Juan on Juan: Baby Bull vs. JMMarquez

This fight has got me fired up cant wait until Saturday, and its on regular HBO with no need to order PPV like this past saturday the economy slowdown got to me and i didnt see the Pavlik & Cotto fights. Anyhow, Juan on Juan is an interesting match up, the new breed Baby Bull taking on experienced technical craftsman boxer Juan Manuel Marquez. This fight has the potential to go as fight of the year. I also heard the Campbell's vacant belt is also on the line and has been sanctioned by the WBO if im not mistaken. I personally dont like to top Mexican's going at it but this is a business and its what boxing fans want. Can Baby Bull (El Torito) Diaz put a dent on to JMM record? Exciting isnt it? Hopefully this doesnt turn into one of those Morales-Barrera Vazquez-Marquez all-out wars in rematches and trilogies. May the best man win on Sat and move on to represent the lightweight division as the true champ. Im going for Houston's Baby Bull Diaz to win in front of his home crowd. Dont know much about Chris John but thats going to be a good undercard fight in meeting Rocky Juarez, i woulda still liked to see Steven Luevano fight Rocky Juarez.http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...cons/icon7.gif

Looking forward to this one, JMM's superior boxing skills are really going to be put on display. Diaz is always exciting though. Really looking forward to this one.

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

---

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

this is gonna be a good fight too bad il have to miss it. Im gonna roll with the Baby Bull on this one his hand speed should get him a SD but im sure JMM is expected to win which he might.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

---

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

Diaz was trying to hang on with his dear life.

And SD? That should've been a UD. That was almost a highway robbery.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by kingfrnk

this is gonna be a good fight too bad il have to miss it. Im gonna roll with the Baby Bull on this one his hand speed should get him a SD but im sure JMM is expected to win which he might.

---

Seriously, I think your right JMM is going to get another "L" with this one. I'm telling you guys, JMM is headed downhill and we should all get a good look at at that in this fight.

JMM style is all wrong for Diaz. Diaz always moving forward but no Power to discourage JMM to counter. JMM will pepper him with Jabs & uppercuts & counter shots.
I Pick JMM by TKO on cuts around rd 10.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by kingfrnk

this is gonna be a good fight too bad il have to miss it. Im gonna roll with the Baby Bull on this one his hand speed should get him a SD but im sure JMM is expected to win which he might.

---

Seriously, I think your right JMM is going to get another "L" with this one. I'm telling you guys, JMM is headed downhill and we should all get a good look at at that in this fight.

---

I dont think hes heading down hill just yet. He still has atleast 5 more good fights left in him.

As for the fight I still think JMM will win but it wont be that easy. But i will be rooting for Baby Bull come saturday. damn i hate having mixed feelings about fights. :-\

JMM has plenty of fights left inhim especially with his style.
I got a feeling JMM is goin for another KO.

I'm very torn about his one. Sometimes I think Marquez will box circles around Diaz but sometimes I think Diaz will be firing on all cylinders and his workrate will smother Marquez. As of right now I think Diaz will have some success but as the fight goes on, Marquez' experience and counter punching will not allow Diaz to do what he wants on offense.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

---

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

Whoever had Juan Diaz winning that fight against Nate Campbell is out of their mind. Nate controlled the tempo and made Diaz uncomfortable the entire time. That split-decision was crap. It had UD written all over it.

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

---

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Chicali

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

---

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

---

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

Is it this coming saturday? i was absent for almost a month.

JMM vs Diaz. I'd pick JMM for his counterpunching. TKO before round 10.:cool:

im picking baby bull he a very underated boxer who i think gonna surprise everyone with his performance

Nice scrap,like both guys.....but I have to go with Marquez in the later rounds.Diaz has plenty of guts,fast hands and a very sturdy chin But I'm going with the vet.This is not the mostly lay back and counter punch Marquez of past,over last few has shown added pressure and willingness to engage....while retaining nice accuracy and combination punching to head and body.Bad mix for Diaz I believe.I think Marquez still possesses too many gears.

The big question...who cuts first.Both seem susceptible,especially Marquez.Diaz should try to turn the tables,out move and out speed Marquez...but do not come straight in and go shot for shot hoping to wear him down.Nice fight all around.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I'm very torn about his one. Sometimes I think Marquez will box circles around Diaz but sometimes I think Diaz will be firing on all cylinders and his workrate will smother Marquez. As of right now I think Diaz will have some success but as the fight goes on, Marquez' experience and counter punching will not allow Diaz to do what he wants on offense.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

---

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

Whoever had Juan Diaz winning that fight against Nate Campbell is out of their mind. Nate controlled the tempo and made Diaz uncomfortable the entire time. That split-decision was crap. It had UD written all over it.

