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    Default Re: Not The Same Old excuse Again........

    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.

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    Default Re: Not The Same Old excuse Again........

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Many boxing fans do not agree with you (on the PBF easily taking Cotto deal), or atleast I don't. I do agree that PBF has created himself a strong resume' of wins, and also that from a financial point ofview it is likely not in his best interest right now. But after the Cotto-margarito fight, and assuming Cotto wins it...then I believe he really has no choice if he wants to keep his legacy intact.

    I don't think Cotto's are a dime a dozen, or Margarito's either for that matter. So if Cotto wins this thing, I believe he has to fight him. If he does not, Cotto will have by then raised enough interest and created enough question to his ability to beat PBF, that if he does not fight, it will be a black mark that by boxing enthusiasts will forever remain on that legacy.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Vernon Forrest is number 1 at 154.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Every fighter worth there weight believes that they can beat the best,as well as the fans...thats what keeps us going.Who has Oscar rated 1st at 154?You can not deny Mayweathers accomplishments and skills but resting on a Resume fighting fellow promoters in a little demanded Rematch just don't cut it.The SD is a good buyline but this is about the payday ...serious.To solidify and embed his legacy at Welterweight...He Needs to fight the winner of Cotto/Margarito,regardless if King Midas Mayweather deems them worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.


    For the hope of seeing mayweather-cotto i didnt want this fight to happen, but as a boxing fan who actually enjoyed seeing the close run first fight im more than happy to see this fight go down.

    Cotto and perhaps mosley apart i genuinely cannot name a fight for Floyd that would both be a viable and worthy contest to take on than a rematch with ODLH who came closer than anyone ever has to beating PBF.

    Its not ODLH`s fault floyd only chooses to fight once a year now
    Its not ODLH`s fault team mayweather didnt choose instead to fight miguel
    Its not ODLH`s fault since the time frame of their last contest nobody has stepped up to the plate to make Mayweather consider any other fight than this one

    Dont blame GBP for not making mayweather-cotto as im quite sure ODLH being the smart businessman would happily of steped aside to promote this one if it meant a few extra bucks in the bank balance.

    Floyd-cotto isnt happening because just right now floyd doesnt want it to happen!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.[/quote]



    For the hope of seeing mayweather-cotto i didnt want this fight to happen, but as a boxing fan who actually enjoyed seeing the close run first fight im more than happy to see this fight go down.

    Cotto and perhaps mosley apart i genuinely cannot name a fight for Floyd that would both be a viable and worthy contest to take on than a rematch with ODLH who came closer than anyone ever has to beating PBF.

    Its not ODLH`s fault floyd only chooses to fight once a year now
    Its not ODLH`s fault team mayweather didnt choose instead to fight miguel
    Its not ODLH`s fault since the time frame of their last contest nobody has stepped up to the plate to make Mayweather consider any other fight than this one

    Dont blame GBP for not making mayweather-cotto as im quite sure ODLH being the smart businessman would happily of steped aside to promote this one if it meant a few extra bucks in the bank balance.

    Floyd-cotto isnt happening because just right now floyd doesnt want it to happen!!![/quote]

    You're missing my point: I'm not blaming ODH--I'm blaming him AND Mayweather. Oscar for not being the force that his fans prop him up to be and Mayweather for falling over into every vat of cash that comes his way. He could still make a ton of dough against Cotto- not Mosley, but that's a dismissible match. But how do you justify fighting the p4p champ when you haven't beaten anyone on any kind of radar in over half a decade? Oscar fans, or people who plunk down PPV dollars to see him, are suckers.

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    de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.
    i disagree completely, i think Golden Boy Promotions has only tried to make the best fights possible as of late, Pacquiao/Marquez II is a big showing of this, as well as Cotto/Mosley and a bunch of other fights put together with talent from other big promotion companies (especially Top Rank)

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    My problem with Golden Boy is...well I have a few. And that sucks because I was so high on Golden Boy and really thought they were going to revolutionize boxing. However, it looks like they have become just another promotion company which sucks.

