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For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..
So this guy KingFrk or something says that SRL didnt duck pryor...then he hits me with the negative point snatching...
well watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNKmkqrrFo
you can skip to about 6:50... to save you some time...
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put the n in my name please thank you... :)
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well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
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well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Now that Shane beat Margarito all of a sudden Floyds ducking shane:confused:. I sure didnt hear anything about that before the Margarito fight, only until you showed up fool.
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Now that Shane beat Margarito all of a sudden Floyds ducking shane:confused:. I sure didnt hear anything about that before the Margarito fight, only until you showed up fool.
thats because you're a noob, and since i've been a member of this forum ive said shane is the only person that can beat floyd. So just because you have shit coming out of your eyes from having your head stuck up floyd's ass doesn't mean its "all of a sudden"...check my post history from all the back in 2005....
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.
Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.
Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.
Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.
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I guess people forget when PBF called out Sugar Shane many times when Shane was cleaning out the lightweights. It was right before he moved up to welter. Sugar Shane is my favorite fighter of all time but I keep it unbiased when I know what the truth is I am not going to act like I'm ignorant and blurt out distorted information to keep the wool over people's eyes. Shane would not beat PBF. Sugar Shane was offered a fight by PBF but I don't know why it never materialized. But I never read Sugar Shane offer PBF a fight. So how do we all of a sudden have this cult of people saying PBF is ducking Sugar Shane? Hilarious, remember we had the cult of PBF ducking Vivian Harris? Then it was PBF ducking Hatton. Then it was PBF ducking Cotto. Then it was PBF ducking Margarito. Now its PBF ducking Sugar Shane. This is comical and just plain wishful hoping. You know what I am going to start the cult of Sugar Shane is ducking Paul Williams. You can't prove me wrong and since Sugar Shane isn't calling him out then all I need is anti-Sugar followers and I look legitimate. I'm not a big PBF fan but that dude is the most hated on man in all of sports. It'd be nice for him to just stay retired and laugh at his critics because whatever he does it'll never be enough to stop the ducking rants. Lets move on. There are plenty of good active fighters who need to face each other.
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I think Floyd Mayweather is blatantly ducking Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran & Julio Cesar Chavez. The pussy :rolleyes:
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ICB
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.
Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.
Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.
Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.
Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
At that time no one wanted anything to do with Pryor...After what he did to Arguello twice I think he put the fear of god into guys around his weight class...
I don't like to say anyone "Ducked" anyone else because that means they are afraid to fight them and in this sport guys like SRL were not afraid of anyone nor is any real pro...Hell if he would fight Duran and Hearns Pryor was no more scary then Tommy KO'ing everyone or Duran when he had an iron jaw or such hard punches...
I would say Ray might not have been in a rush to fight him...there is a difference contrary to peoples belief
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Now that Shane beat Margarito all of a sudden Floyds ducking shane:confused:. I sure didnt hear anything about that before the Margarito fight, only until you showed up fool.
Dude, Mayweather shoudl have fought Shane instead of ODH. Clearly he should fight the man who beat ODH twice. I mean it's easy to say nwo that we have everything unfold. ODH gets beat up, Shane come off his biggest win... But I have been callign PBF adn SSM for years. Shane TKO10 if I ever get to put money on that fight.
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well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.
Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.
Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.
Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.
Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Clearly. Even though nobody was really talking about the two of them fighting.:p
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Clearly. Even though nobody was really talking about the two of them fighting.:p
right:rolleyes:
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kingfrnk
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JonesJrMayweather
well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!
You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...
Now that Shane beat Margarito all of a sudden Floyds ducking shane:confused:. I sure didnt hear anything about that before the Margarito fight, only until you showed up fool.
Dude, Mayweather shoudl have fought Shane instead of ODH. Clearly he should fight the man who beat ODH twice. I mean it's easy to say nwo that we have everything unfold. ODH gets beat up, Shane come off his biggest win... But I have been callign PBF adn SSM for years. Shane TKO10 if I ever get to put money on that fight.
When Mayweather signed on to fight Oscar, Oscar had just KO'ed Mayorga and Mosley had barely beaten Vargas(who Mayorga later manhandled), and even his second victory over Vargas wasn't as impressive as what Oscar did to Mayorga.
Furthermore, maybe you should watch Mosley-ODLH II again, Oscar landed like a 100 more punches, he outboxed Mosley decisively the first half of the fight, and won his fair share of the second half of the fight, his movement made it largely impossible for Mosley to effectively get off like he did in the first fight, which further makes me believe that Floyd's movement and jab would leave Mosley very disgruntled in the ring.
