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Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
Graham Houston spoke to them both following the fight and this is their opinion :-
"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."
"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."
"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"
"He retreated. He went down on one knee on his own and that's a sign of retreat. 'I dont want no more'. Said Floyd Snr.
"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "
"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."
"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."
Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".
"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."
At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony :p
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i hate to say it but i think hes right on most things cotto should have been more in shape he should have been ready to go all 12 rounds maybe he should have sparred a little more against bigger partners i think it would have helped more
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Originally Posted by
Markusdarkus
Graham Houston spoke to them both following the fight and this is their opinion :-
"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."
"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."
"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"
"He retreated. He went down on one knee on his own and that's a sign of retreat. 'I dont want no more'. Said Floyd Snr.
"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "
"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."
"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."
Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".
"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."
At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony :p
He has some good points!
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Top top class fighters should be able to go 15 hard fought rounds if they want to cut it with the elite.
Reason why i and my mates all had so much money on toni stopping him was a his dodgy chin, but mainly coz the he tires badly...
Look at pretty much every 12 round fight wtih except the urkal one and you see cotto slipping in the later rounds and letting the other guy in, toni never stops and was in the end going to break him.
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Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no
chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".
Can't box? I disagree. Cotto has the jab, punching power, body punch, etc. As for the chin, defense, stamina, etc. That, he can improve.
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"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."
Yep! He ain't saying that so far and it makes a lot of sense why.
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At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony
But didn’t have the guts to fight Mayweather ;) .
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"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."
Comparing fatigue to a coward? Is he selling his drugs or is he smoking his shiet and not making a profit again?
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"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."
Didn't Israel Vazquez quit after the seventh round against Rafael Marquez becuase Israel Vazquez was unable to breath due to a broken nose? I guess this also makes Israel Vazquez a coward and a fighter who can't go twelve rounds, right?
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"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"
There was a whole hell of a lot of pressure. He was a cunt hair away from getting knocked out. Floyd would have ran all night from Tony and Floyd would have landed one or two pop shot's per round if that.
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"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "
This dumbazz can say all he wants but it was little Floyd who never wanted anything to do with Antonio Margarito, so much so, that Floyd retired because of his fear of Tony.
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"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."
Against an OLD Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd may have hit Oscar 25 times the entire fight. You call that banging? One of thee most boring over priced fights I have ever seen.
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"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."
It would be an easy fight for Antonio Margarito and that is why Floyd did not want to fight Tony.
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Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".
Cotto can box. He was boxing Tony's head off, there are so many great clips from that fight, that it would take me months to put them all down on video, as you can see the video I made was only rounds 1 & 2 because I did not have enough time by YouTube's standards to add anything more. 100 MBS the limit but I will finish it as time permits. It would take me a day to put together a best of Floyd vs Hatton/ODLH there is nothing but that one lucky punch knock out. Cotto is for the most part a one handed fighter but he used more Combos in this fight than Floyd has in his last 4 fights. Cotto has a pretty good chin. Cintron was knocked out in 7? It's not the chin that failed Cotto, it was Tony's relentless body attack and the broken nose that slowed Cotto down. No excuses, that is a fact CHINO.
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"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."
There will be a rematch! Cotto is going to fight the man who Floyd is scared shitless of again. Floyd is still hidding, I bet Floyd is somewhere in China right about now. Floyd is not only a coward, he is now a punk where his own friends are just walking into his house and taking his shiet. ;D
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lol at the people saying Cotto wasnt in shape.
Biggest fight of his life and he wasnt in shape? common man what next, the ropes were loose?
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Originally Posted by
Markusdarkus
Graham Houston spoke to them both following the fight and this is their opinion :-
"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."
"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."
"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"
"He retreated. He went down on one knee on his own and that's a sign of retreat. 'I dont want no more'. Said Floyd Snr.
"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "
"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."
"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."
Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".
"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."
