Roger and Sr: Cotto pulled a no mas!

[C.J.Rock]

Graham Houston spoke to them both following the fight and this is their opinion :-

"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."

"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."

"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"

"He retreated. He went down on one knee on his own and that's a sign of retreat. 'I dont want no more'. Said Floyd Snr.

"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "

"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."

"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."

Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".

"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."



At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony

Houston should have asked Daddy why Little Floyd ducked fighting Margarito. I know. Cause he knew if he fought tony he'd get same treatment as Cotto cept Floyd would quit sooner

[ICB]

Graham Houston spoke to them both following the fight and this is their opinion :-

"I'm gonna tell you what happened here" Mayweather snr says "Anytime a fighter gets tired, it turns them into a coward."

"What happened with Cotto is he started layin' on the ropes because he wasn't in tip-top...tip top shape. Cotto was doing good but he ran outta gas."

"There was too much pressure on him... He's got some NO MAS in him !"

"He retreated. He went down on one knee on his own and that's a sign of retreat. 'I dont want no more'. Said Floyd Snr.

"Little Floyd has got better legs, better skills and would make Margarito miss a lot. He fought tall fighters in Corrales and De La Hoya and it mean't nothin. Floyd has that defence which Margarito ain't gettin' through. Believe me Margarito ain't seen a defence like Floyd. Floyd would hit him harder than Cotto and let me tell you this, Floyd ain't no Cotto- he wouldn't quit. "

"And where Cotto slowed down, Floyd wouldn't slow down. He'd keep banging him."

"It would be a rugged fight. But it's a fight that Floyd would win. It ain't because he's my son I say that as we don't get along, I'm saying it because that's what I believe."

Roger Mayweather had his own comments to make; " Cotto can't box and he is one handed anyway, the left hand. He has got no chin and I told all the other boxers in the gym that Cotto was going to get knocked out".

"Cotto said he had no excuses, but i tell you one thing he ain't sayin: 'Let me fight that mothf*cker again.' He got his ass whipped."



At least Cotto had the guts to fight Tony

Houston should have asked Daddy why Little Floyd ducked fighting Margarito. I know. Cause he knew if he fought tony he'd get same treatment as Cotto cept Floyd would quit sooner

Don't bet on it bud just because Antonio Margarito defeated Miguel Cotto doesn't erase his flaws like his slow movement, slow handspeed, wide punches, and with Floyd Mayweather being an excellent counter puncher aswell as a good mover and having great defense he should clearly outbox Antonio Margarito over 12 rounds.

[Beanflicker]

Like it or not, the Predator and his balding brother have some good points. I dont agree with the assessment of Cotto being a coward though, I think he had a just cause to give in

[frasd]

It reminds me of when a group of guys come home alone from a bar explaining to the one guy who actually had the courage to make a move on the hot chick all the things he did did wrong and how they would have succeeded if they had tried. Sometimes it's easier to sleep at night telling yourself I could have done it 'IF'. Instead of having the balls to take a chance and risk failure.
Cotto - Margarito was one of the few pay per views I've gotten in the last couple of years that at the end of the night even my wife didn't think I wasted my money. There are fighters and then there are warriors. For anyone outside the ring to point out flaws in either's performance is pointless to me.

[RP33]

It reminds me of when a group of guys come home alone from a bar explaining to the one guy who actually had the courage to make a move on the hot chick all the things he did did wrong and how they would have succeeded if they had tried. Sometimes it's easier to sleep at night telling yourself I could have done it 'IF'. Instead of having the balls to take a chance and risk failure.
Cotto - Margarito was one of the few pay per views I've gotten in the last couple of years that at the end of the night even my wife didn't think I wasted my money. There are fighters and then there are warriors. For anyone outside the ring to point out flaws in either's performance is pointless to me.

so what you're saying is that sports analysts, in general, are pointless.. We all on this forum, are pointless..

right..

that was a pretty bad comparison.. I mean, first off most sports analyst's used to be boxers.. most trainers used to be boxers.. a lot of people on this forum, are boxers or have boxed..

with the whole trying to get a girl comparison, chances are if you're criticizing someone for their attempt to get a girl, you would at least have some credibility. meaning, you, yourself have gotten girls or at least have attempted to get girls.. otherwise who cares what you are talking about.. If some fag told me that i'm terrible at getting girls, then i have something to say about that..