---

Sometimes we read things and get the wrong idea stuck in our head... read the thread again and highlight where you see someone claim that! If you are refering to what I wrote, in other words that Juan Diaz has heart!

Juan Manuel Marquez could do sh*t against a wimpy Chris John... His upper cut looked amateurish! He may box circle around Diaz but he'll look just like he did against Chris John. Marquez couldn't cut off the ring against John. It wasn't so much John winning the fight as it was Marquez losing... He just didn't do enough to win. And now you are telling me that Juan Diaz is less of a fighter?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I'm very torn about his one. Sometimes I think Marquez will box circles around Diaz but sometimes I think Diaz will be firing on all cylinders and his workrate will smother Marquez. As of right now I think Diaz will have some success but as the fight goes on, Marquez' experience and counter punching will not allow Diaz to do what he wants on offense.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

Whoever had Juan Diaz winning that fight against Nate Campbell is out of their mind. Nate controlled the tempo and made Diaz uncomfortable the entire time. That split-decision was crap. It had UD written all over it.

---

Sometimes we read things and get the wrong idea stuck in our head... read the thread again and highlight where you see someone claim that! If you are refering to what I wrote, in other words that Juan Diaz has heart!

Juan Manuel Marquez could do sh*t against a wimpy Chris John... His upper cut looked amateurish! He may box circle around Diaz but he'll look just like he did against Chris John. Marquez couldn't cut off the ring against John. It wasn't so much John winning the fight as it was Marquez losing... He just didn't do enough to win. And now you are telling me that Juan Diaz is less of a fighter?

---

I'm sorry if I offended you in any way by what I said. I saw your comment and thought you meant you thought the fight was a SD.

But for the second part of your post. I don't think Marquez is going to be coming forward against Diaz. It will be the other way around. Diaz will be the one attempting to cut off the ring while Marquez will be stepping back ready to counter. If Marquez comes forward, I think that will be a tactical error on his part.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I'm sorry if I offended you in any way by what I said. I saw your comment and thought you meant you thought the fight was a SD.

But for the second part of your post. I don't think Marquez is going to be coming forward against Diaz. It will be the other way around. Diaz will be the one attempting to cut off the ring while Marquez will be stepping back ready to counter. If Marquez comes forward, I think that will be a tactical error on his part.

---

No worries.... we'll see Saturday what happens! I don't really care all that for Diaz, it just looked like he was hit on the break in that fight rather than the non-head butt everyone was talking about.... Make the guy look like a whinner....

Seems like Marquez is always crying about something.. Maybe we'll get lucky and see a double knockout.....;D


"I know that you believe that you understand what you think I said, but I'm sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant" :confused:

Diaz has it in him to out hustle Marquez, but I think Marquez will land the crisper, more effective blows. It's an interesting clash of styles. I'm going with a Marquez decision.

Such a hard one to call, I enjoy watching both guys, the baby bulls all out combination punching and JMMs crisp countering style should gel well, Marques for me has the edge as BBs going to be coming all night if he fights to past form and that I fear will play into Marques's hands giving him plenty of opportunities to land his counter shots, on the other hand BB could just over whelm him but I just can't see that as JMM's seen off plenty of Manny's attacks in the past, going to be a good one who ever wins.

my heart and brain says jmm, perfect combo of power and skill. he's p4p number 2 for a resaon.

The title made me think of the slogan....

Stop the Juan on Juan violence.....

I will go with Diaz. Split decision very entertaining bout. But if Marquez wins I think it will be by ko.

This is going to be a unanimous decision, or an anytime KO for Juan Manuel Marquez. JMM is too savvy for the Baby Bull Diaz. JMM takes with him the experiences he gained through his battles against P4P king, Pacquiao. If JMM follow the same game plan he had against Pac in his coming date with BB Diaz, it will be an easy win.

Diaz overwhelms his opposition "only" if he can establish landing his combinations with repetitious regularity. This is where Juan Manuel Marquez' evasive footwork exposes how inept the Baby Bull's most effective weapons really are, once it is set against his. Diaz will be too slow in foot speed and punches, for him to be effective and get a decent shot at JMM. Maybe he improved? Most probably not.

Expect the rest of the night to be a display of crisp counter-punching from JMM, landing combinations that will illicit the oohs and the aahs from the gallery, absent from a lot of non-PPV bouts. Come to think of it, even some PPV bouts!

The only reason JMM, did not get decisions on his fights against Pacquiao, is because Pacquiao had the ability to match JMM's speed, and the power that unfortunately knocked him down each time it landed flush.

