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Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.
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Sure... If you knocked down or stopped boxing legends like Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar Dela Hoya, you're the worst P4P #1 ever and you're not good for boxing... ;)
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Name a fighter who has been named P4P #1 who is worse than Manny? If u cant then it is true that Manny is the worst #1 ever and what i say is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Bhop, Pbf, RJJ and Whitaker are some names that come to mind and they are all far better than Manny...
Manny Pac is a very good fighter, nobody can deny this. He has his limitations though and I agree that Marquez is the significantly better boxer over 24 rounds.
The only direction he can go is down now, just gotta give it a little time. Pac will fall. ;D :lickish:
Name the fighter that you would replace PAC at P4P throne right now? Let's see if he's better than PAC...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleName a fighter who has been named P4P #1 who is worse than Manny? If u cant then it is true that Manny is the worst #1 ever and what i say is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Bhop, Pbf, RJJ and Whitaker are some names that come to mind and they are all far better than Manny...
Majority of Saddo members still recognized PAC as the no. 1 P4P best boxer right now...:p
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Are u brain dead? I just wrote that Pac is the worst P4P #1 fighter, so yes i see him as #1. My point is that he is the worst #1 ever and that is a bad sign for boxing. Read the thread moron. Name me a former P4P #1 that is worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerName the fighter that you would replace PAC at P4P throne right now? Let's see if he's better than PAC...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleName a fighter who has been named P4P #1 who is worse than Manny? If u cant then it is true that Manny is the worst #1 ever and what i say is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Bhop, Pbf, RJJ and Whitaker are some names that come to mind and they are all far better than Manny...
Majority of Saddo members still recognized PAC as the no. 1 P4P best boxer right now...:p
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Even PAC admitted that he's not a great boxer... He's only a good boxer that happens to beat great boxers... And in most of his post-fight interviews, he humbly said that he's just lucky... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleAre u brain dead? I just wrote that Pac is the worst P4P #1 fighter, so yes i see him as #1. My point is that he is the worst #1 ever and that is a bad sign for boxing. Read the thread moron. Name me a former P4P #1 that is worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerName the fighter that you would replace PAC at P4P throne right now? Let's see if he's better than PAC...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Majority of Saddo members still recognized PAC as the no. 1 P4P best boxer right now...:p
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It's not PAC's fault he's been installed at the no. 1 P4P boxer throne... He didn't buy that position... But to say that it's sad day for boxing having PAc at that position is totally ridiculous... PAC had done a lot for boxing... He bring excitement to the sport... He's one of the most exciting boxers around...
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Unfortunately he also brings the worst fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerEven PAC admitted that he's not a great boxer... He's only a good boxer that happens to beat great boxers... And in most of his post-fight interviews, he humbly said that he's just lucky... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleAre u brain dead? I just wrote that Pac is the worst P4P #1 fighter, so yes i see him as #1. My point is that he is the worst #1 ever and that is a bad sign for boxing. Read the thread moron. Name me a former P4P #1 that is worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
It's not PAC's fault he's been installed at the no. 1 P4P boxer throne... He didn't buy that position... But to say that it's sad day for boxing having PAc at that position is totally ridiculous... PAC had done a lot for boxing... He bring excitement to the sport... He's one of the most exciting boxers around...
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It is a sad day cos it shows the standard of boxing is slipping. I never said its Manny's fault but truth is he shouldnt be #1 in any era.
Tito Trinidad. Sensational puncher but also one dimensional and chinny.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleAre u brain dead? I just wrote that Pac is the worst P4P #1 fighter, so yes i see him as #1. My point is that he is the worst #1 ever and that is a bad sign for boxing. Read the thread moron. Name me a former P4P #1 that is worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerName the fighter that you would replace PAC at P4P throne right now? Let's see if he's better than PAC...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Majority of Saddo members still recognized PAC as the no. 1 P4P best boxer right now...:p
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Then who's #1??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleUnfortunately he also brings the worst fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerEven PAC admitted that he's not a great boxer... He's only a good boxer that happens to beat great boxers... And in most of his post-fight interviews, he humbly said that he's just lucky... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
It's not PAC's fault he's been installed at the no. 1 P4P boxer throne... He didn't buy that position... But to say that it's sad day for boxing having PAc at that position is totally ridiculous... PAC had done a lot for boxing... He bring excitement to the sport... He's one of the most exciting boxers around...
