavlik is my pick, it would be a bigger and easier fight for Joe in my opinion

6 years ago, Jones beats Calzaghe. Now, Jones almost definately loses on points. But, since Joe beat BHOP, Roy might just try for a KO, unlikely I know, but if Roy was to beat Joe, he would have a great deal of redemption, and would be right back in the middle, IMO. Wishful thinking, I'm picking Roy by KO.

It seems like alot of people think Pavlik would be an easy fight for Joe, it won't be.

Dude, Pavlik is big and he hits hard BUT he's open to counters and his hands are slower than Joe's. I think Calzaghe being quick, being a good counter puncher, and being a southpaw would really screw with Pavlik who's only big test has been vs Jermain Taylor....sure he fought Edison Miranda but Miranda has proven to be a bigger headcase than a good fighter.


I think Joe's style of fighting would benefit from Pavlik's style of fighting but I can't see Pavlik benefitting from the way Joe fights....I think he could psyche out Pavlik and mess him up big time....Pavlik IMO is like a blend of Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler (sure he's a better fighter and more effective but he's similar to both of them, with speed, power, and defense) and Joe handled them with ease

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FIrst of all people are saying stuff that isn't that important.
1) Roy isn't as athletic as he used to be: He's made changed his style so that, his lose in reflexes isn't a factor anymore. Regardless he is still a way better athlete than Joe is
2) Roy doesn't have power anymore, he still hits harder than Joe.
3) Roy's hasn't been the same since being knocked out: ROy has come closer and closer to looking like the man who beat Tarver the first fight, sure that wasn't the best Roy ever, but thats good enough to have a chance against Calzaghe.
4) WHo else is there for Calzaghe to beat in order for him to get recognition? Except Dawson who will likely dominate the LHW in the years to come there is nobody worth mentioning in 5 years thats still fighting.


WHat I see as a factor is that
Roy can't move, and Calzaghe punches in bunches, but that being said Calzaghe also boxes so in those moments ROy will be the superior figher which makes it interesting, along with the fact Calzaghe has no defense and Roy throws more punches than Hopkins with the same kind of timing but more speed.

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You really hate joe.

You will hate joe even after he beats jones and beats pavlik. It must really annoy you that this is gonna happen.

So by your summation jones will beat calzaghe...you write that hes more powerful than joe, faster and at times a superior fighter...once again youll be proven wrong.

I feel sorry for your opinion, the hatred shines through so much in your posts, its anything to make out calzaghe isnt the real deal. So much hate for joe:rolleyes:

I just think Pavlik is better than Lacy and Kessler, I'm not saying Joe couldn't beat him, it would just be tougher. After almost getting KOd by Taylor, I think Pavlik is better mentally than Lacy or Kessler. He perservered, and kod Jermain. I can't see him getting punked by Joe. And IMO, if Pavlik was losing, he would do more, or go for broke, where those other guys didn't.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Dude, Pavlik is big and he hits hard BUT he's open to counters and his hands are slower than Joe's. I think Calzaghe being quick, being a good counter puncher, and being a southpaw would really screw with Pavlik who's only big test has been vs Jermain Taylor....sure he fought Edison Miranda but Miranda has proven to be a bigger headcase than a good fighter.


I think Joe's style of fighting would benefit from Pavlik's style of fighting but I can't see Pavlik benefitting from the way Joe fights....I think he could psyche out Pavlik and mess him up big time....Pavlik IMO is like a blend of Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler (sure he's a better fighter and more effective but he's similar to both of them, with speed, power, and defense) and Joe handled them with ease

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Agreed again.

Although i dont know if pavlik is a better fighter than kessler. Id say that kessler vs pavlik would be a v interesting fight, i couldt predict who would win.

What youve said about styles is correct in my opinion, joe will find the range to counter kelly at, he will confuse kelly and catch him with combos, he will tie him up with in fighting aswell like he did with lacy.

Although pavlik is one of my fav fighters i cant see him beating joe. Id like to see pavlik fight abrahams first because it would be nice to see pavlik win the undisputed title to his name aswell. If he beats abrahams and i think he will then it gives him even more cred when coming into face calzaghe, perhaps more experience aswell, experience against abrahams could be vital when fighting someone like calzaghe.