On both speed and power, Juan "the Baby Bull" Diaz, is a notch slower, enough for the other Juan, to punish him through counters. Tire and frustrate him, from the active retreat style of the later.

JMM easily by unanimous decision, that is if BB can absorb well the wicked combinations to remain upright, or KO if not... anytime, because it will land all night. Maybe TKO for cuts, also, JMM! Maybe he's slowed down a bit, already? Most probably not!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

---

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

He definately broke Diaz' will (Campbell). He walked away with almost every single late round, and Diaz had no answer for him. JMM is not big enough to hurt Diaz. JMM can counterpunch all he wants, but if you can't put the baby bull on defense, he is just gonna keep throwing punches and steamroll.

I know we haven't seen a bad performance by JMM yet, but I am thinking he may have taken too big of a bite outta the LW division this time. All the JMM fans (one of my fav) can only hope the baby bull is too busy reading his books for this one (graduating this spring btw).

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

---

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

Diaz was trying to hang on with his dear life.

And SD? That should've been a UD. That was almost a highway robbery.

---

Juan Diaz took a terrible beating from Campbell and showed tremendous heart to last the distance. He did NOT quit like Kid Diamond did. So give that bullshit a rest man.

Upsets have been happening pretty often lately, but I don't see one here.

Gotta go with Marquez by a comfortable decision. 117-111.

Diaz will push him though and see how strong he is at light weight.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

---

Diaz was trying to hang on with his dear life.

And SD? That should've been a UD. That was almost a highway robbery.

---

Juan Diaz took a terrible beating from Campbell and showed tremendous heart to last the distance. He did NOT quit like Kid Diamond did. So give that bullshit a rest man.

Upsets have been happening pretty often lately, but I don't see one here.

Gotta go with Marquez by a comfortable decision. 117-111.

Diaz will push him though and see how strong he is at light weight.

---

Not quitting doesn't mean Juan Diaz still has his heart intact... He's known to be relentless and throwing hundred punches per round but in that fight, the pressure and hundred punches were gone in the late rounds... His heart and will were broken...
.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Diaz was trying to hang on with his dear life.

And SD? That should've been a UD. That was almost a highway robbery.

---

Juan Diaz took a terrible beating from Campbell and showed tremendous heart to last the distance. He did NOT quit like Kid Diamond did. So give that bullshit a rest man.

Upsets have been happening pretty often lately, but I don't see one here.

Gotta go with Marquez by a comfortable decision. 117-111.

Diaz will push him though and see how strong he is at light weight.

---

Not quitting doesn't mean Juan Diaz still has his heart intact... He's known to be relentless and throwing hundred punches per round but in that fight, the pressure and hundred punches were gone in the late rounds... His heart and will were broken...
.

---

Ya ok then, I can see where Diaz was 'crying' because he thought he was fouled might be taken as him wanting to quit. But it was his presents in the ring showed he was sticking it out even though stamina had gone in the last three rounds. I can see where some may take this as his will being broken. But the boy was just being stupid. The boy didn't train hard enough for the fight! He was fighting stupidity as much as he was Campbell and that's not being broken... It shows his lack of maturity. Although the boy has more brains than most fighters it also doesn't mean he has wisdom. So ya not quitting does mean he has heart. If he really quit, then I don't think many of his fans would still back him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Chicali

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

---

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

---

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

---

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Chicali

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

---

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

---

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.;)

---

Although you can classify Diaz, Pacquiao and Marquez as being pressure fighters have all have different styles. Diaz is more of an inside brawler like mini George Forman. Marquez is more of a counter puncher and takes advantage of a fighters mistakes. Pacquiao's punches come from the outside and his skills have increased over his last two fights that actually warrent a changing of his previously defined brawler/puncher style that made is offense wreak less.

The knock on Pacquiao was that he was terribly impatient going after a fighter and often took as many shots as he gave. This impatients has changed into a confidence where is desire to reach his oponent is now packed with precision tied together with defensive movements. He doesn't have that imbalance look in his style anymore and he actully looks graceful Marquez's counter style hasn't changed.

Diaz with his inside brawler style will most likely back up Marquez because his counters work better against outside boxing styles, except for Chris John. So I my guess is that Maquez will have to land a lot of shots countering while backing up to get Diaz. Although I have only seen Diaz twice he might have a different approach with Marquez's counter puch style.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

---

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.;)

---

Although you can classify Diaz, Pacquiao and Marquez as being pressure fighters have all have different styles. Diaz is more of an inside brawler like mini George Forman. Marquez is more of a counter puncher and takes advantage of a fighters mistakes. Pacquiao's punches come from the outside and his skills have increased over his last two fights that actually warrent a changing of his previously defined brawler/puncher style that made is offense wreak less.

