The Power Of Pacquiao

When it comes to star power, no fighter can compete with Manny Pacquiao. Every single thing that this guy does makes news, and quite a bit that he doesn’t do as well. He’s good copy in any language.

I can’t think of a single athlete in any sport that can command the type of attention that Pacquiao receives world wide, not in team sports, not golf, not tennis, and not boxing. David Beckham probably comes closest.

For example, pound for pound best Floyd Mayweather Jr., with the help of a great publicity machine has participated in “Dancing with the Stars,” “Wrestlemania XXIV,” and will wave the green flag at the Indy 500. He’s also had his share of negative press for “making it rain” in strip clubs, his family squabbles, and his occasional outrageous statements in hyping a fight. But even Floyd is not in Manny’s league as an international star.

Much has been made about Pacquiao’s superstar status in the Philippines, where he is treated as a god, but it doesn’t just end there in the Pacific. The boxing sites all know it. A story about Pacquiao missing a plane will draw more readers than a heavyweight title bout. Mayweather’s stories don’t even come close.




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If Floyd has some negative press about him,.. and so does Manny.

Get real folks. Manny isnt in the same league as Beckham when it comes to fame.

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Get real folks. Manny isnt in the same league as Beckham when it comes to fame.

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tell that to the author of the article or to 15rounds.com ...

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Get real folks. Manny isnt in the same league as Beckham when it comes to fame.

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tell that to the author of the article or to 15rounds.com ...

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He can write what he likes, he is still spouting nonsense if he thinks Manny is the worlds most famous sports star.

Unlike Beckham, Ive yet to see Manny on national news in England or Japan (Where I live now). Never seen him on a talk show, never seen him advertising any Multinational brands, never seen his photo splattered all over department stores and fashion shops.

This isnt to suggest that I dont like Manny or that he isnt popular, the author is simply getting carried away.

It also attributes to the type of life he lives.

Mayweather is trying to become a mainstream name by doing the things he's been doing. Cotto could be just as big, but he only becomes news when he's about to fight because he probably lives a normal life. Hatton is the same way. HUGE in England, but the most excitement out of boxing you get out of him is his liking to beer and food. I could name more fighters but all-in-all everyone leads pretty normal lives outside the ring.

Pacquiao on the other hand does movies, goes clubbing, makes music, delays training and appearances, supposedly cheats on his wife, etc. There's a lot of room for error with his lifstyle considering he's a boxer. Look at Tyson! He lived a crazy life outside of boxing and that's why he was always on the spotlight.

It's basically just easy to write stuff about Manny because there's so much excitement with him in the ring AND outside of it.

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Get real folks. Manny isnt in the same league as Beckham when it comes to fame.

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tell that to the author of the article or to 15rounds.com ...

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He can write what he likes, he is still spouting nonsense if he thinks Manny is the worlds most famous sports star.

Unlike Beckham, Ive yet to see Manny on national news in England or Japan (Where I live now). Never seen him on a talk show, never seen him advertising any Multinational brands, never seen his photo splattered all over department stores and fashion shops.

This isnt to suggest that I dont like Manny or that he isnt popular, the author is simply getting carried away.

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Probably... Michael Swann (the author) is a Pacquiao nuthugger? ;)

Regarding major multinational brand advertisement, Pacquiao has a Nike commercial with Kobe Bryant, Cristiano Ronaldo, Roger Federer, Maria Sharapova, and Xiang Liu.

That's a very good company of several sports superstars. Xiang Liu is the only one I'm not familiar with...

Here's that Nike commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9nCPbbngmI

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I think Pac is a great guy all 'round.. Great for boxing.. Great for sport in general.. His work ethic is sensational, he has trained his skills very very hard.
I'm sure he is huge in his home country though, as they don't have any big sportsmen..

Same sort of thing with Australia. If we have an international star, it really grabs the attention and support from every sport fan..
I don't think he is the worlds biggest sportsman though.. In some circles he is very very well known.. But I can gaurantee you I can go into my workplace tomorrow, ask the 100 odd staff that work there, and I doubt even 5 of them would have even heard his name before..