At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony :p
Houston should have asked Daddy why Little Floyd ducked fighting Margarito. I know. Cause he knew if he fought tony he'd get same treatment as Cotto cept Floyd would quit sooner
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C.J.Rock
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Originally Posted by
Markusdarkus
Graham Houston spoke to them both following the fight and this is their opinion :-
"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."
"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."
"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"
"He retreated. He went down on one knee on his own and that's a sign of retreat. 'I dont want no more'. Said Floyd Snr.
"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "
"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."
"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."
Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".
"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."
At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony :p
Houston should have asked Daddy why Little Floyd ducked fighting Margarito. I know. Cause he knew if he fought tony he'd get same treatment as Cotto cept Floyd would quit sooner
Don't bet on it bud just because Antonio Margarito defeated Miguel Cotto doesn't erase his flaws like his slow movement, slow handspeed, wide punches, and with Floyd Mayweather being an excellent counter puncher aswell as a good mover and having great defense he should clearly outbox Antonio Margarito over 12 rounds.
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There was a whole hell of a lot of pressure. He was a cunt hair away from getting knocked out. Floyd would have ran all night from Tony and Floyd would have landed one or two pop shot's per round if that.
Floyd would run all night, no doubt, but he'd do what Cotto didn't do.. WIN THE FIGHT!! No where in that article did they say he'd stand toe to toe with Tony, they said he wouldn't tire (which is true)..
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Against an OLD Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd may have hit Oscar 25 times the entire fight. You call that banging? One of thee most boring over priced fights I have ever seen.
Boring is irrelevant.. the game is hit and not get hit, and win fights.. this is what Floyd does.. you can bet your last penny that if other boxers were as talented and athletic as Floyd then they would use his defensive tactics also.. It's only logical.. would I rather block with my gloves and absorb shots, or not get hit at all.. REAL tough question.. No doubt has Floyd had some "boring" fights, but he wins, and when people in the future talk about him they can only label him unbeaten.. They can't say the same for Cotto.
yes an OLD De La Hoya, but Corrales was 33-0, with something like 26-27 KO's.. Comparable in height and reach to Tony, with a TON of power and SEVENTEEN POUNDS LIGHTER.. I'd say that's pretty damn comparable to Tony.. The only difference is Corrales was chinny, and clearly that is not the case for margarito.. regardless Corrales had more speed than Tony, and he couldn't touch Floyd.. the only difference in the fight would be that it would go 12 and he wouldn't TKO him.
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Like it or not, the Predator and his balding brother have some good points. I dont agree with the assessment of Cotto being a coward though, I think he had a just cause to give in
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Danny_G
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There was a whole hell of a lot of pressure. He was a cunt hair away from getting knocked out. Floyd would have ran all night from Tony and Floyd would have landed one or two pop shot's per round if that.
Floyd would run all night, no doubt, but he'd do what Cotto didn't do..
WIN THE FIGHT!! No where in that article did they say he'd stand toe to toe with Tony, they said he wouldn't tire (which is true)..
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Against an OLD Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd may have hit Oscar 25 times the entire fight. You call that banging? One of thee most boring over priced fights I have ever seen.
Boring is irrelevant.. the game is hit and not get hit, and win fights.. this is what Floyd does.. you can bet your last penny that if other boxers were as talented and athletic as Floyd then they would use his defensive tactics also.. It's only logical.. would I rather block with my gloves and absorb shots, or not get hit at all.. REAL tough question.. No doubt has Floyd had some "boring" fights, but he wins, and when people in the future talk about him they can only label him unbeaten.. They can't say the same for Cotto.
yes an OLD De La Hoya, but Corrales was 33-0, with something like 26-27 KO's.. Comparable in height and reach to Tony, with a TON of power and SEVENTEEN POUNDS LIGHTER.. I'd say that's pretty damn comparable to Tony.. The only difference is Corrales was chinny, and clearly that is not the case for margarito.. regardless Corrales had more speed than Tony, and he couldn't touch Floyd.. the only difference in the fight would be that it would go 12 and he wouldn't TKO him.