But lets face it Roger Mayweather had a pro career.. Floyd Mayweather had a pro career.. and i don't think everyone on this board is a fag (see what i did there ).. Needless to say both mayweathers, and the majority of posters on here, have plenty of knowledge of the sport, and aren't pointless.. otherwise, why did you sign up to this site? just to keep posting the same comparison in every thread? If you posted anything relevant to a boxer you'd be a hipocrite.. no?

[frasd]

I think maybe you misunderstood. Regarding people having an opinion, I wasn't saying that people commenting or analyzing the fight are irrelavent although I guess that's how it came across. I was saying that ,for me, I don't listen to criticism of the fighters after that one because I just want to remember t for what it was. A great fight.
In terms of the whole picking up chicks reference I'm saying that it amuses me when people who don't have the guts to try critisizing those who do.

[Chino]

It would be an easy fight for Antonio Margarito and that is why Floyd did not want to fight Tony.

I wish I could agree but if there was ever a Margarito vs Mayweather, I can see something similar to what we saw when Mayweather got in the ring with Baldomir and Gatti.

Cotto has a pretty good chin

Not so sure about that. In almost EVERY fight, he gets rocked and almost saved by the referee (I believe that fight should have been stopped).

Cintron was knocked out in 7? It's not the chin that failed Cotto, it was Tony's relentless body attack and the broken nose that slowed Cotto down. No excuses, that is a fact CHINO.

Kermit who? When he faced a champion in his prime, he failed. Somewhat similar to Cotto when he also faced a champion in his prime, he failed, failed badly. Yep Danny_G, no excuses or "what ifs". Tony showed to be the better man that night.

There will be a rematch! Cotto is going to fight the man who Floyd is scared shitless of again.

A rematch? Oh no . Overrated or not, I like Cotto and I wouldn't want to see him leave the ring in the same condition he did before. I can understand a rematch when the fight is close, competitive, went back/forth the whole time, a close or questionable decision, etc.

undefeated, 5 class world champ, previously the undisputed P4P #1 in the world, oh and rich as hell..

Not the richest guy in boxing but yeah, he's up there.

[Chino]

Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.

ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.

[SigmaMu]

Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.

ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.

You are just a stupid selective little biatch of a quoter. Selective quoting me always. Address all the issues, or don't quote me at all you buster.

[RP33]

Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.

ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.

Danny is a little girl and he neg reps anyone who says anything bad about Cotto..

I hear he has this great boxing knowledge but all he posts about is how he dislikes Floyd and how he is in love with Cotto.. Oh, and he makes threads about other posters and gets all creative with his picture editing programs and tries to embarrass people..

If all else fails, he will ignore you (like he did with me).. He can't take the heat, and i think it's funny..

I mean, i "like" peter manfredo, cause he's from my hometown, and i root for him, but i know the caliber fighter he is, and don't make him to be anything more.. i'm not about to neg rep anyone who says he is "trash" "horrible" etc, because it's simply their opinion.. At least Cotto is a great fighter, that is WELL documented via PPV fights, you don't need to neg rep people who speak negative about him..

to be clear, i could absolutely care less about my rep, i just think it's funny that posters actually get under Danny's skin enough for him to neg rep them.. I think the only time i neg rep anyone is when someone says something absolutely racist, or when someone makes a thread of "Wlad Klitschko (or any fighter) is the best and all you faggetZ are dum 4 not realizin this.. he'll kill any1!!"

to each their own, i suppose.

[SigmaMu]

Did I hurt Danny's feelings for daring myself to say something negative about Cotto and because of that, got negative reps for stating my opinion without disrespecting anybody? Hhhhmpph interesting.
If giving me negative reps makes you feel better, go for it. Still, that won't change the fact that Cotto lost badly and lost the first time he faced a champion in his prime. It happens normally with overrated boxers.

ICB,
The casual fan expects to see fireworks in the ring by having two guys just let it all out in the middle of the ring maybe like a ToughMan competition. Mayweather's style may not be "as fun" as other guys but I really think his style is what a TRUE BOXER is about and that includes defense. I don't remember when Floyd got a bruise on his face or have a clear flaw/weakness really.

Danny is a little girl and he neg reps anyone who says anything bad about Cotto..

I hear he has this great boxing knowledge but all he posts about is how he dislikes Floyd and how he is in love with Cotto.. Oh, and he makes threads about other posters and gets all creative with his picture editing programs and tries to embarrass people..

If all else fails, he will ignore you (like he did with me).. He can't take the heat, and i think it's funny..

I mean, i "like" peter manfredo, cause he's from my hometown, and i root for him, but i know the caliber fighter he is, and don't make him to be anything more.. i'm not about to neg rep anyone who says he is "trash" "horrible" etc, because it's simply their opinion.. At least Cotto is a great fighter, that is WELL documented via PPV fights, you don't need to neg rep people who speak negative about him..

to be clear, i could absolutely care less about my rep, i just think it's funny that posters actually get under Danny's skin enough for him to neg rep them.. I think the only time i neg rep anyone is when someone says something absolutely racist, or when someone makes a thread of "Wlad Klitschko (or any fighter) is the best and all you faggetZ are dum 4 not realizin this.. he'll kill any1!!"

to each their own, i suppose.

Phuk Peter Manscaredo Jr
Phuk You
and Phuk the Klit'hoes Sisters.

Oh and phuk the dark side too.
You little wanna be gang member. On Line E-Thug. lol

Pendejos.

[Taeth]

Besides saying Cotto didn't hit Margarito as hard as FLoyd would I agree with everything, FLoyd would be a lot harder to keep on the ropes, Margarito would be landing maybe 10% of his punches, and less then 5% of the meaningful ones.

I stated I was dissapointed Cotto gave up, Watch Holyfield against Quawi, it wasn't just an iron chin that got him through, it was determination. I think the Peurto Rican fighters all have great skill, and even better power, but I see a common flaw, and thats that they are not as tough as the mexicans or the best americans. You see it when Chavez fought Rosario or when Gomez fought Sanchez, Cotto against Margarito, Tito vs Hopkins

[SigmaMu]

Besides saying Cotto didn't hit Margarito as hard as FLoyd would I agree with everything, FLoyd would be a lot harder to keep on the ropes, Margarito would be landing maybe 10% of his punches, and less then 5% of the meaningful ones.

I stated I was dissapointed Cotto gave up, Watch Holyfield against Quawi, it wasn't just an iron chin that got him through, it was determination. I think the Peurto Rican fighters all have great skill, and even better power, but I see a common flaw, and thats that they are not as tough as the mexicans or the best americans. You see it when Chavez fought Rosario or when Gomez fought Sanchez, Cotto against Margarito, Tito vs Hopkins

Camacho had no power.
Tito beat the shiet out of Vargas.

You compare the ammount of Puerto Ricans to the ammount of Mexicans?

Puerto Rico — Population:
3,944,259 (July 2007 est.)

Mexico — Population:
108,700,891 (July 2007 est.)


I am Mexican and I am proud of it but I wont deny the little Island and not give them their props. With those kinds of numbers, how can I deny them respect?

[purtyboy]

Difference between what Cotto did and what Duran did. Leonard frustrated Duran by boxing rings around him and he did not have an answer so gave up. Cotto gave his heart out and was in the fight until he was HURT and could not continue. Cotto has heart and is no coward, just look at the Torres fight if he was a quitter when things got hard he would have lost that fight...