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It is a sad day cos it shows the standard of boxing is slipping. I never said its Manny's fault but truth is he shouldnt be #1 in any era.
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Can u read? I said he should be but if this era was as strong as others he wouldnt be. That is why it is sad for boxing. In RJJ's reign he might no have made the top 5!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerThen who's #1??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleUnfortunately he also brings the worst fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
It is a sad day cos it shows the standard of boxing is slipping. I never said its Manny's fault but truth is he shouldnt be #1 in any era.
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By your logic, you're only criticizing the strongest boxer among the bunch of "weak" boxers which is totally delusional... Why don't you switch to UFC/MMA and leave this boxing forum now?? You're a disgrace to be considered as a boxing fan...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleCan u read? I said he should be but if this era was as strong as others he wouldnt be. That is why it is sad for boxing. In RJJ's reign he might no have made the top 5!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerThen who's #1??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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Im just making an observation. I am worried that boxing is going downhill cos someone as limited in ability is the best around at the moment. It is a true statement, and u havent been able to prove it wrong, so why am i a disgrace?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerBy your logic, you're only criticizing the strongest boxer among the bunch of "weak" boxers which is totally delusional... Why don't you switch to UFC/MMA and leave this boxing forum now?? You're a disgrace to be considered as a boxing fan...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleCan u read? I said he should be but if this era was as strong as others he wouldnt be. That is why it is sad for boxing. In RJJ's reign he might no have made the top 5!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Are you kidding me?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerBy your logic, you're only criticizing the strongest boxer among the bunch of "weak" boxers which is totally delusional... Why don't you switch to UFC/MMA and leave this boxing forum now?? You're a disgrace to be considered as a boxing fan...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleCan u read? I said he should be but if this era was as strong as others he wouldnt be. That is why it is sad for boxing. In RJJ's reign he might no have made the top 5!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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You have no room to talk about being a disgrace as a boxing fan.
You make people hate Pac with all your bull$hit posts, and delusional propaganda!! How is that good for boxing, and good for Pac, when you make people want to see him get KTFO?
You're the worst kind of boxing fan.
Hearing rumblings about Tye Fields comeback bid,Strictly speaking on the Heavyweights,on size and imtimidation alone...surely he can garner 1 or 2 p4p points?
Pac is clearly ducking big Tye....Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
So you're one of those "boxing is dying" critics?? Don't worry, 2009 is so far looking good for boxing and we still have to see this May 2nd megafight... Boxing will survive... Just don't try to put it down for it will be a disgraceful act by a boxing fan...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIm just making an observation. I am worried that boxing is going downhill cos someone as limited in ability is the best around at the moment. It is a true statement, and u havent been able to prove it wrong, so why am i a disgrace?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerBy your logic, you're only criticizing the strongest boxer among the bunch of "weak" boxers which is totally delusional... Why don't you switch to UFC/MMA and leave this boxing forum now?? You're a disgrace to be considered as a boxing fan...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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Did i say boxing is dying? No i didnt. I think the standard may be slipping a little that is all. It is a megafight in terms of the amount of fans, but in terms of skill it pales when compared to fights like Hearns v Leonard, Toney v Jones, or Mosely v DLH, or Hopkins v Trinidad. Shit Pbf already owned Hatton and he'd do the same thing with Pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerSo you're one of those "boxing is dying" critics?? Don't worry, 2009 is so far looking good for boxing and we still have to see this May 2nd megafight... Boxing will survive... Just don't try to put it down for it will be a disgraceful act by a boxing fan...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIm just making an observation. I am worried that boxing is going downhill cos someone as limited in ability is the best around at the moment. It is a true statement, and u havent been able to prove it wrong, so why am i a disgrace?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Pac destrerves to be a top 3 p4p fighter. He has earned his place and I even had him at #1 last year. However, I dont agree with him being at number one right now. It seems that a lot of boxing writers and boxing organizations need to forget about how big Manny has become with the boxing publc and start taking things for face value. JMM and B-Hop have a better case for being p4p #1 based on opposition and being proven at multiple weights against each divisions elite.