To be honest i don't find many of Floyd Mayweather's fights boring only a few like Carlos Baldomir fight but other than that he usually entertaining check out his wars with Jesus Chavez, Phillip Ndou.
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It reminds me of when a group of guys come home alone from a bar explaining to the one guy who actually had the courage to make a move on the hot chick all the things he did did wrong and how they would have succeeded if they had tried. Sometimes it's easier to sleep at night telling yourself I could have done it 'IF'. Instead of having the balls to take a chance and risk failure.
Cotto - Margarito was one of the few pay per views I've gotten in the last couple of years that at the end of the night even my wife didn't think I wasted my money. There are fighters and then there are warriors. For anyone outside the ring to point out flaws in either's performance is pointless to me.
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ICB
To be honest i don't find many of Floyd Mayweather's fights boring only a few like Carlos Baldomir fight but other than that he usually entertaining check out his wars with Jesus Chavez, Phillip Ndou.
oh, i agree completely with you.. that's why i put "boring" in quotations.. that is how people describe him, i feel completely different..
undefeated, 5 class world champ, previously the undisputed P4P #1 in the world, oh and rich as hell..
you could call me whatever you want.. i'm doing something right.
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frasd
It reminds me of when a group of guys come home alone from a bar explaining to the one guy who actually had the courage to make a move on the hot chick all the things he did did wrong and how they would have succeeded if they had tried. Sometimes it's easier to sleep at night telling yourself I could have done it 'IF'. Instead of having the balls to take a chance and risk failure.
Cotto - Margarito was one of the few pay per views I've gotten in the last couple of years that at the end of the night even my wife didn't think I wasted my money. There are fighters and then there are warriors. For anyone outside the ring to point out flaws in either's performance is pointless to me.
so what you're saying is that sports analysts, in general, are pointless.. We all on this forum, are pointless..
right..
that was a pretty bad comparison.. I mean, first off most sports analyst's used to be boxers.. most trainers used to be boxers.. a lot of people on this forum, are boxers or have boxed..
with the whole trying to get a girl comparison, chances are if you're criticizing someone for their attempt to get a girl, you would at least have some credibility. meaning, you, yourself have gotten girls or at least have attempted to get girls.. otherwise who cares what you are talking about.. If some fag told me that i'm terrible at getting girls, then i have something to say about that..
But lets face it Roger Mayweather had a pro career.. Floyd Mayweather had a pro career.. and i don't think everyone on this board is a fag (see what i did there ;)).. Needless to say both mayweathers, and the majority of posters on here, have plenty of knowledge of the sport, and aren't pointless.. otherwise, why did you sign up to this site? just to keep posting the same comparison in every thread? If you posted anything relevant to a boxer you'd be a hipocrite.. no? :confused:
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I think maybe you misunderstood. Regarding people having an opinion, I wasn't saying that people commenting or analyzing the fight are irrelavent although I guess that's how it came across. I was saying that ,for me, I don't listen to criticism of the fighters after that one because I just want to remember t for what it was. A great fight.
In terms of the whole picking up chicks reference I'm saying that it amuses me when people who don't have the guts to try critisizing those who do.
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It would be an easy fight for Antonio Margarito and that is why Floyd did not want to fight Tony.
I wish I could agree but if there was ever a Margarito vs Mayweather, I can see something similar to what we saw when Mayweather got in the ring with Baldomir and Gatti.
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Cotto has a pretty good chin
Not so sure about that. In almost EVERY fight, he gets rocked and almost saved by the referee (I believe that fight should have been stopped).
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Cintron was knocked out in 7? It's not the chin that failed Cotto, it was Tony's relentless body attack and the broken nose that slowed Cotto down. No excuses, that is a fact CHINO.
Kermit who? When he faced a champion in his prime, he failed. Somewhat similar to Cotto when he also faced a champion in his prime, he failed, failed badly. Yep Danny_G, no excuses or "what ifs". Tony showed to be the better man that night.
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There will be a rematch! Cotto is going to fight the man who Floyd is scared shitless of again.
