Oscar v Pacman - Risk of serious injury to Pac..? or are we being conned..?

The weight difference is an issue for some...
Let em fight i say:)

"Manny Pacquiao is going to get seriously hurt unless De La Hoya goes easy on him,......" - Fitzgerald

Massachusetts State Boxing Commisioner: "De La Hoya-Pacquiao is a dangerous mismatch that should not happen!"

Anyone else believe this could be more of a money making "spectacle" than a competetive fight.........
IMO Oscar has pulled this stunt before and not too long ago;)

IS the fight at 147? Because ODL is going to struggle like hell to get there. So that will weaken him. Pac is quite big-framed so even though he started out at a much lower weight, putting the weight on shouldn't be too much of a problem and i know he walks round above 150 nowadays. Frame wise he's not too different from Mayweather imo. I think he'll handle 147 possibly better than Oscar to be honest.

No idea... but i think the worry is Oscar will have far more natural punching power.

this is one of those 'apparent' mismatches in terms of weight I just don't get - like with RJJ v Trinidad (and Khan v Prescott;))

If Pac wants to fight then yep let him but I can't see him doing anything other than losing by a stoppaqge.

Its a superfight yes with DLH having everything to lose in terms of his ring reputation.

But let the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ roll

After this DLH shopuld try coax Dave Macauley out of retirement for one last hurrah then retire

Its gonna kill De La Hoya to get to 147 but he will be still to strong for Manny Pac,i think he stops manny around the 6th.

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Originally Posted by smashup

No idea... but i think the worry is Oscar will have far more natural punching power.

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He may, but his punch resistance may also go to shit if he's weight drained.

He couldn't hurt Mayweather and Mayweather certainly shook him. Obviously Pac is much easier to hit but i still think this fight will be closer than most think

I think Oscar will "go easy on him":detective:

Definitely, this fight should be stopped.

i think oscar will hurt manny but manny will hurt oscar too cause forbes hit oscar quite a bit and oscar had a small fracture over his eyebrow so if forbes can do that aint no tellin what pacman can do

i think you are all wrong will go down to the last bell oscar winning tho pretty sad how money got in the way of a great fight between oscar and cotto or magraito

I don't care about anything but I do hope that Manny does not get hurt. I will also be rooting for Manny with a passion :cool:

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Originally Posted by smashup

Anyone else believe this could be more of a money making "spectacle" than a competetive fight.........
IMO Oscar has pulled this stunt before and not too long ago;)

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Mate I've been saying for months that if this fight happens it will mean Manny will sign a deal with GBP as well and that Oscar will go out of his way to make him look good.

If they fight no way Oscar knocks Manny out as that will harm his future marketability.

It will be a close and competetive, cagey fight and Oscar will in no way try and put a hurting on Manny.

I think Oscar will win, but it wouldn't be a complete suprise if he allowed Manny to stop him late in the fight like he did with his other business partner B Hop.

The whole fight is a con though, Oscar will offer Manny a nice little deal not only for the fight but also to sign him up and promote his future fights as well.

All very amicable and profitable for both men, and means the result of their fight will likely be fixed from the outset.

Pac will get stopped

I just don't see why everyone thinks that Manny Pacquiao will get destroyed Steve Forbes who spent majority of his career at Super Featherweight/Lightweight gave Oscar Dela Hoya a good argument over 12 rounds and busted his face up somewhat and yet before the fight everyone thought it was laughable that anyone even thinking Steve Forbes could make it competitive was silly and so did i im not saying Manny Pacquiao will win but i think people need to remember Oscar Dela Hoya's previous fight and IMO i think Manny Pacquaio has a decent chance.

I already started two threads tackling the size difference issue of Hoya-PAC fight.

The first one is about david vs. GOLIATH fights. This year alone, there were so many david vs. GOLIATH fights happening and still many more to come. Why people were protesting about Hoya-PAC when in fact these kind of fights do happened regularly...

link --> http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...th-fights.html

The second thread showed that it's been proven before that from flyweight to heavyweight, size is not everything...

link --> http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...verything.html
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noticed this on another site

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/139609delamoney.gif

How great it would be for Pac to win, that would be hilarious.

Good to see some of you "think outside the box" and understand that boxing has another side to it...
Money and business;)
Bilbo has totally nailed it:cool:

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Originally Posted by smashup

Good to see some of you "think outside the box" and understand that boxing has another side to it...
Money and business;)
Bilbo has totally nailed it:cool:

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There's a difference between "thinking outside the box" and being a "crazy conspiracy theorist" ;D

Oscar, understandably (well, to me), wants his final fight to be MASSIVE and a WINNABLE one. With no Mayweather rematch, Hatton turning the fight down and Cotto losing to Margarito - who does that leave? He needs a STAR opposite him..

Manny Pacquiao!

What better way for the multi-gazillionaire, Oscar De La Hoya, to leave boxing than go having dethroned the current P4P No.1. The guy that beat Morales, Barrera and JMM - "The Mexicutioner"!!! (that alone gives him a serious incentive to win.. and it's a good selling point to boot;))

As for Pac - he can't lose. He makes a once in a lifetime payday and should he lose the actual contest - he was simply too small. He will move backdown for MASSIVE fights with Hatton and the like.

Yes, boxing is all about MONEY!!! But that naturally comes with HUGE event fights like this, without any bullshit underhand motives necessary. ;)

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Originally Posted by smashup

Anyone else believe this could be more of a money making "spectacle" than a competetive fight.........
IMO Oscar has pulled this stunt before and not too long ago;)

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My thoughts exactly!!

If DLH is taking this fight as a fight and not a promotional scam, then no way on earth can Pac win imo. BUT....... I think Pac will win ;)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by smashup

Anyone else believe this could be more of a money making "spectacle" than a competetive fight.........
IMO Oscar has pulled this stunt before and not too long ago;)

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My thoughts exactly!!

If DLH is taking this fight as a fight and not a promotional scam, then no way on earth can Pac win imo. BUT....... I think Pac will win ;)

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So you think the multi-gazillionaire is gonna throw the fight? ;D

Why?

;D I just think something aint quite right about it

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Originally Posted by BIG H

;D I just think something aint quite right about it

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:detective: do tell? :)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by smashup

Good to see some of you "think outside the box" and understand that boxing has another side to it...
Money and business;)
Bilbo has totally nailed it:cool:

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There's a difference between "thinking outside the box" and being a "crazy conspiracy theorist" ;D

Oscar, understandably (well, to me), wants his final fight to be MASSIVE and a WINNABLE one. With no Mayweather rematch, Hatton turning the fight down and Cotto losing to Margarito - who does that leave? He needs a STAR opposite him..

Manny Pacquiao!

What better way for the multi-gazillionaire, Oscar De La Hoya, to leave boxing than go having dethroned the current P4P No.1. The guy that beat Morales, Barrera and JMM - "The Mexicutioner"!!! (that alone gives him a serious incentive to win.. and it's a good selling point to boot;))

As for Pac - he can't lose. He makes a once in a lifetime payday and should he lose the actual contest - he was simply too small. He will move backdown for MASSIVE fights with Hatton and the like.

Yes, boxing is all about MONEY!!! But that naturally comes with HUGE event fights like this, without any bullshit underhand motives necessary. ;)

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That's why Fenster is the prediction champ last season. He makes sense.:cool:

I think the chance of Pac getting hurt is there. But I don't think he will. Pac is a smart fighter. He's not going to stand toe to toe with Oscar.

Don't ever rule out Oscar v Hatton at Wembley stadium (90,000) somewhere down the line which would easily be the biggest money spinner the fight game has ever seen and a nice exhibition match for both at catchweight;)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

;D I just think something aint quite right about it

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Nice reason ;D

I do think the size difference is ridiculous. DLH is a bastard and there is no other word to describe him. Im not even a Pac fan, but I hope Pac somehow manages to piss on Oscars parade because its good for life as well as boxing. Sometimes the smaller guy reallycan beat on the corporate pig. I hope this is one such time.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

noticed this on another site

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/139609delamoney.gif

How great it would be for Pac to win, that would be hilarious.