Reading your posts has got to be on par with having someone lay your bollocks on an anvil and whacking them with a sledge-hammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerThen who's #1??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleUnfortunately he also brings the worst fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
It is a sad day cos it shows the standard of boxing is slipping. I never said its Manny's fault but truth is he shouldnt be #1 in any era.
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It's painful reading your responses regarding Manny it really is.
Good points. The media and especially Pacfans put too much weight in the DLH win. Sure it looked good on paper, but anyone ranked in the top 20 at 147 could have taken oscar that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
That's why I'm hoping PAC can convincingly defeat Hatton... More convincing than what PBF did to Hatton so that hopefully PBF will come out from retirement and fight PAC... And let's see if PBF will really own PAC...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleDid i say boxing is dying? No i didnt. I think the standard may be slipping a little that is all. It is a megafight in terms of the amount of fans, but in terms of skill it pales when compared to fights like Hearns v Leonard, Toney v Jones, or Mosely v DLH, or Hopkins v Trinidad. Shit Pbf already owned Hatton and he'd do the same thing with Pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerSo you're one of those "boxing is dying" critics?? Don't worry, 2009 is so far looking good for boxing and we still have to see this May 2nd megafight... Boxing will survive... Just don't try to put it down for it will be a disgraceful act by a boxing fan...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Your basing a p4p standing as worst because of 2 controversial fights with JMM...now I'm calling you an idiot. Manny has taken on all comers and now is facing the undisputed Jr Welterweight champion of the world who has not lost at that weight. And your calling him limited. Manny has power, speed, determination to win and goes for the gusto every time he steps in the ring. Also your saying he brings the worst fans why because they stand by their countrymen or love the fact that he brings crossover appeal. The sport needs more humble boxers like Manny who know how to do their job when the bell rings. I think he is the right choice for p4p#1 at this moment and time. I think he is just as good as Pernell Whitaker who at times could put people to sleep with his style. Plus he is only 30 and his career is not even done yet. And your boy Roy Jones had opponents that he should have fought but chose not to and you know who I'm talking about Eagle because we been here b4. But Roy chose to fight the Richard Fraziers of the world instead of more meaningful fights. Manny is good for the sport and the ppv numbers are showing it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIm just making an observation. I am worried that boxing is going downhill cos someone as limited in ability is the best around at the moment. It is a true statement, and u havent been able to prove it wrong, so why am i a disgrace?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerBy your logic, you're only criticizing the strongest boxer among the bunch of "weak" boxers which is totally delusional... Why don't you switch to UFC/MMA and leave this boxing forum now?? You're a disgrace to be considered as a boxing fan...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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I dunno why your even commenting in this thread, u agreed with Boxrec that Manny is P4P #5 right? Well u didnt say it was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerThat's why I'm hoping PAC can convincingly defeat Hatton... More convincing than what PBF did to Hatton so that hopefully PBF will come out from retirement and fight PAC... And let's see if PBF will really own PAC...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleDid i say boxing is dying? No i didnt. I think the standard may be slipping a little that is all. It is a megafight in terms of the amount of fans, but in terms of skill it pales when compared to fights like Hearns v Leonard, Toney v Jones, or Mosely v DLH, or Hopkins v Trinidad. Shit Pbf already owned Hatton and he'd do the same thing with Pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
You're criticizing the current #1 P4P as the worst... As if he's causing some decline in boxing... If that's your mentality, what does it means to boxers like Hatton and Darchinyan that were further down the P4P ladder... Does it mean Hatton and Darchinyan were worse than shit??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI dunno why your even commenting in this thread, u agreed with Boxrec that Manny is P4P #5 right? Well u didnt say it was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerThat's why I'm hoping PAC can convincingly defeat Hatton... More convincing than what PBF did to Hatton so that hopefully PBF will come out from retirement and fight PAC... And let's see if PBF will really own PAC...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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Ive got JMM the better all around fighter with many more gears than Manny.And man...I like Pacquiao.Love the intensity,the self belief and undeniable presence.And his willingness to engage some top caliber fighters as of late.Think he made a clear mutual money grab engaging in that carnival farce reality show with Delahypa...as opposed to cleaning up his respected division and even now finishing an open chapter with JMM that is an undeniable and pertinent issue....
but its when the fan boys come in and make broad brush silly statements in an effort to boost up they're boy that it gets blurry.Look Pac has some great scalps on his resume,Morales (lost one though),Marquez (drew in first and 2nd was hotly disputed),Barrera (All praise to pac in first,wrecked Barrera).........but it gets short bus with stuff Like Pac is just as good as Pernell whitaker.....um,no.....:lolhaha:.