A rematch? Oh no :( . Overrated or not, I like Cotto and I wouldn't want to see him leave the ring in the same condition he did before. I can understand a rematch when the fight is close, competitive, went back/forth the whole time, a close or questionable decision, etc.
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undefeated, 5 class world champ, previously the undisputed P4P #1 in the world, oh and rich as hell..
Not the richest guy in boxing but yeah, he's up there.
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Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.
ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.
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Chino
Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.
ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.
You are just a stupid selective little biatch of a quoter. Selective quoting me always. Address all the issues, or don't quote me at all you buster.
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Chino
Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.
ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.
Danny is a little girl and he neg reps anyone who says anything bad about Cotto..
I hear he has this great boxing knowledge but all he posts about is how he dislikes Floyd and how he is in love with Cotto.. Oh, and he makes threads about other posters and gets all creative with his picture editing programs and tries to embarrass people..
If all else fails, he will ignore you (like he did with me).. He can't take the heat, and i think it's funny..
I mean, i "like" peter manfredo, cause he's from my hometown, and i root for him, but i know the caliber fighter he is, and don't make him to be anything more.. i'm not about to neg rep anyone who says he is "trash" "horrible" etc, because it's simply their opinion.. At least Cotto is a great fighter, that is WELL documented via PPV fights, you don't need to neg rep people who speak negative about him..
to be clear, i could absolutely care less about my rep, i just think it's funny that posters actually get under Danny's skin enough for him to neg rep them.. I think the only time i neg rep anyone is when someone says something absolutely racist, or when someone makes a thread of "Wlad Klitschko (or any fighter) is the best and all you faggetZ are dum 4 not realizin this.. he'll kill any1!!"
to each their own, i suppose.
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RP33
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Originally Posted by
Chino
Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.
ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.
Danny is a little girl and he neg reps anyone who says anything bad about Cotto..
I hear he has this great boxing knowledge but all he posts about is how he dislikes Floyd and how he is in love with Cotto.. Oh, and he makes threads about other posters and gets all creative with his picture editing programs and tries to embarrass people..
If all else fails, he will ignore you (like he did with me).. He can't take the heat, and i think it's funny..
I mean, i "like" peter manfredo, cause he's from my hometown, and i root for him, but i know the caliber fighter he is, and don't make him to be anything more.. i'm not about to neg rep anyone who says he is "trash" "horrible" etc, because it's simply their opinion.. At least Cotto is a great fighter, that is WELL documented via PPV fights, you don't need to neg rep people who speak negative about him..
to be clear, i could absolutely care less about my rep, i just think it's funny that posters actually get under Danny's skin enough for him to neg rep them.. I think the only time i neg rep anyone is when someone says something absolutely racist, or when someone makes a thread of "Wlad Klitschko (or any fighter) is the best and all you faggetZ are dum 4 not realizin this.. he'll kill any1!!"
to each their own, i suppose.
Phuk Peter Manscaredo Jr
Phuk You
and Phuk the Klit'hoes Sisters.
:lickish:
Oh and phuk the dark side too.
You little wanna be gang member. On Line E-Thug. lol
Pendejos.
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Just to let you know your scarface reference didn't go unnoticed.
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Besides saying Cotto didn't hit Margarito as hard as FLoyd would I agree with everything, FLoyd would be a lot harder to keep on the ropes, Margarito would be landing maybe 10% of his punches, and less then 5% of the meaningful ones.
I stated I was dissapointed Cotto gave up, Watch Holyfield against Quawi, it wasn't just an iron chin that got him through, it was determination. I think the Peurto Rican fighters all have great skill, and even better power, but I see a common flaw, and thats that they are not as tough as the mexicans or the best americans. You see it when Chavez fought Rosario or when Gomez fought Sanchez, Cotto against Margarito, Tito vs Hopkins
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Danny_G
Phuk Peter Manscaredo Jr
Phuk You
and Phuk the Klit'hoes Sisters.
:lickish:
Oh and phuk the dark side too.
