Not The Same Old excuse Again........

Boxing News: Mayweather Jr. Defends Choice of De La Hoya Over Cotto

This article tells you all you need to know about floyd. I know the floyd lovers are gonna try to cover his ass again but this tells you all you need to know about the guys willingness to take the meaningful fights and his lack of respect for fighters of the past.

How can he compare himself to a guy like Ray Robinson saying things like "Well he wasn't undefeated" but the guy wasn't ducking the challenging fighters in their primes so he doesn't even stack up against guys like SRR.

His PPV numbers were not good until he fought DLH and Hatton so I'm not sure what he and ellerbe are talking about either. That's the way they try to fool the fans by fighting the same guys and making it seem like it's floyd that's the draw and the money guy.

These guys are delusional for real.

He is becoming more and more of a complete tool. Check out this quote:

“No disrespect to Sugar Ray Robinson,” Mayweather told Rotella. "But was he undefeated? Did he win six titles in five weight classes? I’ll be honest, boxing comes so easy to me I don’t even think about it. I’m here to entertain. . . . Work is work. I’m gonna make a lot of money, but this is also a learning stage of my life. I’m learning different ways to promote. Other fighters have to fight. I don’t have to fight. I already went through that stage when I fought 90 fights for free [amateur ranks]. I already proved it to myself. Once you reach pound for pound, you already proved everything.”

......."Im here to entertain".....join the circus...carnival barker.He could not carry Robinsons spit bucket.He is officially Diva # 2

What Ellerbe said makes perfect sense (which is usually rare)...but then Floyd opened his mouth and fucked it up. I hate when he compares himself to Sugar Ray Robinson and this stuff about 5 different weight classes. Didn't anyone tell him that some of those weight classes he won titles at didn't exist back in the day?
I can understand completely what they're saying about the Cotto fight not making 'business sense' and it being very high risk for little reward but I just wish he'd say fuck the money for one last fight and just silence all his critics by taking out Cotto.

Its a joke already. This guy has no respect for the sport that made him anymore.

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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Originally Posted by Rich R

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

Floyd will fight Cotto when Cotto becomes as big a star as he can be, after the Margarito fight and probably a couple more. If Cotto keeps winning then Floyd-Cotto becomes a far bigger commercial proposition in a year or so than it is now. Floyd only wants fights that are massive earners for him so that's why he's saying the things he's saying about DLH and why he'll do the same for a Hatton rematch. After those two massive money fights Floyd will fight and beat Cotto.

Here's a good article about him I just bumped into :

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/sp...yt&oref=slogin

What? Cotto need to be defeat for say that he is a real good Star now ?
I heard that times ago , probably when Cotto try to finish his career , maybe would say that he was real great Star...........:-\

I really hope nobody buys Mayweather-De la Hoya II, but I'm sure most of the idiotic general public will :mad:

I wish someone would ask Floyd, When has he carried a PPV card?

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Originally Posted by Rich R

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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Originally Posted by eagle

Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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I think most knew that once Judah fell to Cotto that that was the fight to be made and I would think the majority of fans would have rather seen Cotto-Mayweather then Hatton - Mayweather. Not that Hatton - Mayweather was a bad fight. But he has to fight Cotto imo it would be a fight unlike any he's ever had where he could completely silence every one of his critics. If he were to win it would be his best win imo. That's why so many want this fight because it would be another truly great fighter in his prime, can't get better then that.

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Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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I think most knew that once Judah fell to Cotto that that was the fight to be made and I would think the majority of fans would have rather seen Cotto-Mayweather then Hatton - Mayweather. Not that Hatton - Mayweather was a bad fight. But he has to fight Cotto imo it would be a fight unlike any he's ever had where he could completely silence every one of his critics. If he were to win it would be his best win imo. That's why so many want this fight because it would be another truly great fighter in his prime, can't get better then that.

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Until Mayweather wins and then The excuses are gonna come and then people are gonna talk about what Mayweather didn't do, then its gonna turn into he ducked and dodged margarito and then people are gonna find another opponent for him to fight.

Oscar was supposed to silence the critics, Hatton was supposed to silence the critics. It didn't. People just want Mayweather to lose so they can reach their pleasuring point and scream "HAH SEE HE'S OVERRATED!!! A SO-AND-SO COMPARE YOURSELF TO ROBINSON HAH YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT!"

Nobody will be happy with Mayweather till he loses.

There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Originally Posted by ono

There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Many boxing fans do not agree with you (on the PBF easily taking Cotto deal), or atleast I don't. I do agree that PBF has created himself a strong resume' of wins, and also that from a financial point ofview it is likely not in his best interest right now. But after the Cotto-margarito fight, and assuming Cotto wins it...then I believe he really has no choice if he wants to keep his legacy intact.

I don't think Cotto's are a dime a dozen, or Margarito's either for that matter. So if Cotto wins this thing, I believe he has to fight him. If he does not, Cotto will have by then raised enough interest and created enough question to his ability to beat PBF, that if he does not fight, it will be a black mark that by boxing enthusiasts will forever remain on that legacy.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by Rich R

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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He would get my respect and props.

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Originally Posted by ono

There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Vernon Forrest is number 1 at 154.

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Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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I think most knew that once Judah fell to Cotto that that was the fight to be made and I would think the majority of fans would have rather seen Cotto-Mayweather then Hatton - Mayweather. Not that Hatton - Mayweather was a bad fight. But he has to fight Cotto imo it would be a fight unlike any he's ever had where he could completely silence every one of his critics. If he were to win it would be his best win imo. That's why so many want this fight because it would be another truly great fighter in his prime, can't get better then that.

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Until Mayweather wins and then The excuses are gonna come and then people are gonna talk about what Mayweather didn't do, then its gonna turn into he ducked and dodged margarito and then people are gonna find another opponent for him to fight.

Oscar was supposed to silence the critics, Hatton was supposed to silence the critics. It didn't. People just want Mayweather to lose so they can reach their pleasuring point and scream "HAH SEE HE'S OVERRATED!!! A SO-AND-SO COMPARE YOURSELF TO ROBINSON HAH YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT!"

Nobody will be happy with Mayweather till he loses.

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Hey Majestic , i dont want say you , but theres people that think the same for Cotto , That he need to be defeat for then to say that he was good and happy................:cool:
I agree with Amats.............

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There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Every fighter worth there weight believes that they can beat the best,as well as the fans...thats what keeps us going.Who has Oscar rated 1st at 154?You can not deny Mayweathers accomplishments and skills but resting on a Resume fighting fellow promoters in a little demanded Rematch just don't cut it.The SD is a good buyline but this is about the payday ...serious.To solidify and embed his legacy at Welterweight...He Needs to fight the winner of Cotto/Margarito,regardless if King Midas Mayweather deems them worthy.

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I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

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Ok -

Can he ever be as great as he thinks he is? Can he ever be as great as he says he is?It's one thing to go around proclaiming you're the best fighter of all time, but, unfortunately, that's a claim that requires proof. His resume is very solid, and I don't dispute the fact that he is one of the best boxers around today.

But to mention yourself in the same breath as Robinson, you first need to fight all legitimate contenders. We all know Mayweather has played the matchmaking game very well. And before you accuse me of accusing Floyd of ducking so and so, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that to live up to the hype, he needs to fight Cotto. He needs to fight Margarito. He needs to fight the legitimate contenders at each of these weight classes he's bragging about winning titles in, instead of picking and choosing opposition. Fight all of them, at least the legitimate contenders.

Would he win all these fights? Very possibly - it's certainly not an unbelievable proposition. But until he actually backs up his boasting, he's never going to be the greatest of all time, for me personally. He'll be just another outstanding boxer who will always have a lot of what ifs following him around.

What if Floyd actually lived up to his potential, instead of running his mouth and fighting for money instead of legacy?

Then he might be able to make a convincing case to being the best fighter ever. For now - not even close.

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Originally Posted by ono

There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.

Back then in the 40's/50's there was no such thing as "SUPER WELTERWEIGHT, SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT" weight classes.

he claims he's the best fighter of all times when he hasn't proved anything, it took him 5-6 years to reach a PPV event, just because he fought odlh it doesn't make him G.O.A.T .

who would want this idiot in the hof? smh

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Originally Posted by Rich R

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

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Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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Let's get one thing straight here. Only brits thought that Hatton could beat Floyd no one else.

If Floyd don't want to face top opposition anymore that's fine with me (he will do Boxing a favor). Go and be a DIVA and he will fail.

As far as him fighting Cotto if he doesn't then fuck it we just can't make him do it.

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Originally Posted by ono

There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.

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For the hope of seeing mayweather-cotto i didnt want this fight to happen, but as a boxing fan who actually enjoyed seeing the close run first fight im more than happy to see this fight go down.

Cotto and perhaps mosley apart i genuinely cannot name a fight for Floyd that would both be a viable and worthy contest to take on than a rematch with ODLH who came closer than anyone ever has to beating PBF.

Its not ODLH`s fault floyd only chooses to fight once a year now
Its not ODLH`s fault team mayweather didnt choose instead to fight miguel
Its not ODLH`s fault since the time frame of their last contest nobody has stepped up to the plate to make Mayweather consider any other fight than this one

Dont blame GBP for not making mayweather-cotto as im quite sure ODLH being the smart businessman would happily of steped aside to promote this one if it meant a few extra bucks in the bank balance.

Floyd-cotto isnt happening because just right now floyd doesnt want it to happen!!!

Floyd says stupid shit cause we sit here and talk about it. I'll say it again floyd loves money...that's mainly it. And it just so happens that he can make all that money boxing. Stop falling for the hype, all floyd is doing is selling ppv's. Look ahead to the future cause you know he is. This artlcles are doing exactly what floyd wants them to do. Everyone hates floyd but yet we all buy his fights....get the picture ?? I'm guilty as well. I hate to say it but floyd is getting into all our pockets while we sit here bitch and take 60 out of our acct and put it into his. The shit he says in this artlcle is riddiculous and if he really belives this crap then everyone accept my apology cause yes all the bad rep he gets would be deserved and i'd be there throwing the first stone at him. But if you really look at the big picture this fool is an actor and human atm machine. He'd fight rodger if we'd pay enough. Cotto and tony etc....i belive even know this, and have decided to stay busy instead of wasting time trying to push ahead floyds schedule. We all know the fight is going to happen eventually and like said earlier if beats the winner of those two, people will just start this all over with someone new.

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There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.

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Hey Liquid , im happy to see somebody from the otherside that is a real Realistic .................:thumb:

It's infuriating that this fight is not being made. There's no point in a Mayweather-ODLH rematch. ODLH will just run out of steam and get outboxed again. This will be THE only fight at 147 if Cotto beats Tony. It will get to a point I hope where Floyd will have no choice to fight Cotto.

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I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

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I just don't understand SOME of floyds fans in here. Did you guys just fall in love with what he says or what?

As a fan Cotto, I would be hurt, hold on let me correct myself, I would be crushed if he lost a fight. That being said, I don't want him to avoid fighting guys that can conceivably beat him. That's the mark or greatness right there: Taking On All The Top Challenges

It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.

Believe me, If floyd didn't realize that he's cheating the sport (especially his own fans) he and his team wouldn't keep explaining themselves about why they're not fighting the top guys of TODAY.

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And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.[/quote]



For the hope of seeing mayweather-cotto i didnt want this fight to happen, but as a boxing fan who actually enjoyed seeing the close run first fight im more than happy to see this fight go down.

Cotto and perhaps mosley apart i genuinely cannot name a fight for Floyd that would both be a viable and worthy contest to take on than a rematch with ODLH who came closer than anyone ever has to beating PBF.

Its not ODLH`s fault floyd only chooses to fight once a year now
Its not ODLH`s fault team mayweather didnt choose instead to fight miguel
Its not ODLH`s fault since the time frame of their last contest nobody has stepped up to the plate to make Mayweather consider any other fight than this one

Dont blame GBP for not making mayweather-cotto as im quite sure ODLH being the smart businessman would happily of steped aside to promote this one if it meant a few extra bucks in the bank balance.

Floyd-cotto isnt happening because just right now floyd doesnt want it to happen!!![/quote]

You're missing my point: I'm not blaming ODH--I'm blaming him AND Mayweather. Oscar for not being the force that his fans prop him up to be and Mayweather for falling over into every vat of cash that comes his way. He could still make a ton of dough against Cotto- not Mosley, but that's a dismissible match. But how do you justify fighting the p4p champ when you haven't beaten anyone on any kind of radar in over half a decade? Oscar fans, or people who plunk down PPV dollars to see him, are suckers.

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

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It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.
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Oh no don't get me wrong i'm supremely confident that Floyd whoops Cotto every day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that doesn't stop me being dissapointed that the fight hasn't happened yet. I say yet because just like Mar said..i'm sure it will happen. Once Cotto is worth enough, and he will be soon, then it's on.
My only concern is that Floyd waits too long and shifts the balance of the fight into Cotto's favour. Floyd's not exactly a spring chicken and he's a fighter who relies heavily on reflexes. They'll be the first thing to go..That's my only concern. Otherwise I forsee a victory for PBF.

I mostly agree. Floyd is at his earning peak. Why not go with DLH again for the most money possible? He has to raise his star power so that when he fights guys who might not be on his level from a box office standpoint, they'll be coming after him, making it more compelling. It's just smart business no matter how much fans don't want to see him and DLH again.

I think the dynamics of their second fight make it interesting or at least, the build up interesting.

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

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It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.

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Oh no don't get me wrong i'm supremely confident that Floyd whoops Cotto every day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that doesn't stop me being dissapointed that the fight hasn't happened yet. I say yet because just like Mar said..i'm sure it will happen. Once Cotto is worth enough, and he will be soon, then it's on.
My only concern is that Floyd waits too long and shifts the balance of the fight into Cotto's favour. Floyd's not exactly a spring chicken and he's a fighter who relies heavily on reflexes. They'll be the first thing to go..That's my only concern. Otherwise I forsee a victory for PBF.

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I respect your opinion if you feel floyd can beat Cotto but I feel exactly the same as you only reversing the fighters names.

Cotto has been a beast at WW and floyd has been ducking all the top names. You just can't continue to cal yourself the best and do what he does. The fight is THE fight in boxing right now.

If you can tell me of a bigger fight than that then you are truly a boxing god.

No other fight is as significant, important or puts two fighters that good and in their primes.

I've been watching boxing a long time and I can tell you that this is not something that comes along too often when you have an opportunity to see such a good matchup and neither guy has any built in excuses like age, weight etc....

This has to happen now before it becomes insignificant.

I'd like to tape Floyd's mouth shut sometimes, but he is the best right now. And, is it just me, or does some of the Cotto fans here seem to be more of Floyd haters than true Cotto fans? Alot seem to not even recognize that Cotto is fighting Tony, they are just quick to jump at someone who might have a chance of beating Floyd, and they think that person is Cotto, and people want to talk about Floyd fans. I'd like to choke Floyd for not taking this fight yet, regardless of what he has done, or his earnings, I'm sick of hearing it. For the record, I wouldn't pass up the chance for the money against Oscar, but then again, I haven't already earned what Floyd has earned. I like both fighters, and I'm all for the fight, but Cotto's 0, will go, if it hasn't already.

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Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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I think most knew that once Judah fell to Cotto that that was the fight to be made and I would think the majority of fans would have rather seen Cotto-Mayweather then Hatton - Mayweather. Not that Hatton - Mayweather was a bad fight. But he has to fight Cotto imo it would be a fight unlike any he's ever had where he could completely silence every one of his critics. If he were to win it would be his best win imo. That's why so many want this fight because it would be another truly great fighter in his prime, can't get better then that.

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Until Mayweather wins and then The excuses are gonna come and then people are gonna talk about what Mayweather didn't do, then its gonna turn into he ducked and dodged margarito and then people are gonna find another opponent for him to fight.

Oscar was supposed to silence the critics, Hatton was supposed to silence the critics. It didn't. People just want Mayweather to lose so they can reach their pleasuring point and scream "HAH SEE HE'S OVERRATED!!! A SO-AND-SO COMPARE YOURSELF TO ROBINSON HAH YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT!"

Nobody will be happy with Mayweather till he loses.

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Or until he shuts up. His mouth ruins it for me. I don't mind trash talking, but he is ridiculous. He really has performed, made good decisions in bad situations (Judah) but he ruins it when he talks himself up. If he were humble everyone would be calling him an atg.... instead he keeps saying it himself..

ok not taking away anything from Floyd (cause IMO Oscar isn't shot by no means), but how can some people call DLH a shot fighter now, and yet use him to boost Mayweather into this mythical-like figure, Cotto IMO is Mayweather's Frazier, his big moment, a win against him and everything Cotto represents, will leave Mayweather as a p4p top 5 of all times without a doubt

Ive gotta say having no real affiliation with either fighter and having seen both fight countless times id strongly lean towards a cotto points win if they ever met.

PBF is great at what he does, probably one of the greatest exponents of the counter punch of all time, cotto on the other hand is one of the smartest fighters in boxing and more often than not knows when to counter, when to jab etc.

He hasnt gotten that from being supremely intelligent to every other fighter, its just all come with experience and to miguel the ring is his home.

I just could not for the life of me see how floyd would either knock cotto out or throw enough punches to take a points win.

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The fight is THE fight in boxing right now.

If you can tell me of a bigger fight than that then you are truly a boxing god.

No other fight is as significant, important or puts two fighters that good and in their primes.

I've been watching boxing a long time and I can tell you that this is not something that comes along too often when you have an opportunity to see such a good matchup and neither guy has any built in excuses like age, weight etc....

This has to happen now before it becomes insignificant.

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I agree with you completely there.

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.