The knock on Pacquiao was that he was terribly impatient going after a fighter and often took as many shots as he gave. This impatients has changed into a confidence where is desire to reach his oponent is now packed with precision tied together with defensive movements. He doesn't have that imbalance look in his style anymore and he actully looks graceful Marquez's counter style hasn't changed.

Diaz with his inside brawler style will most likely back up Marquez because his counters work better against outside boxing styles, except for Chris John. So I my guess is that Maquez will have to land a lot of shots countering while backing up to get Diaz. Although I have only seen Diaz twice he might have a different approach with Marquez's counter puch style.

---

Dud Pacmans last 2 fights were against punchingbags get over it.:rolleyes:

I'll take Pacquiaos frontal strengh over Juan Diaz's any day of the week,especially considering his current ventures and success at a higher weight now.Too much is made of JMMs counterpunching....He also can make bid adaptations,adjust in style and exploit a guys mistakes...with added pop.If Diazs game is too walk forward and wither him down with inside volume,I think Marquez cuts him to ribbons.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.;)

---

Although you can classify Diaz, Pacquiao and Marquez as being pressure fighters have all have different styles. Diaz is more of an inside brawler like mini George Forman. Marquez is more of a counter puncher and takes advantage of a fighters mistakes. Pacquiao's punches come from the outside and his skills have increased over his last two fights that actually warrent a changing of his previously defined brawler/puncher style that made is offense wreak less.

The knock on Pacquiao was that he was terribly impatient going after a fighter and often took as many shots as he gave. This impatients has changed into a confidence where is desire to reach his oponent is now packed with precision tied together with defensive movements. He doesn't have that imbalance look in his style anymore and he actully looks graceful Marquez's counter style hasn't changed.

Diaz with his inside brawler style will most likely back up Marquez because his counters work better against outside boxing styles, except for Chris John. So I my guess is that Maquez will have to land a lot of shots countering while backing up to get Diaz. Although I have only seen Diaz twice he might have a different approach with Marquez's counter puch style.

---

Dud Pacmans last 2 fights were against punchingbags get over it.:rolleyes:

---

That it? Get over it! You wouldn't last 10 seconds against either punching bag! JMM is going to looooose.... he's oooold like DLH.

I'm not a Marquez fan but I love watching him beat almost every other fighter except PAC ofcourse just to PROVE how GREAT BOTH of them are.;)
The only advantage I see from Juan Diaz in this fight is his size, I'm not sure if that is enough to beat JMM.

Marquez is gonna stop him. Diaz won't even scratch him. One left hook to his breadbaskte that's full of baby fat and his gonna run like a baby bull.

Based on the majority of the posts in the thread, Marquez will come out victorious Saturday. Yet some of you make it seem like its going to be a walk in the park for Marquez and are underestimating Juan Diaz. Im an underdog person and i hope Diaz proves his critics wrong. He's got some fireworks of his own to put on display.

I remember going to the Mandalay Bay to the Castillo-Corrales I match and the Marquez-Polo undercard fight was straight out boring. Marquez doest brawl for shit, but that's intelligent though. He picks who he brawls with if he has brawled at all.

Babybull will get exposed again...

...Big Time!

Diaz is somewhat overrated I think. He's a solid fighter, but not in Marquez's league. JMM by stoppage in 10.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Although you can classify Diaz, Pacquiao and Marquez as being pressure fighters have all have different styles. Diaz is more of an inside brawler like mini George Forman. Marquez is more of a counter puncher and takes advantage of a fighters mistakes. Pacquiao's punches come from the outside and his skills have increased over his last two fights that actually warrent a changing of his previously defined brawler/puncher style that made is offense wreak less.

The knock on Pacquiao was that he was terribly impatient going after a fighter and often took as many shots as he gave. This impatients has changed into a confidence where is desire to reach his oponent is now packed with precision tied together with defensive movements. He doesn't have that imbalance look in his style anymore and he actully looks graceful Marquez's counter style hasn't changed.

Diaz with his inside brawler style will most likely back up Marquez because his counters work better against outside boxing styles, except for Chris John. So I my guess is that Maquez will have to land a lot of shots countering while backing up to get Diaz. Although I have only seen Diaz twice he might have a different approach with Marquez's counter puch style.

---

Dud Pacmans last 2 fights were against punchingbags get over it.:rolleyes:

---

That it? Get over it! You wouldn't last 10 seconds against either punching bag! JMM is going to looooose.... he's oooold like DLH.

---

but you would though right??