You little wanna be gang member. On Line E-Thug. lol
Pendejos.
it was funny when you had Old Guard in your name, and then the Old Guard were ashamed of you and your immature posts, and kept saying "Danny doesn't have Old Guard in his avatar anymore" and then you finally took it out..
you neg repped me and said i "talk shit".. the only person on here who talks more shit than you, is VD, yet VD is about 300% less serious than you, and it's funny as hell when he rags on someone..
here's one that you'll understand, considering you only seem to care about two fighters.. You telling me i talk shit is like floyd telling cotto he runs too much in a fight.. :cool:
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Taeth
Besides saying Cotto didn't hit Margarito as hard as FLoyd would I agree with everything, FLoyd would be a lot harder to keep on the ropes, Margarito would be landing maybe 10% of his punches, and less then 5% of the meaningful ones.
I stated I was dissapointed Cotto gave up, Watch Holyfield against Quawi, it wasn't just an iron chin that got him through, it was determination. I think the Peurto Rican fighters all have great skill, and even better power, but I see a common flaw, and thats that they are not as tough as the mexicans or the best americans. You see it when Chavez fought Rosario or when Gomez fought Sanchez, Cotto against Margarito, Tito vs Hopkins
Camacho had no power.
Tito beat the shiet out of Vargas.
You compare the ammount of Puerto Ricans to the ammount of Mexicans?
Puerto Rico — Population:
3,944,259 (July 2007 est.)
Mexico — Population:
108,700,891 (July 2007 est.)
I am Mexican and I am proud of it but I wont deny the little Island and not give them their props. With those kinds of numbers, how can I deny them respect?
;)
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Chino
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At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony
But didn’t have the guts to fight Mayweather ;) .
Explain?
I assume (because there was never any offer from floyd) you're going to say because he didn't call out Floyd which of course is silly, not as silly as you saying things like "Cotto gets rocked almost every fight" but pretty fucking silly. Cotto doesn't call people out, he didn't call out Mosley, and he didn't call out Margarito but strangely enough he ended up fighting them.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
Why are you guys fighting? Danny_g is an instigator, but Chino is saying stuff like Cotto has a bad chin when only 3 guys have hurt him, Corley, Torres(a hard hitter), and Judah(who hits hard as well). He didn't really get hurt by any one punch against Margarito and not at all against Mosley(that one time people are talking about he slipped on a wet spot that Mosley slips on afterwards). So either Margarito can't hit as hard as Torres, Judah, or Demarcus, or Cotto has a respectable chin, and he just quit in that fight.
I see his earlier tough fights, and he didn't quit, and I believe its because he was in better shape against Abdullaev and Ndou. Against MArgarito he wasn't throwing a whole lot of punches, and he wasn't standing his ground at all, the few times he did he was able to momentarily back Margarito up, and that is the only way you will get effective body work done, when you are slipping punches on the rope you can't get the leverage you need to land those hard body shots.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
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Originally Posted by
RP33
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Originally Posted by
Danny_G
Phuk Peter Manscaredo Jr
Phuk You
and Phuk the Klit'hoes Sisters.
:lickish:
Oh and phuk the dark side too.
You little wanna be gang member. On Line E-Thug. lol
Pendejos.
it was funny when you had Old Guard in your name, and then the Old Guard were ashamed of you and your immature posts, and kept saying "Danny doesn't have Old Guard in his avatar anymore" and then you finally took it out..
you neg repped me and said i "talk shit".. the only person on here who talks more shit than you, is VD, yet VD is about 300% less serious than you, and it's funny as hell when he rags on someone..
here's one that you'll understand, considering you only seem to care about two fighters.. You telling me i talk shit is like floyd telling cotto he runs too much in a fight.. :cool:
Phuk the old gaurd, bunch of lamers, phuk baggins clan, bunch of wankers, phuk Dark Side wanna be ganstas E-Thugs. I don't need the lamers from Old Gaurd, trust me they can all peel my chile. ;D
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
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Originally Posted by
Chino
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At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony
But didn’t have the guts to fight Mayweather ;) .