I never once said Manny was the worst fighter. U are brain dead. I said he is the worst P4P #1. The fact i actually say he is #1 means i havent said he is the worst fighter now!!!!! Read fuckface read.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou're criticizing the current #1 P4P as the worst... As if he's causing some decline in boxing... If that's your mentality, what does it means to boxers like Hatton and Darchinyan that were further down the P4P ladder... Does it mean Hatton and Darchinyan were worse than shit??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI dunno why your even commenting in this thread, u agreed with Boxrec that Manny is P4P #5 right? Well u didnt say it was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Hatton and Darchinyan deserve their spot now but neither would be near the top 10 P4P in a stronger era. In the late 90's, early 00's when there was RJJ, Hopkins, DLH, Mosely, Trinidad, PBF, Barrera, Morales, Tszyu Lewis etc etc guys like Hatton and Vic wouldnt have got a mention top 10 P4P.
You said PAC is the worst P4P #1 and by that, you're degrading too all current active boxers... You're implying that boxers like Hatton and Darchi are worse than shit... You're pathetic...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI never once said Manny was the worst fighter. U are brain dead. I said he is the worst P4P #1. The fact i actually say he is #1 means i havent said he is the worst fighter now!!!!! Read fuckface read.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou're criticizing the current #1 P4P as the worst... As if he's causing some decline in boxing... If that's your mentality, what does it means to boxers like Hatton and Darchinyan that were further down the P4P ladder... Does it mean Hatton and Darchinyan were worse than shit??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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Hatton and Darchinyan deserve their spot now but neither would be near the top 10 P4P in a stronger era. In the late 90's, early 00's when there was RJJ, Hopkins, DLH, Mosely, Trinidad, PBF, Barrera, Morales, Tszyu Lewis etc etc guys like Hatton and Vic wouldnt have got a mention top 10 P4P.
Dude, they're the best of the current crop in this era... better enjoy their fights and have some fun rather than putting them down by comparing them in bygone eras... It doesn't look good for you as a boxing fan... You should support boxing...
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Are u seriously all there? I dont think you are the full quid. I enjoy fighting now, i am not obsessed with one fighter like u and i am just making an observation. Im 10 times the fan u are. U just babble shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou said PAC is the worst P4P #1 but you're degrading too all current active boxers... You're implying that boxers like Hatton and Darchi are worse than shit... You're pathetic...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleI never once said Manny was the worst fighter. U are brain dead. I said he is the worst P4P #1. The fact i actually say he is #1 means i havent said he is the worst fighter now!!!!! Read fuckface read.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Hatton and Darchinyan deserve their spot now but neither would be near the top 10 P4P in a stronger era. In the late 90's, early 00's when there was RJJ, Hopkins, DLH, Mosely, Trinidad, PBF, Barrera, Morales, Tszyu Lewis etc etc guys like Hatton and Vic wouldnt have got a mention top 10 P4P.
Dude, they're the best of the current crop in this era... better enjoy their fights and have some fun rather than putting them down by comparing them in bygone eras... It doesn't look good for you as a boxing fan... You should support boxing...
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Show me where i once said Darchi or Hatton is shit? I am a big Darch fan. Atleast i can be unbiased and say he wouldnt be rated as high in other eras. Can u do that with Pac, or are u just a biased fanboy?
I know you're a fan of Darchi and Hatton (me too ;D )... but by labeling PAC as the worst P4P #1, you implied Darch and Hat are worse than worst and what is that?? It's shit... worse than worst...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleAre u seriously all there? I dont think you are the full quid. I enjoy fighting now, i am not obsessed with one fighter like u and i am just making an observation. Im 10 times the fan u are. U just babble shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYou said PAC is the worst P4P #1 but you're degrading too all current active boxers... You're implying that boxers like Hatton and Darchi are worse than shit... You're pathetic...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Dude, they're the best of the current crop in this era... better enjoy their fights and have some fun rather than putting them down by comparing them in bygone eras... It doesn't look good for you as a boxing fan... You should support boxing...
