Juan on Juan: Baby Bull vs. JMMarquez

[C-Lo]

I'm very torn about his one. Sometimes I think Marquez will box circles around Diaz but sometimes I think Diaz will be firing on all cylinders and his workrate will smother Marquez. As of right now I think Diaz will have some success but as the fight goes on, Marquez' experience and counter punching will not allow Diaz to do what he wants on offense.

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

Whoever had Juan Diaz winning that fight against Nate Campbell is out of their mind. Nate controlled the tempo and made Diaz uncomfortable the entire time. That split-decision was crap. It had UD written all over it.

[XaduBoxer]

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
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[Chicali]

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

[XaduBoxer]

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

[brucelee]

Is it this coming saturday? i was absent for almost a month.

JMM vs Diaz. I'd pick JMM for his counterpunching. TKO before round 10.

[SaltyBacon]

im picking baby bull he a very underated boxer who i think gonna surprise everyone with his performance

[Spicoli]

Nice scrap,like both guys.....but I have to go with Marquez in the later rounds.Diaz has plenty of guts,fast hands and a very sturdy chin But I'm going with the vet.This is not the mostly lay back and counter punch Marquez of past,over last few has shown added pressure and willingness to engage....while retaining nice accuracy and combination punching to head and body.Bad mix for Diaz I believe.I think Marquez still possesses too many gears.

The big question...who cuts first.Both seem susceptible,especially Marquez.Diaz should try to turn the tables,out move and out speed Marquez...but do not come straight in and go shot for shot hoping to wear him down.Nice fight all around.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Campbell showed one way to defeat Juan Diaz and that's to beat him on his own game... come forward, put a lot of pressure, throw hundreds of body punches and lots of inside fighting...

Will JMM do this?? I don't think so and I'm not sure if JMM's accurate counter punching style will overwhelm the Baby Bull...

Juan Diaz by decision... or stop JMM through accumulation of body and head shots...
.

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.

[fan johnny]

Intesting observation Saddo, styles make fights and maybe JMM is made for Diaz' constant pressure game plan.

Who has the knockout edge?

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.

Although you can classify Diaz, Pacquiao and Marquez as being pressure fighters have all have different styles. Diaz is more of an inside brawler like mini George Forman. Marquez is more of a counter puncher and takes advantage of a fighters mistakes. Pacquiao's punches come from the outside and his skills have increased over his last two fights that actually warrent a changing of his previously defined brawler/puncher style that made is offense wreak less.

The knock on Pacquiao was that he was terribly impatient going after a fighter and often took as many shots as he gave. This impatients has changed into a confidence where is desire to reach his oponent is now packed with precision tied together with defensive movements. He doesn't have that imbalance look in his style anymore and he actully looks graceful Marquez's counter style hasn't changed.

Diaz with his inside brawler style will most likely back up Marquez because his counters work better against outside boxing styles, except for Chris John. So I my guess is that Maquez will have to land a lot of shots countering while backing up to get Diaz. Although I have only seen Diaz twice he might have a different approach with Marquez's counter puch style.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

JMM definitely has the edge in KO punch/power but JuanDiaz has good tight defense on his head... JMM could KO him through a body shot...

Juan Diaz on the other hand has not much KO power but made some tough opponents (Freitas, Julio Diaz) quit on their stool through accumulation of punches...
.

Well Pacman throws a whole bunch of punches in numbers and JMM did pretty good against him.Even after 3 knockdowns.

Although you can classify Diaz, Pacquiao and Marquez as being pressure fighters have all have different styles. Diaz is more of an inside brawler like mini George Forman. Marquez is more of a counter puncher and takes advantage of a fighters mistakes. Pacquiao's punches come from the outside and his skills have increased over his last two fights that actually warrent a changing of his previously defined brawler/puncher style that made is offense wreak less.

The knock on Pacquiao was that he was terribly impatient going after a fighter and often took as many shots as he gave. This impatients has changed into a confidence where is desire to reach his oponent is now packed with precision tied together with defensive movements. He doesn't have that imbalance look in his style anymore and he actully looks graceful Marquez's counter style hasn't changed.

Diaz with his inside brawler style will most likely back up Marquez because his counters work better against outside boxing styles, except for Chris John. So I my guess is that Maquez will have to land a lot of shots countering while backing up to get Diaz. Although I have only seen Diaz twice he might have a different approach with Marquez's counter puch style.