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Now that Shane beat Margarito all of a sudden Floyds ducking shane:confused:. I sure didnt hear anything about that before the Margarito fight, only until you showed up fool.
Dude, Mayweather shoudl have fought Shane instead of ODH. Clearly he should fight the man who beat ODH twice. I mean it's easy to say nwo that we have everything unfold. ODH gets beat up, Shane come off his biggest win... But I have been callign PBF adn SSM for years. Shane TKO10 if I ever get to put money on that fight.
When Mayweather signed on to fight Oscar, Oscar had just KO'ed Mayorga and Mosley had barely beaten Vargas(who Mayorga later manhandled), and even his second victory over Vargas wasn't as impressive as what Oscar did to Mayorga.
Furthermore, maybe you should watch Mosley-ODLH II again, Oscar landed like a 100 more punches, he outboxed Mosley decisively the first half of the fight, and won his fair share of the second half of the fight, his movement made it largely impossible for Mosley to effectively get off like he did in the first fight, which further makes me believe that Floyd's movement and jab would leave Mosley very disgruntled in the ring.
that fight with oscar was at 154..all that proved was that oscar's body could handle the weight better than shane...obviously because oscar has fought at 160.
That's like saying the weight at 147 for hatton didn't have an effect on him when he fought floyd...although he'd lose to floyd at anyweight point is, his skills are maximized at 140. much like shane is maxed at 147.
Floyd at 140. and fighting shane at 147 equals possible lost.
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BlackRazor
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ICB
Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.
Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.
Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.
Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.
Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
I will, can't do that @ work. But that doesn't change the fact that if he took the best punch Hearns could throw @ him, what would Aaron have that's worse? Who knows, maybe there was a Manny/Hatton tug of war going on back then too but behind the scenes. Maybe Ray wanted a larger slice of the pie than Pryor was willing to accept.
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JonesJrMayweather
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BlackRazor
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ICB
Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.
Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.
Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.
Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.
Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.
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JonesJrMayweather
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BlackRazor
Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.
whats the point in moving up if the guy isn't offering you the fight? which is another good question to ask...Why didn't leonard sign him to a fight and make him come up to 147?
If leonard fought "everybody" but pryor, who ended his career with one loss, why didn't he fight pryor?
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JonesJrMayweather
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BlackRazor
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ICB
Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.
Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.
Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.
Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.
Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran. and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him ;D im sure you seen that.
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JonesJrMayweather
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Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran.
and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him ;D im sure you seen that.
he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.
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look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran.
and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him ;D im sure you seen that.
he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.
the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.
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kingfrnk
so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran. and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him ;D im sure you seen that.
he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.
the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.
what sense would it make to go up if leonard wasn't going to fight him, thats retarded....
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JonesJrMayweather
he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.
the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.
what sense would it make to go up if leonard wasn't going to fight him, thats retarded....
no, it would show how dedicated he really was for wanting the big fights but just cause u say a few words dont mean shit FACT
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Re: For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..
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JonesJrMayweather
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kingfrnk
the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.
what sense would it make to go up if leonard wasn't going to fight him, thats retarded....
no, it would show how dedicated he really was for wanting the big fights but just cause u say a few words dont mean shit FACT
yeah words don't mean shit with out action. And it makes no sense to move up to a weight division to fight other guys when he wanted leonard.
after cleaning out everyone he challenged SRL..and leonard dismissed him...so then what? move up fight a few fights with guy that aren't champ so the champ can still deny you?
Think dude, wouldnt it have been advantageous for leonard to accept the challenge and be the first man pryor would see at 147? It's all specualtion anyway, simple speculation and opinionated bullshit from a bunch of guys in a forum.
But its a fact that pryor challenged SRL as you saw for yourself in the video. When you find me a video showing leonard accepting the fight if aaron moves up then debate over. Until then the FACT is pryor challenged SRL numerous time and SRL dismissed them all without reason.
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Re: For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..
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JonesJrMayweather
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kingfrnk
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JonesJrMayweather
what sense would it make to go up if leonard wasn't going to fight him, thats retarded....
no, it would show how dedicated he really was for wanting the big fights but just cause u say a few words dont mean shit FACT
yeah words don't mean shit with out action. And it makes no sense to move up to a weight division to fight other guys when he wanted leonard.
after cleaning out everyone he challenged SRL..and leonard dismissed him...so then what? move up fight a few fights with guy that aren't champ so the champ can still deny you?
Think dude, wouldnt it have been advantageous for leonard to accept the challenge and be the first man pryor would see at 147? It's all specualtion anyway, simple speculation and opinionated bullshit from a bunch of guys in a forum.
But its a fact that pryor challenged SRL as you saw for yourself in the video. When you find me a video showing leonard accepting the fight if aaron moves up then debate over. Until then the FACT is pryor challenged SRL numerous time and SRL dismissed them all without reason.
I dont have to find a video because i know it doesnt exist. the fact is that pryor did nothing but say a few words and did nothin action wise he didnt go up in weight or even bother to challenge any other guys that SRL beat. Pryor took no action in the ring if he wanted to fight Leonard make a statement in the ring thats it.
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Re: For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..
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kingfrnk
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JonesJrMayweather
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kingfrnk
no, it would show how dedicated he really was for wanting the big fights but just cause u say a few words dont mean shit FACT
yeah words don't mean shit with out action. And it makes no sense to move up to a weight division to fight other guys when he wanted leonard.
after cleaning out everyone he challenged SRL..and leonard dismissed him...so then what? move up fight a few fights with guy that aren't champ so the champ can still deny you?
Think dude, wouldnt it have been advantageous for leonard to accept the challenge and be the first man pryor would see at 147? It's all specualtion anyway, simple speculation and opinionated bullshit from a bunch of guys in a forum.
But its a fact that pryor challenged SRL as you saw for yourself in the video. When you find me a video showing leonard accepting the fight if aaron moves up then debate over. Until then the FACT is pryor challenged SRL numerous time and SRL dismissed them all without reason.
I dont have to find a video because i know it doesnt exist. the fact is that pryor did nothing but say a few words and did nothin action wise he didnt go up in weight or even bother to challenge any other guys that SRL beat. Pryor took no action in the ring if he wanted to fight Leonard make a statement in the ring thats it.
he made a statement by cleaning out his division...then challenging SRL the champ in the next division. That's common sense. Clean out the division then move up and challenge the next champ.
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Re: For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..
Like Daxx said ducked or scared aren't the right words to use. But Leonard definitely avoided Pryor!!!
Pryor was forced to move to Jr. Welter because none of the lightweights (Watt or Kenty) would fight him!
They used to be real close friends, roomed together as amatuers everywhere they went.
But Leonard became Mr Big & wanted things all business like, Pryor once said "Your making people millionaires, how about you & me make a fight?" If Ray wanted it all business it could be all business!
Leonard said it was a possibilty but never took it any further.
This is just one example that Pryor asked Leonard for a fight on numerous occassions but was always avoided for one reason or another...
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Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.
Right you are Ice.
But lets also take a close look at the guy who fought and beat Benitez, Duran, Hearns, then fought Hagler coming off a three year break, and ask whether anyone could seriously believe that Leonard was afraid of Pryor. I think not. Props to the JJrFloydguy for getting poeple's attention tho.
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Like Daxx said ducked or scared aren't the right words to use. But Leonard definitely avoided Pryor!!!
Pryor was forced to move to Jr. Welter because none of the lightweights (Watt or Kenty) would fight him!
They used to be real close friends, roomed together as amatuers everywhere they went.
But Leonard became Mr Big & wanted things all business like, Pryor once said "Your making people millionaires, how about you & me make a fight?" If Ray wanted it all business it could be all business!
Leonard said it was a possibilty but never took it any further.
This is just one example that Pryor asked Leonard for a fight on numerous occassions but was always avoided for one reason or another...
finally someone who understands instead of just running with hype of SRL was great and could do no wrong...he was great, but he AVOIDED pryor.
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Re: For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..
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JonesJrMayweather
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kingfrnk
the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.
what sense would it make to go up if leonard wasn't going to fight him, thats retarded....
no, it would show how dedicated he really was for wanting the big fights but just cause u say a few words dont mean shit FACT
Exactly
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CGM
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ICB
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JonesJrMayweather
look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"
Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.
Right you are Ice.
But lets also take a close look at the guy who fought and beat Benitez, Duran, Hearns, then fought Hagler coming off a three year break, and ask whether anyone could seriously believe that Leonard was afraid of Pryor. I think not. Props to the JJrFloydguy for getting poeple's attention tho.
I don't think many people have seen pryor fight...SRL was great but he avoided Pryor..and pryor would have fought him because he was hungry and wanted a big payday like hearns, and SRL were getting.
Not saying SRL would have lost, just stating the fact that he was challenged by Pryor numerous times and nothing. It's just odd. Its not like Pryor wasn't worthy in terms of skills. But maybe in terms of selling then yeah.