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Show me where i once said Darchi or Hatton is shit? I am a big Darch fan. Atleast i can be unbiased and say he wouldnt be rated as high in other eras. Can u do that with Pac, or are u just a biased fanboy?
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Being the worst P4P #1 ever does not make u shit. It means u are not as good as other P4P #1's. That means u are not quite as good as some of the finest fighters ever. That is not shit. Read the thread please.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI know you're a fan of Darchi and Hatton (me too ;D )... but by labeling PAC as the worst P4P #1, you implied Darch and Hat are worse than worst and what is that?? It's shit... worse than worst...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleAre u seriously all there? I dont think you are the full quid. I enjoy fighting now, i am not obsessed with one fighter like u and i am just making an observation. Im 10 times the fan u are. U just babble shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Show me where i once said Darchi or Hatton is shit? I am a big Darch fan. Atleast i can be unbiased and say he wouldnt be rated as high in other eras. Can u do that with Pac, or are u just a biased fanboy?
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Darch and Hatton who may be ranked between 7-10 P4P are not as good as guys ranked 7-10 in other eras. So maybe they should be ranked 15-20 usually. Being the 15th best fighter in the world does not make u shit.Read the thread!!!!
No you're treating boxers in this era as shits... Having a shit limited boxer being crowned as the #1 P4P and you're even sad boxing reached this point... You're pathetic indeed... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleBeing the worst P4P #1 ever does not make u shit. It means u are not as good as other P4P #1's. That means u are not quite as good as some of the finest fighters ever. That is not shit. Read the thread please.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI know you're a fan of Darchi and Hatton (me too ;D )... but by labeling PAC as the worst P4P #1, you implied Darch and Hat are worse than worst and what is that?? It's shit... worse than worst...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
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Darch and Hatton who may be ranked between 7-10 P4P are not as good as guys ranked 7-10 in other eras. So maybe they should be ranked 15-20 usually. Being the 15th best fighter in the world does not make u shit.Read the thread!!!!
Called pathetic by u actually makes me feel good considering how fucked in the head u are.... Face it your a fool and all but the other nuthuggers know it. In fact i started this whole thread to suck u in and told heaps of ppl about it beforehand. Look who got sucked in and now looks a fool even more... hahahahahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerNo you're treating boxers in this era as shits... Having a shit limited boxer being crowned as the #1 P4P and you're even sad boxing reached this point... You're pathetic indeed... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagleBeing the worst P4P #1 ever does not make u shit. It means u are not as good as other P4P #1's. That means u are not quite as good as some of the finest fighters ever. That is not shit. Read the thread please.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Darch and Hatton who may be ranked between 7-10 P4P are not as good as guys ranked 7-10 in other eras. So maybe they should be ranked 15-20 usually. Being the 15th best fighter in the world does not make u shit.Read the thread!!!!
After this thread, what else? Another thread to destroy Pac's reputation?Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Funny that someone started a thread to question pac's position as p4p#1 then another followed with a thread like this.
Then someone would say, " I like Pac but I just can't stand his fans, so I hate him". Grow up guys. Why can't you just admit that our "guy" Pac beats your guy. Marquez is bitter and so are his fans.
I'm beginning to get tired with your reasoning that you hate Pac because of his fans as if you don't also act like mor*ns when you idolize your fighter.