Explain?
I assume (because there was never any offer from floyd) you're going to say because he didn't call out Floyd which of course is silly, not as silly as you saying things like "Cotto gets rocked almost every fight" but pretty fucking silly. Cotto doesn't call people out, he didn't call out Mosley, and he didn't call out Margarito but strangely enough he ended up fighting them.
He was in a better position than either of them, when has been the better fighters job to call his opposition? Ali had to call out Frazier when he was champion, and Foreman as well. HOlmes had to call out Ali. Tarver called out Roy, etc, etc. Mayweather basically said prove yourself, make enough of a name for yourself, and I will fight you. Back in the day Mayweather fought Corrales, Castillo twice when he didn't need to. He fought Oscar when it was going make a lot of money, He made the same 8 million against Baldomir htat he would have against MArgairto, but he also got the unified WW championship. PBF beat Hatton when that fight was going tobe at its zenith in terms of popularity, and I believe that had Cotto beaten Dela Hoya, and if he does Flyod would fight him, but Cotto is still a largely unheard of name in the greater sports media. I think the MArgarito fight garnered him more fame, but he lost that fight, while Margarito is still very much anonimous.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
I don't even care about Floyd's side of this, and maybe it would have been good if Cotto had called him out (not sure if it would have made a difference, anybody that buys the argument that Floyd fought Hatton cause he called him out has IQ problems) but the point is its stupid to say he was scared of fighting him cause he didn't call him out when he didn't call anybody out. If Cotto had the habit of calling out everybody, everybody but Floyd then Chino would have a point, but he doesn't.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
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OumaFan
I don't even care about Floyd's side of this, and maybe it would have been good if Cotto had called him out (not sure if it would have made a difference, anybody that buys the argument that Floyd fought Hatton cause he called him out has IQ problems) but the point is its stupid to say he was scared of fighting him cause he didn't call him out when he didn't call anybody out. If Cotto had the habit of calling out everybody, everybody but Floyd then Chino would have a point, but he doesn't.
LOL Hatton said one bad thing about Floyd and Floyd jumped up for the challenge. Margarito has said so many things about Floyd and Floyd hides like a little biatch asking people who Tony is ;D Margarito is still talking shiet about Floyd to this very day ;D Why won't Floyd jump? Do I need to answer that? The only reason Floyd retired and said screw ODLH, was because he knew what was going to happen to Cotto and PBF wanted to seperate himself as far away from the scene because he knew if he was still active, he would have to deal with the Antonio Margarito issue all over again and this nearly caused Floyd to have a nervous break down the first time. ;D It was a smart puzzy move on Floyd's part but the little biatch does not fool me. Not even his own so called friends respect him today, his homies just walk into his house and take his shiet. LOL @ Floyd paying rent to the homies ;D
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
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Danny_G
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Originally Posted by
OumaFan
I don't even care about Floyd's side of this, and maybe it would have been good if Cotto had called him out (not sure if it would have made a difference, anybody that buys the argument that Floyd fought Hatton cause he called him out has IQ problems) but the point is its stupid to say he was scared of fighting him cause he didn't call him out when he didn't call anybody out. If Cotto had the habit of calling out everybody, everybody but Floyd then Chino would have a point, but he doesn't.
LOL Hatton said one bad thing about Floyd and Floyd jumped up for the challenge. Margarito has said so many things about Floyd and Floyd hides like a little biatch asking people who Tony is ;D Margarito is still talking shiet about Floyd to this very day ;D Why won't Floyd jump? Do I need to answer that? The only reason Floyd retired and said screw ODLH, was because he knew what was going to happen to Cotto and PBF wanted to seperate himself as far away from the scene because he knew if he was still active, he would have to deal with the Antonio Margarito issue all over again and this nearly caused Floyd to have a nervous break down the first time. ;D It was a smart puzzy move on Floyd's part but the little biatch does not fool me. Not even his own so called friends respect him today, his homies just walk into his house and take his shiet. LOL @ Floyd paying rent to the homies ;D
It figures that you didn't catch that.....