Dud Pacmans last 2 fights were against punchingbags get over it.

[fan johnny]

I'm very torn about his one. Sometimes I think Marquez will box circles around Diaz but sometimes I think Diaz will be firing on all cylinders and his workrate will smother Marquez. As of right now I think Diaz will have some success but as the fight goes on, Marquez' experience and counter punching will not allow Diaz to do what he wants on offense.

JMM by wide decision. He'll break babybull's spirit just like Nate did.

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

Whoever had Juan Diaz winning that fight against Nate Campbell is out of their mind. Nate controlled the tempo and made Diaz uncomfortable the entire time. That split-decision was crap. It had UD written all over it.

Sometimes we read things and get the wrong idea stuck in our head... read the thread again and highlight where you see someone claim that! If you are refering to what I wrote, in other words that Juan Diaz has heart!

Juan Manuel Marquez could do sh*t against a wimpy Chris John... His upper cut looked amateurish! He may box circle around Diaz but he'll look just like he did against Chris John. Marquez couldn't cut off the ring against John. It wasn't so much John winning the fight as it was Marquez losing... He just didn't do enough to win. And now you are telling me that Juan Diaz is less of a fighter?

[C-Lo]

I'm very torn about his one. Sometimes I think Marquez will box circles around Diaz but sometimes I think Diaz will be firing on all cylinders and his workrate will smother Marquez. As of right now I think Diaz will have some success but as the fight goes on, Marquez' experience and counter punching will not allow Diaz to do what he wants on offense.

What the heck are you saying.... Diaz, had a cut over his eye and still managed a split decision. I'd say that is the opposite of loosing ones heart!

And Juan is 100% guaranteed to win this fight...hahaha man that's lame...

Whoever had Juan Diaz winning that fight against Nate Campbell is out of their mind. Nate controlled the tempo and made Diaz uncomfortable the entire time. That split-decision was crap. It had UD written all over it.

Sometimes we read things and get the wrong idea stuck in our head... read the thread again and highlight where you see someone claim that! If you are refering to what I wrote, in other words that Juan Diaz has heart!

Juan Manuel Marquez could do sh*t against a wimpy Chris John... His upper cut looked amateurish! He may box circle around Diaz but he'll look just like he did against Chris John. Marquez couldn't cut off the ring against John. It wasn't so much John winning the fight as it was Marquez losing... He just didn't do enough to win. And now you are telling me that Juan Diaz is less of a fighter?

I'm sorry if I offended you in any way by what I said. I saw your comment and thought you meant you thought the fight was a SD.

But for the second part of your post. I don't think Marquez is going to be coming forward against Diaz. It will be the other way around. Diaz will be the one attempting to cut off the ring while Marquez will be stepping back ready to counter. If Marquez comes forward, I think that will be a tactical error on his part.

[fan johnny]

I'm sorry if I offended you in any way by what I said. I saw your comment and thought you meant you thought the fight was a SD.

But for the second part of your post. I don't think Marquez is going to be coming forward against Diaz. It will be the other way around. Diaz will be the one attempting to cut off the ring while Marquez will be stepping back ready to counter. If Marquez comes forward, I think that will be a tactical error on his part.

No worries.... we'll see Saturday what happens! I don't really care all that for Diaz, it just looked like he was hit on the break in that fight rather than the non-head butt everyone was talking about.... Make the guy look like a whinner....

Seems like Marquez is always crying about something.. Maybe we'll get lucky and see a double knockout.....


"I know that you believe that you understand what you think I said, but I'm sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant"

[Gandalf]

Diaz has it in him to out hustle Marquez, but I think Marquez will land the crisper, more effective blows. It's an interesting clash of styles. I'm going with a Marquez decision.

[Dean Duke]

Such a hard one to call, I enjoy watching both guys, the baby bulls all out combination punching and JMMs crisp countering style should gel well, Marques for me has the edge as BBs going to be coming all night if he fights to past form and that I fear will play into Marques's hands giving him plenty of opportunities to land his counter shots, on the other hand BB could just over whelm him but I just can't see that as JMM's seen off plenty of Manny's attacks in the past, going to be a good one who ever wins.