He was able to recover because JT does not fight consistently for 12 rounds, he tires out, he loads up to much on his right cross and his defense allows a fighter to come close to him and do damage.


Joe is a veteran fighter he's consistent and he plays in the ring even after he's been knocked down....it's very disheartening to be losing a fight and have your opponent showboat and gloat infront of you and honestly I doubt Pavlik will take kindly to that, he tried to do that back and forth with JT and got floored...which shows you he's psychologically weak.


You can be a bad ass and be psychologically weak see Prime Mike Tyson and George Foreman...those guys were psychologically weak but no one was able to break them except the very best...Joe is right now the very best and he can beat Pavlik, he can beat him up too

Lyle, i give it to you on the styles, but I don't think he is weak mentally (good call on tyson and foreman), maybe inexperienced, but where Tyson was an animal, until you broke him, i just don't see Pavlik being that way, especially since he did come back and win against Taylor. also agreed that Taylor could have won that first fight, if he was smarter. Joe is more seasoned, and is a smart fighter, with more experience. Pavlik just seems like a demon though, where not too much deters him, which would play into Joe's gameplan. But, if Pavlik jab is working, could be rough.

I just don't think it would be like Lacy. Man, that was a beat down.

Oh yea, did I mention I'm from Ohio, just like Pavlik, lol

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Lyle, i give it to you on the styles, but I don't think he is weak mentally (good call on tyson and foreman), maybe inexperienced, but where Tyson was an animal, until you broke him, i just don't see Pavlik being that way, especially since he did come back and win against Taylor. also agreed that Taylor could have won that first fight, if he was smarter. Joe is more seasoned, and is a smart fighter, with more experience. Pavlik just seems like a demon though, where not too much deters him, which would play into Joe's gameplan. But, if Pavlik jab is working, could be rough.

I just don't think it would be like Lacy. Man, that was a beat down.

Oh yea, did I mention I'm from Ohio, just like Pavlik, lol

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Your man pavlik is a great exciting fighter mate;)

Lots of respect for him.

It will be a cracking fight with calzaghe if they fight.

Calzaghe slightly past his prime and a prime pavlik. Im not saying that to excuse calzaghe if he loses. If pavlik wins then wow, i mean lets say he beats abrahams at middleweight aswell, then beats calzaghe...that would be incredible, an instant hall of famer by doing that!

But i cant see it happening, as lyle said, calzaghe has too much speed and craft to let pavlik fight his way. He out mastered hopkins with tactics in his last fight, not many people can do that. Couple that with the fact that joe loves to fight against fighters who come forward. I cant see it being pavlik's night.

Id love to see pavlik fight abrahams and kessler and beat those guys though aswell, because he is a real top boxer and id hate to see him lose to joe calzaghe at a young age and then never feel the same again and wither away. I mean if you look at lacy and now even kessler who seems to be acting v strange, although pavlik is DEFINATELY NOT A JEFF LACY, HES MUCH SUPERIOR to lacy, id hate to see him get beat by joe and then have his confidence taken away because i really like the guy as a boxer.

I say that this fight needs to happen, let pavlik fight abrahams to become undisputed whilst joe fights roy jones...then the pair of them should make it a showdown in madison sq.

I think Jones would beat Calzaghe yes he is an old Jones but he is still fast and powerful i think he can roll the clock back for one night only and give Calzaghe an ASS whooping.

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I think Jones would beat Calzaghe yes he is an old Jones but he is still fast and powerful i think he can roll the clock back for one night only and give Calzaghe an ASS whooping.

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I'm going with JC that Mofo is smart he made the necessary adjustments in each fight and won.

i think jones could pull it off.

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I honestly give Roy more than a slight chance to beat Calzaghe. Calzaghe is weak to counters and Jones can counter the shit out of him on a good night. Sure he's aged but he still has the power and a speed advantage over JC. I think Joe showed a few weaknesses last night that Roy will be looking to exploit. My worry for Jones would have been if JC was a big puncher but he's not. I see Jones putting JC on the seat of his pants a few times in that fight with his timing and power.