Be nuts and go nuts with your fighter. That's how it is to be a fan. Don't hate the fighter because of his fans.:cool:
From the fool's mouth comes his demise.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleCalled pathetic by u actually makes me feel good considering how fucked in the head u are.... Face it your a fool and all but the other nuthuggers know it. In fact i started this whole thread to suck u in and told heaps of ppl about it beforehand. Look who got sucked in and now looks a fool even more... hahahahahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerNo you're treating boxers in this era as shits... Having a shit limited boxer being crowned as the #1 P4P and you're even sad boxing reached this point... You're pathetic indeed... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
well said. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09Your basing a p4p standing as worst because of 2 controversial fights with JMM...now I'm calling you an idiot. Manny has taken on all comers and now is facing the undisputed Jr Welterweight champion of the world who has not lost at that weight. And your calling him limited. Manny has power, speed, determination to win and goes for the gusto every time he steps in the ring. Also your saying he brings the worst fans why because they stand by their countrymen or love the fact that he brings crossover appeal. The sport needs more humble boxers like Manny who know how to do their job when the bell rings. I think he is the right choice for p4p#1 at this moment and time. I think he is just as good as Pernell Whitaker who at times could put people to sleep with his style. Plus he is only 30 and his career is not even done yet. And your boy Roy Jones had opponents that he should have fought but chose not to and you know who I'm talking about Eagle because we been here b4. But Roy chose to fight the Richard Fraziers of the world instead of more meaningful fights. Manny is good for the sport and the ppv numbers are showing it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIm just making an observation. I am worried that boxing is going downhill cos someone as limited in ability is the best around at the moment. It is a true statement, and u havent been able to prove it wrong, so why am i a disgrace?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
You know eagle I never really looked at this in this light...
You bring up a very interesting point P4P #1 who could Pac beat.
Tyson, JCC, Pernell, RJJ, ODLH, SSM, B-Hop & PBF have all been #1 P4P.
Who could Pac beat in their prime P4P?
I really can't see him beating any of these guys.
Anyone care to elaborate?
Thats where u are wrong real fans support their fighter, but they dont overrate him just cos he is their favourite.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeAfter this thread, what else? Another thread to destroy Pac's reputation?Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Funny that someone started a thread to question pac's position as p4p#1 then another followed with a thread like this.
Then someone would say, " I like Pac but I just can't stand his fans, so I hate him". Grow up guys. Why can't you just admit that our "guy" Pac beats your guy. Marquez is bitter and so are his fans.
I'm beginning to get tired with your reasoning that you hate Pac because of his fans as if you don't also act like mor*ns when you idolize your fighter.
Be nuts and go nuts with your fighter. That's how it is to be a fan. Don't hate the fighter because of his fans.:cool:
Please find one thread, hey even one post where i idolize a fighter to the point of exaggerating his ability and status. Find one time when i started a thread about my favourite fighter and belitlled an opponent he beat. Find a thread or post where i and fellow fans of a certain fighter ganged up and ridiculed someone who criticised my guy..... U wont find anything on here with me doing that cos i am a humble fan.
For the record my favourite fighters of all time are Kostya Tszyu, Roy Jones, Diego Corrales, and more recently Vic Darchinyan, Michael Katsidis, and Kelly Pavlik.
Is this the only way you know to destroy PAC's reputation?? At the expense of other boxers, by degrading other boxers and treating them all like shits?? That they won't stand a chance against top boxers in past eras... What a shame??Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleCalled pathetic by u actually makes me feel good considering how fucked in the head u are.... Face it your a fool and all but the other nuthuggers know it. In fact i started this whole thread to suck u in and told heaps of ppl about it beforehand. Look who got sucked in and now looks a fool even more... hahahahahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerNo you're treating boxers in this era as shits... Having a shit limited boxer being crowned as the #1 P4P and you're even sad boxing reached this point... You're pathetic indeed... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by eagle
Jones and whitaker both own Pac P4P. nuff said.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09Your basing a p4p standing as worst because of 2 controversial fights with JMM...now I'm calling you an idiot. Manny has taken on all comers and now is facing the undisputed Jr Welterweight champion of the world who has not lost at that weight. And your calling him limited. Manny has power, speed, determination to win and goes for the gusto every time he steps in the ring. Also your saying he brings the worst fans why because they stand by their countrymen or love the fact that he brings crossover appeal. The sport needs more humble boxers like Manny who know how to do their job when the bell rings. I think he is the right choice for p4p#1 at this moment and time. I think he is just as good as Pernell Whitaker who at times could put people to sleep with his style. Plus he is only 30 and his career is not even done yet. And your boy Roy Jones had opponents that he should have fought but chose not to and you know who I'm talking about Eagle because we been here b4. But Roy chose to fight the Richard Fraziers of the world instead of more meaningful fights. Manny is good for the sport and the ppv numbers are showing it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleIm just making an observation. I am worried that boxing is going downhill cos someone as limited in ability is the best around at the moment. It is a true statement, and u havent been able to prove it wrong, so why am i a disgrace?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer