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Question about Rocky III
I heard that before Mr. T, there was a boxer in real life named Earnest (can't remember his last name) that was supposed to portray Clubber Lang. But he had a squeaky voice, much like Mike Tyson, and Stallone didn't want that.
Then there was another guy (don't know if it was Earnest or not), that got in the ring and wanted to beat the hell out of Stallone, he didn't understand the concept of 'ACTING', and that in the script he was going to lose, so Stallone had to kick him out. Does anyone know the guys name?
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Earnie Shavers was the first name considered for the role of Clubber Lang so thats where you get Ernest from
Joe Frazier was also considered
Thats all I know - hope this helps ;)
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Mark TKO
Earnie Shavers was the first name considered for the role of Clubber Lang so thats where you get Ernest from
Joe Frazier was also considered
Thats all I know - hope this helps ;)
Didn't Joe Frazier make an appearence in the 1st movie? Don't know if it was him in real life (it looked like it was), but he shook hands with Apollo and Rocky before the fight.
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Yes they fought in Philadelphia and Frazier was ring side.
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I read in a book, and maybe on wiki not shure...., that Lenny Mclean wanted to fight Mr-T years ago but he wouldent because he didnt want a messed up face because it wouldent look good when hes on tv lol
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Earnie Shavers was the first name considered for the role of Clubber Lang so thats where you get Ernest from
Joe Frazier was also considered
Thats all I know - hope this helps ;)
Didn't Joe Frazier make an appearence in the 1st movie? Don't know if it was him in real life (it looked like it was), but he shook hands with Apollo and Rocky before the fight.
One of the best lines from the first film,Frazier gets in to the ring and starts clowning around with Apollo Creed. Rocky turns to Micky and says,"They must be friends"
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I read in a book, and maybe on wiki not shure...., that Lenny Mclean wanted to fight Mr-T years ago but he wouldent because he didnt want a messed up face because it wouldent look good when hes on tv lol
Lenny would of messed him up proper
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I don't think so Mr.T was a fighter in real life was he?
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lol... what do you think Mclean was? ;)
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I don't think so Mr.T was a fighter in real life was he?
Mr. T won a National Toughman contest.
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I don't think so Mr.T was a fighter in real life was he?
Mr. T won a National Toughman contest.
Yeah. I saw that. He busted through a wall because he couldn't climb over it. He did it for the keeds.
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I think Mr.T used to work as a minder to the stars as he was a bit of a hard man.
almost certainly no Lenny though...
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I wonder why Mr. T didn't become a boxer. Hey, good for him he didn't have to get punched in the face to make a living, but he might have been good.
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I wonder why Mr. T didn't become a boxer. Hey, good for him he didn't have to get punched in the face to make a living, but he might have been good.
Too muscular,and too short
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I think the best fighter of all of them was Apollo Creed damn shame to because he was better than Mason Dixon .I think Carl Weathers would have kicked Antonio Tarver's ass in a real fight.
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Guys, guys .... it takes more than a few muscles to become a fighter.
Firstly, you need to learn your craft as a fighter - that's why guys like Foreman etc can beat the shit out of young muscley guys - the olden greats didn;t have ripped physiques like today's guys but their stamina was much better as they were not sweating every ounce off to make a weight.
Look at guys like Frank Bruno, huge muscles and all but he was mechanical and was not a graceful fighter at heart. Someone like Jack Dempsey four stone lighter and 4 inches shorter, would have eaten him up.
Some fake wrestler or actor would not be able to go with a fighter in the top 100 in any weight (apart from the heavys and the flyweights as there is not as much depth there) ...... I'm with Trainer Monkey on this.
Innfact, I'd quite like to see someone like Jean Claude Vann Damme get totally battered, humiliated and knocked senseless by someone like Micheal Nunn. When a professional fighter - at any weight - hits a 'civilian', said civvy gets wrecked.
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I think Mr.T used to work as a minder to the stars as he was a bit of a hard man.
almost certainly no Lenny though...
In Larry Holmes autobiography he states that MR T was the bodyguard of Leon Spinks and that Holmes and Spinks both attended a function and all Leon did was abuse Larry and also his wife Dianne, Holmes did say though to be fair that MR T did stand his ground in front of Leon.