Mike Tyson, Ali, even Lennox Lewis are more household names than Manny..

If he's doing Nike commercials i'm sure he will be a little more well known, and I think he deserves all the success and money that he has coming to him.

But I don't think the author has much perspective on real time reality if he think that Manny is, or will be the worlds most well known sports star.

Ehhh, what can I say? My boy has gone big and it will be a matter of time when when he will truly become a household name all over the world..... maybe if he will be able to TKO Diaz in round 1 and TKO Hatton in round 2. hehehe.

Anyway, there's also a chance that he might be forgotten immediately if Diaz TKO him.;D

mannymannymannymyarse.

I am neg repping saddoboxer for another dumb thread

I still say Oscar has larger star power, simply because of numbers... there are so many latino americans that follow him that it probably is a greater number than there are phillipinos in the world.

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mannymannymannymyarse.

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So you're shooting the messenger... Shoot the author of this article... I'm just presenting his opinion about PAC here...

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I think Pac is a great guy all 'round.. Great for boxing.. Great for sport in general.. His work ethic is sensational, he has trained his skills very very hard.
I'm sure he is huge in his home country though, as they don't have any big sportsmen..

Same sort of thing with Australia. If we have an international star, it really grabs the attention and support from every sport fan..
I don't think he is the worlds biggest sportsman though.. In some circles he is very very well known.. But I can gaurantee you I can go into my workplace tomorrow, ask the 100 odd staff that work there, and I doubt even 5 of them would have even heard his name before..

Mike Tyson, Ali, even Lennox Lewis are more household names than Manny..

If he's doing Nike commercials i'm sure he will be a little more well known, and I think he deserves all the success and money that he has coming to him.

But I don't think the author has much perspective on real time reality if he think that Manny is, or will be the worlds most well known sports star.

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I hope one day Pacquiao can visit Australia... There's a considerable Filipino population in OZ more particularly in the cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and many other...

The author is a little bit bias. Obviously he's pac fan and a PBF disliker. He just destroyed his credibility as a writter in that article of his.

I can only speak for my area where I live and who I hang out with, but

Commonly spoken names are: ODLH, Kobe, Shaq, A-Rod, Beckham, Henry.

When I bring up Pacquiao to the average Joe I hang out with the ask 3 or 4 times how to pronounce it and then ask if he's any good. I am sure in the Phillipines and anyone worldwide that follows boxing even casually or occasionally would know him, I haven't met that many people that know who he is. Where I live though boxing is not very popular anymore.

I do however find it funny that someone would write an article that says basically "PAC is popular" not exactly investigative journalism, kinda one of those things that goes without saying if it's true.

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I can only speak for my area where I live and who I hang out with, but

Commonly spoken names are: ODLH, Kobe, Shaq, A-Rod, Beckham, Henry.

When I bring up Pacquiao to the average Joe I hang out with the ask 3 or 4 times how to pronounce it and then ask if he's any good. I am sure in the Phillipines and anyone worldwide that follows boxing even casually or occasionally would know him, I haven't met that many people that know who he is. Where I live though boxing is not very popular anymore.

I do however find it funny that someone would write an article that says basically "PAC is popular" not exactly investigative journalism, kinda one of those things that goes without saying if it's true.

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I can say that PAC is very popular in the internet worldwide... Just like in the internet boxing forums, for example in this forum, PAC is heavily discussed.

I remember PACQUIAO made it to Yahoo's top 5 list of most search names/words...

And if a internet boxing website carry any news about PAC, it will surely get a lot of hits. I can even sense that some boxers called out PAC just to have their name in the news. One of the latest is Amir Khan. Maybe this is the workings of the management of those boxers. They wanted some free publicity of their own boxers so why not call out PAC.

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I can only speak for my area where I live and who I hang out with, but

Commonly spoken names are: ODLH, Kobe, Shaq, A-Rod, Beckham, Henry.

When I bring up Pacquiao to the average Joe I hang out with the ask 3 or 4 times how to pronounce it and then ask if he's any good. I am sure in the Phillipines and anyone worldwide that follows boxing even casually or occasionally would know him, I haven't met that many people that know who he is. Where I live though boxing is not very popular anymore.

I do however find it funny that someone would write an article that says basically "PAC is popular" not exactly investigative journalism, kinda one of those things that goes without saying if it's true.

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I can say that PAC is very popular in the internet worldwide... Just like in the internet boxing forums, for example in this forum, PAC is heavily discussed.

I remember PACQUIAO made it to Yahoo's top 5 list of most search names/words...

And if a internet boxing website carry any news about PAC, it will surely get a lot of hits. I can even sense that some boxers called out PAC just to have their name in the news. One of the latest is Amir Khan. Maybe this is the workings of the management of those boxers. They wanted some free publicity of their own boxers so why not call out PAC.

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Of course he is heavily discussed here, you post a new topic about him every 20 minutes.

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I can only speak for my area where I live and who I hang out with, but

Commonly spoken names are: ODLH, Kobe, Shaq, A-Rod, Beckham, Henry.

When I bring up Pacquiao to the average Joe I hang out with the ask 3 or 4 times how to pronounce it and then ask if he's any good. I am sure in the Phillipines and anyone worldwide that follows boxing even casually or occasionally would know him, I haven't met that many people that know who he is. Where I live though boxing is not very popular anymore.

I do however find it funny that someone would write an article that says basically "PAC is popular" not exactly investigative journalism, kinda one of those things that goes without saying if it's true.

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I can say that PAC is very popular in the internet worldwide... Just like in the internet boxing forums, for example in this forum, PAC is heavily discussed.

I remember PACQUIAO made it to Yahoo's top 5 list of most search names/words...

And if a internet boxing website carry any news about PAC, it will surely get a lot of hits. I can even sense that some boxers called out PAC just to have their name in the news. One of the latest is Amir Khan. Maybe this is the workings of the management of those boxers. They wanted some free publicity of their own boxers so why not call out PAC.

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Of course he is heavily discussed here, you post a new topic about him every 20 minutes.

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20 minutes is not true... I posted the other topics yesterday... ;D

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I can say that PAC is very popular in the internet worldwide... Just like in the internet boxing forums, for example in this forum, PAC is heavily discussed.

I remember PACQUIAO made it to Yahoo's top 5 list of most search names/words...

And if a internet boxing website carry any news about PAC, it will surely get a lot of hits. I can even sense that some boxers called out PAC just to have their name in the news. One of the latest is Amir Khan. Maybe this is the workings of the management of those boxers. They wanted some free publicity of their own boxers so why not call out PAC.

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Of course he is heavily discussed here, you post a new topic about him every 20 minutes.

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20 minutes is not true... I posted the other topics yesterday... ;D

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I'm just messin with ya anyway, but to say PAC is more popular worldwide than ODLH is ridiculous. 3.7 million ppv buys says so.

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Of course he is heavily discussed here, you post a new topic about him every 20 minutes.

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20 minutes is not true... I posted the other topics yesterday... ;D

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I'm just messin with ya anyway, but to say PAC is more popular worldwide than ODLH is ridiculous. 3.7 million ppv buys says so.

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PAC's most simple and casual daily activities (scuba diving, missing a plane, etc.) draw more readers compared to casual news about other sports superstars... ODLH most recent big "casual" news is the fishnet story... ;D

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I like Manny and he is a big name in the sporting world but not quite that big...

1. ODLH is the biggest name in boxing hands down

2. Any writer that uses the word "Duh" in his article I question his knowledge of anything

3. More of the average person on the street would know Evander Holyfield's name before Pacquiao's if we went world wide....Don't take my word for it do a test of your own..Pacqiao is famous in the sporting world and his homeland but not to the average person

4. The ONLY ATHLETE to EVER garner the attention this guy claims Pacquia does is Muhammad Ali...Even this long after his fighting days...That man can get press just by opening his front door..

This kid is a bit too much of a fan and past the slightly biased point...He needs to stop writing for 15 rounds and start his own Pacquiao homepage.....

And in no way do I mean anything negative towards Manny...The guy is a tremendous fighter and does have quite some popularity but not to the extent this guy makes out

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mannymannymannymyarse.

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Amen on the dumb thread.

Pac has nothing at 140 imaging at 147. ;D

I love Pac but the movies you see him down there in your country are not real.

Just a few completely un-scientific observations on this subject, based on Google Fight : Make a fight with googleFight:

Manny Pacquiao is nowhere near Oscar de la Hoya (Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Oscar de la Hoya VS Manny Pacquiao), but he actually beats both Evander Holyfield and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

He loses however to both Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe, while Muhammed Ali and Mike Tyson kicks serious google-a** on all of the above mentioned guys.

As for comparing Pac with Beckham? Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight David Beckham VS Manny Pacquiao

Roger Federer: Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Roger Federer VS Manny Pacquiao

Kobe Bryant: Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Kobe Bryant VS Manny Pacquiao

Cristiano Ronaldo: Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Cristiano Ronaldo VS Manny Pacquiao

Lewis Hamilton: Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Lewis Hamilton VS Manny Pacquiao

Tiger Woods: Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Lewis Hamilton VS Manny Pacquiao

Really, you shouldnt even have to click on these links to know that Pac wont come anywhere close any of these guys. He simply doesnt belong in this league (and neither do Oscar de la Hoya for that matter). And there is probably at least 50 other sportspeople not being there who would come before him as well.

okay you debate on the popularity of my boy and that makes him even more popular. hehehe.

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okay you debate on the popularity of my boy and that makes him even more popular. hehehe.

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What goes on in this forum does nothing to inform the general public =)

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okay you debate on the popularity of my boy and that makes him even more popular. hehehe.

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What goes on in this forum does nothing to inform the general public =)

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I beg to disagree killersheep. There are many boxing fans who are visiting this forum.:cool:

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okay you debate on the popularity of my boy and that makes him even more popular. hehehe.

;D

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What goes on in this forum does nothing to inform the general public =)

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I beg to disagree killersheep. There are many boxing fans who are visiting this forum.:cool:

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And boxing fans are not the general public.

LOL. Sorry I forgot. I thought all people are boxing fans;D;D;D

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When it comes to star power, no fighter can compete with Manny Pacquiao. Every single thing that this guy does makes news, and quite a bit that he doesn’t do as well. He’s good copy in any language.

I can’t think of a single athlete in any sport that can command the type of attention that Pacquiao receives world wide, not in team sports, not golf, not tennis, and not boxing. David Beckham probably comes closest.

For example, pound for pound best Floyd Mayweather Jr., with the help of a great publicity machine has participated in “Dancing with the Stars,” “Wrestlemania XXIV,” and will wave the green flag at the Indy 500. He’s also had his share of negative press for “making it rain” in strip clubs, his family squabbles, and his occasional outrageous statements in hyping a fight. But even Floyd is not in Manny’s league as an international star.

Much has been made about Pacquiao’s superstar status in the Philippines, where he is treated as a god, but it doesn’t just end there in the Pacific. The boxing sites all know it. A story about Pacquiao missing a plane will draw more readers than a heavyweight title bout. Mayweather’s stories don’t even come close.

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Uuuuummmm!!! does the name Oscar De La Hoya mean anything?

How about:
Beckham
Kobe
Tiger
Federor
Ronaldinho
Tyson

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I like Manny and he is a big name in the sporting world but not quite that big...

1. ODLH is the biggest name in boxing hands down

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If we are talking general public and boxing fans combined the biggest and most recognised name in boxing is hands down is Mike Tyson

and will be for many years

My gran knows who Mike Tyson is, sky could PPV him having a shit and it would outsell most fights

Muhamad Ali is the biggest name.

I had no idea who Pacquiao was until I joined this board. Zero.

But I also wasn't much of a fan of the stars of the sport, and more of a fan of the game. Since tho, I have been utubing people when I see them mentioned a lot, and Manny I instantly came to like high on my new list of pro boxers to watch.

He's fast, exciting, hits hard and has charisma.

just a n00bs humble opinion. :)

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I had no idea who Pacquiao was until I joined this board. Zero.

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WTF? He's been the Ring #2 p4p fighter for 2 years now. Do you even know Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez? If you missed their big rivalries then that's too bad.

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Muhamad Ali is the biggest name.

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No Chance

Don't get confused with the greatest

Mike Tyson is head and shoulders the biggest name boxing has ever seen

Search google for Muhammad Ali 108,000 results

Mike Tyson 3,390,000

I not saying he should be or thats this is based on boxing abliity, just that his name transcends boxing, not for the best reasons but no one comes near him

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I had no idea who Pacquiao was until I joined this board. Zero.

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WTF? He's been the Ring #2 p4p fighter for 2 years now. Do you even know Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez? If you missed their big rivalries then that's too bad.

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uhh, dude. I am 13 years old. Been spending my boxing time in a gym working out, fighting, learning the sport from that point of view. This is all new to me. And no, I didn't know who any of those people were either, but I am learning about them.

The only boxers I really knew were people like Ali and those old time legends, ODLH, Sugar Ray, Mayweather, stuff like that.

Just telling it like it is...

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Muhamad Ali is the biggest name.

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No Chance

Don't get confused with the greatest

Mike Tyson is head and shoulders the biggest name boxing has ever seen

Search google for Muhammad Ali 108,000 results

Mike Tyson 3,390,000

I not saying he should be or thats this is based on boxing abliity, just that his name transcends boxing, not for the best reasons but no one comes near him

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No chance?.. lol! I believe this topic is about popularity.

Muhamad Ali is the biggest, the greatest,.. I mean he is the big Kahuna in boxing.

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No chance?.. lol! I believe this topic is about popularity.

Muhamad Ali is the biggest, the greatest,.. I mean he is the big Kahuna in boxing.

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I am not refering to popularity I am talking about and I think this thread is about the most recognised name in boxing, by both boxing fans and non boxing fans alike

Stop random people in the street and more will have heard of Mike than Ali

Ali is the big Kahuna:) to boxing fans but Tyson is the biggest name

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No chance?.. lol! I believe this topic is about popularity.

Muhamad Ali is the biggest, the greatest,.. I mean he is the big Kahuna in boxing.

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I am not refering to popularity I am talking about and I think this thread is about the most recognised name in boxing, by both boxing fans and non boxing fans alike

Stop random people in the street and more will have heard of Mike than Ali

Ali is the big Kahuna:) to boxing fans but Tyson is the biggest name

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What's the big diff between biggest name and popular name? :confused:

...not much really.

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I had no idea who Pacquiao was until I joined this board. Zero.

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WTF? He's been the Ring #2 p4p fighter for 2 years now. Do you even know Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez? If you missed their big rivalries then that's too bad.

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uhh, dude. I am 13 years old. Been spending my boxing time in a gym working out, fighting, learning the sport from that point of view. This is all new to me. And no, I didn't know who any of those people were either, but I am learning about them.

The only boxers I really knew were people like Ali and those old time legends, ODLH, Sugar Ray, Mayweather, stuff like that.

Just telling it like it is...

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I may have over exxagerated with the p4p ranking there. Ring mag put Pac up in #2 after he KOed Morales for the second time. But it's really hard for someone not to know Pac if he heard of Morales, Barrera, and Marquez before.

This kind of thread is a natural magnet for that kind of response. I'll give a medal of courage to Saddoboxer for starting this nice mess.;D