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
Difference between what Cotto did and what Duran did. Leonard frustrated Duran by boxing rings around him and he did not have an answer so gave up. Cotto gave his heart out and was in the fight until he was HURT and could not continue. Cotto has heart and is no coward, just look at the Torres fight if he was a quitter when things got hard he would have lost that fight...
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
Mayweather Sr. knows his stuff.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
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You are just a stupid selective little biatch of a quoter. Selective quoting me always. Address all the issues, or don't quote me at all you buster.
Last time you told me to prove that you said something and I did many times and now that you have no escape you are complaining that I quote you. First, you can't back up what you said, then you change your mind, etc.
I told you my reasons why I think Cotto lost, why he's overrated, etc. And you get all sentimental about it. Sure, its fine to like a boxer but sometimes I wonder if you like Cotto in different ways.
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Danny is a little girl and he neg reps anyone who says anything bad about Cotto..
If I was like him I would be neg repping almost everybody in here for coming up with 5 or more topics a day about how terrible ODLH is but nope, everybody is entitled to their opinion.
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If all else fails, he will ignore you (like he did with me).. He can't take the heat, and i think it's funny
He asked me before to prove he said something and I did. Then he couldn't back it up. Then he changed his mind, etc.
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At least Cotto is a great fighter, that is WELL documented via PPV fights, you don't need to neg rep people who speak negative about him
Like I said, I am pretty sure he admires him for what he does in the ring but now I wonder if he likes him, umh, different ways.
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Why are you guys fighting? Danny_g is an instigator, but Chino is saying stuff like Cotto has a bad chin when only 3 guys have hurt him, Corley, Torres(a hard hitter), and Judah(who hits hard as well).
There are more fights where he has been rocked than just those three. Let's say only 3 guys ever have rocked him, well, I find it interesting how ODLH was only KOed once and still everybody says that he'll loose a fight with a single punch to the body and it just doesn’t happen anymore. I don't doubt it can happen again, but so far it hasn't.
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He didn't really get hurt by any one punch against Margarito
Round 2, a punch to the body that made him sit on the ropes.
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So either Margarito can't hit as hard as Torres, Judah, or Demarcus, or Cotto has a respectable chin, and he just quit in that fight.
Corley is not necessary a KO artist, but still, look at who Torres and Corley faced before Cotto. What happened to them is what happened to Cotto as well. They faced a champion in his prime and lost. That is what normally happens to overrated boxers. I don’t doubt Cotto will get back on his feet. He has the skills.
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I see his earlier tough fights, and he didn't quit
I don't think he quit against Margarito either. Fight was stopped, his corner saved his life, but its not like he shook his head signaling that he couldn't anymore.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
PBF is favourite in a Marg fight, but no way is it easy like Baldo Gatti. IF the Mayweather camp thought that was the case it would have happened a couple years back and for good money.
No Mas, whatever, at least he had the balls to step in the ring.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
Roger and Floyd Sr. have something negative to say about a fighter who could quite possibly beat the shit out of their fighter and relative.........wow, shocker.
FUCK ROGER and FUCK FLOYD SR.
They have nothing outside of Floyd Jr.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
Does anyone think that Cotto while end up like Vargas i was thinking about it and i rember Vargas having a close win over Winky. Then after that fight he had other good wins of Cotto calibar of wins. But then after he fought Trinadad and Oscar there was nothing left for him. Could this happen to Cotto both him and Vargas had hard defeat so just asking.
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Re: Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!
No because #1 Cotto isn't "in love with his power" #2 Cotto is a FAAAAAR better boxer than Vargas ever was
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Lyle
No because #1 Cotto isn't "in love with his power" #2 Cotto is a FAAAAAR better boxer than Vargas ever was
Agreed,Cotto has matured much in with calibur of comp and in boxing style even prior to Tony scrap.Vargas was somewhat rushed Imo and Tito took a lasting toll.Cotto has the gears to rebound.