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I heard that before Mr. T, there was a boxer in real life named Earnest (can't remember his last name) that was supposed to portray Clubber Lang. But he had a squeaky voice, much like Mike Tyson, and Stallone didn't want that.
Then there was another guy (don't know if it was Earnest or not), that got in the ring and wanted to beat the hell out of Stallone, he didn't understand the concept of 'ACTING', and that in the script he was going to lose, so Stallone had to kick him out. Does anyone know the guys name?
I think i can put some of this straight. Earnie Shavers was asked by Stallone to try out for the part of Clubber Lang. So Earnie turns up and Stallone asked him to do a fight scene. So Earnie ( one of the hardest punchers in history ) did a fight scene and purposely pulled his punches. Stallone after about 10 minutes said come on Earnie you got to punch properly so Shavers punched Stallone in the stomach at full tilt and knocked Stallone down for about 10 minutes. At the end of the trial Stallone told Shavers he wouldnt get the part because the public wouldny buy into Stallone knocking Shavers out. This is all written in the Shavers autobiography "Welcome to the Big time"
PS- in Rocky 2, Micky tells him he needs speed so Rocky spars with a ligtweight. If you look carefully it is Roberto Duran. Check the credits if you want to.
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Hey guys,
My first post, so be nice! Just kidding.
At Wrestlemania 2, he and Roddy Piper did some real (and some fake) boxing and T blew up in minutes. Piper had some boxing background and even though he threw mainly worked punches, his hand speed was twice as T's. T could only really lunge.
As a boxer, he probably wouldn't have been very good. But as a bodyguard who needed to look mean, not sure there was anyone better.
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The guy is actually known to be genuinely nice fellow. Does a slew of charity work. I also know he is a genuine bad ass that is not to be messed with.
If I am not mistaken he was in a special op's division of the military (The kind where they infiltrate places and leave no witnesses) and no I do not mean the A-Team lol.
He was a student of Bruce Lee's as well as a Body guard for him. He was a bodyguard for Joe Frazier, Leon Spinks and for a while Ali.
He was discovered at the Worlds Toughest Bouncer Competition.
I was a hige fan as a teenager. Why? I could not tell you
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Guys, guys .... it takes more than a few muscles to become a fighter.
Firstly, you need to learn your craft as a fighter - that's why guys like Foreman etc can beat the shit out of young muscley guys - the olden greats didn;t have ripped physiques like today's guys but their stamina was much better as they were not sweating every ounce off to make a weight.
Look at guys like Frank Bruno, huge muscles and all but he was mechanical and was not a graceful fighter at heart. Someone like Jack Dempsey four stone lighter and 4 inches shorter, would have eaten him up.
Some fake wrestler or actor would not be able to go with a fighter in the top 100 in any weight (apart from the heavys and the flyweights as there is not as much depth there) ...... I'm with Trainer Monkey on this.
Innfact, I'd quite like to see someone like Jean Claude Vann Damme get totally battered, humiliated and knocked senseless by someone like Micheal Nunn. When a professional fighter - at any weight - hits a 'civilian', said civvy gets wrecked.
Don't diss Van Damme. Them's fightin words son...
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
Stallone sparred with Duran for God Sakes!!! lol.
Where did you hear about Dolph Lundgren hurtin him like that?
Sources please?
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hitmandonny
In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
Stallone sparred with Duran for God Sakes!!! lol.
Where did you hear about Dolph Lundgren hurtin him like that?
Sources please?
Well its reported he broke his ribs during Rambo first blood, Rocky 2 with Carl Weathers, Rocky 3 with Mr.t and Rocky 4 with Lundgren.
Funnily enough Morrisson was the only one not to break his ribs:p
Lundgren said in an interview he broke Stallones ribs by accident.
As for sparring wioth Duran, anyone could spar him, doesn't mean they'd succeed.
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My eldest brother was a huge Stallone fan back in the day and used to keep scrapbooks, Rocky 4 one is pretty impressive. Stallone said himself that Lundgren beat the piss out of him.
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Ralph Macchio would open a can of whoop-ass on the whole lot of them put together
FACT !
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Ralph Macchio would open a can of whoop-ass on the whole lot of them put together
FACT !
The Crane: "If done correct... No can defense!"
Drum Technique... Nuff said;D
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
Lundgren was diesel back in the day. Hell, he's still ripped and he's gotta be in his 50s. I wouldn't mess with him. Unless he'd spot me and let me smash him over the head with a bat first.
Ugh, let me take that back. Dolph looks really old now. He could still beat me up, but only because I respect my elders.
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
Lundgren was diesel back in the day. Hell, he's still ripped and he's gotta be in his 50s. I wouldn't mess with him. Unless he'd spot me and let me smash him over the head with a bat first.
Yeah, the guy was a serious chunk of meat.
He had a brain also, he has a doctrate from a Scandanavian university if I'm not mistaken.
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
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hitmandonny
In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
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hitmandonny
In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
Lundgren was diesel back in the day. Hell, he's still ripped and he's gotta be in his 50s. I wouldn't mess with him. Unless he'd spot me and let me smash him over the head with a bat first.
Yeah, the guy was a serious chunk of meat.
He had a brain also, he has a doctrate from a Scandanavian university if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, I remember him on Arsenio saying he got a full scholarship to MIT. Jeesh, why not go for the trifecta and tell me he's got a huge schlonger and he's cramming my wife?
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Lundgren was diesel back in the day. Hell, he's still ripped and he's gotta be in his 50s. I wouldn't mess with him. Unless he'd spot me and let me smash him over the head with a bat first.
Yeah, the guy was a serious chunk of meat.
He had a brain also, he has a doctrate from a Scandanavian university if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, I remember him on Arsenio saying he got a full scholarship to MIT. Jeesh, why not go for the trifecta and tell me he's got a huge schlonger and he's cramming my wife?
Ha Ha, he seems like a cool guy.
He's no boxer though:)
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
Yeah, but by the time they filmed the last one no way was Stallone letting someone hit him for real. That house of cards would come tumbling right down. If Tarver hit him for real Stallone would need a colostomy bag. And the Morrison fight, if I'm not mistaken, was brief.
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I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
Yeah, but by the time they filmed the last one no way was Stallone letting someone hit him for real. That house of cards would come tumbling right down. If Tarver hit him for real Stallone would need a colostomy bag. And the Morrison fight, if I'm not mistaken, was brief.
Hell no, Stallone wasn't taking any punishment from a real boxer!
During the filming of "Rocky Balboa" he collapsed on set whilst doing the excercises, he may have been built but he wasn't in any way fit.
I heard he was asked to spar SRL before the Contender II as a gimmick and he chose not to.
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SRL would have made him look very sloppy. As sloppy as Hector Camacho made him look.
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I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
Yeah, but by the time they filmed the last one no way was Stallone letting someone hit him for real. That house of cards would come tumbling right down. If Tarver hit him for real Stallone would need a colostomy bag. And the Morrison fight, if I'm not mistaken, was brief.
Hell no, Stallone wasn't taking any punishment from a real boxer!
During the filming of "Rocky Balboa" he collapsed on set whilst doing the excercises, he may have been built but he wasn't in any way fit.
I heard he was asked to spar SRL before the Contender II as a gimmick and he chose not to.
Hmmm... I wonder why? ;D Leonard still keeps extremely fit. This is the reason he was able to make those comeback fights... A sparing session with Stalone would take Rocky's PR people ten years to clean up and by then he'll be 70;D
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Yeah, but by the time they filmed the last one no way was Stallone letting someone hit him for real. That house of cards would come tumbling right down. If Tarver hit him for real Stallone would need a colostomy bag. And the Morrison fight, if I'm not mistaken, was brief.
Hell no, Stallone wasn't taking any punishment from a real boxer!
During the filming of "Rocky Balboa" he collapsed on set whilst doing the excercises, he may have been built but he wasn't in any way fit.
I heard he was asked to spar SRL before the Contender II as a gimmick and he chose not to.
Hmmm... I wonder why? ;D Leonard still keeps extremely fit. This is the reason he was able to make those comeback fights... A sparing session with Stalone would take Rocky's PR people ten years to clean up and by then he'll be 70;D
Leonard's walking around below 160 and in the gym regularly.
not pumping weights like Stallone, he's hitting the bag and going through the motions still. He'd give any new up and comer problems!!!!