    For one, he hasn't done those things he said he would do in the leadup to Barrera-Juarez II in making a boxing summit, pushing for a national commission and all that stuff to advance the sport.

    He hasn't done enough developing of his prospects. Barely any shows off TV and the only time his prospects get a chance to fight is on the undercards of big events. Those aren't often enough.

    And I really am uneasy about his acquisition of The Ring, just seems like a conflict of interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    There is always going to be a fighter out there who some believe would beat Floyd. After Cotto, there will be somebody else.

    For people criticizing the re-match with ODLH, you have to bare in mind the first fight was a SD and Floyd is ranked 1st at 147 with Oscar 1st at 154. I don't see the problem.

    And Floyd is right, he doesn't even need to fight Cotto. He's pretty much built his legacy already. He has a lot of very good wins on his resume. Sure Cotto would be a great addition.....but i've already made my mind up about him. He's proved all he can ever prove to me. I see no way how Cotto could ever beat him.....or any other fighter today to be honest.
    Well I'm a HUGE Mayweather fan and I have to say I'm disappointed he's taking on De La Hoya again. The first one was enough for me. Even though it was a SD win for PBF, it wasn't interesting enough to do it again. Miguel Cotto is a huge draw, RIGHT NOW, and unlike Margarito, whom pretty much nobody knew, save for a few cadre of fans, Cotto has a huge fan base. Mayweather would not be carrying the card like he would have with Margarito. A fight with Cotto would probably make almost as much money as his fight with Hatton. I know Oscar puts butts in seats, but at this point he doesn't deserve it. Oscar has not beaten a significant opponent in more than five years. Vernon Forrest is a more legit 154 lber than Oscar. I seriously hope De La Hoya gets put unconscious for the first time only because I want his status lowered so he has to get out of the way of the top guys at 147 and 154. Oscar does not deserve to be there and maybe if he gets humiliated in the ring fans won't want to see him as much.
    Hey Liquid , im happy to see somebody from the otherside that is a real Realistic .................

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    It's infuriating that this fight is not being made. There's no point in a Mayweather-ODLH rematch. ODLH will just run out of steam and get outboxed again. This will be THE only fight at 147 if Cotto beats Tony. It will get to a point I hope where Floyd will have no choice to fight Cotto.

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    Back then in the 40's/50's there was no such thing as "SUPER WELTERWEIGHT, SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT" weight classes.

    he claims he's the best fighter of all times when he hasn't proved anything, it took him 5-6 years to reach a PPV event, just because he fought odlh it doesn't make him G.O.A.T .

    who would want this idiot in the hof? smh
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    Floyd says stupid shit cause we sit here and talk about it. I'll say it again floyd loves money...that's mainly it. And it just so happens that he can make all that money boxing. Stop falling for the hype, all floyd is doing is selling ppv's. Look ahead to the future cause you know he is. This artlcles are doing exactly what floyd wants them to do. Everyone hates floyd but yet we all buy his fights....get the picture ?? I'm guilty as well. I hate to say it but floyd is getting into all our pockets while we sit here bitch and take 60 out of our acct and put it into his. The shit he says in this artlcle is riddiculous and if he really belives this crap then everyone accept my apology cause yes all the bad rep he gets would be deserved and i'd be there throwing the first stone at him. But if you really look at the big picture this fool is an actor and human atm machine. He'd fight rodger if we'd pay enough. Cotto and tony etc....i belive even know this, and have decided to stay busy instead of wasting time trying to push ahead floyds schedule. We all know the fight is going to happen eventually and like said earlier if beats the winner of those two, people will just start this all over with someone new.
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    ok not taking away anything from Floyd (cause IMO Oscar isn't shot by no means), but how can some people call DLH a shot fighter now, and yet use him to boost Mayweather into this mythical-like figure, Cotto IMO is Mayweather's Frazier, his big moment, a win against him and everything Cotto represents, will leave Mayweather as a p4p top 5 of all times without a doubt

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