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I think Oscar is going to try to carry Pac for a few rounds then knock him out. I want Pac to win this one so bad but I just don't see it happening. Oscar will really take this victory and make it seem like he just beat king kong!

I think Pac gets stretchered by the 3rd round.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I think Pac gets stretchered by the 3rd round.

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I say 5th but same result

Guess what Hoya and PAC weight today.... :lolhaha:

link: Oscar down to 149 lbs in early buildup

link: PACQUIAO NOW WEIGHS 154 LBS

Trust me this is an exhibition match with a sprinkling of violence;)
Pure Profile and money booster...

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Originally Posted by smashup

Anyone else believe this could be more of a money making "spectacle" than a competetive fight.........
IMO Oscar has pulled this stunt before and not too long ago;)

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If you mean the Mayweahter fight i disagree! I think Oscar really went for that fight hoping to win whilst putting on the best show possible in the process. He tired at the end and lost a close decision to the best fighter in the world since Roy Jones Jr was at his peak.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I think Pac gets stretchered by the 3rd round.

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Yep, that's what i reckon if Pac goes more than 3 rounds he is doing well.

i wonder what people are gonna say regardless the outcome of this fight. all the pac haters will say if pac wins that dlh is old. if odlh wins he is too big. man, just watch the damn fight. if you got a prooblem with it dont watch. boxing is a contact sport. God forbid, but sometimes people get hurt. we all know that this fight was made to make money for both fighters. if they come out and fight, the better for us. for those people who wishes pac gets stretchered out, why dont you go to wild card gym and shoot the guy if you really hate him that much.

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Originally Posted by josef4334

i wonder what people are gonna say regardless the outcome of this fight. all the pac haters will say if pac wins that dlh is old. if odlh wins he is too big. man, just watch the damn fight. if you got a prooblem with it dont watch. boxing is a contact sport. God forbid, but sometimes people get hurt. we all know that this fight was made to make money for both fighters. if they come out and fight, the better for us. for those people who wishes pac gets stretchered out, why dont you go to wild card gym and shoot the guy if you really hate him that much.

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bit ott shotting some one for disliking them ! i also think it is ott wishing for some one to get seriously hurt

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Originally Posted by josef4334

i wonder what people are gonna say regardless the outcome of this fight. all the pac haters will say if pac wins that dlh is old. if odlh wins he is too big. man, just watch the damn fight. if you got a prooblem with it dont watch. boxing is a contact sport. God forbid, but sometimes people get hurt. we all know that this fight was made to make money for both fighters. if they come out and fight, the better for us. for those people who wishes pac gets stretchered out, why dont you go to wild card gym and shoot the guy if you really hate him that much.

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bit ott shotting some one for disliking them ! i also think it is ott wishing for some one to get seriously hurt

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yep but to think of it. it is still the same. you hate somebody so much u want him to get hurt no matter in what way.

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Originally Posted by josef4334

i wonder what people are gonna say regardless the outcome of this fight. all the pac haters will say if pac wins that dlh is old. if odlh wins he is too big. man, just watch the damn fight. if you got a prooblem with it dont watch. boxing is a contact sport. God forbid, but sometimes people get hurt. we all know that this fight was made to make money for both fighters. if they come out and fight, the better for us. for those people who wishes pac gets stretchered out, why dont you go to wild card gym and shoot the guy if you really hate him that much.

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bit ott shotting some one for disliking them ! i also think it is ott wishing for some one to get seriously hurt

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yep but to think of it. it is still the same. you hate somebody so much u want him to get hurt no matter in what way.

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Naaaaah, I don't think its people hating PAC. They are just thinking of the outcome. If you want to talk about hate then it would be ODLH and Mayweather. Both of them are hated pretty bad.